Find the Path of Life With Lisa Robertson

Find the Path of Life With Lisa Robertson

Author Lisa Robertson has lived life to the full and shares some exceptional, and sometimes heartbreaking, stories in her new book, The Path of Life: Walking in the Loving Presence of God, and in this "Charisma Connection" podcast with host Chris Johnson.

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Episode Notes

Charisma Connection

with Chris Johnson

Guest: Lisa Robertson

Author Lisa Robertson has lived life to the full and shares some exceptional, and sometimes heartbreaking, stories in her new book, The Path of Life: Walking in the Loving Presence of God, and in this "Charisma Connection" podcast with host Chris Johnson.

Introduction

Dr. Steve Greene: I'm Steve Greene on the Charisma Podcast Network. I'd like to tell you about a series that's available to you now through Charisma. Many of you have seen bits and pieces of maybe one of these books, The Deborah AnointingThe Esther AnointingThe Anna Anointing, and The Ruth Anointing, plus a free bonus all in the Solid Rock Series. You're going to get all four anointing books by Michelle McClain-Walters, plus a Charisma subscription and to Life in the Spirit devotions for only $36. I want to say that part of it again. You're going to get all four of those anointing books by Michelle McClain Walters. Plus, you'll receive a Charisma subscription, a subscription to Charisma magazine, and then you'll get two Life in a Spirit devotionals for only $36. Now, you can find this at charismamag.com/anoint. Or, you can just look right here, down below this podcast in the show notes and you'll see the link to charismamag.com/anoint. I know you'll love these books, and I know you'll love the free bonuses and a subscription to Charisma magazine. Now let's get to the show.

Chris Johnson: This is Charisma Connection. I'm Chris Johnson and today I am speaking with Lisa Robertson. Lisa has just written the book, The Path of Life: Walk in the Loving Presence of God from Emanate Books at Thomas Nelson. Lisa serves on the Virginia state board of E3, that's Elevate Early Education. She was a founding board member of Alpha North America as is the founder of Changing Seasons, an outreach ministry encouraging and inspiring women. Lisa is married to Tim Robertson. You may know him from being at the Family Channel. He now is the CEO and founder Bayshore Enterprises. Lisa and Tim live in Virginia, they have five children and 10 grandchildren. So, Lisa, I think you are kind of busy.

 

What They’re Saying About The Path of Life

·         “This book should be your next read! I give the Path of Life my highest recommendation.” – Lysa TerKeurst, New York Times Best-Selling Author

 

Lisa Robertson: My life is full, you’re right about that.

Chris Johnson: I'm glad you could carve out a little time for us here today on Charisma Connection. In this book, you talk about a very simple but striking verse in the Psalms that mentions the path of life. How did that verse first come to you?

·         The Path of Life: Walking in the Loving Presence of God

·         Read Chapter 1

Lisa Robertson: The first time I noticed the verse was when Tim and I were married and Fred, a friend of his parents, gave us a wedding present. The card in the present said congratulations, Lisa and Tim, Psalm 16:11. I didn't really know what Psalm 16:11 said, so I looked it up. I read that “God will make known the path of life; in His presence is fullness of joy, and at his right hand are pleasures forever.” I was a new bride. I was living in Colorado, but as a couple, we were moving to Virginia. I had this real sense of God unfolding a brand-new path for me and that it was a path for my life. I loved the promises of joy, and that he would show it to me and that would I would be at his right hand that I would have pleasures forever at his right hand.

 

·         Psalm 16:11: You will make known to me the path of life; in Your presence is fullness of joy; at Your right hand there are pleasures for evermore” (MEV).

 

Chris Johnson: It's really a beautiful verse for every Christian. In your path of life, how did you first encounter the living God?

Lisa Robertson: This is a great story. When I was in my first year in college, and I had experienced … I ran into the church randomly, our church chapel at our college in Sweetbrier College in Virginia, because something had happened that day and I wanted to say thank you. And when I ran in, the chapel was dark. There were other people in the chapel, a few other women in the chapel who were praying. They were so surprised to see me and I was scared and surprised to see them. But I started to go back and pray with them every night at 10 o'clock. So, I left college and went home for the summer and I had this emptiness that I wasn't experiencing God at all. I didn't know Jesus at the time. So, I was in church and I prayed and I said, Lord, I want to believe in you. I want to know you. But if you don't do something for me right now, I just I don't know how. So, that was my prayer. About two days later, our newspaper arrived at the end of the driveway and there was a flyer in it that said Jesus rally tonight at Cinderella City, which was the largest shopping center. There was just something about it that I felt I wanted to go. So, I called the only Christian friend I had and asked her if she'd go with me and we went. It was a Jesus rally with a tent group called Christ is the Answer, and they presented the gospel message. I was so intrigued by the power and the truth of what he was saying about having a relationship with Jesus that, without even thinking about it, I went forward and had them pray for me. I prayed to accept Christ.

