Faith in Action: From Stewardship to Financial Dominion Part 2

0:01 Hey there, and welcome to Faith in Finance, where your values and your financial vision come together. I'm your host, Geil Thompson, Registered Rep for Joseph Eden Capital, a sister firm of Joseph Wealth Management. Every week, I'll be walking with you through the tools, truths, and strategies that help you build wealth with purpose, clarity, and peace. Because your money isn't just about what you have. It's about what you're building. Let's get started. Each week we break down how capital moves, how markets shift and how you can position your resources with wisdom and strategy to build ownership, grow wealth and establish lasting legacy. Today, we continue our two part series with a man who has shaped generations with his revelation on faith, wealth and kingdom purpose, Dr. Bill Winston. If you missed part one, we talked about the power of vision and God's blueprint for wealth. From Joseph's storehouse to modern stewardship. Dr. Winston, welcome again.

1:33 Thank you, Georgie. Thank you very much. This has been amazing. So, Dr. Winston, I just want to open up this segment by talking about a scripture in particular. It's Deuteronomy 8 .18, where the Bible says he gives us power to get wealth. Can you talk about that power? Well, the power that God is really referring to there is from the Holy Spirit. Let's talk about it. The anointing that he gives you. The anointing is a performance enhancer. Once a person gets born again, there is a performance that they can have that overrides all the natural performance. It's kind of like putting a booster on a rocket. That it's this extra augmented power that you can have. And it's power to think. It's power to do something.

2:28 And this gives you an advantage when there's times that other people may be failing in the market and so forth. But this one gives you insight. This one gives you the ability to actually make the choice that you thought about. Wow. Because sometimes it takes courage in investing. When we had our first ministry of shopping malls, when we first got the shopping mall in our ministry, in Chicago land, this shopping mall came through this power to get wealth. God said to me, buy that shopping mall. Yes. That thought was given to me with power. In other words, I couldn't think of that myself. Right. It was too big for me. God had to think it through you. He had to think it through me. And that's what... Deuteronomy 8, 18 is all about. Pastor, now I have a question.

3:28 When God thought that thought through you and he said, buy that shopping mall, we're talking 70, literally over three acres of land. What immediately was your reaction? Because oftentimes when God gives a vision. Especially when he tells us to step out on our finances, talking about taking risk. The first thing people do is fear said, said. And I know you've talked about before that parasite spirit that comes to paralyze us, to keep us where we are. How did you believe God to push beyond yourself to say, I'm going to trust God. And if he says I can buy them all, despite what I may think about myself or what I feel, I believe and trust what he said. Well, that's where faith comes in. And faith gives you this power to do something or to say something when naturally you think you don't think you would have it. Yes. And so this faith came in my life and I got faith so that I could do things that were beyond my natural ability to do it.

4:34 Yes. And this mall was 33 acres. And I said, wow. Now, I thought at first I was hearing things. So I kind of ignored it. 33 acres. Excuse me, you guys. Yes. But at our previous location, God told me, buy that brown chicken. Yeah. And I didn't know what I was hearing. I don't eat that much chicken, you know, just buy that brown chicken. So I didn't know what to do. I said, well, I just left it and so forth. The next thing I know. The bronze chicken was being torn down and they put a huge luxury condo in that place.

5:19 So if nothing else, I could have flipped the property. You know what I mean? So when I heard this, I had been that route before. And I said, OK, this time I'm going to acknowledge that, buy that shopping mall. So what I did is I got some people, found out who owned it. And it was a. A teacher's union who owns it, and I said, are they willing to sell it? And I had a realtor go and ask them, and they said yes. And they were willing to sell it. Well, a number of things happened and so forth. You know, I was laughed at and all kinds of things. What is a preacher going to do with a mall and so forth and so on?

6:01 You see, no vision. And the enemy tries to keep us in that place so that we won't progress. And so I realized the power. to get wealth. And it took me some of God's ability to overcome the things that were coming in my mind, the money and all of that. And the next thing you know, we bought it and it is debt free. You know what? That's amazing. Debt free. Did you hear that? And the mall is debt free. Pastor, what I do like that you're actually bringing out and one thing that I heard while you were talking about this power is oftentimes the power also gives you the endowment. for what you don't understand.

