Discover Why Jesus Is Essential Today! - Ray Comfort

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And I find it really annoying. I don't like evangelism. And every day when I go out to

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preach the gospel or go to witness, I'm going somewhere I don't want to go to say something

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I don't want to say to people who don't want to hear it.

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Ray Comfort, it's great to have you on Charisma to be able to talk about what God is doing around

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the world in specifically evangelism and your new book, Why Jesus, is what we're going to be

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talking about. And that's so important that Christians share their faith, share the faith in

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the Messiah Jesus. And so tell me about why Jesus and why this is such an important book for today.

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You use the word that we don't use, the word evangelism. If you want to cause any YouTube

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video to flop or have an outreach, you use the word evangelism because most Christians are so

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excited about evangelism as they would be with a root canal. And I understand how they feel.

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I know I'm not excited about door knocking. When I was a brand new Christian, I went door knocking

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and I had the door open in front of me and a woman was standing there. And I just in a sincere voice

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said, I'm not a Jehovah's Witness. And she said, well, I am. So I have like a nervousness when it

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comes to knocking on doors. And if someone said to me today, we're going to talk about knocking on

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strangers doors, I'd freak out. And that's how people feel about evangelism. But we've got to

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do it. Charles Spurgeon called it an irksome task. It's really annoying. And I find it really annoying.

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I don't like evangelism. And every day when I go out to preach the gospel or go to witness,

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I'm going somewhere I don't want to go to say something I don't want to say to people who don't

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want to hear it. But there are certain keys that bring Goliath down to Zacchaeus that will bring

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the mountain down to a molehill. So the fear doesn't torment us. And that's why the book was

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published. Yeah. So I find that very interesting because you are known as somebody that is preaching

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the gospel out on the streets every day, all day. And that's what you're best known for, I believe.

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And, you know, going over the asking people if they've been if they've ever lied or stolen or

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cheated and, you know, by their own admission, they are a thief, an adulterer, you know, all these

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different things. And so you're really you do a really good job of pointing out our need for a

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savior. But you just said something that I think is eye opening. And you said you don't feel like

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doing it. Never do. If you don't feel like doing it, how do you get up in the morning to do that?

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Well, it's the same way a firefighter who arrives at a fire and he sees on the fifth story, it's in

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flames as a woman screaming out for help. Got two kids clinging to her. She's going to be burned to

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death within five minutes. He's not excited about climbing a 60 foot ladder with smoke and sirens

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and a screaming woman and screaming children. He'd be probably be terrified. He'd rather be at home

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with his wife, watching an old black and white movie, having a cup of coffee. But he's a

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firefighter. So what he does is he ignores his fears and thinks about the fate of that woman

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and her children. And that's what motivates him. That's what motivates me. You know, when I became

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a Christian, I stopped saying not your will, but mine be done and swung it around and said not my

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will, but yours be done. That's what a Christian is. Someone who's had a Gethsemane experience. So

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the Bible actually likens Christians to firefighters in the book of Jude. I think it's 23, 24.

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It says others making a difference, having compassion, pulling them from the fire. And the

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key is that word or those words, having compassion. Charles Spurgeon said, have you no wish for others

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to be saved? Then you're not saved yourself. Be sure of that. Was he saying you have to evangelize

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to be saved? No, no. He was saying if you've got love in your heart, if you're a Christian, if the

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love of Christ is within you, you will weep at the thought of the ungodly being swallowed by death

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and ending up in hell. And so it's love that gets me out of bed and seeking and saving that which is

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lost. I don't spend all day evangelizing. I go out twice a day to a local college. I've got a bike

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with a platform on the bike and I take my dog and the dog wears sunglasses. I ride straight into a

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college. College students come up and say, I love your dog. How does he wear sunglasses? How does

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she wear sunglasses? How do they stay on? Do you have a dog? Would you like to be on YouTube? 273

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million views. I'll ask if you think there's life after death. And I get these interviews and we put

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them on YouTube and it gets the gospel out there. So I am very fortunate to have that platform that

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motivates me to reach out to the lost. But we should all do it. Not exactly what I do, but we

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should, when we go to the supermarket, take some gospel tracks and just leave them with the

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attendant and say, you might like to read this when you've got a minute. That's all you have to

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say and say, have a great day. And then you just pray that that person will read the words of

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everlasting life. So every Christian has this moral obligation. We're like doctors with a cure to

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cancer. You know, there's a crime that we commit when we don't save someone from drowning. If

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someone's drowning and you let them drown, you just walk away when there's a rope right by your feet.

