40 Days Through the Prayers of Jesus with Tim Cameron (Season 5, Ep. 33)

40 Days Through the Prayers of Jesus with Tim Cameron (Season 5, Ep. 33)

What does Jesus's prayer life teach us about prayer? To listen to and have an intimate relationship with the Father.

Author Tim Cameron shares his personal journey with chronic pain and how it lead him to go deeper in prayer. In his new book, "40 Days Through the Prayers of Jesus," he teaches you to really focus on how Jesus prayed. Listen to learn more and hear Tim discuss the difference between intercession and prayer.

35 Minutes • 4 months ago

Episode Notes

Greenelines with

Dr. Steve Greene

Guest: Tim Cameron

 

 

Author Tim Cameron says there are two great hindrances to prayer for believers: They’re either too busy to pray or pray effectively, and/or they are too worldly.

 

That may be a bit much for many Christians to swallow, but think about it. Busyness, Cameron says, “steals our time to pray and worldliness takes away our will to pray. A person who's too busy to pray is just too busy lead a godly life. A person who's too worldly has given his will to the world.”

 

Cameron’s book 40 Days Through the Prayers of Jesus (Charisma House, 2017) is a journey to pray more like Christ. As Cameron explains it to Grenelines podcast host Dr. Steve Greene, it is a journey that will help believers make better decisions.

 

For the rest of Dr. Greene’s interview with Tim Cameron, visit cpnshows.com.

 

Introduction

Dr. Steve Greene: Most of us go through life making decisions. We make decisions every day; small ones, medium ones, great big ones. We come to forks in the road and we have to decide which turn to take or whether or not keep going straight. Many decisions are impacted by various types of biases. The most common bias is confirmation bias where we do what we think we should do, and then we confirm it was right because we thought it would be right without maybe even considering whether or not there was some facts affecting it, or worse than that, whether or not there was a spiritual draw perhaps by the Holy Spirit to take us in a little bit different direction than we thought we should be going. Our biases really show in decision making. As a decision-making teacher, I've taught science classes in the in the problematic games of decision making, like in science, and apply that probability theory to help us make a decision based on science. None of that really works when it comes down to it, if it's not the way of the Lord. So I believe that our guest today will get some good insight to us on how to make better decisions. He does in a way that is different and unique. You would call this a book about prayer. I like to call it a book to help me in my decision making. There are four to 10 books that I would assign to my students in decision-making classes and not one of them really included prayer. I wish I would have had this book. It was all about the science of decision making. I hope that by the time we finish this podcast today that you come to a place where you realize that decision making must be bathed with prayer. I set a goal at the beginning of this year to pray first and to pray fast. So, in other words, when someone says I need you to pray for me, I want to stop everything and do that prayer. When I come to a fork in the road, I want to pray fast and I want to pray before I ever decide. Think of the problems that would get us out of if we could get to the place where we bathe every decision in prayer. My guest today is going to help us with that a lot. I can't wait to speak with him. He's a good friend of ours at Charisma. He's written great books. We love him. He's written a book on fasting with our vocabulary. In other words, speaking less. I had the privilege of interviewing him about that book and I read it again after the interview. I still have it on my re-read shelf because I like it so much. So, welcome Tim Cameron to the podcast.

 

So, your book is 40 Days Through the Prayers of Jesus a journey to pray more like Christ. Do you agree with my assessment that this will help us to make better decisions?

 

Tim Cameron: Absolutely. It’s one of the things you'll see almost as soon as you start looking at Jesus's life, if he prayed about everything, every decision.

 

Tim Cameron on Charisma

·         How to Know Whether You Have a Pride Problem

·         Before You Pray for Anything, Do This

·         Your Spiritual Life Depends on This Crucial Discipline

·         Spiritual Habits Form in the New Year

 

Dr. Steve Greene: He did, and he came up with the right conclusions even though he probably saw the answer before he even prayed. I feel like I get to that place where sometimes I know how this is going to go. I'm a businessman, I know when I've seen before and that's when we get those biases working and we start thinking we've got the answer. So, we don't slow down enough to pray.

 

Tim Cameron: Well you really hit on a on a key factor, that we don't slow down enough to pray. I like to say that there's two great hindrances to prayer; one we're too busy and the other one we’re too worldly. Busyness steals our time to pray and worldliness takes away our will to pray. A person who's too busy to pray is just too busy lead a godly life. A person who's too worldly has given his will to the world.

