The Origin of Sin: Where It Began; In Heaven or on Earth?

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We're going to tackle, deal with the subject, the origin of sin.

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It began in heaven.

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Are you sure about that Prophet Johnson?

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I'm absolutely positively unequivocally sure that sin originated in heaven, not on earth.

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The origin of sin.

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It began in heaven.

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Contrary to popular belief, even what some of us have been taught through theological

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institutions, sin did not originate on earth.

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The majority of believers, Christians, believe that sin originated in the Garden of Eden.

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That sin began the first time God dealt with sin.

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The first time God experienced his creation rebelling against him, sinning against him,

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violating the laws that he established for them, for their realm, for their world was

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in the Garden of Eden.

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But that's not what the Bible teaches.

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Scripture actually informs us again that sin originated in God's world.

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Sin originated in God's realm.

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So actually when we see sin on earth in the Garden of Eden played out in Eden with Adam

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and Eve, that was not God's first rodeo with sin.

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That was not the first time God had to deal with his creation going against his will,

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his purposes, and his plans for them.

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I want you to write this down.

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Sin came to earth.

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Sin did not originate on earth.

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Did you get that?

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Sin came to earth, but it did not originate on earth.

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Let's look at Isaiah chapter 14 beginning at verse 12 and I'm going to read from the

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New King James Version.

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How you are fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning, how you are cut down to

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the ground, you who weaken the nations, for you have said in your heart, listen to verse

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13, I will ascend into heaven.

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I will exalt my throne above the stars of God.

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I will also sit on the mount of the congregation on the farthest sides of the north.

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I will ascend above the heights of the clouds.

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I will be like the most high.

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Sounds like a coup to me.

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Coup is a military term, C-O-U-P, it's a military term and real quick, the definition for coup,

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a sudden decisive exercise of force in politics and especially the violent overthrow or alteration

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of an existing government by a small group.

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And so we see here in Isaiah chapter 14 verses 12 through 14, Satan expresses the prideful

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desires of his heart to overthrow the government of God.

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Satan desired to upset God's realm by overturning the government established, the order established

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by God for eternity.

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And so Satan gathered a small group as the definition of coup states, he gathered a small

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group of cohorts, a third of the angels and they endeavored to overthrow the government

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of God.

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They endeavored to upset eternity.

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So Isaiah 14 tells us clearly and then we're going to also look at Revelation chapter 12

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in just a moment.

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But Isaiah chapter 14 clearly shows that sin originated where?

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In heaven, originated in God's world.

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But you might ask why is this information important or is it important?

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Is knowing this significant to the believer, to the elect of God?

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Absolutely, absolutely.

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And the reason why we should not only know this information, but we should possess the

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ability to articulate this information, this revelation, this truth intelligently in order

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to defend the faith.

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In order to defend the faith, many Christians fail, fall short in defending their faith

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because they don't know God's story.

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They don't know God's accounts.

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They don't know what transpired in God's realm.

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They don't know the interactions.

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They don't know the circumstances, the situations that God dealt with in eternity before he

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incarnated himself as Jesus Christ and came to the earth.

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Again, God did not encounter for the first time sin and or the rebellion of his creation

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with Adam and Eve in the garden.

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He experienced it in his world.

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That's important for us to know.

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And he experienced it with the citizens of eternity.

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Contrary also to popular belief, humanity were not God's first citizens.

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The angels predates humanity and eternity, heaven, God's world, God's realm had residents

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and our citizens were occupied by beings, creatures other than the Godhead, other than

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he himself, the father, the son and the Holy Ghost.

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And so we see a coup with Satan and a third of the angels.

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However, if you know the end of the story, which if you don't, we are going to bring

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you into that knowledge in Revelation chapter 12 as it pertains to the outcome.

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We're about to read and see how well Satan's coup went.

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It did not go as planned.

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So with that having been said, let's go there, Revelation chapter 12 and we're going to begin

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reading at verse seven.

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Listen to verse seven and war broke out in heaven.

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Wait a minute.

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Where?

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War broke out in heaven.

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So this also is significant and important for us to know that war did not originate

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on earth.

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War originated, war began also in God's world, in God's realm.

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Actually war was the consequence or the result of sin.

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War was the consequence, the result of sin, more specifically the result.

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War was the result of Satan's rebellion, Satan's campaign to overthrow God and upset

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eternity's government.

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War was the result of Satan's coup attempt.

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Sin brought about the consequence of war.

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And so verse seven goes on to say when Revelation 12 verse seven and war broke out in heaven,

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Michael and his angels fought with the dragon and the dragon and his angels fought, but

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they did not prevail nor was a place found for them in heaven any longer.

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So Michael was the general, as it were, leading eternity's army against Satan and his army

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attempting to overthrow God.

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But the Bible says that there was no longer found a place in heaven for the dragon, for

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Satan nor his cohorts.

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So this is important for us to note that anytime you endeavor to fight God, anytime you endeavor

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to combat with God, you're going to lose.

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There is just no way around that truth.

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God will never render himself helpless.

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He will never render himself hopeless.

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He will never render himself at the mercy, catch this, of his creation.

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That doesn't make sense for the creator to be inferior to his creation.

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And so there was no way that Satan was going to be successful in his coup attempt.

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However, he was so filled with pride that he attempted it anyway, and really knowing

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the results would be fatal to him.

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And so let's continue reading verse 9.