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You're guilty of what the law calls depraved indifference. Depraved, as low as you can get,

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and difference couldn't care less. And it seems that much of the church is guilty of the crime

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of depraved indifference. We're saying, world go to hell. I don't care. Well, I care and I want

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Christians to care. I love the words of D.L. Moody. He said, I'd rather set a thousand to work

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than do the work of a thousand. And so our task as a ministry, Living Waters, is to equip Christians,

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to show them how they can deal with their fears. We all have fears. I have fears. Every time I go

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to get on my bike, I've got these negative thoughts coming to me. I just ignore them like that

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firefighter. So I'm just going to go and do this because that's what I should do. Yeah. You know,

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Ray, one of the things that I know a lot of people don't share their faith with is because of the fear

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of not having the answers or getting stumped. You've been doing this for a long time. So I know

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that you have some great strategies to help people to get unstumped. But could you tell us about a

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time where you were stumped and then how you responded to that? Yeah, I remember I was open

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air preaching at Huntington Beach and a gentleman went past and with a cry in his voice of just

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absolute agony, he said, where was God when my wife died of cancer? And he just walked off. And

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I wanted to grab that guy and say, let's have lunch. Let's talk about this because all around us

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there is suffering, but suffering isn't an excuse to reject God. In fact, it's a very real reason

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to accept the Bible and God because suffering substantiates the truth of scripture. You know,

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if some, sometimes I meet people, say I'm an atheist because there's all this suffering. If

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there was a God, there'd be no suffering. There wouldn't be earthquakes and floods and diseases

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and cancer and pain and all these things. And I say, well, let me just share something with you.

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If you purchased a brand new Toyota and you're raving about how wonderfully it was made,

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and then you go through an intersection and you hit some pedestrians and all around you,

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people are lying in agony and suffering. You don't say, look at the suffering. Therefore,

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no one made the Toyota. That's a leap that doesn't make sense. It doesn't, it's just not coherent.

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No, you don't say nobody made the Toyota because of the suffering. You say, oh, something went

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terribly wrong. The brakes failed or something like that. And when we look around us, we see the

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genius of God's creative hand. It's no such thing as an atheist. The heavens declare the glory of

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God. We see those big puffy clouds, the blue sky, the rising of the sun, the setting of the sun,

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the stars, the moon, all these things speak to us of the glory of God. The flowers and birds and

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trees and sun, moon, stars, puppies, kittens, hummingbirds, the marvels of the human eye,

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the miracle of childbirth, male and female and all these species. We see the genius of God's

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creative hand. Everything is fearfully and wonderfully made. So we acknowledge that.

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Everybody does. Even an atheist knows this. He denies it because he's sleeping with his

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girlfriend and watching pornography. He doesn't like the thought of God's moral accountability.

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So he denies God's existence like an ostrich or this head in the sand.

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But when things go wrong, it's a leap of an illogical leap to say, well, look at all the

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suffering. Therefore, no one made everything. No, we should just say, oh, something went terribly

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wrong. And what went wrong is sin. We have disease, pain, suffering and death because of sin.

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In Genesis, God created everything and it was perfect. It was good. No pain, suffering, disease

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or death. But with sin, with evil came all these tragedies. So every time you see an earthquake or

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a tornado or a flood or people dying of cancer, in fact, every day 150,000 people die. All these

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are evidences. The Bible is true that we live in what's called a fallen creation. And yet God and

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His great kindness has provided us a hope of the future. He's provided us hope and death through

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the gospel. And that's what we proclaim. Amen. So even if people were stumped, there is still,

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you have the explanation of that's not part of God's design. Like, yeah, but you don't even need

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to get stumped. I'll tell you why. And this is what helps me. I am, when I go evangelizing,

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putting into practice two very important biblical principles. One is that I address the sinner's

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will to live. Everybody has a will to live. God has written eternity upon their heart. And even an

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atheist will lift up his eyes when I say something like this. So you're an atheist. Okay. I'm going

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to say you're an atheist. Okay. You ever read the Bible? And he says, yeah, a little bit. I said,

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do you know that in the Old Testament, God promised He would destroy death? And in the New Testament,

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we're told how He did it. Do you know that? And he'll go, no. Is he interested? Of course,

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he's interested, even though he's an atheist. Something in him says, oh, I don't want to die.