6:44 Because did you know anything about buying a brown chicken? Did you know anything about buying them all? No, I didn't. So it's like almost like we allow the thing to become so big that we don't allow God a moment to step in and just guide us as to how he wants to do it or bring it to us. Somebody said, we're God's guides. He provides. That's good. And so I just noticed that if I just take a step, that God will help me. Stay in faith. I remember power steering, and I'm going to date myself now. Go ahead. But when I was young, my dad bought an Oldsmobile, 98. Oh, my goodness. And it was beautiful. So I got in it. But I noticed. That with the engine running, I could just put my finger on the steering wheel and turn it. But I noticed something else. When I took my finger off, it didn't turn. So I'm saying he gives you power to turn. It does turn, but it needs your agreement. It needs your permission so that you could do what God wants to do with you. Wow. And the other thing I found out that.

7:57 The idea of ideas and what God wants to do. The conditions of you talking about. New money does not come from old ideas. And I found that out. Get yourself some new ideas. God is forever creating. That's good. He's forever creating. And you look at something and you look at something half empty, but somebody else looks at something half full. And sometimes a really good. can come and he can actually see what that property can be like. Wow. And so I said, wow, what I'm going to do is I'm going to go ahead and get this and I'm going to believe God for it and use my faith and so forth. And after a number of iterations, we got them all. And now we're building some new things in it. And the newest idea that came to me is a new digital studio in a very large space that we have that is right now vacant.

9:00 Awesome. So I said, I'm going to do that. Another industry he's giving you. Another talent that you didn't even know you had. I didn't even know. Come on, talk about the story of the talents. He's not going to bury not one that God has given him. He's going to use them all. And I pray that each of you use yours as well. For those of you who are listening, I know you may hear a little bit in the background. There is some rain that's happening. But it reminds me of one of my favorite scripture where rather I've heard someone says that, you know, rain only matters when you have seed in the ground. So you appreciate the sound of rain when you know that you've sown and you have seed in the ground because you know that harvest will see you real soon. Dr. Winston, thinking of ownership, because I really want to go back to something that you mentioned. You talked about real estate. You talked about businesses.

9:50 We're talking about ownership, and I know in one of our segments we've covered stewardship as part of a kingdom assignment. Can you distinguish what's the difference? The world teaches ownership. We teach stewardship. What's the difference? Well, stewardship has more to do with a caretaker and somebody who is actually watching over the goods of someone else and making sure that it's handled properly. making sure you're making the right investments for them, stuff like that. You can have that in the business that you're in right now, stewarding somebody else's account, the wealth that they put up. Ownership has to do more with the fact that you are the ultimate authority in what happens with that. property with that investment and so forth. Ultimately, ownership is where you want to be, but stewardship is what you need. So I look at myself as an owner with stewardship responsibilities. Ultimately, like you purchase it, but God sits at the head.

11:02 No doubt about it. So I listen for him for the new ideas. Listen for him for... Like I said, things that I'd never thought of before and didn't have the power to think of. In other words, I didn't have the background. I didn't come to that kind of environment before. But that thought comes to me. Now, wherever God guides, he provides. So I can be assured that there's something he wants me to do that he's going to provide for. Now, where that's going to come from, I'm not sure right now. He may give me the money. Or he may give me a task to make the money. Yes.

11:42 And so that kind of thing. But I found it always works that way. And again, new money does not come from old ideas. Yes. It doesn't. So if you just got old ideas, put those aside and ask God for new ones because he gives you the power. They get wealth. You know, I like what you're talking about because one thing you're also bringing out, Dr. Winston, is as you're talking about stewarding, and I know as financial advisors, we tend to steward money for our clients who are many times new money. Right. So you're coming into a time where you're discovering something about wealth, how to create a legacy for yourself, creating an estate for generations to come that maybe you otherwise did not know. For you, God placed this on your heart as a vision for Joseph Wealth Management, because you saw the need that the church was missing this aspect. There were really no places that we could go where we could actually talk about investing. We could talk about money. We could talk about real estate or even business, but feel comfortable enough in an environment that spoke the same language that we speak to say, you know what? I'm going to give them a try. I'm going to step out in faith. I'm going to open an account. I'm going to deposit my money and then see what God will do for me. Can you talk about what did you see?

