What To Do When You Face a Storm with Carol McLeod

What To Do When You Face a Storm with Carol McLeod

How do you approach the storm you are facing? The storm could be sickness, finances, loneliness or depression. Author and speaker Carol McLeod says, "Don't waste your pain. Take it, learn from it and help others with it." Listen as she teaches from her new book, StormProof, what to do when you face your storm of the century. Take away from this interview the value of worshipping the Lord before you know the outcome and changing your thinking to ask questions of hope.

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Episode Notes

Greenelines with

Dr. Steve Greene

Guest: Carol McLeod

How do you approach the storm you are facing? The storm could be sickness, finances, loneliness or depression. Author and speaker Carol McLeod says, “Don't waste your pain. Take it, learn from it and help others with it.” Listen as she teaches from her new book, StormProof, what to do when you face your storm of the century.

Take away from this interview the value of worshipping the Lord before you know the outcome and changing your thinking to ask questions of hope.

Introduction

Dr. Steve Greene: This is the Greenelines podcast. I'm Steve Greene on the Charisma Podcast Network. I'd like to tell you about a series that's available to you now through CharismaMany of you have seen bits and pieces of maybe one of these books, The Deborah AnointingThe Esther AnointingThe Anna Anointing, and The Ruth Anointing, plus a free bonus all in the Solid Rock Series. You're going to get all four anointing books by Michelle McClain-Walters, plus a Charisma subscription and to Life in the Spirit devotions for only $36. I want to say that part of it again. You're going to get all four of those anointing books by Michelle McClain Walters. Plus, you'll receive a Charisma subscription, a subscription to Charisma magazine, and then you'll get two Life in a Spirit devotionals for only $36. Now, you can find this at charismamag.com/anoint. Or, you can just look right here, down below this podcast in the show notes and you'll see the link to charismamag.com/anoint. I know you'll love these books, and I know you'll love the free bonuses and a subscription to Charisma magazine. Now let's get to the show.

·         Listen to another Greenelines with Carol McLeod: Guide, Guard and Grace with Carol Burton McLeod

Dr. Steve Greene: It seems like a chunk of my life I've been chasing storms. I had a natural interest for storms. I always had radar around the house, I had little gimmicks that you could buy at stores and really be concerned with storms. I spent a lot of time in the Midwest growing up, and so we had our version of tornadoes. When I arrived in New Orleans when I moved there for my fourth high school, I was in the midst of Hurricane Camille. Some of you who know Camille, know that was a one of those real bad ones. So, I went outside and played. I didn't know. I wanted to be around that stuff. I was a junior in high school and I wanted to see what a hurricane was like. So, I did. I learned that it was dangerous. I spent a lot of my time in Tulsa at ORU and in Oklahoma, and I really was reintroduced to tornadoes. I no longer think they're very fun. I no longer would get in a car go chase them. We know of a weatherman who was killed chasing a storm. Why would someone do that, drive their good car into a very bad storm? They just wanted to report and to do science and to report back.

Well, there's a lot of storms in life too. I have a guest with me today in the studio and I'm always thrilled and excited when I have a guest in the studio but especially this guest. Some of you know that I've interviewed Carol McLeod before. Carol is a great friend. She was very important to me at ORU as a member of the alumni board back in the days when I was there. She was great with my students. My students still love her, still reach out and talk with her. I just have learned so much from her over the years. We've had a very professorial relationship of speaking into each other's life. Let me tell you this. She's about to speak into yours. Her latest book … I don't know how many do you have out now …

 

Carol McLeod’s Jolt of Joy Podcasts on CPN

·         You Were Made for This Day: Time Spent on Your Knees

·         Hanging Out with Jesus – The Time of Day is Now

·         Walk by Faith, Not By Sight

 

Carol McLeod: That’s book number 10.

Dr. Steve Greene: Book number 10. Any one of her books you pick up, I promise they will speak into your life. You'll get something from it. But this is the book we're going to talk about today. The name of the book is Storm Proof: Weathering Life's Tough Times. The author, Carol McLeod, is my friend, author, minister, missionary. Just an amazing woman of God.