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That's His God-given will to live. And so I said, let me share with you why the Bible says we die.

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It says the wages of sin is death. God is paying you in death for your sins. Like a judge who looks

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at a criminal who's committed multiple murders, but he keeps saying, I'm a good person, judge.

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The judge says, I'm going to show you how serious your crime is. I'm giving you the death sentence.

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This is your wages. This is what you've earned. And I say to this atheist, sin is so serious to

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a holy God, He's given you the death sentence. You're on death row and your death will be evidence

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to you that God is deadly serious about sin. So I'm addressing His will to live. And often when

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I begin an interview for a YouTube channel, I'll begin like this. You're afraid of dying.

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And the person will often say, yeah, a little bit. I say, what do you mean a little bit? It's massive.

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It's a horror beyond words. Someone's going to take you, put you in a box and bury you six feet

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under the ground. It's horrific. So you know, the Bible says we're all haunted by the fear of death

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all our lifetime. Book of Hebrews chapter two. I said, it's a haunting feeling, isn't it? They go,

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yeah, it is. And I know what they're thinking. They're thinking, well, how does this guy know?

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I haven't told my mom, I haven't told my boyfriend, my girlfriend, but I'm terrified of dying. I think

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about it all the time. It really does haunt me. And so I say, let me share the gospel with you.

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Let me tell you why we die, because we've sinned. Go through the commandments and say you've sinned,

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you've earned your wages. And here's the gospel. Jesus Christ has abolished death and brought life

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and immortality to life through the gospel. We broke God's law. Jesus paid the fine. Now God can

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legally dismiss our case. He can grant us everlasting life as a free gift and I share the gospel.

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So that's the first string to my bow. The sinner's will to live. God's placed eternity upon his heart.

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And I tap into that. I'm not getting into apologetics. I'm getting into his will to live.

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And secondly, I address his conscience. Every single sane human being has a God given conscience.

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It's like a judge on the courtroom of the mind that agrees with the commandments. In fact,

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the Bible says it. Hebrews 2 verse 15 says, which show the work of the law, that is the moral law,

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the 10 commandments written upon their hearts, the conscience bearing witness, the conscience,

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the word conscience means with knowledge. So when I get to the commandments, what I do is I go

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through them knowing that on the inside there is this little judge on the courtroom of the mind

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saying, yes, that's true. It's wrong to lie, wrong to steal, wrong to commit adultery. And so I do

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what Jesus did and address that conscience. And I do it by saying, do you think you're a good person?

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And I go through the commandments. That will to live is so powerful and it's such an untapped

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untapped weapon that we can draw upon. Think of a waitress in her restaurant looks up, she says,

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three men come in and they're, they're obviously wheeling and dealing a lot of money. They're

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wearing three piece suits. There's little cases on the table. Does she feel intimidated? She

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doesn't want to butt in because they're talking big business. No, she's walks up and says,

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can I take your order? Why is she so bold? Well, she has what they want. She knows that they want

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food. And so she's bold in that knowledge that they want food. And you and I have what the world

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wants more than anything. Right at this free moment, there are literally, and I don't think

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I'm exaggerating, millions of people in these torture chambers called gyms, sweating their

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hearts out, lifting weights that are too heavy for them or drinking green slime because they

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want to extend their lives just a little. We have everlasting life. We're not religious. God forbid

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that anyone call me religious. I'd rather be called stumpy than religious. We have found the

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source of everlasting life. And in Christ, we have life. And if they only knew what we had in Christ,

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this is what Jesus said to the woman at the well. He said, if you knew who it was that was speaking

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to you, you would ask of him and he would give you living water. And so like that waitress,

