Hope through Cancer With Jenny Hrbacek

Hope through Cancer With Jenny Hrbacek

Jenny Hrbacek, author of Cancer Free: Are You Sure?, is a wife, mother, registered nurse and breast cancer survivor. As she recovered from surgery, she began to learn little-known facts about cancer prevention and detection. In this episode with host Marti Pieper, Jenny shares some of her amazing discoveries.

33 Minutes • 13 days ago

Episode Notes

Charisma News

Special Series: Hope Through Cancer

Guest: Jenny Hrbacek

Jenny Hrbacek, author of Cancer Free: Are You Sure?, is a wife, mother, registered nurse and breast cancer survivor. As she recovered from surgery, she began to learn little-known facts about cancer prevention and detection. In this episode with host Marti Pieper, Jenny shares some of her amazing discoveries.

Introduction

This episode is brought to you by the E book Revelatory Combat by Ryan LeStrange. Revelatory Combat is a concise look into the prophetic ministry and the partnership between prophets and apostles. It provides clarity for the battle facing the church in this hour. Ryan LeStrange and Charisma magazine are proud to offer you a year-long subscription of Charisma magazine, as well as a download of Revelatory Combat for only $20. If you'd like to take part in this offer, be sure to visit combat.charismamag.com or call 1-800-749-6500 and mention the word combat.

 

More from the Hope Through Cancer Series

·         With Brad and Rebekah

·         With Doug Stringer

·         With Jay and Sofia Lyons

·         With Karen Schatzline

 

Marti Pieper: Jenny Hrbacek is a believer, a registered nurse and a breast cancer survivor. Her book, Cancer Free: Are You Sure? offers fresh insights into cancer treatment and prevention. I'm Marti Pieper, and we'll hear from Jenny and her wisdom in our Hope Through Cancer Series on Charisma News.

 

Jenny Hrbacek on Charisma

·         Read the story: Why This Nurse Says We Can Defeat Cancer Now

·         Listen to the Keys Against the Enemy Podcast: Let Your Body Heal with Author Jenny Hrbacek

·         Listen to Charisma Connection Podcast: Cancer-Free! Are You Sure? With Jenny Hrbacek

 

When most people get cancer, they get through it as best they can. But Jenny Hrbacek found a way to use her journey to help herself and others. Jenny, you have some special characteristics. You're a believer, but you're also a medical professional, and a breast cancer survivor yourself.  Can you tell our listeners a little bit about your own cancer journey, maybe about your diagnosis and what happened after that?

Jenny Hrbacek: Absolutely. You know, cancer is something that no one ever wants. We think of it as something other people get, and not something that touches our own lives. I was really blindsided when it touched my life because probably 15 years ago, I had gone to Lake Hamilton Bible Camp and I had a work spoken over me that I would have a healing ministry and there was a work that I would do for the Lord. So, I thought, I must be good for the health because I'm in a healing ministry. But when I got that diagnosis … and actually I'm going to tell everyone, I felt fine. I had no idea I had a 1.9-centimeter tumor in my breast. My lab work, perfect. My cholesterol, my blood sugar, everything that your doctor checks you for at a standard yearly physical was fine. So, when I got that diagnosis, it really did blindside me. As I went through the process, at first, most people just become frozen. You kind of get overwhelmed and you kind of want to deny the problem. It's like how can this be happening?

Then I jumped over to the fight and flight where I started trying to make rash decisions and it became an emergency and I had to get the cancer out as fast as possible. I really wasn't making the best choices. Then when I'm laying on the operating room table, I wanted to do a complete spiritual bypass. I'm like, God take care of this. But I know that He won't move your car for you. We have to get in the car, we have to put our keys in the ignition, we have to turn it. So, I went through the whole gamut of emotions. But the main thing that I really want to share with people is when I asked the doctor how long I've had this cancer, he said, seven to 10 years. I've talked to several people in oncology that told me I've had this for seven to 10 years. I still didn't understand why they couldn't tell me I had it sooner. Because if you're going to have cancer, you want to find out when it's like stage zero or before it even will show up on a scan. Here I was, at a point where I was going to have surgery and chemotherapy and radiation. I just couldn't believe how we could put men on the moon and we have these skinny TVs that are now an inch thick. But we can't tell someone they have cancer for that many years. But that is really what got me on this journey and led to the work, which has turned out to be the book that I would do for the Lord.

Marti Pieper: Jenny's book is Cancer Free: Are you sure? Of course, she's going to be sharing with us about that. Now Jenny, I heard you talking about the detection and really until I looked at your book and read your website, I had no idea about this … the fact that cancers are growing often long before there ever detected with our medical technology today. But there was something else you learned. You started meeting other patients whose cancer maybe had recurred, and for maybe the third or the fourth time. Isn't that right? Can you tell us about that?

