Prophetic Visions and Decrypting the 'Do Over Year': Joseph Z Prophesies a Shift in America

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Joseph Z. It's great to have you here on Charisma and we are live right now. It is 11, 14 a.m.

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Eastern Standard Time for everybody that is watching right now. Let us know where you're

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watching from because we want to maybe get involved and get engaged with you. If you

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have questions, if you have comments, put those in the chat, put those in the comments

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and if it fits with what we're talking about, I'll try to bring those in there and because

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we appreciate all that. But Joseph, it's great to have you here. We've talked many different

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times over the last year and a half or so since we first met, God's really connected

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us and we appreciate that you really are speaking for the Lord in so many ways, in so many areas

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and you just have such a humility as you do that as well. This year, you'd said earlier

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in the year that it was a do-over year. That's right. And I kind of want to start off with

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getting an update on that do-over year word and how you've seen that unfold since it's

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November 15th right now. Oh man. Well, John, first of all, thank you for having me. We

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love Charisma. I got to tell you what you're doing and the voice you have, you and Steve

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and everybody that's just speaking so mightily around the world and amplifying voices. I'm

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just really privileged to be a part of what you're doing. So thank you for having me today.

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As far as the do-over word goes, I'll just get a running start at it. Back in 2015, I

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was in Trump Tower. I was in Trump Tower in 2015. Spirit of the Lord spoke to me and

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said, because I was asking him, who's going to win this? Is this the president that we're

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going to have? And he said, I've not graced you to know that. And I said, okay, wow. Well,

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thank you, Lord. And why am I here? But I began to ask him. He said, I told other people,

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you'll know who and you'll see what's going on. And I said, okay. And I said, so what's

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going to happen with America? And the Lord said, America will have one more round. It's

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not going down because the young lions are coming. And I thought, wow, that's amazing.

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So we know what happened in 16. In 2020, I woke up early in the morning. The Lord showed

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me in two different visions that Trump would lose the 2020 election by a technology. Showing

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me through a technology he was going to lose. On the heels of that, I asked the Lord, you

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know, well, what's going to happen in 24? What are we going to do? Well, first of all,

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the beginning of this year, New Year's Eve, even going up to that, the Lord spoke to me

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and said, this is going to be a do over a year, a do over a year. And he spoke to me

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also and said, this is in the hands of the church. Whatever happens with the election

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is in the hands of the church. And again, I'd asked him, is Trump going to win? Who's

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going to win this election? And he kept saying to me, he will win if the church shows up.

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If the church did not show up, we would forfeit our grace and our mercy for where we were

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going and what the Lord is providing for us. And so as I was looking at all this stuff,

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I got this word. It's a do over a year. So the do over a year represented both what took

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place in 16 and some of the things that took place in 20. In other words, Kamala was a

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part of that do over word. He was facing another female candidate just like he did with Hillary

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in 2015, 16. And that do over word was there. Then we saw the Chiefs win the Super Bowl.

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And we see all these things that just start unfolding and compounding. And the Lord spoke

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to me and said, I do do overs until my church wins. In other words, the battle's not over

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till we win. People say, how long do I got to go around this mountain? You keep going

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around the mountain till you win. You go around the mountain to just keep going around the

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mountain. He sets you up for victory. So I knew that the do over word was here, that

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the Lord wanted to finish what he started. That involves Israel, Jerusalem. It involves

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so many things. There's a part two coming to Israel. So this do over word, I also saw

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back in 2020, I saw Kamala's face and I saw Trump's face. Her face got prominent in his

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fated. And I knew she was going to be VP at that point. And I thought, oh, no, God, you

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said a do over word. Does that mean she's going to take this election? Is that what

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it means? Is Jezebel going to win? And the Spirit of the Lord spoke to me and just began

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to say, no, you got to stand on this. You got to keep rising. And then that solar eclipse

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happened, John. And just to go into this very quickly, you know, the Lord had sent me not

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only was I in a meeting and I heard the voice of God say, come up here, come up higher,

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Joseph, about a year and a half, two years ago, shortly on the heels of that, he sent

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me to the top of Pikes Peak in Colorado Springs. And I stood on the top of Pikes Peak. That

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is known as America's Mountain. So come up higher, go to the top of Pikes Peak. And in

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my ministry, many times God has me do prophetic acts. Right. Strange. But I do it. And I get

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to the top of Pikes Peak. And that is known as America's Mountain. It is the Purple Mountain

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Majesty in America, the beautiful, the actual location. From there, I went with Rick Renner

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to the seven churches of Revelation all over Turkey. I stood where the apostle John stood

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at his home, looking over the Temple of Artemis, where he would have stood in the mountains

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in Ephesus. And the Lord said to me, remember I said to you, come up higher, go to the top

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of Pikes Peak. Now you are standing where the apostle John stood, John the Revelator.