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you and I have to be bold with the knowledge that we have what this world wants. Amen. You know,

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Ray, a lot of the questions that we have in this life, Jesus is the answer, but there's questions

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that people have that the rise of artificial intelligence, you know, since the last time you

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and I talked, artificial intelligence has become more and more an issue. And we have, people are

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questioning about the end times with this and how does this connect to the future? What is our

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response and how is Jesus the answer? Well, while the world might have their hearts fail for fear

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of that which is coming upon the earth, it doesn't really worry me. I'm not really concerned about

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all these different things. I love artificial intelligence. I use chat GBT if I'm going to

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prepare something. I thought, well, where do I go with this? I don't take it word for word. I just

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say, give me 10 points on the woman at the well. What can I learn from it? Within seconds and it

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sparks thoughts in me that I'm not had before. And so I actually love it. I'm not concerned about

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it taking over the world. God's in control. And Jesus said, when you see these things coming to

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pass, lift up your heads, rejoice because the end is near. And so we need not be like the world and

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be fearful of that which is coming upon the earth. And a lot of things to make us fearful. There's a

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huge increase in cancer which terrifies the world and terrifies even us as Christians.

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There is Middle East wars going on that have the potential for nuclear war. There's inflation

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that's eating away at the paycheck. All these terrible things. We should use them to drive us

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to our knees and to get closer to God because there are storms. And Jesus warned that the Christian

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and the non-Christian will both have storms. The wise men build his house on rock. That's the

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teachings of Jesus. And the foolish man ignored the teachings of Jesus. And he was likened to a man

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who built his house on sand. So when those storms come to the Christian, we can still rejoice. We

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have got a podcast and tomorrow I'll be interviewing a lady who got a kidney stone. And she went into

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hospital, septus said it and they removed her hands and her feet. And she's got little kids and a

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loving husband. And she's coming in and I met her a while ago. Another lady in Texas had the same,

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exactly the same thing happen. Both those women are rejoicing that God is in control.

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I've got a friend who's going through terrible suffering but there's always Romans 8 28 for the

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Christian. All things work together for good to those that love God and are called according to

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his purposes. So I love the words of Spurgeon when it comes to trials. He said, faith may swim

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where reason may only paddle. No matter what comes to us, we trust God. And that trust is

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our salvation. We say, Lord, I've got you by the hand. You've got me by the hand. You're going to

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take me through this dark period of time. Wow. So we don't need to fear the future. We don't need

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to fear technology. We know that God is with us in all things. And you mentioned cancer is on the

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rise and a very prominent person just came out with a cancer diagnosis and that would be King Charles.

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Whenever you and I had talked before, you were getting ready to have this amazing outreach to

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London, to the United Kingdom with these incredible tracks that look like the new notes that,

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or the bank notes that King Charles was on. But it had the plan of salvation on that.

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How did that go? And tell us a little bit about King Charles as well. Because before you told us

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that some people were considering him the Antichrist. What are we looking at now?

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Yeah. Boy, I really have no idea about prophecy. Whatever unfolds, I just say, thank you, Lord. But

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it's just all over the place. For the last 50 years, all these different names of who the

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Antichrist might be, I have no clue whatsoever. But I do see a lot of signs that are happening

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to tell us we're living, definitely in the last days, especially with Israel and what's happening.

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In fact, I've just written a book called Volatile, in which we see where God, through Ezekiel, named

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the nations that will attack Israel in the last days. Very exciting, because only God knows the

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future. We can't even tell what's going to happen with the weather tomorrow. It's just an estimated

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guess. Someone says they know the future, just move to Vegas and you'll make billions by just

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saying the dice is going to be a seven. We just haven't got a clue. And it shows us only God knows

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the future and he's given us the future in his word. So it's substantiated as being his word

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and the promise of everlasting life is therefore credible. So Charles has got cancer. I've just

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made a video and it's for our channel. I'm not even sure. It's called Just Witnessing YouTube.

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And the name of the video is, I hated doing this video and you're going to hate it too.