Chris Johnson: That's wonderful. As we think about the path of life and how it has developed in your life, it's sometimes easy and it's many times not easy. Could you tell us about some difficult circumstances you've encountered and how you walk through them in the presence of God?

Lisa Robertson: The biggest difficulty that we've had as a family, meaning with my parents, was I had a two-year-old sister who was killed by another child. It was so alarming and so upsetting that our whole family was thrown into a tailspin of grief and questions. We didn't know the Lord at all. I think part of the problem was my mother was so burdened with her grief because she felt that she hadn't taken care of the child. I felt like I had the same responsibility. We were all carrying these secret burdens of responsibility and grief and questions. We continued to live our lives and I kind of just buried all of that. My mother had some friends who started to pray for her and then eventually came to her and said, we've been praying for you and we want to invite you to Bible study. So, she went to a Bible study in a little Episcopal church in Golden, Colorado, and she accepted Christ and discovered the power and the presence of the Holy Spirit. She was given, I would say, a new lease on life, because all of a sudden, she knew that God was with her and that God would walk her through this terrible tragedy; the valley of the shadow of death. He was still with her and she was filled with hope and purpose.

Chris Johnson: That's wonderful. When readers read that story, they'll be quite stunned by how it happened. It’s really wonderful to see that those people in the Bible study reached out to your mom and it had a good outcome in that sense.

Lisa Robertson: When I think of the story, I think about how miraculous it is, that in the death of my sister, we found new life and we found life in Christ. And that still amazes me that, that He can take something so horrible and bring something good out of it, and He can bring life out of it.

Chris Johnson: Amen. How does joy play a role and good times as well as bad?

Lisa Robertson: To me, joy is being in the presence of Jesus and knowing that He is with me on the path, that He walks with me on the path. I think of that fullness of joy as almost a confidence that I'm not alone. Another aspect of it is that when I'm on the path, I have that confidence. On a path, somebody's always gone before you. There's always a destination to a path, and you're never alone on that path when you're walking with the Lord. So, that gives me joy. That joy is my strength. Joy is not necessarily happiness. I think happiness is much more dependent on circumstances and events in your life, where joy is, to me, is more dependent on the knowledge that I am with the Lord and He is with me and we are in partnership to do whatever it is He's calling us to do.

Chris Johnson: Speaking of partnership, you and your husband have a partnership and you have five children together. I noticed that you have two chapters on parenting. One wouldn't do it, apparently. So, I can understand that. How does parenting help unfold God's plan for path of life for the moms and dads in our audience.

Lisa Robertson: In the in the chapters on parenting, I have one called getting started and one called letting go. The first thing I learned when my children were very little … I had one child that was particularly demanding and uncooperative and unruly. I felt like the biggest failure. I'll never forget just lying in bed one night, weeping because I felt that I was had ruined my child. She was my second daughter. I had a brand-new baby, who was our son, who and I felt like I'd already ruined him when he was probably three months old. I thought, it's so unfair. I never gave him a chance and I've already ruined him. But I had this moment of just really feeling like, feeling lost and hopeless as a parent. In the quietness of that moment, I really felt like the Holy Spirit came to me and assured me that He was with me and that He was going to partner with me. He was going to teach me how to be a parent. I tended to want to be a military, drill sergeant and demand things of my children. But God gave me this wisdom that I was to be their coach and put my arm around them and coach them where they needed to go and not demand that they go there on their own. I use an example in the book about one of our daughters who … were punishing her for something she had done. She was 16. Neither one of us could remember what it was about. But the punishment we came up with was that she could either be grounded for the rest of her life, or that she had to try out for the field hockey team. she was in 10th grade and the field hockey team tryouts were known as hell week because they worked in the morning and they worked in the afternoon and day after day after day. It was completely exhausting. So, she decided that she would try out for the field hockey team, and she did. She didn't make the team, but she went to all the practices and did everything we asked her to do. Eventually she became … her first year she was like the team, encourager, and she eventually became a team captain. I loved that because I felt like we prayed about the discipline. God gave us a unique idea and then it added to their life instead of taking something away from them.