 

Dr. Steve Greene: So, you've turned this into a sort of a devotional book, correct? You could break it down into 40 days of prayer.

 

Tim Cameron: Yes. Let me give you a little backdrop first of how this came about. My journey to write this book was really a personal journey of a really dramatic chronic pain that I’ve had for about five years. I was in and out of the wheelchair and in bad and had a number of major surgeries. I had two knee replacements and back surgery. I got so messed up on painkillers and other things and pain that I just had to quit working right in the middle of my most productive years of my working career. I had to quit working. I actually almost died a couple times and overdoses. I remember the promise I made myself as a young Christian man at ORU in my early 20s when I came to the Lord, that I was not going to enter the kingdom of heaven without knowing what it meant to pray and seek God’s answers, for him to answer my prayers to bring down blessing upon other people. So it’s in that backdrop that I just dove into the Lord and said, Lord, I need You to reveal to me what it means to pray and how to see your prayers answered.

 

Tim Cameron Books

·         40 Days Through the Prayers of Jesus (Charisma House, 2017)

·         The Forty-Day Word Fast (Charisma House, 2015)

 

Dr. Steve Greene: I begin every morning with a with a prayer devotional book there's so many written. There are probably 40 books for 40 days, just to looking at my own library. What makes your book different, Tim?

 

Tim Cameron: I think what makes it different is I really focused in on how did Jesus pray, and what His prayer life teaches us. You would think that there would be dozens of books written about the way Jesus prayed and about all the times he prayed. And to be honest, I did a lot of vetting and I couldn't find a single book that talked about every time Jesus prayed in the Gospels. I looked at a lot of different sources and narrowed it down and found what I believe are the 23 times when He prayed out loud in the Gospels. I just started sifting through them and said, OK, what does His prayer life teach us about prayer. So, that's what makes my book different.

 

Dr. Steve Greene: That is different and I'm working my way through others and I want to get to this book, but I want to leave it its own place because, first of all, it was you. Then, of course, really focusing on the prayers of Jesus. I've been focused on some of the Apostolic prayers of Ephesians and in other places, and I've really found them helpful, but they're heady. You almost need a concordance with you to study it while you're praying it, right? When Jesus prays it’s so clear. I know what He's saying when he prays, don’t you?

 

Tim Cameron: That's what I wanted to get down to. It's one of the really interesting questions. OK, we know Jesus prayed. Luke never met Jesus. When Luke decided to write his account, he said to the guy who he was writing it to, OK, I'm going to do a lot of investigation. I'm going to go to the eyewitnesses. We know that Jesus probably revealed himself to maybe 752,000 people during the 40 days after He had risen from the dead. So, Luke goes around and writes this account and one of the majestic things he says in Luke 5 is he says Jesus often withdrew to pray; He went away to pray. He constantly did it. He often did it. It was his habit. He did it frequently. He constantly withdrew to pray. If He was out there praying, how was He praying and what was he praying: That's a huge question. How did Jesus pray? Here's one of the real tip offs. It says repeatedly of Jesus that He did nothing on his own, that He only spoke things He heard the Father speak to Him. If that’s the case, it tells us that Jesus’ prayer life was a whole lot more about listening than it was about speaking.

 

·         Luke 5:15-16:Yet even more so His fame went everywhere. And great crowds came together to hear and to be healed by Him of their infirmities. But He withdrew to the wilderness and prayed” (MEV).

 

Dr. Steve Greene: That's really what it should be for all of us. That's why I want to start my morning when I pray. Early in the morning, I find my place of prayer and I want to be prepared to pray, so I read a devotional. Does that make sense? I get quiet. And I try to pull it down and then I start after listening, I start making my petitions known. I'm very afraid of any formulaic praying. But we can't go wrong with praying as Jesus did and praying the Lord's Prayer, the 23rd Psalm, praying those types of prayers. There's nothing wrong with that. I just want to be fresh and original every morning.

 

Tim Cameron: You know, it has to be. Here's one thing I discovered. As soon as we assign that, OK, I can only pray at this time and I've got to pray in this way and these are the words I have to pray …. If you get caught in those three things, it’s the spirit of prayer leaves immediately. I'll say this about prayer. You have to have set times of prayer with the Lord, and you got to have a spirit of prayer over your life at the same time. It takes both.

