July 27, 2026
The $15 Million Question
The estate tax cliff everyone braced for never happened — Congress made the higher exemption permanent instead, raising it to $15 million per person ($30 million per couple). In this episode, host Geil Thompson breaks down what actually changed, why "permanent" doesn't mean your existing estate plan is still current, and what Proverbs 13:22 has to say about planning wealth two generations ahead. General education only — not personalized investment, tax, or legal advice.
Whether you're just starting or scaling, Joseph Wealth Management can help. Book your consultation at JosephWealthManagement.com or call 800-807-2881.
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For years, every estate attorney in the country
00:00:08.960 --> 00:00:12.259
was telling wealthy clients the same urgent thing.
00:00:12.839 --> 00:00:16.219
Use your exemption before it gets cut in half
00:00:16.219 --> 00:00:21.219
at the end of 2025. Well, that cliff never happened.
00:00:21.460 --> 00:00:24.280
Congress permanently reset the number instead,
00:00:24.440 --> 00:00:28.420
higher than it was ever before. If your estate
00:00:28.420 --> 00:00:31.780
plan was built around the old deadline, it may
00:00:31.780 --> 00:00:35.299
already be outdated and you might not know it.
00:00:35.600 --> 00:00:39.020
I'm your host, Geil Thompson, and this is Faith
00:00:39.020 --> 00:00:42.500
in Finance. So here's the background, because
00:00:42.500 --> 00:00:46.340
the why matters as much as the number. Since
00:00:46.340 --> 00:00:50.439
2017, the federal estate and gift tax exemption,
00:00:50.780 --> 00:00:53.939
which is the amount you can pass on tax -free
00:00:53.939 --> 00:00:58.259
during life or at death, had been temporarily
00:00:58.259 --> 00:01:04.239
doubled. By 2025, it sat at just under $15 million
00:01:04.239 --> 00:01:08.959
per person, but that increase was always scheduled
00:01:08.959 --> 00:01:13.560
to expire at the end of 2025, reverting back
00:01:13.560 --> 00:01:17.900
to roughly $7 million per person. For years,
00:01:17.939 --> 00:01:22.299
that looming cliff drove a rush of last -minute
00:01:22.299 --> 00:01:25.459
gifting and trust funding because nobody wanted
00:01:25.459 --> 00:01:29.760
to lose access to the higher number. Then, in
00:01:29.760 --> 00:01:34.780
July of 2025, Congress passed the One Big Beautiful
00:01:34.780 --> 00:01:38.519
Bill Act. And it didn't just extend the higher
00:01:38.519 --> 00:01:41.799
exemption, it made it permanent and raised it
00:01:41.799 --> 00:01:46.980
further to $15 million per individual. Yes, you
00:01:46.980 --> 00:01:51.299
heard it right. $15 million per individual and
00:01:51.299 --> 00:01:55.920
$30 million for a married couple using portability.
00:01:56.560 --> 00:02:01.000
Starting in 2027, that number adjusts upward
00:02:01.000 --> 00:02:04.900
every year for inflation. There's no scheduled
00:02:04.900 --> 00:02:08.620
sunset this time. A few details worth knowing
00:02:08.620 --> 00:02:12.409
precisely. The generation skipping transfer exemption,
00:02:12.729 --> 00:02:15.729
the one relevant to leaving assets directly to
00:02:15.729 --> 00:02:19.530
grandchildren or a dynasty trust, almost moved
00:02:19.530 --> 00:02:24.530
the $15 million. But unlike the estate exemption,
00:02:24.949 --> 00:02:29.389
it is not portable between spouses, meaning each
00:02:29.389 --> 00:02:33.889
spouse needs their own planning to use it. And
00:02:33.889 --> 00:02:38.370
portability itself, a surviving spouse's ability
00:02:38.370 --> 00:02:41.569
to use a deceased spouse's unused exemption,
00:02:41.789 --> 00:02:46.310
still requires filing an estate tax return within
00:02:46.310 --> 00:02:49.689
nine months of death, even when no tax is owed.