Chris Johnson: Well, each child is different, right? With five, you have experienced that.

Lisa Robertson: I have another child, Laura, our oldest was so quiet and so sweet and perfect, and I don't think I ever disciplined her ever and she's still quiet, sweet and perfect.

Chris Johnson: Some people thrive on change and others are more resistant to it and get comfortable in the routines of life. Where are you on that spectrum? And how has Jesus walked with you through change in your life?

 

·         Ecclesiastes 3:1: To everything there is a season, a time for every purpose under heaven” (MEV).

 

Lisa Robertson: I don't like change. But I also thrive on change because change is an important part of our life. I love the verse in Ecclesiastes that says to everything there's a season and a time and purpose to everything under heaven. If you go through and list all the different changes that happen in our world … and I think change is, is wonderful because it's a natural part of life. We don't all stay as brand-new babies; we change and become toddlers and preschoolers and teenagers, adults, grandparents, and we change all the way through life. And so everything changes. The path of change is important because I think we need to be flexible and available to change and not too set in our own ways. We had an interesting experience in our church. We're part of the Episcopal Church and several years ago there was this, what I would call a church quake where the Episcopal Church was just thrown into complete disarray as a denomination and lots of different people were separating from the denomination. To our surprise, we agreed with a lot of the reasons people were separating. But my husband and I, particularly my husband, felt very called to stay with our church and to just trust the Lord while we while we navigated the changes in our church. Our whole staff resigned. So, it was sort of like the inmates running the jail because all the parishioners had to step up and lead the church to carry it through that season of change. But the beautiful part of it was that change strengthened our parishioners. We prayed together, we listened to each other, we depended on each other, we needed each other. We shaped a different kind of fellowship because of the terrible change that we were facing. Little by little God walked us through that season. We ended up with a dynamic, evangelical Episcopal priest with a whole staff of people who know and love the Lord. And, we are probably one of the largest churches in our diocese, if not the largest church in our diocese.

Connect with Lisa Robertson

·         Changingseasons.com

·         On Facebook

Episode Notes

Charisma Connection

with Chris Johnson

Guest: Lisa Robertson

Author Lisa Robertson has lived life to the full and shares some exceptional, and sometimes heartbreaking, stories in her new book, The Path of Life: Walking in the Loving Presence of God, and in this "Charisma Connection" podcast with host Chris Johnson.

Introduction

Dr. Steve Greene: I'm Steve Greene on the Charisma Podcast Network. I'd like to tell you about a series that's available to you now through Charisma. Many of you have seen bits and pieces of maybe one of these books, The Deborah AnointingThe Esther AnointingThe Anna Anointing, and The Ruth Anointing, plus a free bonus all in the Solid Rock Series. You're going to get all four anointing books by Michelle McClain-Walters, plus a Charisma subscription and to Life in the Spirit devotions for only $36. I want to say that part of it again. You're going to get all four of those anointing books by Michelle McClain Walters. Plus, you'll receive a Charisma subscription, a subscription to Charisma magazine, and then you'll get two Life in a Spirit devotionals for only $36. Now, you can find this at charismamag.com/anoint. Or, you can just look right here, down below this podcast in the show notes and you'll see the link to charismamag.com/anoint. I know you'll love these books, and I know you'll love the free bonuses and a subscription to Charisma magazine. Now let's get to the show.

Chris Johnson: This is Charisma Connection. I'm Chris Johnson and today I am speaking with Lisa Robertson. Lisa has just written the book, The Path of Life: Walk in the Loving Presence of God from Emanate Books at Thomas Nelson. Lisa serves on the Virginia state board of E3, that's Elevate Early Education. She was a founding board member of Alpha North America as is the founder of Changing Seasons, an outreach ministry encouraging and inspiring women. Lisa is married to Tim Robertson. You may know him from being at the Family Channel. He now is the CEO and founder Bayshore Enterprises. Lisa and Tim live in Virginia, they have five children and 10 grandchildren. So, Lisa, I think you are kind of busy.