 

Some of Carol McLeod’s Books

·         Guide Your Mind, Guard Your Heart, Grace Your Tongue

·         Holy Estrogen!: Every Woman’s Guide to Making Her Emotions the Holiest Part of Her

·         Pass the Joy, Please!: Passing the Joy of Motherhood from Generation to Generation

·         Refined: Finding Joy in the Midst of Fire

 

Carol McLeod: I know that people can feel the energy in the room. There's energy there is Holy Spirit energy.

Dr. Steve Greene: So, the book, Storm Proof. You talked a little bit about it before we went on the air. We talked with our Facebook crowd that’s watching. We're doing a Facebook Live podcast as we're doing this. But Carol, you have gone through a lot of storms in your life. Some of them I know about and some I just learned the severity of. It's not the kind of question somebody probes. But I think I'd like for people to understand your baseline that you're qualified to write about storm proofing. You've not just gone through average storms, but you've been through some deep ones. Would you share a little bit about your storms and how God taught you to write this book?

 

Carol McLeod on Charisma

·         Practical Helps to Conquer Your Depression

·         Why Praying in Tongues Can Bring You the Breakthrough You Need

·         Guide, Guard and Grace: A Recipe for Spiritual Warfare Success

·         Have You Fallen for This Debilitating Lie About God’s Kingdom?

 

Carol McLeod: I think when people pick up a book, they don't realize that every book has a backstory, hat there's a there's a why for every book. You know a lot of my backstory. I sent five babies to heaven. I went through years of deep depression. Those were storms I walked through, but they weren't the storms that created this book. The storm that really created this book happened in November of 2014. On November 3, I got the phone call that no woman wants to get. The biopsy was clearly cancerous. It was an aggressive form of cancer. It was contained. I spent the next week in the doctor’s office and testing rooms, having my body probed, poked and prodded and pushed and examined. On Monday, November 10, my husband and I were to meet with the oncologist and the surgeon to find out what their strategy was going to be. The night before, Sunday night, the storm of the century hit Buffalo, New York. In Buffalo, New York, we know what storms are.

Dr. Steve Greene: You said storm of the century hit Buffalo. This is gonna be bad.

Carol McLeod: Yeah, this is a whopper This is a doozy. In five days, we got over eight feet of snow in my backyard. The roads were closed for two and a half weeks. So, all my appointments were put off. I couldn't see a doctor until after Thanksgiving. I thought what, are you kidding me? I need to get cancer out of my body. And yet I have to wait. now yesterday. So, there was a storm going on outside my windows; I couldn't see outside my windows. And there was a storm inside of me. I heard the Holy Spirit say to me, Carol, I want you to study every storm in the Bible. I didn't realize that the blizzard of 2014 gave me the gift of time to hunker down to put my anchor into the Word of God so that I was prepared for the storm that I was going to have to walk through. So, over the next six to 10 months, that's what I did. I studied every storm in the Bible and Storm Proof is the result of that study.

Dr. Steve Greene: We're talking about a lot of years of study, and some of us can crank out a book pretty quick. I know several people that are really prolific, like you, and they can crank out a lot of books. But at the same time, this one was birthed in you with some horrible experiences.

Carol McLeod: Yes, it really was. One of my sayings in life is don't waste your pain. We all go through storms, we all have pain. But so many people, what they do is they waste it. They don't use it to learn from it or to be strengthened from it, or to use it as a platform. Second Corinthians says that we serve the God of all hope, who comforts us in all of our affliction. So, this is the reason he comforts us so that we will comfort others.

Dr. Steve Greene: There is always a so that.

Carol McLeod: Yes, so I'm not going to waste my pain. I'm going to take it, learn from it, and help others who are also in a storm in life.

Dr. Steve Greene: You and I went through a similar storm together with Jordan Lewis. I speak of him often, so this isn't news to anyone. But Jordan was married to your daughter's roommate. They went through this right very publicly in front of all of us. It was not hidden at all. Jordan had got the first healing from cancer. And they got married, thinking things were going to be OK. They knew when they got married there was a good probability, or a at least a possibility … I think it had already been diagnosed, in fact, the second one. They rushed to marry.