00:02:50.810 --> 00:02:54.530
Missing that filing has, in real cases, caused
00:02:54.530 --> 00:02:58.150
families access to millions in exemption they
00:02:58.150 --> 00:03:02.789
were otherwise entitled to receive. So why permanent
00:03:02.789 --> 00:03:07.229
doesn't mean nothing to do? Here's where I want
00:03:07.229 --> 00:03:10.490
to push back on the natural reaction to this
00:03:10.490 --> 00:03:14.930
news, which is relief followed by doing nothing,
00:03:15.030 --> 00:03:17.469
which is what most families do. And we can't
00:03:17.469 --> 00:03:22.650
do that. First, several states still impose their
00:03:22.650 --> 00:03:26.669
own estate or inheritance tax, often at exemption
00:03:26.669 --> 00:03:30.300
levels far below the federal number. New York
00:03:30.300 --> 00:03:33.800
is a clear example. Its exemption sits around
00:03:33.800 --> 00:03:38.419
$7 million and it has what's called a cliff if
00:03:38.419 --> 00:03:41.780
your taxable estate exceeds that threshold by
00:03:41.780 --> 00:03:45.659
more than 5%. You don't just owe tax on the amount
00:03:45.659 --> 00:03:48.460
over the line. You lose the exemption entirely
00:03:48.460 --> 00:03:52.039
and owe tax on the whole estate for the first
00:03:52.039 --> 00:03:55.810
dollar. For families in states like that, The
00:03:55.810 --> 00:03:58.110
federal relief doesn't eliminate the planning
00:03:58.110 --> 00:04:01.289
conversation. It just shifts where the real risk
00:04:01.289 --> 00:04:06.289
sits. Second, and this is the part that gets
00:04:06.289 --> 00:04:09.310
missed. The biggest advantage of gifting now
00:04:09.310 --> 00:04:12.789
isn't just using the exemption before some deadline.
00:04:13.090 --> 00:04:17.009
It's moving future growth out of your taxable
00:04:17.009 --> 00:04:21.810
estate and asset given today. keeps appreciating
00:04:21.810 --> 00:04:24.689
in the hand of whoever receives it outside your
00:04:24.689 --> 00:04:27.589
estate for the rest of your life. Something worth
00:04:27.589 --> 00:04:30.470
$15 million today growing at a reasonable rate
00:04:30.470 --> 00:04:33.389
can be worth well over double that in a decade.
00:04:33.810 --> 00:04:37.209
If it stays in your estate, that entire growth
00:04:37.209 --> 00:04:40.889
is potentially subject to estate tax later. If
00:04:40.889 --> 00:04:43.569
it is already transferred, that growth happens
00:04:43.569 --> 00:04:48.850
completely outside the calculation. Third, if
00:04:48.850 --> 00:04:51.980
your estate plan, your trust structures, your
00:04:51.980 --> 00:04:54.720
gifting strategy, your beneficiary designation
00:04:54.720 --> 00:04:58.660
was drafted assuming the old cliff, it was built
00:04:58.660 --> 00:05:01.600
around a temporary law that no longer exists.
00:05:01.639 --> 00:05:05.379
So I need you to be aware of that. Plans built
00:05:05.379 --> 00:05:08.959
for scarcity don't automatically make sense in
00:05:08.959 --> 00:05:13.199
a world of permanence. Some structures Like certain
00:05:13.199 --> 00:05:17.220
valuation discount strategies can actually backfire
00:05:17.220 --> 00:05:20.379
under the new rule by unnecessarily lowering
00:05:20.379 --> 00:05:25.879
the cost basis your heirs received. Listen, none
00:05:25.879 --> 00:05:29.019
of this requires panic. It requires an actual
00:05:29.019 --> 00:05:32.420
review, not an assumption that permanent means
00:05:32.420 --> 00:05:36.720
finished, okay? Now, what does scripture already
00:05:36.720 --> 00:05:39.699
say about this? There's a proverb that speaks
00:05:39.699 --> 00:05:43.259
exactly to this kind of planning and it's more
00:05:43.259 --> 00:05:45.779
direct than people usually give it credit for.