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When I began to have him finish the book of Revelation, first, second, and third John,

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I thought, Lord, you are showing me some interesting things. And he began to speak to me about

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America and being a watchman and that there was a due overcoming. And finally we ended

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up in the mountains of Ararat in eastern Armenia, eastern Turkey, right on the Iran border.

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We could see Iran, they could see us and we are standing. And what I truly believe, John,

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is Noah's Ark. I think it is Noah's Ark in the Drupiner site over in the mountains of

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Ararat. And I am standing there and I am getting a word as I am touring this site, we are filming,

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I am filming with Rick Renner at that location. And that is when the Lord spoke to me about

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four years of redemptive instability. I was at Noah's Ark and He said, you know how Noah's

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Ark floated above the terrifying thing, the storm, the flood, the reset of all humanity.

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And the Lord said, so shall it be with the United States. I am lifting you up above the

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storm with a redemptive instability, but it is for a good end. Now, I believe that is

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the do-over word. What has happened before will happen again, but now we have seen victory,

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that it surpasses the victory that our president saw, you know, eight years ago. And here we

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are looking at this and I believe eight is the number of new beginnings, eight is the

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number where you begin to see something new taking place. And now I have this word about

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four years of redemptive instability, that it is going to take a lot of shaking, a lot

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of instability to get us to a point of redemption. And once again, this next four years is in

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the hands of the Ecclesia and the church. And if we will rise, I believe we are going to

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begin to see what Jesus talked about with the fig tree. And that is what I see happening.

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All right. So you just said this morning, there is a lot there, there is a lot there.

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And I know you said that this morning, God spoke to you about a word from Luke 13 about

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the fig tree. So we will talk about that in just a moment. But you just laid out how all

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these things, how God brought all this word to you and you have the full word and then

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how it all came together as well. So how have you seen these things unfold? Because some

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things didn't unfold the way that we thought we did. We thought they would. Because I know

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at the beginning of the year when we first talked about this do over word, this do over

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year word, it was still Trump versus Biden. And it is interesting how it then changed

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to Trump versus a female. It is still a similar, it is still a do over, but it is not the do

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over that we originally thought. That is right. As you have seen things flow throughout this

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year, what have you learned in this process? I have learned to trust the Lord because the

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Lord spoke this to me and if people have watched my program, like they watch you guys, I have

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said multiple times, the Spirit Lord said, I am going to surprise them all. I am going

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to surprise everybody. And I really, the Lord got apprehended my attention mainly when that

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April 8th solar eclipse happened. Ironically, John, on April the 8th is when I flew from

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Texas actually to Turkey and we were there for 40 days. So 40 days after that solar eclipse,

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within 40 days of that I was standing at Noah's Ark. So from the time of the solar eclipse,

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April the 8th, whatever the date landed on, I remember checking and we were at Noah's

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Ark 40 days later. And so that is when I realized God was speaking something and He said to me

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at the beginning of the year, America will either experience Nineveh or fire and it is

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a choice. So this do-over word did not really look like a real do-over when you got Biden

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going on and yes, he faced all these things before. But when Kamala took that seat of

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authority temporarily of the runner-up, that is when the do-over word got very strong for

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me. And the Lord spoke to me and said, if America will humble itself and look to its

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former foundation, just even look to the former foundation, there will be a Nineveh experience.

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And the Lord spoke to me and said, America will either bow the knee by fire or by Nineveh.

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If they repent, they can repair. Or fire is coming and they will bow the knee either

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way. And the other thing they had to do is stand with Israel. But when she got in that

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place of power and standing with it, I realized that something good was going to take place.

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I started to sense it in my spirit. And then in June, I heard the words, the shot heard

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around the world. And July 13th, the very morning, eight hours before he took the bullet

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to the ear, eight hours beforehand, that morning live, I said, I hear the shot heard around

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the world and it's going to create a Paul Revere anointing. And that happened. So the

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do-over word, I believe was fulfilled. You know, we know in part, we prophesied part

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of that whole thing. But I believe we are headed towards a Nineveh experience here and

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it's giving us four more years. That's what I'm seeing.

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Yeah. So with these four more years, God spoke to you this morning, you told me, and this

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will be actually the first time that you've released this word. So let's hear that.

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Okay, John. So I get up and this is how God speaks to me. Sometimes I wake up early in

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the morning and it comes subtle. Sometimes I see it written in the air. Sometimes I have

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a vision or a dream. And today came like a word of knowledge to me. And I began to look

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at, you know, we're in 24. We're going on this four year cycle. Obviously, there's a

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presidential scenario we're walking into. So I woke up and the Lord began to remind me

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of Luke chapter 13. And then I saw four years. And then I saw the United States of America.