Jenny Hrbacek: That's, that's heartbreaking to me because it's awful to get cancer once. When you get it second and a third time, it usually doesn't end well. I feel like cancer is a spiritual terrorist in the life of humanity. And we're not addressing it. We're all waiting until we get it, until we get that formal diagnosis before we do anything. I could talk for hours, but I'll fast-forward. I did a mastectomy because I wanted to get rid of any breast tissue that might have cancer. If you read my book or we get into this, you'll learn that all I did was keep the cancer from coming back in that tissue that they put in the trash can. Cancer is not the tumor; you can't just remove the tumor. So, I did that and I went through chemotherapy. It was a very difficult year. I lost my hair, which is a part of your identity. Then I went to this cancer support group because I thought … they told me I was cancer free. The way they declare that is that they do a PET scan on you and it and it's clear; nothing lights up as cancer. Then when they did your surgery, they tested that edges of the tissue that they've removed and they make sure there's no cancer there. They call it clean surgical margins. So, I had clean surgical margins. I had a clean PET scan. My hair was growing back. It was maybe like an inch long. I felt such relief that I made it through the halls of one of Houston's best hospitals and I came out alive.

So, I went to the Breast Cancer Support Group thinking I would get support. That's why it's called a support group.  When I left there so discouraged and fear came back over me because this was actually an inaugural meeting of this group at one of our local hospitals here. There were so many nice people, and even a couple of men. Everyone went around the circle and introduced themselves. I’m looking at these people thinking, oh wow, they were actually coming to the meeting during their cancer. But what I found out is they that they had been told the same thing I was told, that they had clean surgical margins. They had a clean PET scan and they were all declared cancer free. They had rung the bell in the chemotherapy suite, which is something they have you do on your last day of chemo or your last day of radiation. You get to ring the bell like we're celebrating that we finished the therapy. I'm going to tell you, more than half of the people in the room were on their second or third recurrence of the same cancer. So, if we were really cancer free, how did that breast cancer get in their brain, get in their lungs, get in their liver. At that point, I felt like I had a target on my back. I actually looked over my shoulder and I thought, Lord, what is going on here? Help me discover the truth in this, That's really what got me going on the research.

Marti Pieper: So, it was personal as well as professional in other words?

Jenny Hrbacek: Yes, because I was a neonatal nurse. I really learned all of this through the directing of the Holy Spirit. He connected me with the right people at the right time and He just put the right questions in my mind. Then I thought, you know, I've got to tell people about this, because we really can't have victory over this disease, that we are letting it become something big and scary. We have the completely wrong approach in this country. I feel like that's why so many people are succumbing to the disease. They're spending their last penny. They’re suffering. And it’s because we have the wrong approach. We've got this thing upside down. And it's because our health care system is reactive. It's really a sick care system. We wait for you to get that diagnosis before we jump in and start with all the modalities. I just think it's a shame because we … think about this. We test people for diabetes. We check their blood sugar. We don't wait for them to become an insulin dependent diabetic before we help them. We check for cholesterol and then we start helping them with their diet. There are lots of things that we screen for, but we don't screen for cancer other than doing your breast exam or a mammogram or a PSA count. Those are really late diagnostics. A colonoscopy is great because it really can find colon cancer coming, but it's only looking in the colon. It's one small part of the body.

Marti Pieper: Yes. If we have ways to detect it early, why are we not doing that?

Jenny Hrbacek: I hate to say this, but it is our standard of care. Our standard of care is when you get cancer, we give you a drug. We're spending millions of dollars on drug therapies. Drugs are very toxic. And the thing is, these drugs are not the cure for cancer. If they were the cure, we would have the cure, right? So, surgery and chemotherapy and radiation are not the cure for cancer. In fact, I know an incredible gentleman that had testicular cancer, and he had a lot of radiation and it ended up causing what's called a vascular necrosis and it killed the blood supply in his hips. He was literally having a hard time walking or getting up off the toilet, something that we all take for granted. The therapies that we have are not the cure, and they are very hard on the body. And just the emotional impact of waiting until you have a diagnosis and you qualify for your insurance to pay for chemotherapy or to pay for surgery, or to pay for radiation, or to pay for one of these cancer therapies … it's just the wrong approach. I would much rather have someone do one of the tests in my book and find out gee, I am so early on, I could run down here to the hospital and they won't even be able to find it. Because that's when the body can really heal. Our Creator did not put us here on an Earth that would not sustain us. Yes, it’s a fallen world and there's disease around us. But there are so many things that can kill cancer stem cells. There are so many living enzymes and raw foods that can help our body to heal. There's a lot that we can do to prevent cancer in the first place. Because I'm going to say about 5 percent of cancers, they say, are genetic, meaning that you inherited the propensity from your parents. Ninety-plus percent of it, and this has even come out by Harvard, is a preventable lifestyle-driven disease.