Carl McLeod: Yeah, I would say we planned the wedding of the century in three and a half weeks. You were there and I was there. But you know, Katie was my summer intern, the year that she and Jordan fell in love. So, I watched the whole relationship unfold for about the next 18 or 20 months and we walked Jordan through cancer, stood in strong faith. We really believed that he was going to live a long life this side of heaven. And then of course, when he walked into eternity, he wasn't lost. I don't believe we lost him. I believe he walked triumphantly into eternity. Joy and I held Katie's hands for the next several years. I love that girl like she was my very own. But she taught me in many ways how to weather a storm.

Dr. Steve Greene: I was on a platform of his memorial service. A young lady walked up there and spoke as a leader. She was what 23, 24 about the time and to be able to talk through that the way that she did. She led with grace. she handled herself … I don't know how she weathered it the way she did except by the grace of Jesus, I don't know any other way. I share that because there's people listening to this that are in grief, they're in a storm. That's very similar to what these kids went through. You know, 23-year-old kids should not have to go through this. They ought not have to carry their husband up the stairs to their apartment. She had to literally carry him up on some days, most of the latter days. She saw things that people don't ever want to see in ministering to him and trying to help him. She moved on. She was remarried and she's happy and she’s going to be fine. But that storm had to have formed her in ways that some of us will never understand.

Carol McLeod: Yes, storms have a way of refining us and defining us. We have to make sure that we're refined by them and not ruined by them. In all of our lives, there's undergrowth that needs to happen. There are things that need to be established and repaired. But in Katie's life, we saw that. We saw the Holy Spirit do a wonderful work. And this is the point is that your age has nothing to do with what kind of vicious storm you're going through. You can be a teenager, you can be in your 20s, you can be in your 80s and you can be facing the storm of the century in your life. So, what do you do?

Dr. Steve Greene: What do you do, a really good question. You fall back on your faith and I think that's your book. What do you do? So, before we go into some of the research you did and some of the stories you have to tell, tell us what's on the other side of a storm for you. What do you know about the entrance of new storms, because you still have them? You've beaten a good one. But cloudbursts still come up. You’re still a storm chaser. No that you want them, but you know how to chase them out of your life. Share some of that, what you've learned from some of these bad experiences.

Carol McLeod: Yes, I never wanted to be known as the girl who struggled with depression. I never wanted to be known as the woman whose body was riddled with cancer. I could give you some others that I never wanted to be known as, but I'm not going to do that yet because I'm still in the midst of the storm. But this is the thing. When I studied the Word of God, and as I watched other people whose lives have been racked by storms, they have one thing in common. They worship their way through the storm. It's a great recipe. They all worshiped. Did you know that Jonah worshiped the Lord in the belly of the whale? His circumstances had not changed, they'd actually gone from better to worse. The storm had gotten worse and worse. Then he was swallowed alive by a gargantuan fish, and we know the end of the story. He didn't know the end of the story. They worshiped before they knew the end of their story. To me, if we could boil this book down, if you're going to forget everything else I say today, remember this. When you are in a storm, lift your hands and worship the Lord.

Dr. Steve Greene: That’s good. That’s great. It is great to worship, to truly worship the Lord in a storm. It is it takes a deep level of faith. It really does.

 

Connect with Carol McLeod

·         On Facebook

·         On Twitter

·         Carol McLeod Ministries

Greenelines Host Information

Dr. Steve Greene is the Publisher and Executive Vice President of Charisma Media. Dr. Greene received his Ph.D. in marketing from Memphis State University. He has worked in television station management and worked directly with over 80 stations throughout the United States. He has worked in marketing capacities with McDonald’s, Jiffy Lube, and Stanley Steemer. He has owned restaurants, a national advertising agency and a syndicated marketing research firm. Dr. Greene has served as the Dean of the College of Business and professor of marketing at Oral Roberts University. He is also the author of Love Leads, which dispels the myths and misconceptions many have come to accept about leadership.