00:05:45.860 --> 00:05:49.079
And that's Proverbs chapter 13 that says a good
00:05:49.079 --> 00:05:52.040
person leaves an inheritance to their children's
00:05:52.040 --> 00:05:55.560
children, not just to their own children, but
00:05:55.560 --> 00:05:59.500
to two generations forward. Now read quickly,
00:05:59.779 --> 00:06:03.079
that can sound like a nice sentiment about being
00:06:03.079 --> 00:06:06.009
generous. But read carefully, it's actually a
00:06:06.009 --> 00:06:08.709
statement about foresight. Leaving something
00:06:08.709 --> 00:06:11.189
to your children's children isn't accidental.
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It requires thinking and planning in a longer
00:06:14.829 --> 00:06:19.370
time horizon than your own lifetime. And arranging
00:06:19.370 --> 00:06:23.769
things now so that the benefit actually reaches
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people you may never meet. is what we're talking
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about that's a precisely what a generational
00:06:32.300 --> 00:06:36.100
skip trust does in modern estate planning not
00:06:36.100 --> 00:06:39.220
by coincidence but because the underlining wisdom
00:06:39.220 --> 00:06:42.100
is the same it's not simply leave money behind
00:06:42.100 --> 00:06:45.040
it's planned intentionally enough that what you've
00:06:45.040 --> 00:06:48.639
built keeps compounding benefit for people two
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generations out here's how i'd apply it directly
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to this moment A permanent historical high exemption
00:06:56.519 --> 00:06:59.360
doesn't do the work directly in that proverb
00:06:59.360 --> 00:07:03.420
by itself. It does remove an obstacle. The actual
00:07:03.420 --> 00:07:05.379
leaving of an inheritance structure intentional
00:07:05.379 --> 00:07:08.980
reaching two generations forward still requires
00:07:08.980 --> 00:07:13.199
the same thing. It always has a plan reviewed
00:07:13.199 --> 00:07:16.639
and updated built by someone thinking further
00:07:16.639 --> 00:07:20.720
ahead than their own lifetime. The cliff everyone
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seared seared. didn't happen that's genuinely
00:07:24.550 --> 00:07:28.410
good news but good news about the law was never
00:07:28.410 --> 00:07:32.529
a substitute for an actual plan and the oldest
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wisdom on this subject has always said the same
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thing what reaches your children's children got
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there because someone planned for it too If you're
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ready to begin your investment journey, call
00:07:44.019 --> 00:07:48.120
Joseph Wealth Management at 800 -807 -2881 or
00:07:48.120 --> 00:07:51.439
email us at info at josephwealthmanagement .com.
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If you have a question for Faith and Finance,
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call that same number and ask to be transferred
00:07:56.920 --> 00:07:59.959
to our voicemail system. Tell us your name and
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the city and state you're calling from. Who knows,
00:08:03.300 --> 00:08:05.319
your question might be featured on an upcoming
00:08:05.319 --> 00:08:08.459
episode. Thank you for listening to Faith and
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Finance. Have a great day. The Faith and Finance
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podcast is intended for educational, informational,
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and entertainment purposes only. The views and
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opinions expressed by the hosts and guests are
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their own and do not necessarily reflect those
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of Joseph Wealth Management, Joseph Eden Capital,
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or any affiliated entity. Nothing shared on this
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podcast should be construed as personalized,
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financial, legal, tax, or investment advice.
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All investing carries risk, including the potential
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loss of principal. Listeners are strongly encouraged
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to consult with a licensed financial advisor
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or fiduciary who understands their unique circumstances
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before making any financial decisions. Joseph
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Wealth Management and Joseph Eden Capital are
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registered entities and operate in accordance
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with applicable regulatory guidelines. Business
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is conducted only in jurisdictions where they
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are duly licensed or exempt from registration.