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Luke chapter 13 goes like this. Luke 13, it says in verse six, he also spoke this parable.

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I'll just read it very quickly. A certain man had a fig tree planted in his vineyard

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and he came seeking fruit on it and found none. Found none. Okay, verse seven. Then

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he said to the keeper of his vineyard, look, I can just go right here to the board here.

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Yeah, a little bit. It says, then he said to the keeper of his vineyard, look for three

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years I have come seeking fruit on this fig tree and find none. Cut it down. So the word

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of the Lord was cut it down. Something needs to happen. Something needs to change. Cut

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it down. Why does it even use up the ground? Now, that would be the word that many voices

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are saying and many people would be, you know, declaring in some negative prophetic camps

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like, oh, it's judgment. It's over with. Cut it down, right? And so we're looking at this.

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Cut it down with some of the words we heard from different people. Verse eight. Now it

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says, but he answered and said to him, sir, I believe this is the intervention of the

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church right here. This is the word I see for America. Sir, let it alone this year also

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until I dig around it and fertilize it. Now when the Super Bowl was happening, and I know

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this is wild and I use these parallels, but sometimes God speaks to me through pop culture.

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There was an extension of a, what do you call that, overtime? They went into overtime for

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an extension and they ended up winning in a season of overtime. And I heard the Lord

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say I'm taking America from a time of grace to a time of mercy and it's extended. I believe

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there was a three year pivotal moment where symbolically with the scripture, people were

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looking at it and saying, we're done. You better buckle up. You better batten down the

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hatches. It's going to be over with. It's going to be terrible. Now I know there's still

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going to be major challenging things that happen, but I saw this and then I saw it go

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into this, but there was an intervention here. Sir, let it alone this year also. In other

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words, one more chance, God. One more round until I dig around it and fertilize it. Let

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me just absolutely pull all the stops out. I know this tree has not been bearing fruit.

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I know the way things have been, have been terrible and it's not right, but let's pull

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out all the stops and just fertilize the tree. Give it everything we got one more time. And

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if then it does not produce, well then we're going to as verse nine says, verse nine says,

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and if it bears fruit well, but if not after that, you can cut it down. Now I'll look right

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back at you. I believe this, John and everybody watching right now, I believe this, that the

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Spirit of the Lord is saying very clearly that there was this season where it was bad,

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bad, bad. My daughter, Alice and Joy, my wife and I have our wonderful daughter, Allie,

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and she had a very clear vision and we shared it, you know, days leading up to the election.

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She saw a building and the building tipped left really hard, really hard, almost to the

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point it was going to break. And it was right at the point of destruction when suddenly

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there was an intervention and it lunged all the way to the right, but only half as far.

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It only had to go half as far to get right sized and turn normal. So left obviously represents

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something, right represents something, and then it right sized. And then all the people

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in the building said, I can't believe this thing is still standing. And then they ushered

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in a battle worn elephant. The elephant was coming and this elephant came into the building

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and it was full of dust and it was beaten up and all that. And they were cleaning off

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the elephant and getting it ready. And the elephant was receiving a retrofit. So here,

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here's what I sensed, John, and what I heard this morning is Luke 13 is talking about this

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parable of the fig tree. And the Lord said, so shall it be with America. I was reminded

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of the hurricane, the second hurricane that hit Florida. When that first hurricane hit,

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I was drawing on the whiteboard the area it was going to hit eight days beforehand. I

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drew on the whiteboard, there's something coming in the Carolinas. It's going to strike

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right here. I didn't know it was a hurricane. It's going to damage all this. The second

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hurricane came. And when it came, the Lord said, pay attention to this. And when it came,

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it struck Florida. It was going to be a category five. It went down a little bit. And suddenly

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when it hit Florida, I know people that I knew were calling me. We were up all night.

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We were interceding against it. And the news said that I got punched out of the hurricane.

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The wall collapsed and it did minimal damage. It did damage, but minimal damage. And the

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Lord said, and that will be the United States of America if the church shows up. So here's

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what I believe is happening. What has happened and what will happen is this. The parable

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of this fig tree is where we are now. And I believe we now have four years to really

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rise with righteousness. The church do its job. The government do its job. All the sectors

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of society do its purpose because national repentance, because the Lord spoke to me that

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if the nation repents, it can repair. But nations repenting don't mean sackcloth and

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ashes like they once did and cry out to God only, you know, and everybody gets born again

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in the nation. They need to go back to the divine purpose by which God made them in the

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first place. In other words, America needs to go back to its constitutional foundation.