 

Dr. Steve Greene: That's a good segue into this question that you write about this in your book about opening us up to the power of the Holy Spirit. I never really thought about prayer opening me up to the Holy Spirit because I pray in the Spirit. So, clarify that for me a little bit.

 

Tim Cameron: I love this. I love this scene. Luke is the only one who records it. Jesus is at His baptism and it says, while Jesus was praying, the heavens opened up, the heavens literally opened up and the Holy Spirit comes and descends upon Jesus. In the in the Gospels, three different times it says the heavens actually opened up and God from Heaven spoke to his Son and everybody around heard it. What must have that have been like? How majestic and crazy was that? So, here's the picture of Jesus. He's 100 percent human; he’s flesh and blood just like we are, and that's one of the things I think we have a hard time getting our arms around is that Jesus hungered and thirsted and He had a need. His need was for the power of the Holy Spirit in his flesh. So, here at the Baptism, the Holy Spirit comes on him and descends upon him. It does to Jesus just what it did like to … let's take Elizabeth for instance. Elizabeth, when Mary walked up to her, it says Elizabeth was immediately filled with the Spirit and she starts prophesying. Zachariah, her husband, he's still with spirit. He starts prophesying. Simeon, when he sees the baby Jesus for the first time, the spirit Lord comes on him. He starts prophesying. Well, that's the impact the Holy Spirit had on Jesus. Immediately He leads Him out into the into the wilderness to be tempted, and the Holy Spirit guides his life from then on.

 

Connect with Tim Cameron

·         At timcameronprayer.com

·         On Facebook

·         On Twitter

 

Greenelines Host Information

Dr. Steve Greene is the Publisher and Executive Vice President of Charisma Media. Dr. Greene received his Ph.D. in marketing from Memphis State University. He has worked in television station management and worked directly with over 80 stations throughout the United States. He has worked in marketing capacities with McDonald’s, Jiffy Lube, and Stanley Steemer. He has owned restaurants, a national advertising agency and a syndicated marketing research firm. Dr. Greene has served as the Dean of the College of Business and professor of marketing at Oral Roberts University. He is also the author of Love Leads, which dispels the myths and misconceptions many have come to accept about leadership.

To learn more about Dr. Steve Greene, connect with him on social media!

Facebook: https://facebook.com/drsgreene/

Twitter: https://twitter.com/DrSteveGreene

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dr.stevegreene/

 

email: greenelines@charismamedia.com

Episode Notes

Greenelines with

Dr. Steve Greene

Guest: Tim Cameron

 

 

Author Tim Cameron says there are two great hindrances to prayer for believers: They’re either too busy to pray or pray effectively, and/or they are too worldly.

 

That may be a bit much for many Christians to swallow, but think about it. Busyness, Cameron says, “steals our time to pray and worldliness takes away our will to pray. A person who's too busy to pray is just too busy lead a godly life. A person who's too worldly has given his will to the world.”

 

Cameron’s book 40 Days Through the Prayers of Jesus (Charisma House, 2017) is a journey to pray more like Christ. As Cameron explains it to Grenelines podcast host Dr. Steve Greene, it is a journey that will help believers make better decisions.

 

For the rest of Dr. Greene’s interview with Tim Cameron, visit cpnshows.com.

 

Introduction

Dr. Steve Greene: Most of us go through life making decisions. We make decisions every day; small ones, medium ones, great big ones. We come to forks in the road and we have to decide which turn to take or whether or not keep going straight. Many decisions are impacted by various types of biases. The most common bias is confirmation bias where we do what we think we should do, and then we confirm it was right because we thought it would be right without maybe even considering whether or not there was some facts affecting it, or worse than that, whether or not there was a spiritual draw perhaps by the Holy Spirit to take us in a little bit different direction than we thought we should be going. Our biases really show in decision making. As a decision-making teacher, I've taught science classes in the in the problematic games of decision making, like in science, and apply that probability theory to help us make a decision based on science. None of that really works when it comes down to it, if it's not the way of the Lord. So I believe that our guest today will get some good insight to us on how to make better decisions. He does in a way that is different and unique. You would call this a book about prayer. I like to call it a book to help me in my decision making. There are four to 10 books that I would assign to my students in decision-making classes and not one of them really included prayer. I wish I would have had this book. It was all about the science of decision making. I hope that by the time we finish this podcast today that you come to a place where you realize that decision making must be bathed with prayer. I set a goal at the beginning of this year to pray first and to pray fast. So, in other words, when someone says I need you to pray for me, I want to stop everything and do that prayer. When I come to a fork in the road, I want to pray fast and I want to pray before I ever decide. Think of the problems that would get us out of if we could get to the place where we bathe every decision in prayer. My guest today is going to help us with that a lot. I can't wait to speak with him. He's a good friend of ours at Charisma. He's written great books. We love him. He's written a book on fasting with our vocabulary. In other words, speaking less. I had the privilege of interviewing him about that book and I read it again after the interview. I still have it on my re-read shelf because I like it so much. So, welcome Tim Cameron to the podcast.