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For years, every estate attorney in the country
00:00:08.960 --> 00:00:12.259
was telling wealthy clients the same urgent thing.
00:00:12.839 --> 00:00:16.219
Use your exemption before it gets cut in half
00:00:16.219 --> 00:00:21.219
at the end of 2025. Well, that cliff never happened.
00:00:21.460 --> 00:00:24.280
Congress permanently reset the number instead,
00:00:24.440 --> 00:00:28.420
higher than it was ever before. If your estate
00:00:28.420 --> 00:00:31.780
plan was built around the old deadline, it may
00:00:31.780 --> 00:00:35.299
already be outdated and you might not know it.
00:00:35.600 --> 00:00:39.020
I'm your host, Geil Thompson, and this is Faith
00:00:39.020 --> 00:00:42.500
in Finance. So here's the background, because
00:00:42.500 --> 00:00:46.340
the why matters as much as the number. Since
00:00:46.340 --> 00:00:50.439
2017, the federal estate and gift tax exemption,
00:00:50.780 --> 00:00:53.939
which is the amount you can pass on tax -free
00:00:53.939 --> 00:00:58.259
during life or at death, had been temporarily
00:00:58.259 --> 00:01:04.239
doubled. By 2025, it sat at just under $15 million
00:01:04.239 --> 00:01:08.959
per person, but that increase was always scheduled
00:01:08.959 --> 00:01:13.560
to expire at the end of 2025, reverting back
00:01:13.560 --> 00:01:17.900
to roughly $7 million per person. For years,
00:01:17.939 --> 00:01:22.299
that looming cliff drove a rush of last -minute
00:01:22.299 --> 00:01:25.459
gifting and trust funding because nobody wanted
00:01:25.459 --> 00:01:29.760
to lose access to the higher number. Then, in
00:01:29.760 --> 00:01:34.780
July of 2025, Congress passed the One Big Beautiful
00:01:34.780 --> 00:01:38.519
Bill Act. And it didn't just extend the higher
00:01:38.519 --> 00:01:41.799
exemption, it made it permanent and raised it
00:01:41.799 --> 00:01:46.980
further to $15 million per individual. Yes, you
00:01:46.980 --> 00:01:51.299
heard it right. $15 million per individual and
00:01:51.299 --> 00:01:55.920
$30 million for a married couple using portability.
00:01:56.560 --> 00:02:01.000
Starting in 2027, that number adjusts upward
00:02:01.000 --> 00:02:04.900
every year for inflation. There's no scheduled
00:02:04.900 --> 00:02:08.620
sunset this time. A few details worth knowing
00:02:08.620 --> 00:02:12.409
precisely. The generation skipping transfer exemption,
00:02:12.729 --> 00:02:15.729
the one relevant to leaving assets directly to
00:02:15.729 --> 00:02:19.530
grandchildren or a dynasty trust, almost moved
00:02:19.530 --> 00:02:24.530
the $15 million. But unlike the estate exemption,
00:02:24.949 --> 00:02:29.389
it is not portable between spouses, meaning each
00:02:29.389 --> 00:02:33.889
spouse needs their own planning to use it. And
00:02:33.889 --> 00:02:38.370
portability itself, a surviving spouse's ability
00:02:38.370 --> 00:02:41.569
to use a deceased spouse's unused exemption,
00:02:41.789 --> 00:02:46.310
still requires filing an estate tax return within
00:02:46.310 --> 00:02:49.689
nine months of death, even when no tax is owed.