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It needs to go back to why the forefathers founded it. America is a Christian nation

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that has been hijacked by a bunch of liberal wicked lizard overlord scumbags and the pervert

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mafia trying to run this thing into the ground. But what has happened now is we're seeing

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a resurgence and an act of mercy by God Almighty. And he's brought this. So here we are. Luke

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13, the parable of the fig tree, I believe represents four years. We have three years

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to begin bearing fruit and four years is an act of grace and extension of mercy that I

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believe by twenty twenty eight, we're going to see a new America one way or the other.

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We're going to be in a new beginning one way or another. And if we rise to meet this occasion

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and if the church will stand not only to empower the current administration, not just empower

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them, but hold their feet to the fire to make sure that they do promises kept to promises

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made, I believe that the church will rise up to do that. We will see this four years

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of fertilizer, everything going around the tree. And I believe it will not be cut down.

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It will start a new saga. A new beginning will take place and we will go into another

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cycle where our children's children will see the goodness of the Lord in the land of the

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living. And I believe we are staying off the apocalypse for another round if we do this

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word. So we can either have fruit that remains or the apocalypse. Those are the two choices

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that we have. Goodness. So whenever you think about fruit that remains and the fertilizing

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the ground and this fig tree actually producing fruit, what do you think that that would look

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like in this country for twenty twenty eight and beyond even? Like just I mean, I'm not

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even saying prophetically, just kind of dream. Like what would this be like? You know, I'm

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I actually had a dream during twenty twenty of I was it was nighttime and I was flying

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around the Statue of Liberty and the Statue of Liberty. There was that was a real flame

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that it was holding. It was not just it was not just the whatever they have there now.

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They're stained glass or whatever. But it was like a real flame and it was almost like

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a sword. Like it was bigger than than what's there. And from the from the hand, from that

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flame, it actually turned what we know as a green statue back into its original bronze

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and its original original form. And it's something that I've been praying for, praying through

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because I'm like, God, what does this mean? Because obviously in twenty twenty, that's

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that's when I received this December 8th, twenty twenty. And I'm like, OK, God, this

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didn't happen the way that I thought it would. But we're starting to see some of these things.

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Like with what you just said, fertilizing the ground and moving forward and that restoration,

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that just kind of triggered that that memory of that dream. Where what do you see about,

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you know, just play with me a little bit and what do you see going forward if we do repent?

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Yeah, I certainly have my own opinions and all these things. But aside from those, I

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do believe the Lord is saying it will be a retrofit. And you say, well, what does that

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mean? I believe America will be retrofitted if we go forward. So I believe we'll get the

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Reagan type of aero back. I believe we're going to see some of that. I think the right

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sizing involves an economic miracle. I believe the Lord will do things that will absolutely

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astonish everyone. I believe we'll begin to see oil production like we've not seen before.

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I even have a word about A.I. So everybody's talking about it's the Terminator coming,

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right? It's going to be terrible. I think that's very probable. I think that could be

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very dangerous. Yet in that all these doom and gloom things that are coming with it,

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I have this sense of hope. The Lord is saying, who do you think really is in charge of the

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nations here? Who do you think really is in charge of all this stuff? And the bottom line

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is this, that even with A.I. and all of its nefarious potential, I sense very clearly

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that if we do our part and we rise up in the middle of this crooked and perverse generation,

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I believe even A.I. will serve the church for a season. I believe that there will be

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holographic images where people can preach all over the world without leaving their studios

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or homes. I believe that we're going to have online conferences like we've never seen before

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in a virtual manner that will touch all of society, all of the culture globally. So I

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see a lot of things that God's doing in this space. I believe that we will see economic

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miracle resurgences. I believe we will put to death this woke idiotic ideology, this

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demonic stuff. We're going to put it down. We're going to see a lot of these things that

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just begin to rise up. And I believe America will begin to get another round, but it'll

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be a retrofit. In other words, a lot of the good that was from the old with a brand new

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purpose from the new, the new generation coming. There's going to be technological marvels.

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There's going to be things that are very challenging. And yet at the same time, we're going to find

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a new way. So it's going to be kind of like old souls with new tech for a better way of

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saying it. In other words, people that want to return back to physical mail, people that

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want to go right back to writing letters like they once did, because there's a lot of young

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people that are saying, I got a letter. Look at this. They open the mail. They're like,

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look at this thing. Wow. And they're starting to reject some of this digital stuff and want

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something that's corporeal, something they can put their hands on. And they say, my goodness,

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this is amazing. And yet there will be this technological merging. So that's what I see.

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I see a retrofit. I see the younger generation, generation alpha becoming like old souls,

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peer class people that say, you know what, we're a lot like the World War II generation.

