Bloodline: Trace God's Rescue Plan From Eden to Eternity With Skip Heitzig

Bloodline: Trace God's Rescue Plan From Eden to Eternity With Skip Heitzig

What is God's redemption plan for man? Skip Heitzig guides you on this journey following a scarlet thread through every book of the Bible in his new book, Bloodline. Listen as he explains the significance of the timing of Jesus' life and how it fits into the purpose of the bloodline.

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Episode Notes

Greenelines with

Dr. Steve Greene

Guest: Skip Heitzig

What is God's redemption plan for man? Skip Heitzig guides you on this journey following a scarlet thread through every book of the Bible in his new book, Bloodline. Listen as he explains the significance of the timing of Jesus' life and how it fits into the purpose of the bloodline.

Introduction

Dr. Steve Greene: This is the Greenelines podcast. I'm Steve Greene on the Charisma Podcast Network. I'd like to tell you about a series that's available to you now through Charisma. Many of you have seen bits and pieces of maybe one of these books, The Deborah AnointingThe Esther AnointingThe Anna Anointing, and The Ruth Anointing, plus a free bonus all in the Solid Rock Series. You're going to get all four anointing books by Michelle McClain-Walters, plus a Charisma subscription and to Life in the Spirit devotions for only $36. I want to say that part of it again. You're going to get all four of those anointing books by Michelle McClain Walters. Plus, you'll receive a Charisma subscription, a subscription to Charisma magazine, and then you'll get two Life in a Spirit devotionals for only $36. Now, you can find this at charismamag.com/anoint. Or, you can just look right here, down below this podcast in the show notes and you'll see the link to charismamag.com/anoint. I know you'll love these books, and I know you'll love the free bonuses and a subscription to Charisma magazine. Now let's get to the show.

 

Some of Skip Heitzig Books

·         The Bible from 30,000 Feet: Soaring Through the Scriptures in One Year from Genesis to Revelation

·         Bloodline: Tracing God’s Rescue Plan from Eden to Eternity

·         You Can Understand the Book of Revelation: Exploring its Mystery and Message

·         How to Study the Bible and Enjoy It

 

Dr. Steve Greene: Today I get to talk to you about a new book by a great author, someone that you all know and love. This pastor’s name is Skip Heitzig. I get to talk with him today about a great new book called Bloodline: Tracing God's Rescue Plan from Eden to Eternity. I don't think there's a better thing to be talking about than the bloodline that goes through the Bible. And even Franklin Graham, listen to what Franklin said about this book. Skip’s insights about the precious blood shed for mankind will prick your mind and touch your heart. I'm in the mood for that. How about you? As you listen to this podcast, be prepared to have your heart touched by this pastor, Skip Heitzig.

 

What They’re Saying About Bloodline

·         “Skip’s insights about the precious blood shed for mankind will prick your mind and touch your heart.” – Franklin Graham

·         “This is Skip at his best, helping us understand the unity of the Bible and it’s central message.” – Dr. Erwin W. Lutzer, Pastor Emeritus, the Moody Church, Chicago

 

This is what it's about. It's certainly Heaven, but it's from baptism to burial and everything that comes in between. Jesus wants us happy. Blessed is His Word. I'd like to check up on your church and see how you're doing. I know that you're still pastoring and you've been pastoring for a long time at Calvary Church there in Albuquerque, New Mexico. Tell me about the growth of your church.

·         Listen to Skip Heitzig’s podcasts here

·         Calvary of Albquerque

Skip Heitzig: It started as a little Bible study. My background was in the medical field. I moved from Southern California to Albuquerque because a friend was coming out here and working in radio. So, I came with him started a Bible study and it grew to 20, 30, 40, 100, etc. Then we didn't know what to do. So, we looked for a building and we happen to get into a movie theater. It was packed the first Sunday. We were kind of going from one rented building and renovated building to another. Now we're currently in a place that was at one time an indoor soccer field, and now is one of our church campus sanctuaries. So, it's grown over the years from a handful of people to about 15,000.

Dr. Steve Greene: That's great work. What do you think? Why is your church being blessed? What does God see going on there that he's sending people to? Why do you feel it has had that kind of growth?