To learn more about Dr. Steve Greene, connect with him on social media!

Facebook: https://facebook.com/drsgreene/

Twitter: https://twitter.com/DrSteveGreene

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dr.stevegreene/

Episode Notes

Greenelines with

Dr. Steve Greene

Guest: Carol McLeod

How do you approach the storm you are facing? The storm could be sickness, finances, loneliness or depression. Author and speaker Carol McLeod says, “Don't waste your pain. Take it, learn from it and help others with it.” Listen as she teaches from her new book, StormProof, what to do when you face your storm of the century.

Take away from this interview the value of worshipping the Lord before you know the outcome and changing your thinking to ask questions of hope.

Introduction

Dr. Steve Greene: This is the Greenelines podcast. I'm Steve Greene on the Charisma Podcast Network. I'd like to tell you about a series that's available to you now through CharismaMany of you have seen bits and pieces of maybe one of these books, The Deborah AnointingThe Esther AnointingThe Anna Anointing, and The Ruth Anointing, plus a free bonus all in the Solid Rock Series. You're going to get all four anointing books by Michelle McClain-Walters, plus a Charisma subscription and to Life in the Spirit devotions for only $36. I want to say that part of it again. You're going to get all four of those anointing books by Michelle McClain Walters. Plus, you'll receive a Charisma subscription, a subscription to Charisma magazine, and then you'll get two Life in a Spirit devotionals for only $36. Now, you can find this at charismamag.com/anoint. Or, you can just look right here, down below this podcast in the show notes and you'll see the link to charismamag.com/anoint. I know you'll love these books, and I know you'll love the free bonuses and a subscription to Charisma magazine. Now let's get to the show.

·         Listen to another Greenelines with Carol McLeod: Guide, Guard and Grace with Carol Burton McLeod

Dr. Steve Greene: It seems like a chunk of my life I've been chasing storms. I had a natural interest for storms. I always had radar around the house, I had little gimmicks that you could buy at stores and really be concerned with storms. I spent a lot of time in the Midwest growing up, and so we had our version of tornadoes. When I arrived in New Orleans when I moved there for my fourth high school, I was in the midst of Hurricane Camille. Some of you who know Camille, know that was a one of those real bad ones. So, I went outside and played. I didn't know. I wanted to be around that stuff. I was a junior in high school and I wanted to see what a hurricane was like. So, I did. I learned that it was dangerous. I spent a lot of my time in Tulsa at ORU and in Oklahoma, and I really was reintroduced to tornadoes. I no longer think they're very fun. I no longer would get in a car go chase them. We know of a weatherman who was killed chasing a storm. Why would someone do that, drive their good car into a very bad storm? They just wanted to report and to do science and to report back.

Well, there's a lot of storms in life too. I have a guest with me today in the studio and I'm always thrilled and excited when I have a guest in the studio but especially this guest. Some of you know that I've interviewed Carol McLeod before. Carol is a great friend. She was very important to me at ORU as a member of the alumni board back in the days when I was there. She was great with my students. My students still love her, still reach out and talk with her. I just have learned so much from her over the years. We've had a very professorial relationship of speaking into each other's life. Let me tell you this. She's about to speak into yours. Her latest book … I don't know how many do you have out now …

 

Carol McLeod’s Jolt of Joy Podcasts on CPN

·         You Were Made for This Day: Time Spent on Your Knees

·         Hanging Out with Jesus – The Time of Day is Now

·         Walk by Faith, Not By Sight

 

Carol McLeod: That’s book number 10.

Dr. Steve Greene: Book number 10. Any one of her books you pick up, I promise they will speak into your life. You'll get something from it. But this is the book we're going to talk about today. The name of the book is Storm Proof: Weathering Life's Tough Times. The author, Carol McLeod, is my friend, author, minister, missionary. Just an amazing woman of God.