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We're a lot like people that stood up and we were builders. And I believe that is the

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young lions movement. Interesting. That's what I see, John. If we do this four years

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right. Yeah, that's what I see. So what are some of the key things that we need to do

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to get this four years right? I know the church needs to really be who God has called us to

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be. We can't sit back on the sidelines and we got to continue to pray fast and do the

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things that God's called us to do. But what are some things that you believe that we should

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do as well? What are some action points? Oh, absolutely. Here, let's get very practical.

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So on the individual level, like you're watching right now, our audience is watching, you're

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watching. I'm talking right to you as an individual who's watching, not everyone. I'm talking

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to you, the individual. Here's what you do. You discover who your tribe is. Because when

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you find your people, you find your purpose. And when you find your purpose, you find your

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place in what I call the 21 gift spectrum of the body of Christ. There are 21 gifts.

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There's nine manifestational, seven motivational and five governmental. And when you find your

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location in the body of Christ, now you're going to find your place in the tapestry.

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And when people find their place in the tapestry of the body of Christ, their purpose ignites

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with others because other people need you, you need them. And when that happens, then

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it creates a ripple effect through the entire body of Christ. And we're going to begin to

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stand as what we're called to be and begin to bring proper order to this culture. And

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that applies to both people born again, not born again, all of it in the church, the government

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and the marketplace. But if you find your place, if you find your tribe, if you find

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your people, you'll find your purpose. And that's a huge piece to this. So practically

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speaking, yes, pray fast, call out to God, we need to do that. But the sons of Issachar,

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John, it says this in 1 Chronicles chapter 12 verse 32. It says the sons of Issachar,

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they knew the signs of the times, they knew what to do about it. But there's a third little

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known piece that people rarely talk about. And that is that their kings and their brethren

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were with them, or rather their leaders, their military folks were with them. There's 200

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of them. And it says that their brethren were with them, meaning this, they not only could

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see what was going on and know what to do about it. A lot of people have the first two

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down. They can read the signs of the times, they can see it, they know what to do about

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it. We got a lot of armchair quarterback prophetic voices that are hanging out in their mom's

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basement saying, here's how it's going to be, you know, but they don't rightly align

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in the body. In other words, the third part of being a son of Issachar is you're rightly

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aligned with your brethren, you're aligned with those that you're called to be with.

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And when you find your tribal alignment, then you're going to begin to put order to things.

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So just as much as we pray and fast, you get to get with your people. You know who your

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people are. And that's why I like hanging with you, John. That's how we do stuff together.

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That's why voices are uniting. If things are too small, men fight. If it's big enough,

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we'll unite. But when you find your place in that unification, that's how we begin to

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bring real change here, not just praying, being in the right location with your people.

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Yeah. Being in the right location with your people, because we're not called to be alone

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in this, you know, like there. I mean, Jesus had his 12 disciples, you know, like there's

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there's, you know, Paul had Barnabas and, you know, he traveled with with people and

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there was a purpose for them being together. And you can you can encourage each other and

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lift each other up when you're you're down. And that's always it's always a good thing.

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And so I heard if somebody there's a there's a great old quote that says, if you want to

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get somewhere fast, go to go alone. But if you want to go far, go together. And so in

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order for us to actually go far and not just burn out quickly, like sprinting, then we

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need to go together. And so I think that's a word for the churches that, you know, there's

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a lot of division amongst different churches. Unfortunately, there's a lot of that spirit

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of competition there, which I hate. But it's it is so true. Because we have our own little

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fiefdoms as churches. And that's that's not a good thing, because we're supposed to be

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in the kingdom of God. And we're just stewards of his kingdom. So if we come if we can come

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together, then we're going to be able to go far and see and see what you were just talking

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about this fig tree, fertilizer. I believe this too. And this is something important.

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This is for our audience, because you and I are very much in the charismatic, supernatural

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space. I believe God is also bringing a right sizing to the prophetic. He's bringing a right

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sizing to many of these areas where the sensational is going to kind of go to the wayside and

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results based prophecy is going to take the main step up. And then, you know, because

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a lot of people they're looking for the sensational, and they're missing the spirit. When people

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look for the sensational, which I enjoy sensational, if God wants to turn all our teeth platinum

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and knock us on the ground and gold dust is flying like a hurricane, I'm in. But the bottom

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line is, is it just better have results when it's done. And even if it doesn't, if God

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wants to do it, I'm in. Yeah, I think our focus should be that we we emphasize we emphasize

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results based ministry, results based prophecy, and this crazy word that we've got to add

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to the mix. It's an H word, and it starts with an H and it plays out with humility.