 

What They’re Saying About The Path of Life

·         “This book should be your next read! I give the Path of Life my highest recommendation.” – Lysa TerKeurst, New York Times Best-Selling Author

 

Lisa Robertson: My life is full, you’re right about that.

Chris Johnson: I'm glad you could carve out a little time for us here today on Charisma Connection. In this book, you talk about a very simple but striking verse in the Psalms that mentions the path of life. How did that verse first come to you?

·         The Path of Life: Walking in the Loving Presence of God

·         Read Chapter 1

Lisa Robertson: The first time I noticed the verse was when Tim and I were married and Fred, a friend of his parents, gave us a wedding present. The card in the present said congratulations, Lisa and Tim, Psalm 16:11. I didn't really know what Psalm 16:11 said, so I looked it up. I read that “God will make known the path of life; in His presence is fullness of joy, and at his right hand are pleasures forever.” I was a new bride. I was living in Colorado, but as a couple, we were moving to Virginia. I had this real sense of God unfolding a brand-new path for me and that it was a path for my life. I loved the promises of joy, and that he would show it to me and that would I would be at his right hand that I would have pleasures forever at his right hand.

 

·         Psalm 16:11: You will make known to me the path of life; in Your presence is fullness of joy; at Your right hand there are pleasures for evermore” (MEV).

 

Chris Johnson: It's really a beautiful verse for every Christian. In your path of life, how did you first encounter the living God?

Lisa Robertson: This is a great story. When I was in my first year in college, and I had experienced … I ran into the church randomly, our church chapel at our college in Sweetbrier College in Virginia, because something had happened that day and I wanted to say thank you. And when I ran in, the chapel was dark. There were other people in the chapel, a few other women in the chapel who were praying. They were so surprised to see me and I was scared and surprised to see them. But I started to go back and pray with them every night at 10 o'clock. So, I left college and went home for the summer and I had this emptiness that I wasn't experiencing God at all. I didn't know Jesus at the time. So, I was in church and I prayed and I said, Lord, I want to believe in you. I want to know you. But if you don't do something for me right now, I just I don't know how. So, that was my prayer. About two days later, our newspaper arrived at the end of the driveway and there was a flyer in it that said Jesus rally tonight at Cinderella City, which was the largest shopping center. There was just something about it that I felt I wanted to go. So, I called the only Christian friend I had and asked her if she'd go with me and we went. It was a Jesus rally with a tent group called Christ is the Answer, and they presented the gospel message. I was so intrigued by the power and the truth of what he was saying about having a relationship with Jesus that, without even thinking about it, I went forward and had them pray for me. I prayed to accept Christ.

Chris Johnson: That's wonderful. As we think about the path of life and how it has developed in your life, it's sometimes easy and it's many times not easy. Could you tell us about some difficult circumstances you've encountered and how you walk through them in the presence of God?

Lisa Robertson: The biggest difficulty that we've had as a family, meaning with my parents, was I had a two-year-old sister who was killed by another child. It was so alarming and so upsetting that our whole family was thrown into a tailspin of grief and questions. We didn't know the Lord at all. I think part of the problem was my mother was so burdened with her grief because she felt that she hadn't taken care of the child. I felt like I had the same responsibility. We were all carrying these secret burdens of responsibility and grief and questions. We continued to live our lives and I kind of just buried all of that. My mother had some friends who started to pray for her and then eventually came to her and said, we've been praying for you and we want to invite you to Bible study. So, she went to a Bible study in a little Episcopal church in Golden, Colorado, and she accepted Christ and discovered the power and the presence of the Holy Spirit. She was given, I would say, a new lease on life, because all of a sudden, she knew that God was with her and that God would walk her through this terrible tragedy; the valley of the shadow of death. He was still with her and she was filled with hope and purpose.

Chris Johnson: That's wonderful. When readers read that story, they'll be quite stunned by how it happened. It’s really wonderful to see that those people in the Bible study reached out to your mom and it had a good outcome in that sense.

Lisa Robertson: When I think of the story, I think about how miraculous it is, that in the death of my sister, we found new life and we found life in Christ. And that still amazes me that, that He can take something so horrible and bring something good out of it, and He can bring life out of it.

Chris Johnson: Amen. How does joy play a role and good times as well as bad?