 

Some of Carol McLeod’s Books

·         Guide Your Mind, Guard Your Heart, Grace Your Tongue

·         Holy Estrogen!: Every Woman’s Guide to Making Her Emotions the Holiest Part of Her

·         Pass the Joy, Please!: Passing the Joy of Motherhood from Generation to Generation

·         Refined: Finding Joy in the Midst of Fire

 

Carol McLeod: I know that people can feel the energy in the room. There's energy there is Holy Spirit energy.

Dr. Steve Greene: So, the book, Storm Proof. You talked a little bit about it before we went on the air. We talked with our Facebook crowd that’s watching. We're doing a Facebook Live podcast as we're doing this. But Carol, you have gone through a lot of storms in your life. Some of them I know about and some I just learned the severity of. It's not the kind of question somebody probes. But I think I'd like for people to understand your baseline that you're qualified to write about storm proofing. You've not just gone through average storms, but you've been through some deep ones. Would you share a little bit about your storms and how God taught you to write this book?

 

Carol McLeod on Charisma

·         Practical Helps to Conquer Your Depression

·         Why Praying in Tongues Can Bring You the Breakthrough You Need

·         Guide, Guard and Grace: A Recipe for Spiritual Warfare Success

·         Have You Fallen for This Debilitating Lie About God’s Kingdom?

 

Carol McLeod: I think when people pick up a book, they don't realize that every book has a backstory, hat there's a there's a why for every book. You know a lot of my backstory. I sent five babies to heaven. I went through years of deep depression. Those were storms I walked through, but they weren't the storms that created this book. The storm that really created this book happened in November of 2014. On November 3, I got the phone call that no woman wants to get. The biopsy was clearly cancerous. It was an aggressive form of cancer. It was contained. I spent the next week in the doctor’s office and testing rooms, having my body probed, poked and prodded and pushed and examined. On Monday, November 10, my husband and I were to meet with the oncologist and the surgeon to find out what their strategy was going to be. The night before, Sunday night, the storm of the century hit Buffalo, New York. In Buffalo, New York, we know what storms are.

Dr. Steve Greene: You said storm of the century hit Buffalo. This is gonna be bad.

Carol McLeod: Yeah, this is a whopper This is a doozy. In five days, we got over eight feet of snow in my backyard. The roads were closed for two and a half weeks. So, all my appointments were put off. I couldn't see a doctor until after Thanksgiving. I thought what, are you kidding me? I need to get cancer out of my body. And yet I have to wait. now yesterday. So, there was a storm going on outside my windows; I couldn't see outside my windows. And there was a storm inside of me. I heard the Holy Spirit say to me, Carol, I want you to study every storm in the Bible. I didn't realize that the blizzard of 2014 gave me the gift of time to hunker down to put my anchor into the Word of God so that I was prepared for the storm that I was going to have to walk through. So, over the next six to 10 months, that's what I did. I studied every storm in the Bible and Storm Proof is the result of that study.

Dr. Steve Greene: We're talking about a lot of years of study, and some of us can crank out a book pretty quick. I know several people that are really prolific, like you, and they can crank out a lot of books. But at the same time, this one was birthed in you with some horrible experiences.

Carol McLeod: Yes, it really was. One of my sayings in life is don't waste your pain. We all go through storms, we all have pain. But so many people, what they do is they waste it. They don't use it to learn from it or to be strengthened from it, or to use it as a platform. Second Corinthians says that we serve the God of all hope, who comforts us in all of our affliction. So, this is the reason he comforts us so that we will comfort others.

Dr. Steve Greene: There is always a so that.

Carol McLeod: Yes, so I'm not going to waste my pain. I'm going to take it, learn from it, and help others who are also in a storm in life.

Dr. Steve Greene: You and I went through a similar storm together with Jordan Lewis. I speak of him often, so this isn't news to anyone. But Jordan was married to your daughter's roommate. They went through this right very publicly in front of all of us. It was not hidden at all. Jordan had got the first healing from cancer. And they got married, thinking things were going to be OK. They knew when they got married there was a good probability, or a at least a possibility … I think it had already been diagnosed, in fact, the second one. They rushed to marry.