13:05 The Bible says that we are to leave an inheritance to our children's children. That means your grandkids. That means whatever you have, you ought to have enough for not only your children when you leave, but also your grandkids. And that is something that most church folk don't know much about. I'm not complaining in that, but I see that's part. of my duty is to have a company that can educate the body of Christ to that degree and also have them to invest in that gift they just learned. And so come up with some investment or real estate or whatever it might be. that you could leave something for your children's children. Now they don't have to start from scratch.

14:02 Yes. They can start from where you left off. Yes. And when we talk about church, we're not talking about a place. We're specifically talking about a people and not necessarily even segmenting us by denomination, whether it be Catholicism, Orthodox, Pentecostal, whatever, Baptist, but just talking about us collectively as one body. doing the will of our father as stewards in the earth to carry out what he wants to do in the earth. That stewardship responsibility takes money. Everywhere you go, you're going to see. It takes money. Repeat it again, Pastor. It takes money. It's going to take money. If you go to school, it's going to take money. If you're going to build a skill, it's going to take money. That's right. If you're going to build a neighborhood, it's going to take money. So everything seems to take money. The Bible says money answereth all things. So as you look at that, you're saying, okay, now I've got to have enough. to meet the needs of the cause or the people or whatever it is where I'm to be steward over. Yes. So I go the place. I feel like I want to help the people and so forth. So what do I do? I said, okay, let's start a program of teaching skills.

15:24 Yes. And so I'd look at what kind of skills I want to teach. Booker T. Washington, that's a school where I graduated, Tuskegee University. It was Tuskegee Normal and then Tuskegee University. Well, anyway, but Tuskegee. What happened was he believed his curriculum was to have people to have the regular studies of reading, writing, and arithmetic. have a skill or at least two skills that they could be graduated with because he knew they were going to have to have some money because most of them families were coming out of slavery. Yes. So if they didn't have the money, if they didn't have the money, they were going to get it, have to get it somewhere. And the best place they could get it. It's their own skill. People are poor not because they don't have enough money or a job that pays much. They're poor because of their own lack of self -production.

16:42 And they don't have the skills to produce something that is of value. that somebody else wants and wants to pay for. Yes. So Booker T. Washington was making sure that they had this. Yes. And back in, what, 1905, he graduated and put out in the workforce more self -made millionaires than Harvard, Yale, and Princeton combined. Amen. Now, that's supposed to be a statistical fact. Wow. Now, what am I saying? That's what it took. It took vision. So he would pick up a student. Let's say there were two boys coming around the house stark naked. And how did they get naked?

17:25 They had no money. They had nothing. And that was just after the Emancipation Proclamation. So now he picks them up. Why? Because he knows that every person, there's a gift. God made us like that. And he'd pick them up, then take them to Tuskegee. And teach them how to brush their teeth and the basics. And now training them up, giving them the skills, mathematics, so forth and so on. And they'd go ahead and graduate. And now they make something out of their lives. And I mean, he's got stories and stories of what he's done. But what he zeroed in on is a fact.

18:07 That they had value. That inside of them was a gift. And that gift was designed to make room for them and bring them before great men. That's amazing. Because he read that in the Bible. That's amazing. You know, Dr. Winston, as you're talking, it sounds as though almost as if you're picking up the mantle. Because a lot of things that what you do here, talking about the 20 plus businesses that you have, is you're all about making sure that we all have some type of skill. And even with what we're doing here right now with this segment of faith and finance, Joseph Wealth Management is also offering an educational series that we're offering to our clients where you can develop a skill, learn something about money, learn about investing, learn about how to trade the stock market. Understanding why it's important, because in our current economic climate, as we look over things, there's tariffs. Taxes are increases.

18:56 We have big, beautiful bills that our president has just put in place. But as you stated earlier, it all takes money. It takes money. It all takes money. And then when a people is not prepared, then ultimately you depend on the system that you should be ultimately trying to take care of. We were meant to be in the driver's seat that we take care of God's people. And also there's much food in the tillage of the poor. And saying that. What does that mean? Today, well, it's saying that the poverty is not so much a physical poverty as it's a mental. It's a mental poverty. Being able to see opportunity and so forth like that. And here's, for example. This young black man, African -American, I think he's in New York.