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And we need to have that in the prophetic. And I'm thinking of this because you know,

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Second Corinthians 11, John, and you know, the scripture, but it talks about such a false

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apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into apostles of Christ. But it

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says and it's predicated on it because it says in verse 14, and no wonder for Satan

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himself transforms himself into an angel of light. And I believe there's a lot of people

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that in these sensational desires to see things and predict every outcome and do all this

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stuff, which if God shows us, we should. But really, when you when you stretch too far

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into what is not written, right, can happen is the devil can deceive you as an angel of

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light. And that can happen to believers and unbelievers if we're not really in the word

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of God. And I'll just say this piece here. And that's a first Corinthians chapter four,

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verse six, it says, Learn from us to not go beyond what is written. And when you get a

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hold of not going beyond what is written, you're not going to be deceived. You become

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a lover of the truth. And I'll tell you what what takes place then is you'll begin to absolutely

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elevate in what God's called you to do. And as a whole, the body of Christ will get healthier.

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And we can absolutely have love for one another. And I believe there will be no deception among

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us if we just become lovers of the word of God with these gifts. I just really want to

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say that because I believe people are so looking for what's going to happen next. They have

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what do you call it? Like a prediction addiction. And they want to they want to know what's

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coming. And and I believe in that. And God shows us. But prophets hear me. And I love

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you. You know, I'm in this space. And I say this to myself and you. But hear me. If you

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haven't seen it and you haven't truly dreamt it and it's not really what God's showing

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you, please say only what you've seen and then take it through the lens of the scripture.

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And you're going to keep yourself safe and others safe, too.

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That's a great word, Joseph. You know, especially in this in this season right now, where I

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think because of elections, there's there's a lot of extra prophetic things or prophetic.

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Yeah, there's a mania going on for sure. And things have been kind of trending recently.

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And this is a good a good segue into the like a side topic here. But there has been a lot

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of extra biblical, you know, or not extra biblical, not like that, that they're more

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biblical. But they're outside of the Bible. They're outside of the normal prophetic where

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you've had the Hopi Indian prophecy about the man with the red hat coming to help bring

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bring rightness and reclaim the land. You have the cliffhide for predictive language

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model thing back in 2009, where he said that, you know, aliens were going to invade basically

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39 days after this trigger event of Joe Rogan interviewing Donald Trump. Now that was that

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was made. That prediction was made before Joe Rogan even had a podcast in 2009. And

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so that just kind of makes you wonder. And yesterday, as we're recording this live on

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the 15th, yesterday was the UAP hearing. And so there's, there's a lot of strange things

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that are happening there. But I love what you said, that you need to just when God says

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something to you, and you feel that this is God, write it down, don't add to it, and compare

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it with the word. Whenever we see some of these extra biblical outside of the Bible

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prophecies, how do we deal with those things, especially if parts of them seem to be coming

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Well, that's such a great question, John, and I'm gonna I'm gonna jump right into this,

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because I think this is going to help people. You know, there's nothing new under the sun.

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So we had everybody from the Oracle of Delphi to the Nostradamus is to all these people.

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Even people have done things where horses you know, they thought horses were psychic

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back in the day, they'd test a horse and it clack its foot, you know, for you know, predicting

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things and so people do that, or even all the way to Groundhog's Day and all this stuff.

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People have this innately in their fabric of their being, where they just have a spooky

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mystical thought process. That's why people get into horoscopes. That's why people get

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into all this stuff. The bottom line is this, even the stars speak of the glory of God,

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and that's been perverted with all the you know, the stuff we see. Astrology. Yeah, that's

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right. The bottom line is when people are looking for these things, it's because it's

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like that U2 song, that old song that says I have run, I have climbed, right? Yeah. It

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says, but I still haven't found what I'm looking for. And the bottom line is every person,

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every person ever created or born is looking for the answer. They're looking for the Lord

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Jesus Christ. And there's all these counterfeits out there. So can people that are not born

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again make predictions and they come to pass? The answer is a resounding yes, they can because

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they're human beings. They're made in the image and likeness of God. They might be only

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His creation, not His children, but they still have that DNA. They still got that fabric

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in them. So even unbelievers can have a prophetic gift in them that is unredeemed, used by demons.

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Therefore it's more psychic and it's a mess, but it is a gift from God built in their DNA.

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Nice and nice people have that. So what you see is the fabric of creation and reality

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all declares the glory of God. And when people pervert that or they tap into it through the

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wrong lens with the wrong compunction, they got a demonic unction on it. They'll begin

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to look at it through that and they'll begin to interpret things. They can actually find

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truth. They can find facts, but they'll be ever learning and never come to the knowledge

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of the truth, the way, the life. And so what is happening is, is yes, as far as like people

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say, well, I've seen this, therefore we have the truth. Big deal. Even a blind squirrel

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gets a nut every now and then. You got to recognize that when people are going through

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this kind of stuff, yes, there's going to be accurate things and demonic powers, just

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like the slave girl that was prophesying, right? Prophecying to Paul. And finally he

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turned around being greatly annoyed and said, come out of her in Jesus' name. But she was

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saying true things. She was saying, follow these men of God, listen to them. They're

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telling you the truth. And this...