Carl McLeod: Yeah, I would say we planned the wedding of the century in three and a half weeks. You were there and I was there. But you know, Katie was my summer intern, the year that she and Jordan fell in love. So, I watched the whole relationship unfold for about the next 18 or 20 months and we walked Jordan through cancer, stood in strong faith. We really believed that he was going to live a long life this side of heaven. And then of course, when he walked into eternity, he wasn't lost. I don't believe we lost him. I believe he walked triumphantly into eternity. Joy and I held Katie's hands for the next several years. I love that girl like she was my very own. But she taught me in many ways how to weather a storm.

Dr. Steve Greene: I was on a platform of his memorial service. A young lady walked up there and spoke as a leader. She was what 23, 24 about the time and to be able to talk through that the way that she did. She led with grace. she handled herself … I don't know how she weathered it the way she did except by the grace of Jesus, I don't know any other way. I share that because there's people listening to this that are in grief, they're in a storm. That's very similar to what these kids went through. You know, 23-year-old kids should not have to go through this. They ought not have to carry their husband up the stairs to their apartment. She had to literally carry him up on some days, most of the latter days. She saw things that people don't ever want to see in ministering to him and trying to help him. She moved on. She was remarried and she's happy and she’s going to be fine. But that storm had to have formed her in ways that some of us will never understand.

Carol McLeod: Yes, storms have a way of refining us and defining us. We have to make sure that we're refined by them and not ruined by them. In all of our lives, there's undergrowth that needs to happen. There are things that need to be established and repaired. But in Katie's life, we saw that. We saw the Holy Spirit do a wonderful work. And this is the point is that your age has nothing to do with what kind of vicious storm you're going through. You can be a teenager, you can be in your 20s, you can be in your 80s and you can be facing the storm of the century in your life. So, what do you do?

Dr. Steve Greene: What do you do, a really good question. You fall back on your faith and I think that's your book. What do you do? So, before we go into some of the research you did and some of the stories you have to tell, tell us what's on the other side of a storm for you. What do you know about the entrance of new storms, because you still have them? You've beaten a good one. But cloudbursts still come up. You’re still a storm chaser. No that you want them, but you know how to chase them out of your life. Share some of that, what you've learned from some of these bad experiences.

Carol McLeod: Yes, I never wanted to be known as the girl who struggled with depression. I never wanted to be known as the woman whose body was riddled with cancer. I could give you some others that I never wanted to be known as, but I'm not going to do that yet because I'm still in the midst of the storm. But this is the thing. When I studied the Word of God, and as I watched other people whose lives have been racked by storms, they have one thing in common. They worship their way through the storm. It's a great recipe. They all worshiped. Did you know that Jonah worshiped the Lord in the belly of the whale? His circumstances had not changed, they'd actually gone from better to worse. The storm had gotten worse and worse. Then he was swallowed alive by a gargantuan fish, and we know the end of the story. He didn't know the end of the story. They worshiped before they knew the end of their story. To me, if we could boil this book down, if you're going to forget everything else I say today, remember this. When you are in a storm, lift your hands and worship the Lord.

Dr. Steve Greene: That’s good. That’s great. It is great to worship, to truly worship the Lord in a storm. It is it takes a deep level of faith. It really does.

 

Connect with Carol McLeod

·         On Facebook

·         On Twitter

·         Carol McLeod Ministries

Greenelines Host Information

Dr. Steve Greene is the Publisher and Executive Vice President of Charisma Media. Dr. Greene received his Ph.D. in marketing from Memphis State University. He has worked in television station management and worked directly with over 80 stations throughout the United States. He has worked in marketing capacities with McDonald’s, Jiffy Lube, and Stanley Steemer. He has owned restaurants, a national advertising agency and a syndicated marketing research firm. Dr. Greene has served as the Dean of the College of Business and professor of marketing at Oral Roberts University. He is also the author of Love Leads, which dispels the myths and misconceptions many have come to accept about leadership.

To learn more about Dr. Steve Greene, connect with him on social media!

Facebook: https://facebook.com/drsgreene/

Twitter: https://twitter.com/DrSteveGreene

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dr.stevegreene/

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