 

Connect with Jenny Hrbacek

·         At beatcancer.org

·         At ihealthtube.com

·         At cancerfreeexperts.com

·         On Facebook

Episode Notes

Charisma News

Special Series: Hope Through Cancer

Guest: Jenny Hrbacek

Jenny Hrbacek, author of Cancer Free: Are You Sure?, is a wife, mother, registered nurse and breast cancer survivor. As she recovered from surgery, she began to learn little-known facts about cancer prevention and detection. In this episode with host Marti Pieper, Jenny shares some of her amazing discoveries.

Introduction

This episode is brought to you by the E book Revelatory Combat by Ryan LeStrange. Revelatory Combat is a concise look into the prophetic ministry and the partnership between prophets and apostles. It provides clarity for the battle facing the church in this hour. Ryan LeStrange and Charisma magazine are proud to offer you a year-long subscription of Charisma magazine, as well as a download of Revelatory Combat for only $20. If you'd like to take part in this offer, be sure to visit combat.charismamag.com or call 1-800-749-6500 and mention the word combat.

 

More from the Hope Through Cancer Series

·         With Brad and Rebekah

·         With Doug Stringer

·         With Jay and Sofia Lyons

·         With Karen Schatzline

 

Marti Pieper: Jenny Hrbacek is a believer, a registered nurse and a breast cancer survivor. Her book, Cancer Free: Are You Sure? offers fresh insights into cancer treatment and prevention. I'm Marti Pieper, and we'll hear from Jenny and her wisdom in our Hope Through Cancer Series on Charisma News.

 

Jenny Hrbacek on Charisma

·         Read the story: Why This Nurse Says We Can Defeat Cancer Now

·         Listen to the Keys Against the Enemy Podcast: Let Your Body Heal with Author Jenny Hrbacek

·         Listen to Charisma Connection Podcast: Cancer-Free! Are You Sure? With Jenny Hrbacek

 

When most people get cancer, they get through it as best they can. But Jenny Hrbacek found a way to use her journey to help herself and others. Jenny, you have some special characteristics. You're a believer, but you're also a medical professional, and a breast cancer survivor yourself.  Can you tell our listeners a little bit about your own cancer journey, maybe about your diagnosis and what happened after that?

Jenny Hrbacek: Absolutely. You know, cancer is something that no one ever wants. We think of it as something other people get, and not something that touches our own lives. I was really blindsided when it touched my life because probably 15 years ago, I had gone to Lake Hamilton Bible Camp and I had a work spoken over me that I would have a healing ministry and there was a work that I would do for the Lord. So, I thought, I must be good for the health because I'm in a healing ministry. But when I got that diagnosis … and actually I'm going to tell everyone, I felt fine. I had no idea I had a 1.9-centimeter tumor in my breast. My lab work, perfect. My cholesterol, my blood sugar, everything that your doctor checks you for at a standard yearly physical was fine. So, when I got that diagnosis, it really did blindside me. As I went through the process, at first, most people just become frozen. You kind of get overwhelmed and you kind of want to deny the problem. It's like how can this be happening?

Then I jumped over to the fight and flight where I started trying to make rash decisions and it became an emergency and I had to get the cancer out as fast as possible. I really wasn't making the best choices. Then when I'm laying on the operating room table, I wanted to do a complete spiritual bypass. I'm like, God take care of this. But I know that He won't move your car for you. We have to get in the car, we have to put our keys in the ignition, we have to turn it. So, I went through the whole gamut of emotions. But the main thing that I really want to share with people is when I asked the doctor how long I've had this cancer, he said, seven to 10 years. I've talked to several people in oncology that told me I've had this for seven to 10 years. I still didn't understand why they couldn't tell me I had it sooner. Because if you're going to have cancer, you want to find out when it's like stage zero or before it even will show up on a scan. Here I was, at a point where I was going to have surgery and chemotherapy and radiation. I just couldn't believe how we could put men on the moon and we have these skinny TVs that are now an inch thick. But we can't tell someone they have cancer for that many years. But that is really what got me on this journey and led to the work, which has turned out to be the book that I would do for the Lord.

Marti Pieper: Jenny's book is Cancer Free: Are you sure? Of course, she's going to be sharing with us about that. Now Jenny, I heard you talking about the detection and really until I looked at your book and read your website, I had no idea about this … the fact that cancers are growing often long before there ever detected with our medical technology today. But there was something else you learned. You started meeting other patients whose cancer maybe had recurred, and for maybe the third or the fourth time. Isn't that right? Can you tell us about that?