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So the great dragon was cast out.

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That serpent of old called the devil and Satan who deceives the whole world.

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He was cast to the earth and his angels were cast out with him.

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Now don't miss that.

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Don't miss verse 9.

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Let's read it again.

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So the great dragon was cast out.

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That serpent of old called the devil and Satan who deceives the whole world.

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He was cast where?

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Where was Satan cast?

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Where was Satan evicted?

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He was cast, he was evicted to the earth as well as his angels were cast out with him.

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Going back to my statement earlier, sin came to earth.

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Sin did not originate in earth.

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The author, the father of lies, that's the statement I was endeavoring to make.

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The originator, the progenitor of sin, Satan, once his coup attempt ended fatally, ended

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opposite of what he had dreamed up, ended opposite of what he had desired because according

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again to Isaiah 14, he said in his heart, I am going to ascend to the heavens and I'm

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going to exalt my throne above God and I'm going to overthrow him.

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I'm going to destroy and dismantle the government, the order, the structure that he has established

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for eternity and replace it with mine.

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I'm going to be the ruler and I'm of course giving you theorization.

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I'm dramatizing it for you as it were but we know how it ended according to both texts

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that we've read but the point that I'm highlighting for you is where Satan fell, where he ended

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up which was in the earth.

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Sin came to earth.

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That's when sin came to earth.

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Sin came to earth when Satan was evicted from God's world.

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Now Adam and Eve, that's why when we read the account in regards to Eve having conversation

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and dialogue with the serpent, he was already in the earth.

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He was already hanging out there in the tree.

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He met them in Eden.

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Are you following me?

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So verse 10, then I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, now salvation and strength and

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the kingdom of our God and the power of his Christ have come for the accuser of our brethren

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who accused them before our God day and night has been cast down.

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Now wait a minute, let's not just read past this speedily because here's another misnomer.

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Here's another errant doctrine and doctrinal teaching and that is that verse 10 applies

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to earth that these are earth's citizens or earthly citizens making this statement in

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that the accuser of the brethren has been cast down.

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We have taught this wrong.

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We have preached this incorrectly because again, verse 10 clearly says, then I heard

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a loud voice saying in heaven, not in earth or on earth in heaven, now salvation and strength

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and the kingdom of our God and the power of our Christ has come.

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So the citizens of God's world were rejoicing, were praising and celebrating God for the

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victory that he wrought in regards to Satan's coup attempt because again, the latter portion

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of the verse goes on to say, for the accuser of our brethren who accused them before our

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God day and night has been cast down.

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Verse 11, and they overcame him by the blood of the lamb and by the word of his testimony

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and they did not love their lives to the death.

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These are not earthly citizens making this declaration.

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These are eternities citizens.

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So when sin came to earth, God had already experienced again the disobedience of his

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creation in his realm, in his world before he experienced it in earth with Adam and Eve.

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That's why he was able to provide a solution in regards to their salvation, hence our salvation

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because he had already tried out as it were his plan of salvation and redemption in his

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realm, in his world.

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That's how he knew that the formula for redemption, for reconciliation would work in the earth

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as it pertains to humanity because it had been proven in the realm of eternity regarding

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eternities citizens.

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Is that not powerful?

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Is that not powerful?

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So this is important to know so that we cannot just give an answer to those that question

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our faith, but that we can give scriptural solutions or scriptural answers, scriptural

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responses, not responding based upon our denominational upbringing, based upon errant and erroneous,

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theological doctrine, not responding based upon our assumptions and no longer responding

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with I don't know, I'm just saved and I'm glad about it.

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Well, we want you to be glad about your salvation.

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However, we need to be able to intelligently articulate our salvation, why salvation is

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required, why salvation is needed, why should we be born from above?

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How does sin come about?

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How did sin originate?

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So this is the year that we hear on a biblical perspective podcast.

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We're going there.

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That's right, dear hearts, we're going, listen, I've been playing it safe as it were for the

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past two years, but I'm getting ready to kick it up a notch.

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We're getting ready to turn up the heat and tackle these subjects and address God's issues.

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And we're going to address it from his perspective.

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We're going to let you know why God has problem, why God has issue, why God has concern with

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what's happening in our world, in our society, in our nation.

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And so I thought that it would be befitting to kick off 2023 right here on the biblical

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perspective podcast with us tackling the origin of sin.

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It did not originate in God's rather it did.

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It did originate in God's world.

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Sin did not originate in or on earth.

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Is that not a powerful statement?

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And now you, whom have been enlightened and empowered in your thinking, you're able to

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intelligently and scripturally address the subject of the origin of sin and let those

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individuals, friends, family, coworkers around you know that hey, what we read in the Bible

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regarding Adam and Eve, disobeying God is not where disobedience began.

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Disobedience began in God's realm, in God's world with Satan, him desiring to introduce

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a new life and language into God's realm or world of truth.

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The father of lies through his coup attempt was endeavoring to establish new life.

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Hence again, the meaning of coup that I gave you at the beginning of today's podcast.

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It is to overthrow government.

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And so Satan wanted to establish a new world order.

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So what Satan is endeavoring to do in our world, in our realm as it pertains to the

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establishment of a new world order is not a new idea.

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It's an idea that he had that originated with him in heaven because that's what he desired

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to do in God's world when he said, I'm going to exalt my throne above God.

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Well, we saw and we know how that panned out.

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