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I don't know if that'll stir people up to watch it, but it's about cancer and how it's on the

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increase, especially for young people. It's terrifying because there seems to be no real

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answer. They can't seem to hold back this terrible thing. However, Charles has got cancer and has

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made people think about it. So there's a good coming out of it then. With the outreach we did,

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let me tell you about my friend Mark Spence who's on our podcast. Very intelligent guy, loves the

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Lord with a passion. When I told him about the outreach to London for the King's coronation,

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he was in an office with me and he poo-hired it, walked out and said, it's just not going to work.

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And he went on the outreach and in the podcast, and this was so moving, he actually broke down in

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tears and said, I was wrong. He says, I've never ever experienced anything like happened in London.

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He said, I'm going to keep talking about it till the day I got to be with the Lord. And he said it

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with tears rolling down his cheeks. And that's because I read in 1953 when Queen Elizabeth was

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coronated, she promised before God and before the world to uphold the biblical truth of salvation

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by grace through faith without works. That's what she said, the Protestant affirmation that eternal

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life comes through trusting alone in Jesus without works, by grace through faith and that not of

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yourselves. And I thought, Charles is going to do this in front of the whole world. And so we printed

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these tracks with Charles on it and we had, I think, 16 million printed and we had them printed in

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Australia and in Europe and in the US. And in one day, 22,000 people gave out those 16 million

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tracks. And it was just wonderful. And Mark was saying, and so our whole team was saying in London,

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people were running around saying, wow, can I have more? They looked on them as valuable

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memorabilia with a perceived value because of what it was. So we're doing the same thing with the

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Olympics. With Charles, there was this contention from some Christians that Charles is the

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Antichrist and you shouldn't have his picture on the front here. And they were really offended by

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it. That's not going to happen with the Olympics. Everybody loves the Olympics. In fact,

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three billion people tune into the Olympics. That's 3000 million. So for our first print,

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we're getting 12 million printed and we've got the million euro, the Olympic million euro being

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printed in Europe. And in Britain, we've got one pound. Then we've got in Australia, we've got a

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dollar, Australian dollar, Olympics dollar, and the United States also. And these are completely

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free. You just pay for the shipping and people that want them, we want people to take advantage

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of this whole Olympics thing by giving out these tracks around the time of the Olympics when they'll

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be seen as memorabilia and they can get them free of charge. You'll get information about it by

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going to livingwaters.com forward slash Paris, livingwaters.com forward slash Paris. And you'll

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see the tracks there and you'll see how you can get them. Very cool. So are you going to be able

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to go there this time? Nope. No. And it's because I'm in my seventies, my wife's in my seventies. I

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don't want to leave her for a week with a crazy dog. I've spoken in a thousand churches and for

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years I have left her behind and I really at this stage of our life just don't want to leave her.

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And there's a huge team going and I'll have a video there to encourage people that they'll show

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in the meeting that they're having, the other convention. So I would love to go, but I've got

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other priorities. Amen. Those are good priorities and you definitely need to keep those straight

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there too. But you've got a great group of people that are working with you. You've got a wonderful

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team that does your videos and helps you get the gospel out there in ways on the streets, but in

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the modern day marketplace of YouTube and all these other venues where things are getting out

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there and sharing the gospel. Ray, how can we be praying for you and Living Waters?

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Yeah, just pray that God continues to bless the YouTube channel. I think back to the Crusades

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that they used to have, combined church crusades, say 50 years ago, they would take two years to

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pull together because getting churches to combine was like herding cats. They cost millions of

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dollars. You get 60,000 people in the stadium, most of whom were churchgoers or Christians.

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But today with a poke of a button, we can reach literally millions. Our YouTube channel,

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we've got two channels, Just Witnessing is just on 20 million views and Living Waters YouTube,

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273 million views. So it's just a matter of pushing a button after we create a video

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and seeing it watched around the whole world. In fact, we've even got a new channel called

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Living Waters Hindi channel. It's in Hindi and it's not going anywhere because we don't know how to

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contact people in India. So if anyone's got any contacts in India, contact our ministry because

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this is great potential to reach that huge market. Ray Comfort, thank you so much

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for sharing about why Jesus is the answer to life's most important questions. And thank you

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for putting this book together. Thank you for taking the time to share about that and other

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things during this conversation. God bless you. Thank you. Thanks for the opportunity.