Skip Heitzig: There's a number of factors. I wouldn't pinpoint one thing. But if you were to walk in, there is a culture of love and acceptance that is palpable from the parking lot on down. There's just an excitement. I guess the overarching thing isn't just that we worship God and we look at his word, but we teach the Bible verse by verse from Genesis to Revelation. I've gone through every birth of the Scripture with my congregation a few different times through. We always believe that it's the Word of God that does the work of God in the lives of the people of God, with the Spirit of God interpreting it to them. So, that is sort of our moniker. We go by that. People just kind of love that format. It's an easy to come-to format; it's very relaxed, but worship God intently and intently.

Dr. Steve Greene: That sounds like a recipe for success to me, and you're obviously proving it. I also know that you have a podcast show, and you're busy with radio ministry. Tell us a little bit about that. I want to give a framework for who you are and what your work is, before we talk about your book.

Skip Heitzig: Early on, I saw the value of radio; local radio and national radio. We got involved with local radio stations, worked with them and supported them. I just saw the value of building a church locally through using the means of media in the area. Then we took the program that we produced and we took it out to different markets and different places in the States and saw that it could be a great blessing to people driving to work, in a hospital, at home, etc. Then we thought, it's different than it used to be. People don't listen to something with synchronicity, that is, you don't just have to tune in at 10 a.m. or at a certain time. You can literally do it asynchronously. You can just download a podcast, or go to a website and pick up the show. At your convenience and in your timeframe, you can listen to it. That's what this podcast is all about. A person can listen to it anytime they feel like it. That's the great joy of having media like this. So, we've always been involved in media from early on, so much so that we also own two radio stations, both FM in the area, one's a music station, one's a teaching station. So, we just kind of blanket the area with media.

Dr. Steve Greene: That's outstanding and exciting. Obviously, you do a lot of writing. Before I get to your book, I've got to ask you how you can cover every verse in the Bible regularly because it takes a long time to preach that. How do you do it?

Skip Heitzig: It takes me 11 years, approximately, to do it. So, what I do is I take that kind of teaching and I do that on my midweek study. Then what I'll do is …. I'll still do series, like I'm in the book of Romans. I'll be in the book of Romans for another 32 weeks to get through it. I've been through Revelation and it's taken me a couple years to do it, or John a couple, two and a half years on a Sunday morning. Then I'll mix that up with the shorter series as well. But I take it through the Bible. That's our midweek. We open the book, it's about an hour Bible study, and it's just line upon line, verse by verse. But we feel like the church needs to be able to get the full counsel of God. Something Paul said to the Ephesians after three years, he said I haven't shunned to declare to you the whole counsel of God. I don't think a pastor can honestly say that unless he's taken his people through the Bible. It's something Jay Burnham McGee is to do. And it's something that is been sort of in my spiritual DNA with Chuck Smith. So, it's something I follow.

Dr. Steve Greene: It makes a lot of sense. And as a pastor, I understand it. I just want to sit at your feet, see how you do it. It just takes a lot of time. It sounds like you know exactly what your plan is and how you're going to execute it. So that's great. I want to talk about the greatest message I know that both of us love to preach. You cite it as history hinges on a single pivotal event. Let's talk about Bloodline. What motivated you to write this book? How did you feel called to write Bloodline?

Skip Heitzig: Well, before Bloodline, I wrote a book that really did well, in fact, it was No. 1 for two months in the Christian bookstores Christian market. It was called The Bible From 30,000 Feet. It was like going up high in the air and looking down at the landscape of the Scripture without getting lost in the weeds. I wanted to give the reader a working knowledge of every single book of the Bible just so there was a familiarity with the whole theme of the Bible, but in a nutshell view. So, I did that. But then I took the thought a little bit further. I said, what if I went up higher than 30 thousand feet? What if I went into outer space? If I were to look a little bit higher and look down at the landscape of Scripture, what is the one theme that I would see above all other themes? It was the idea of God's redemptive plan, redemptive history, the bloodline, or as some scholars used to call it, the scarlet thread of redemption that is mentioned beginning in Genesis 3:15 and goes all the way to the book of Revelation. So, I decided, with that in mind, what are the clues? What are the anticipatory texts that talk about this great sacrifice from the Old Testament, what the prophets predicted, anticipated? Of course, they talked about the second coming of Christ, they talked about far more. Since Jesus talked about the fact that he died, according to the Scriptures, was buried according to the Scriptures and was raised according to the Scriptures, I wanted to look at those scriptures and just get that theme, and so I did.