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I've always been confused by that because why would a demon say to, you know, say follow

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Paul, follow his teachings? Why would a demon say that? I don't know.

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They weren't declaring Jesus Christ as Lord, but it kept, they were close enough to the

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truth to continue getting attention, but not landing at Jesus Christ as Lord. Reject pagan

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gods and come to Jesus. That's not what the demon was saying, but it was staying close

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enough to the action to get attention. That's what the spirit of Jezebel does in the Book

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of Revelation also. Close enough to the action to still get attention and stay in control.

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And people aren't quite sure what's operating there. And you recognize that over and over

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again. How about when, what was it, Saul, and he went to the Witch of Endor and pulled

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Samuel out of the abyss? The bottom line is I think that really was Samuel. I think things

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were really happening. There are powers that people can do. Now that's Old Testament, just

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for everybody here. You can't do that in the New Testament. Jesus Christ went down there,

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emptied out that location. Right. He fixed that mess. We can't mess in that stuff. But

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the bottom line is, is there are powers that people have as free moral agents, human beings

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is what I'm talking about, and they can do things if they step into these realms we're

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not supposed to go into because there's a touch of God on every person. And if they

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don't find Jesus, they can authorize things in the natural, including this UFO mess, including

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alien activity, including demonic things from the other side of the veil. Humanity can tear

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the veil like it talks about in Revelation 9 where it's going to open up the bottomless

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pit. I personally believe things like CERN and things like these scientific experiments

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is no different than the Tower of Babel in Genesis chapter 11 where humanity said, we

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will do these things. And the bottom line is they can, they can, they can rebel against

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God and allow some of these things as free moral agents because we have physical bodies,

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we have natural authority to open up and give permission to spiritual beings to come into

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the natural. It's the same reason Jesus had to be born of a virgin. So my point is this,

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is can they predict things? Yes. Can they see things? Can they, can they see things

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that are legitimate? Yes. Even Pilate's wife had a dream about Jesus stay away from that

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man she said, right? And the bottom line is people have these experiences but ultimately

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angels of light can step into that category, begin to deceive those who have real experiences

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or even real gifting without Jesus, without the Word of God as our bedrock and then you

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add that element to being a lover of the truth. You must love the truth. If you're a lover

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of the truth and you're in the Word of God and you know Jesus Christ is your Lord, no

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matter who predicts what, bip-bop-bo-bo, they're not going to be able to land what God's really

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saying. They'll begin to say all kinds of things and even Christians will fall for it

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if they're carnal. And that's why we got to keep preaching this Bible, John, and I so

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appreciate you because you do that. And if we're lovers of the truth, meaning there's

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only one thing that gives us the truth and we stand on this and then we get prophetic

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words and we run it through the truth with a love of the truth, you'll never be deceived.

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It's impossible. That is so good. Thank you for bringing some clarification to that. I

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love how you explained about how, yes, these things are legitimate, but they're not from

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God. I mean, we are made in God's image, but that's the difference between creation and

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children. I thought that was so key there. Before we wrap up, I know there's a big fight

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tonight between Mike Tyson and another guy, Jake Paul, which is very interesting, but

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God gave you a word about that. And I don't want to miss this opportunity to kind of recap

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that and hear what you have to say. Yeah, John, I'll share what I know. And so, you

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know, we know in part we prophesy in part, but in 2020, here's the word I got. And I'm

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not trying to make a prediction here because I don't want to get everybody going because

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there's no upside to this prediction. Yeah, if this is the case. But in 2020, I got done

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with the New Year's Eve service, I walked into a back room where many of my leaders

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and many people were. And I have a lot of this date stamped. And I've said this over

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the years, so we have it live so people know this. I walked in the room and I saw vision

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suddenly, I said, it came out of my mouth, a heavyweight champion or a heavyweight fighter

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is going to come out of retirement and contend. And there's going to be death involved. I

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saw death. I thought what in the world? And so I shared it and people back then started

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messaging me because shortly on the heels of that Tyson came out and he was I don't

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know if it was Roy Jones or who he was fighting at the time. But he came out and he was doing

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a basically a non sanctioned fight with a former heavyweight also and came out and people

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like, is he going to die? What's happening here? And I just said, I don't know. I saw

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that. And so here we are in a do over a year. Seeing these things happen. I believe this

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regardless of if that is him or if this is all going to take place, I believe either

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way the word is that we're seeing a generational collision that precedes the spirit of Elijah

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because the word of the Lord is that the spirit Elijah comes to bring the hearts of the father

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and the children back together. And sometimes there has to be a schooling that takes place

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first. So I believe it has to do with generations. I believe we're going to see an outcome here.