00:02:50.810 --> 00:02:54.530
Missing that filing has, in real cases, caused
00:02:54.530 --> 00:02:58.150
families access to millions in exemption they
00:02:58.150 --> 00:03:02.789
were otherwise entitled to receive. So why permanent
00:03:02.789 --> 00:03:07.229
doesn't mean nothing to do? Here's where I want
00:03:07.229 --> 00:03:10.490
to push back on the natural reaction to this
00:03:10.490 --> 00:03:14.930
news, which is relief followed by doing nothing,
00:03:15.030 --> 00:03:17.469
which is what most families do. And we can't
00:03:17.469 --> 00:03:22.650
do that. First, several states still impose their
00:03:22.650 --> 00:03:26.669
own estate or inheritance tax, often at exemption
00:03:26.669 --> 00:03:30.300
levels far below the federal number. New York
00:03:30.300 --> 00:03:33.800
is a clear example. Its exemption sits around
00:03:33.800 --> 00:03:38.419
$7 million and it has what's called a cliff if
00:03:38.419 --> 00:03:41.780
your taxable estate exceeds that threshold by
00:03:41.780 --> 00:03:45.659
more than 5%. You don't just owe tax on the amount
00:03:45.659 --> 00:03:48.460
over the line. You lose the exemption entirely
00:03:48.460 --> 00:03:52.039
and owe tax on the whole estate for the first
00:03:52.039 --> 00:03:55.810
dollar. For families in states like that, The
00:03:55.810 --> 00:03:58.110
federal relief doesn't eliminate the planning
00:03:58.110 --> 00:04:01.289
conversation. It just shifts where the real risk
00:04:01.289 --> 00:04:06.289
sits. Second, and this is the part that gets
00:04:06.289 --> 00:04:09.310
missed. The biggest advantage of gifting now
00:04:09.310 --> 00:04:12.789
isn't just using the exemption before some deadline.
00:04:13.090 --> 00:04:17.009
It's moving future growth out of your taxable
00:04:17.009 --> 00:04:21.810
estate and asset given today. keeps appreciating
00:04:21.810 --> 00:04:24.689
in the hand of whoever receives it outside your
00:04:24.689 --> 00:04:27.589
estate for the rest of your life. Something worth
00:04:27.589 --> 00:04:30.470
$15 million today growing at a reasonable rate
00:04:30.470 --> 00:04:33.389
can be worth well over double that in a decade.
00:04:33.810 --> 00:04:37.209
If it stays in your estate, that entire growth
00:04:37.209 --> 00:04:40.889
is potentially subject to estate tax later. If
00:04:40.889 --> 00:04:43.569
it is already transferred, that growth happens
00:04:43.569 --> 00:04:48.850
completely outside the calculation. Third, if
00:04:48.850 --> 00:04:51.980
your estate plan, your trust structures, your
00:04:51.980 --> 00:04:54.720
gifting strategy, your beneficiary designation
00:04:54.720 --> 00:04:58.660
was drafted assuming the old cliff, it was built
00:04:58.660 --> 00:05:01.600
around a temporary law that no longer exists.
00:05:01.639 --> 00:05:05.379
So I need you to be aware of that. Plans built
00:05:05.379 --> 00:05:08.959
for scarcity don't automatically make sense in
00:05:08.959 --> 00:05:13.199
a world of permanence. Some structures Like certain
00:05:13.199 --> 00:05:17.220
valuation discount strategies can actually backfire
00:05:17.220 --> 00:05:20.379
under the new rule by unnecessarily lowering
00:05:20.379 --> 00:05:25.879
the cost basis your heirs received. Listen, none
00:05:25.879 --> 00:05:29.019
of this requires panic. It requires an actual
00:05:29.019 --> 00:05:32.420
review, not an assumption that permanent means
00:05:32.420 --> 00:05:36.720
finished, okay? Now, what does scripture already
00:05:36.720 --> 00:05:39.699
say about this? There's a proverb that speaks
00:05:39.699 --> 00:05:43.259
exactly to this kind of planning and it's more
00:05:43.259 --> 00:05:45.779
direct than people usually give it credit for.