 

So, your book is 40 Days Through the Prayers of Jesus a journey to pray more like Christ. Do you agree with my assessment that this will help us to make better decisions?

 

Tim Cameron: Absolutely. It’s one of the things you'll see almost as soon as you start looking at Jesus's life, if he prayed about everything, every decision.

 

Tim Cameron on Charisma

·         How to Know Whether You Have a Pride Problem

·         Before You Pray for Anything, Do This

·         Your Spiritual Life Depends on This Crucial Discipline

·         Spiritual Habits Form in the New Year

 

Dr. Steve Greene: He did, and he came up with the right conclusions even though he probably saw the answer before he even prayed. I feel like I get to that place where sometimes I know how this is going to go. I'm a businessman, I know when I've seen before and that's when we get those biases working and we start thinking we've got the answer. So, we don't slow down enough to pray.

 

Tim Cameron: Well you really hit on a on a key factor, that we don't slow down enough to pray. I like to say that there's two great hindrances to prayer; one we're too busy and the other one we’re too worldly. Busyness steals our time to pray and worldliness takes away our will to pray. A person who's too busy to pray is just too busy lead a godly life. A person who's too worldly has given his will to the world.

 

Dr. Steve Greene: So, you've turned this into a sort of a devotional book, correct? You could break it down into 40 days of prayer.

 

Tim Cameron: Yes. Let me give you a little backdrop first of how this came about. My journey to write this book was really a personal journey of a really dramatic chronic pain that I’ve had for about five years. I was in and out of the wheelchair and in bad and had a number of major surgeries. I had two knee replacements and back surgery. I got so messed up on painkillers and other things and pain that I just had to quit working right in the middle of my most productive years of my working career. I had to quit working. I actually almost died a couple times and overdoses. I remember the promise I made myself as a young Christian man at ORU in my early 20s when I came to the Lord, that I was not going to enter the kingdom of heaven without knowing what it meant to pray and seek God’s answers, for him to answer my prayers to bring down blessing upon other people. So it’s in that backdrop that I just dove into the Lord and said, Lord, I need You to reveal to me what it means to pray and how to see your prayers answered.

 

Tim Cameron Books

·         40 Days Through the Prayers of Jesus (Charisma House, 2017)

·         The Forty-Day Word Fast (Charisma House, 2015)

 

Dr. Steve Greene: I begin every morning with a with a prayer devotional book there's so many written. There are probably 40 books for 40 days, just to looking at my own library. What makes your book different, Tim?

 

Tim Cameron: I think what makes it different is I really focused in on how did Jesus pray, and what His prayer life teaches us. You would think that there would be dozens of books written about the way Jesus prayed and about all the times he prayed. And to be honest, I did a lot of vetting and I couldn't find a single book that talked about every time Jesus prayed in the Gospels. I looked at a lot of different sources and narrowed it down and found what I believe are the 23 times when He prayed out loud in the Gospels. I just started sifting through them and said, OK, what does His prayer life teach us about prayer. So, that's what makes my book different.

 

Dr. Steve Greene: That is different and I'm working my way through others and I want to get to this book, but I want to leave it its own place because, first of all, it was you. Then, of course, really focusing on the prayers of Jesus. I've been focused on some of the Apostolic prayers of Ephesians and in other places, and I've really found them helpful, but they're heady. You almost need a concordance with you to study it while you're praying it, right? When Jesus prays it’s so clear. I know what He's saying when he prays, don’t you?