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And I'm still praying through that. And I pray safety over Iron Mike and I pray safety

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over Jake. I don't want anybody harmed. But I did see that in 2020. I don't know if it

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applies to this. If it does, I need to pray and see what the Lord is really saying next.

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Yeah, for sure. And you mentioned about a generational thing. And so there's a generational

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shift in this post election world now, too. I know God has spoken to you about the generations

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there. Can we just kind of end on this note here? For sure, John. Well, the generational

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shift is this. I believe that when the spirit of Elijah comes, reformers always come on

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the heels of darkness that has overreached and continued to sow darkness and sow and

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sow some more. Ahab and Jezebel sowed wickedness and sowed darkness unashamedly, unabashedly.

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They just kept sowing and sowing and doing wickedness and doing wickedness and violating

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the Lord God Almighty. And they kept doing it. And when darkness continues to sow without

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any turn, without any repentance, without any concern, without any blushing, Jezebel

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never blushed. It got to the point that they sowed. And when you do that, eventually darkness

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will reap. And what darkness reaps when it continues to sow is a reformer. And what happened

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with Jezebel and Ahab, they pushed so hard that they finally reaped Elijah. And I believe

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Elijah comes and he brings a generational merging because the end cannot come until

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the spirit of Elijah comes and merges the hearts of the fathers back to the hearts of

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the children. And I believe very clearly we are stepping into that time frame where the

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spirit of Elijah of reformation in every generation gets a reformer. They get their opportunity.

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We're stepping into the spirit of Elijah right now where there's going to be a generational

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merging meaning the old and the young working together. The book of Proverbs says the glory

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of young men is their strength and the glory of old men is their gray hair. You put that

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together, you have wisdom with momentum. You have wisdom with results. And I believe God

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is saying that is the spirit of Elijah. He's trying to bring that onto the scene before

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the end. And that is just what Bible teaches us. So that's what I see as a generational

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merging.

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Yeah, that's very encouraging because I feel like I'm starting to get some gray hairs in

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different places. But I'm still strong. I'm still in the strong. But yeah, so I'm starting

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to get dreams and I'm still getting visions. So I'm turning 40 in January. But yeah.

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Congratulations. Yeah. But Joseph, there's so many more things I'd like to talk to you

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about. But I know our time is our time is short here today. But thank you so much for

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going live with me and talking about this spiritual environment that we're in right

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now, especially with what God has spoken to you in the past and how we've seen that unfold

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in this year. I know there's more things to come, but you've given us a lot of hope to

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look forward to say this do over year is looking good. That lets us analyze this ground and

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let's get ready for this next season because we got to take care of what God's given us.

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This is a window of opportunity that we can't miss. Would you pray for for us for everybody

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that's been watching? I'll leave you with this thought too. You know, darkness doesn't

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want to go out quietly. These these wicked lizard overlords and all the stuff they want

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to do. They want to bring evil forward and they want to do it. They are not going to

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go peacefully. But if we keep rising, it'll be just like the blue line and the red line

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in the middle of the night, the red the blue line popped up at about three in the morning

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and it tried to meet the red line. But there was just too much of us. We came it and I

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believe that is happening in the spirit. If we keep rising, no matter what they try, we'll

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overcome it. Now, I'd love to pray, Father, I bless every viewer right now. I come into

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agreement with John and all the audience today. Everybody is watching us live. We bless you.

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Listen to me. God is with you on a bad day. You are anointed to be the very best there

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is. God has called you. He's causing you to shine in the middle of a dark time. Galatians

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1 4 says that it is the will of God that you be delivered from this present evil age. So,

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Lord, we rise up in the will of God and we say, Lord, thank you for your delivering power.

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Thank you for what you've done in our nation. Thank you that we've got one more round. Thank

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you, Lord, that even as darkness tries to respond, we are the red church, the blood

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bot believers, and we know how to stand against this nefarious power. And let me say something

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right to you who are watching right now. You are going to be OK. You're going to be OK.

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God is with you and Jesus wants you to win even more than you do. He wants you to rise

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and shine even more than you want it. He wants you to find your tribal alignment even more

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than you want it. He wants this nation and all the nations rescued even more than they

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do. God is not willing that any should perish. He's long suffering. And that's why the end

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hasn't come suddenly because he's waiting on the church to continue rising. All creation

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is groaning and waiting for you. So I bless you in Jesus name. I speak life over you and

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God is with you. Don't you be afraid. Keep watching. Keep discerning because Jesus is

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coming soon. I love you, John. I love you, too, Joseph. Thank you, everybody, for watching

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