Dr. Steve Greene: So, you make it a point to say in your book that Exodus represents one of the clearest pictures of redemption. Can you make that point for us, to help us understand that?

Skip Heitzig: I'd love to. If you just think of the book of Exodus, the term Exodus means an exit. You're going to leave, and it is about Israel leaving Egypt. They were slaves in Egypt, and they were going to leave. But God gave them something before they left. It was a ritual tied to one of the judgments upon the Egyptians, the death of their firstborn. What God said, you have to take the blood of a lamb and smear it on the lentils and doorpost of every Israelite home. So, deliverance, the shed blood of an innocent victim was tied to their physical deliverance from slavery. That becomes a picture, and it’s such a clear picture that Paul, in First Corinthians 5, refers to Jesus Christ as our Passover because Christ, our Passover, did this, suffered for us. Then the fact that Jesus celebrated the Passover meal with his disciples in an upper room in Jerusalem, and he took the wine that was used at Passover and the familiar bread, and he broke it as every Jewish head of a household did every Passover. But he gave it new meaning. He said, do this in remembrance of me. So, we took the Passover meal, and made it refer to him. Then finally, when Jesus died, he happened to die exactly on Passover Day itself. They had to take him down from the cross because it was the eve of the Passover. So, the fact that Jesus died on Passover, had a Passover meal, said it really is about me. The fact that Paul called Him our Passover, it shows us if you look at the Old Testament book of Exodus through that lens, it becomes very clear that God was painting a picture, or we would say in the movie business, a trailer, a preview of coming attractions.

Connect with Skip Heitzig

·         At connectwithskip.com

·         His broadcasts

·         On Facebook

·         On Twitter

·         On YouTube

 

Greenelines Host Information

Dr. Steve Greene is the Publisher and Executive Vice President of Charisma Media. Dr. Greene received his Ph.D. in marketing from Memphis State University. He has worked in television station management and worked directly with over 80 stations throughout the United States. He has worked in marketing capacities with McDonald’s, Jiffy Lube, and Stanley Steemer. He has owned restaurants, a national advertising agency and a syndicated marketing research firm. Dr. Greene has served as the Dean of the College of Business and professor of marketing at Oral Roberts University. He is also the author of Love Leads, which dispels the myths and misconceptions many have come to accept about leadership.

To learn more about Dr. Steve Greene, connect with him on social media!

Facebook: https://facebook.com/drsgreene/

Twitter: https://twitter.com/DrSteveGreene

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dr.stevegreene/

Episode Notes

Greenelines with

Dr. Steve Greene

Guest: Skip Heitzig

What is God's redemption plan for man? Skip Heitzig guides you on this journey following a scarlet thread through every book of the Bible in his new book, Bloodline. Listen as he explains the significance of the timing of Jesus' life and how it fits into the purpose of the bloodline.

Introduction

Dr. Steve Greene: This is the Greenelines podcast. I'm Steve Greene on the Charisma Podcast Network. I'd like to tell you about a series that's available to you now through Charisma. Many of you have seen bits and pieces of maybe one of these books, The Deborah AnointingThe Esther AnointingThe Anna Anointing, and The Ruth Anointing, plus a free bonus all in the Solid Rock Series. You're going to get all four anointing books by Michelle McClain-Walters, plus a Charisma subscription and to Life in the Spirit devotions for only $36. I want to say that part of it again. You're going to get all four of those anointing books by Michelle McClain Walters. Plus, you'll receive a Charisma subscription, a subscription to Charisma magazine, and then you'll get two Life in a Spirit devotionals for only $36. Now, you can find this at charismamag.com/anoint. Or, you can just look right here, down below this podcast in the show notes and you'll see the link to charismamag.com/anoint. I know you'll love these books, and I know you'll love the free bonuses and a subscription to Charisma magazine. Now let's get to the show.