 

Tim Cameron: That's what I wanted to get down to. It's one of the really interesting questions. OK, we know Jesus prayed. Luke never met Jesus. When Luke decided to write his account, he said to the guy who he was writing it to, OK, I'm going to do a lot of investigation. I'm going to go to the eyewitnesses. We know that Jesus probably revealed himself to maybe 752,000 people during the 40 days after He had risen from the dead. So, Luke goes around and writes this account and one of the majestic things he says in Luke 5 is he says Jesus often withdrew to pray; He went away to pray. He constantly did it. He often did it. It was his habit. He did it frequently. He constantly withdrew to pray. If He was out there praying, how was He praying and what was he praying: That's a huge question. How did Jesus pray? Here's one of the real tip offs. It says repeatedly of Jesus that He did nothing on his own, that He only spoke things He heard the Father speak to Him. If that’s the case, it tells us that Jesus’ prayer life was a whole lot more about listening than it was about speaking.

 

·         Luke 5:15-16:Yet even more so His fame went everywhere. And great crowds came together to hear and to be healed by Him of their infirmities. But He withdrew to the wilderness and prayed” (MEV).

 

Dr. Steve Greene: That's really what it should be for all of us. That's why I want to start my morning when I pray. Early in the morning, I find my place of prayer and I want to be prepared to pray, so I read a devotional. Does that make sense? I get quiet. And I try to pull it down and then I start after listening, I start making my petitions known. I'm very afraid of any formulaic praying. But we can't go wrong with praying as Jesus did and praying the Lord's Prayer, the 23rd Psalm, praying those types of prayers. There's nothing wrong with that. I just want to be fresh and original every morning.

 

Tim Cameron: You know, it has to be. Here's one thing I discovered. As soon as we assign that, OK, I can only pray at this time and I've got to pray in this way and these are the words I have to pray …. If you get caught in those three things, it’s the spirit of prayer leaves immediately. I'll say this about prayer. You have to have set times of prayer with the Lord, and you got to have a spirit of prayer over your life at the same time. It takes both.

 

Dr. Steve Greene: That's a good segue into this question that you write about this in your book about opening us up to the power of the Holy Spirit. I never really thought about prayer opening me up to the Holy Spirit because I pray in the Spirit. So, clarify that for me a little bit.

 

Tim Cameron: I love this. I love this scene. Luke is the only one who records it. Jesus is at His baptism and it says, while Jesus was praying, the heavens opened up, the heavens literally opened up and the Holy Spirit comes and descends upon Jesus. In the in the Gospels, three different times it says the heavens actually opened up and God from Heaven spoke to his Son and everybody around heard it. What must have that have been like? How majestic and crazy was that? So, here's the picture of Jesus. He's 100 percent human; he’s flesh and blood just like we are, and that's one of the things I think we have a hard time getting our arms around is that Jesus hungered and thirsted and He had a need. His need was for the power of the Holy Spirit in his flesh. So, here at the Baptism, the Holy Spirit comes on him and descends upon him. It does to Jesus just what it did like to … let's take Elizabeth for instance. Elizabeth, when Mary walked up to her, it says Elizabeth was immediately filled with the Spirit and she starts prophesying. Zachariah, her husband, he's still with spirit. He starts prophesying. Simeon, when he sees the baby Jesus for the first time, the spirit Lord comes on him. He starts prophesying. Well, that's the impact the Holy Spirit had on Jesus. Immediately He leads Him out into the into the wilderness to be tempted, and the Holy Spirit guides his life from then on.

 

Connect with Tim Cameron

·         At timcameronprayer.com

·         On Facebook

·         On Twitter

 

Greenelines Host Information

Dr. Steve Greene is the Publisher and Executive Vice President of Charisma Media. Dr. Greene received his Ph.D. in marketing from Memphis State University. He has worked in television station management and worked directly with over 80 stations throughout the United States. He has worked in marketing capacities with McDonald’s, Jiffy Lube, and Stanley Steemer. He has owned restaurants, a national advertising agency and a syndicated marketing research firm. Dr. Greene has served as the Dean of the College of Business and professor of marketing at Oral Roberts University. He is also the author of Love Leads, which dispels the myths and misconceptions many have come to accept about leadership.

To learn more about Dr. Steve Greene, connect with him on social media!

Facebook: https://facebook.com/drsgreene/

Twitter: https://twitter.com/DrSteveGreene

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dr.stevegreene/

 

email: greenelines@charismamedia.com

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40 Days Through the Prayers of Jesus with Tim Cameron (Season 5, Ep. 33)