19:46 He was coming up in grade school, but his parents were well off. They were kind of poor. But what he did, he got online and looked online, and there were free courses on how to play the cello. And so he looked at him and then the news media caught up with him. And by that time, he had gotten a scholarship to Juilliard. Yes. Because he was looking online, found free courses of how to play the cello and had gotten that good. Wow. So he played before an orchestra in New York. People can do that with invested. Yes.

20:30 They can get online. You can find anything online now. It doesn't make any difference. There's so many free courses. Build your skills from an online course of something and that. But invest in yourself first and then invest in the other things. So that's good for me. I mean, I was in college and, you know. In college, everybody, well, for the most part, a lot of people, doesn't have much money. But I thought of things. I said, wait a second. I'm not going to come to college here and be poor and have no money like a lot of people around me. I said, okay, I can do something.

21:18 Well, I could play the keyboard because my dad taught me when I was young. Yes. Well, I could play tennis. And I had a friend of mine to teach me tennis. And so I got on the tennis team and got a half scholarship. And I said, well, I get, you know, this and that. And the next thing I know, I was having three incomes, you see. And I was traveling with the music group I put together from New York to Nassau during my time. a break in school and so forth. So by the time I graduated, I was on my second Corvette. I mean, you don't need to be poor. No one needs to be poor. He's given everyone a gift. All you have to do is invest in yourself. Yes. That's all. And let me tell you, you'll always come out good. Investing, that's key. But there's much food in the tillage of the poor. That's excellent, Dr. Winston. You know, as I'm really thinking about this, if there is anything I really want to allow you to flow, because there's so much that you've just said that we could truly unpack in that moment. Talking about poverty is truly a state of mind, whereas broke is a physical condition. So you're not broke. It's just the mindset. How do we shift the mindset that you see investing? Not, but I like what you said. Don't think about it as

22:49 investing as if like you're doing it for someone else. You're investing in yourself. Steward of your own self. Be a steward of your own destiny. Investing for your family, investing for your future, investing for the legacy that is to come. Dr. Winston, is there anything else you would like to leave with our audience? I mean, you've covered everything from vision to identity. And then I do want to say this one thing that you did say. You said that ultimately. He who makes the Bible talks about also that if you're faithful over little things, he'll make you rule over much. You said in college you had three incomes. Now you own over 20 businesses. You went from three streams to 20 plus streams of income. All because you were willing to be obedient first to the voice of God. Do what he said and then believe that provision would come with it. And they did. That's amazing. Poor because of not because no money or a job that doesn't pay much, but because of the absence of self -production.

24:00 Everybody, if you're listening today, it is time for you to step out in faith. It's time for you to be that producer. Cooking cakes, pies, starting a business, writing a book, buying that piece of real estate, buying that shopping mall that's in your city, buying that real estate complex. It's time for us as the church, meaning not just a denomination, but us as people of God who understand the kingdom assignment to get in alignment where God can now use us so that we can become stewards of wealth. Because there are people who we need to touch. There are families that we need to save. And there are times that are coming. that people are going to be looking for the voice of God. They're going to be looking for people of God and places that they can come to to see the light of God. And so, Dr. Winston, thank you again. I want to thank you so much for taking the time. It's a pleasure that we can literally have someone like yourself, as esteemed as you are, 20 plus billion businesses, multimillionaire, who's willing and whose heart has always been for the people and continues to still be for the people. I just want to make mention of a couple of things. Dr. Winston, you started Operation 10 Cities, where we have gone to about seven different cities thus far. And ultimately, can you just talk a little bit about what Operation 10 Cities was? new book that's coming out, Seeding for the Billion Flood. Manifesting the Billion Flood. Okay. Well, the Ten Cities is a vision God gave me to actually bring hope to the cities.