Jenny Hrbacek: That's, that's heartbreaking to me because it's awful to get cancer once. When you get it second and a third time, it usually doesn't end well. I feel like cancer is a spiritual terrorist in the life of humanity. And we're not addressing it. We're all waiting until we get it, until we get that formal diagnosis before we do anything. I could talk for hours, but I'll fast-forward. I did a mastectomy because I wanted to get rid of any breast tissue that might have cancer. If you read my book or we get into this, you'll learn that all I did was keep the cancer from coming back in that tissue that they put in the trash can. Cancer is not the tumor; you can't just remove the tumor. So, I did that and I went through chemotherapy. It was a very difficult year. I lost my hair, which is a part of your identity. Then I went to this cancer support group because I thought … they told me I was cancer free. The way they declare that is that they do a PET scan on you and it and it's clear; nothing lights up as cancer. Then when they did your surgery, they tested that edges of the tissue that they've removed and they make sure there's no cancer there. They call it clean surgical margins. So, I had clean surgical margins. I had a clean PET scan. My hair was growing back. It was maybe like an inch long. I felt such relief that I made it through the halls of one of Houston's best hospitals and I came out alive.

So, I went to the Breast Cancer Support Group thinking I would get support. That's why it's called a support group.  When I left there so discouraged and fear came back over me because this was actually an inaugural meeting of this group at one of our local hospitals here. There were so many nice people, and even a couple of men. Everyone went around the circle and introduced themselves. I’m looking at these people thinking, oh wow, they were actually coming to the meeting during their cancer. But what I found out is they that they had been told the same thing I was told, that they had clean surgical margins. They had a clean PET scan and they were all declared cancer free. They had rung the bell in the chemotherapy suite, which is something they have you do on your last day of chemo or your last day of radiation. You get to ring the bell like we're celebrating that we finished the therapy. I'm going to tell you, more than half of the people in the room were on their second or third recurrence of the same cancer. So, if we were really cancer free, how did that breast cancer get in their brain, get in their lungs, get in their liver. At that point, I felt like I had a target on my back. I actually looked over my shoulder and I thought, Lord, what is going on here? Help me discover the truth in this, That's really what got me going on the research.

Marti Pieper: So, it was personal as well as professional in other words?

Jenny Hrbacek: Yes, because I was a neonatal nurse. I really learned all of this through the directing of the Holy Spirit. He connected me with the right people at the right time and He just put the right questions in my mind. Then I thought, you know, I've got to tell people about this, because we really can't have victory over this disease, that we are letting it become something big and scary. We have the completely wrong approach in this country. I feel like that's why so many people are succumbing to the disease. They're spending their last penny. They’re suffering. And it’s because we have the wrong approach. We've got this thing upside down. And it's because our health care system is reactive. It's really a sick care system. We wait for you to get that diagnosis before we jump in and start with all the modalities. I just think it's a shame because we … think about this. We test people for diabetes. We check their blood sugar. We don't wait for them to become an insulin dependent diabetic before we help them. We check for cholesterol and then we start helping them with their diet. There are lots of things that we screen for, but we don't screen for cancer other than doing your breast exam or a mammogram or a PSA count. Those are really late diagnostics. A colonoscopy is great because it really can find colon cancer coming, but it's only looking in the colon. It's one small part of the body.

Marti Pieper: Yes. If we have ways to detect it early, why are we not doing that?

Jenny Hrbacek: I hate to say this, but it is our standard of care. Our standard of care is when you get cancer, we give you a drug. We're spending millions of dollars on drug therapies. Drugs are very toxic. And the thing is, these drugs are not the cure for cancer. If they were the cure, we would have the cure, right? So, surgery and chemotherapy and radiation are not the cure for cancer. In fact, I know an incredible gentleman that had testicular cancer, and he had a lot of radiation and it ended up causing what's called a vascular necrosis and it killed the blood supply in his hips. He was literally having a hard time walking or getting up off the toilet, something that we all take for granted. The therapies that we have are not the cure, and they are very hard on the body. And just the emotional impact of waiting until you have a diagnosis and you qualify for your insurance to pay for chemotherapy or to pay for surgery, or to pay for radiation, or to pay for one of these cancer therapies … it's just the wrong approach. I would much rather have someone do one of the tests in my book and find out gee, I am so early on, I could run down here to the hospital and they won't even be able to find it. Because that's when the body can really heal. Our Creator did not put us here on an Earth that would not sustain us. Yes, it’s a fallen world and there's disease around us. But there are so many things that can kill cancer stem cells. There are so many living enzymes and raw foods that can help our body to heal. There's a lot that we can do to prevent cancer in the first place. Because I'm going to say about 5 percent of cancers, they say, are genetic, meaning that you inherited the propensity from your parents. Ninety-plus percent of it, and this has even come out by Harvard, is a preventable lifestyle-driven disease.

 

Connect with Jenny Hrbacek

·         At beatcancer.org

·         At ihealthtube.com

·         At cancerfreeexperts.com

·         On Facebook

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