00:05:45.860 --> 00:05:49.079
And that's Proverbs chapter 13 that says a good
00:05:49.079 --> 00:05:52.040
person leaves an inheritance to their children's
00:05:52.040 --> 00:05:55.560
children, not just to their own children, but
00:05:55.560 --> 00:05:59.500
to two generations forward. Now read quickly,
00:05:59.779 --> 00:06:03.079
that can sound like a nice sentiment about being
00:06:03.079 --> 00:06:06.009
generous. But read carefully, it's actually a
00:06:06.009 --> 00:06:08.709
statement about foresight. Leaving something
00:06:08.709 --> 00:06:11.189
to your children's children isn't accidental.
00:06:11.589 --> 00:06:14.829
It requires thinking and planning in a longer
00:06:14.829 --> 00:06:19.370
time horizon than your own lifetime. And arranging
00:06:19.370 --> 00:06:23.769
things now so that the benefit actually reaches
00:06:23.769 --> 00:06:29.000
people you may never meet. is what we're talking
00:06:29.000 --> 00:06:32.300
about that's a precisely what a generational
00:06:32.300 --> 00:06:36.100
skip trust does in modern estate planning not
00:06:36.100 --> 00:06:39.220
by coincidence but because the underlining wisdom
00:06:39.220 --> 00:06:42.100
is the same it's not simply leave money behind
00:06:42.100 --> 00:06:45.040
it's planned intentionally enough that what you've
00:06:45.040 --> 00:06:48.639
built keeps compounding benefit for people two
00:06:48.639 --> 00:06:52.899
generations out here's how i'd apply it directly
00:06:52.899 --> 00:06:56.519
to this moment A permanent historical high exemption
00:06:56.519 --> 00:06:59.360
doesn't do the work directly in that proverb
00:06:59.360 --> 00:07:03.420
by itself. It does remove an obstacle. The actual
00:07:03.420 --> 00:07:05.379
leaving of an inheritance structure intentional
00:07:05.379 --> 00:07:08.980
reaching two generations forward still requires
00:07:08.980 --> 00:07:13.199
the same thing. It always has a plan reviewed
00:07:13.199 --> 00:07:16.639
and updated built by someone thinking further
00:07:16.639 --> 00:07:20.720
ahead than their own lifetime. The cliff everyone
00:07:20.720 --> 00:07:24.550
seared seared. didn't happen that's genuinely
00:07:24.550 --> 00:07:28.410
good news but good news about the law was never
00:07:28.410 --> 00:07:32.529
a substitute for an actual plan and the oldest
00:07:32.529 --> 00:07:35.449
wisdom on this subject has always said the same
00:07:35.449 --> 00:07:38.430
thing what reaches your children's children got
00:07:38.430 --> 00:07:42.000
there because someone planned for it too If you're
00:07:42.000 --> 00:07:44.019
ready to begin your investment journey, call
00:07:44.019 --> 00:07:48.120
Joseph Wealth Management at 800 -807 -2881 or
00:07:48.120 --> 00:07:51.439
email us at info at josephwealthmanagement .com.
00:07:51.680 --> 00:07:53.939
If you have a question for Faith and Finance,
00:07:54.199 --> 00:07:56.920
call that same number and ask to be transferred
00:07:56.920 --> 00:07:59.959
to our voicemail system. Tell us your name and
00:07:59.959 --> 00:08:03.060
the city and state you're calling from. Who knows,
00:08:03.300 --> 00:08:05.319
your question might be featured on an upcoming
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episode. Thank you for listening to Faith and
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Finance. Have a great day. The Faith and Finance
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opinions expressed by the hosts and guests are
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their own and do not necessarily reflect those
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of Joseph Wealth Management, Joseph Eden Capital,
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or any affiliated entity. Nothing shared on this
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podcast should be construed as personalized,
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financial, legal, tax, or investment advice.
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All investing carries risk, including the potential
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loss of principal. Listeners are strongly encouraged
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to consult with a licensed financial advisor
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or fiduciary who understands their unique circumstances
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before making any financial decisions. Joseph
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Wealth Management and Joseph Eden Capital are
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registered entities and operate in accordance
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with applicable regulatory guidelines. Business
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is conducted only in jurisdictions where they
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are duly licensed or exempt from registration.