25:33 You know, without hope, people do strange things. I mean, careless things. And to bring hope to the cities. Perhaps to establish in each one of the cities a center of hope. Take some of the pastors and so forth and let them catch the vision of taking one of the worst neighborhoods and turning it around and making it a Garden of Eden. So these kind of things. And also we have people, billionaires, give us clothing. And we make big distributions in these cities as well for adults and children. Have teenage, a portion of the 10 cities where the teens meet and they get inspired with. The youthpreneur, teaching them entrepreneurship. Entrepreneurship and so forth. So that's the. Operation 10 Cities, and we want to take it to 10 cities and establish that same thing in these 10 cities and get people started. Sometimes we feel that if we could just light the fire, light the fuse, and get people started, that some of the churches in these cities will pick up that mantle and run with it. So that's where we are with that. And tell us about the book. And the book. Now, this book. is going to be probably the most profound book I've ever written, and I've written quite a few of them.

27:01 But this has to do with manifesting the billion flow. When I was taught seeding the billion flow, we had a speaker that come here, and she said that God doesn't want us only to be millionaires. But God says, why not shoot for billionaires? See, what she was saying is not for it to be for yourself, but how much more could you do if you had that to work with? I picked up on that and a couple other people like Peter Daniels who came in. He taught about money again. And he said, we sing about faith and talk about faith and write about faith. But how many of God's people are walking about faith? That's good.

27:53 So he said, so I took that and I had an idea of the billion flow, meaning the billions are flowing in to God's people now. And so I wrote this book, and it happened that I preached Seeding for the Billion Flow in Tulsa one time. Once I preached that, a pastor called me the next Monday, and he said, I have a friend that heard you preach that at the auditorium, and he wants to know, can he come see you? He's a billionaire. Wow. I said, well, yeah, you can come see me.

28:34 I preached on seeding for the billion flow. So then he flew up and came and I found out quite a bit about him. He's sending, he rented something like 22 747s to take his whole staff to Disney World or something like that. But he was doing great things. And he just asked me one question. How did you get this sermon? And I said, I don't know, except God gave it to me. And that's what I'm talking about. Power to get wealth. That God can actually speak to your mind about something that's much bigger than anything you could ever think of. And not only that, give you the. the ability to carry it out. Excellent. And so that's what we're doing now is called Manifesting a Billion Flow. Look for it. Amen. Can we pre -order the book? Yes, you can. Excellent. We're going to open it up. for pre -ordering in about two weeks. Amen. And you can get that book. So excellent.

29:43 I want you guys, if you haven't done so already, you'll see the book is actually displayed here on our screen. Be sure to pre -order that book, Manifesting the Billion Flow, where Dr. Winston is going to actually open up your mind to tell you, well, really to really talk about those skills that we talked about earlier in the segment that God has placed on the inside of us, gifts, talents, and skills that ultimately take us to that billion flow area. So if you feel as though you're waiting on God or feel Feeling as though you're stagnant where you are. There is hope. Read this book. I know I'm going to order my copy. I'll be sure to make sure that you order your copy. Dr. Winston knows I read just about everything he does. But I just want to thank all of you for tuning in today to another segment of Faith and Finance. And we look forward to seeing you all next time. Thank you for coming.

30:27 God bless. Thank you for joining us today. Remember, Joseph Wealth Management is a full service wealth management company. We are here to help you build your storehouses and your wealth strategy. Visit josephwealthmanagement .com to schedule your private consultation or call us at 800 -807 -2881. Whether you're building from scratch or multiplying your mission, we are here to walk with you. Let's build legacy and let's do it by faith. For today's faith segment, Joseph went from the prison to the palace in one day. But his mindset was already prepared. Why? Because God trained him in stewarding long before he gave him dominion. When Pharaoh gave Joseph authority, Joseph didn't just spend, he stored. He didn't just rule, he managed. For seven years, he created a national savings plan.

31:28 And when crisis came, Egypt had surplus. While others were panicking, Joseph was positioned. And here's the key. Joseph didn't hoard the wealth. He multiplied it. He exchanged grain for land, managed national infrastructure, and turned economic tragedy into generational transformation. That's kingdom. Because in the kingdom, ownership isn't about control. It's about impact. We are not called to simply accumulate. We're called to administer heaven's resources with excellence. True ownership begins with stewardship. The better you manage what's in your hands, the more God will trust you to multiply it. Your next promotion isn't based on hustle. It's based on how you handle what you have already been given. The Faith and Finance podcast is intended for educational, informational, and entertainment purposes only.

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