Lisa Robertson: To me, joy is being in the presence of Jesus and knowing that He is with me on the path, that He walks with me on the path. I think of that fullness of joy as almost a confidence that I'm not alone. Another aspect of it is that when I'm on the path, I have that confidence. On a path, somebody's always gone before you. There's always a destination to a path, and you're never alone on that path when you're walking with the Lord. So, that gives me joy. That joy is my strength. Joy is not necessarily happiness. I think happiness is much more dependent on circumstances and events in your life, where joy is, to me, is more dependent on the knowledge that I am with the Lord and He is with me and we are in partnership to do whatever it is He's calling us to do.

Chris Johnson: Speaking of partnership, you and your husband have a partnership and you have five children together. I noticed that you have two chapters on parenting. One wouldn't do it, apparently. So, I can understand that. How does parenting help unfold God's plan for path of life for the moms and dads in our audience.

Lisa Robertson: In the in the chapters on parenting, I have one called getting started and one called letting go. The first thing I learned when my children were very little … I had one child that was particularly demanding and uncooperative and unruly. I felt like the biggest failure. I'll never forget just lying in bed one night, weeping because I felt that I was had ruined my child. She was my second daughter. I had a brand-new baby, who was our son, who and I felt like I'd already ruined him when he was probably three months old. I thought, it's so unfair. I never gave him a chance and I've already ruined him. But I had this moment of just really feeling like, feeling lost and hopeless as a parent. In the quietness of that moment, I really felt like the Holy Spirit came to me and assured me that He was with me and that He was going to partner with me. He was going to teach me how to be a parent. I tended to want to be a military, drill sergeant and demand things of my children. But God gave me this wisdom that I was to be their coach and put my arm around them and coach them where they needed to go and not demand that they go there on their own. I use an example in the book about one of our daughters who … were punishing her for something she had done. She was 16. Neither one of us could remember what it was about. But the punishment we came up with was that she could either be grounded for the rest of her life, or that she had to try out for the field hockey team. she was in 10th grade and the field hockey team tryouts were known as hell week because they worked in the morning and they worked in the afternoon and day after day after day. It was completely exhausting. So, she decided that she would try out for the field hockey team, and she did. She didn't make the team, but she went to all the practices and did everything we asked her to do. Eventually she became … her first year she was like the team, encourager, and she eventually became a team captain. I loved that because I felt like we prayed about the discipline. God gave us a unique idea and then it added to their life instead of taking something away from them.

Chris Johnson: Well, each child is different, right? With five, you have experienced that.

Lisa Robertson: I have another child, Laura, our oldest was so quiet and so sweet and perfect, and I don't think I ever disciplined her ever and she's still quiet, sweet and perfect.

Chris Johnson: Some people thrive on change and others are more resistant to it and get comfortable in the routines of life. Where are you on that spectrum? And how has Jesus walked with you through change in your life?

 

·         Ecclesiastes 3:1: To everything there is a season, a time for every purpose under heaven” (MEV).

 

Lisa Robertson: I don't like change. But I also thrive on change because change is an important part of our life. I love the verse in Ecclesiastes that says to everything there's a season and a time and purpose to everything under heaven. If you go through and list all the different changes that happen in our world … and I think change is, is wonderful because it's a natural part of life. We don't all stay as brand-new babies; we change and become toddlers and preschoolers and teenagers, adults, grandparents, and we change all the way through life. And so everything changes. The path of change is important because I think we need to be flexible and available to change and not too set in our own ways. We had an interesting experience in our church. We're part of the Episcopal Church and several years ago there was this, what I would call a church quake where the Episcopal Church was just thrown into complete disarray as a denomination and lots of different people were separating from the denomination. To our surprise, we agreed with a lot of the reasons people were separating. But my husband and I, particularly my husband, felt very called to stay with our church and to just trust the Lord while we while we navigated the changes in our church. Our whole staff resigned. So, it was sort of like the inmates running the jail because all the parishioners had to step up and lead the church to carry it through that season of change. But the beautiful part of it was that change strengthened our parishioners. We prayed together, we listened to each other, we depended on each other, we needed each other. We shaped a different kind of fellowship because of the terrible change that we were facing. Little by little God walked us through that season. We ended up with a dynamic, evangelical Episcopal priest with a whole staff of people who know and love the Lord. And, we are probably one of the largest churches in our diocese, if not the largest church in our diocese.

Connect with Lisa Robertson

·         Changingseasons.com

·         On Facebook

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