 

Some of Skip Heitzig Books

·         The Bible from 30,000 Feet: Soaring Through the Scriptures in One Year from Genesis to Revelation

·         Bloodline: Tracing God’s Rescue Plan from Eden to Eternity

·         You Can Understand the Book of Revelation: Exploring its Mystery and Message

·         How to Study the Bible and Enjoy It

 

Dr. Steve Greene: Today I get to talk to you about a new book by a great author, someone that you all know and love. This pastor’s name is Skip Heitzig. I get to talk with him today about a great new book called Bloodline: Tracing God's Rescue Plan from Eden to Eternity. I don't think there's a better thing to be talking about than the bloodline that goes through the Bible. And even Franklin Graham, listen to what Franklin said about this book. Skip’s insights about the precious blood shed for mankind will prick your mind and touch your heart. I'm in the mood for that. How about you? As you listen to this podcast, be prepared to have your heart touched by this pastor, Skip Heitzig.

 

What They’re Saying About Bloodline

·         “Skip’s insights about the precious blood shed for mankind will prick your mind and touch your heart.” – Franklin Graham

·         “This is Skip at his best, helping us understand the unity of the Bible and it’s central message.” – Dr. Erwin W. Lutzer, Pastor Emeritus, the Moody Church, Chicago

 

This is what it's about. It's certainly Heaven, but it's from baptism to burial and everything that comes in between. Jesus wants us happy. Blessed is His Word. I'd like to check up on your church and see how you're doing. I know that you're still pastoring and you've been pastoring for a long time at Calvary Church there in Albuquerque, New Mexico. Tell me about the growth of your church.

·         Listen to Skip Heitzig’s podcasts here

·         Calvary of Albquerque

Skip Heitzig: It started as a little Bible study. My background was in the medical field. I moved from Southern California to Albuquerque because a friend was coming out here and working in radio. So, I came with him started a Bible study and it grew to 20, 30, 40, 100, etc. Then we didn't know what to do. So, we looked for a building and we happen to get into a movie theater. It was packed the first Sunday. We were kind of going from one rented building and renovated building to another. Now we're currently in a place that was at one time an indoor soccer field, and now is one of our church campus sanctuaries. So, it's grown over the years from a handful of people to about 15,000.

Dr. Steve Greene: That's great work. What do you think? Why is your church being blessed? What does God see going on there that he's sending people to? Why do you feel it has had that kind of growth?

Skip Heitzig: There's a number of factors. I wouldn't pinpoint one thing. But if you were to walk in, there is a culture of love and acceptance that is palpable from the parking lot on down. There's just an excitement. I guess the overarching thing isn't just that we worship God and we look at his word, but we teach the Bible verse by verse from Genesis to Revelation. I've gone through every birth of the Scripture with my congregation a few different times through. We always believe that it's the Word of God that does the work of God in the lives of the people of God, with the Spirit of God interpreting it to them. So, that is sort of our moniker. We go by that. People just kind of love that format. It's an easy to come-to format; it's very relaxed, but worship God intently and intently.

Dr. Steve Greene: That sounds like a recipe for success to me, and you're obviously proving it. I also know that you have a podcast show, and you're busy with radio ministry. Tell us a little bit about that. I want to give a framework for who you are and what your work is, before we talk about your book.

Skip Heitzig: Early on, I saw the value of radio; local radio and national radio. We got involved with local radio stations, worked with them and supported them. I just saw the value of building a church locally through using the means of media in the area. Then we took the program that we produced and we took it out to different markets and different places in the States and saw that it could be a great blessing to people driving to work, in a hospital, at home, etc. Then we thought, it's different than it used to be. People don't listen to something with synchronicity, that is, you don't just have to tune in at 10 a.m. or at a certain time. You can literally do it asynchronously. You can just download a podcast, or go to a website and pick up the show. At your convenience and in your timeframe, you can listen to it. That's what this podcast is all about. A person can listen to it anytime they feel like it. That's the great joy of having media like this. So, we've always been involved in media from early on, so much so that we also own two radio stations, both FM in the area, one's a music station, one's a teaching station. So, we just kind of blanket the area with media.

Dr. Steve Greene: That's outstanding and exciting. Obviously, you do a lot of writing. Before I get to your book, I've got to ask you how you can cover every verse in the Bible regularly because it takes a long time to preach that. How do you do it?

Skip Heitzig: It takes me 11 years, approximately, to do it. So, what I do is I take that kind of teaching and I do that on my midweek study. Then what I'll do is …. I'll still do series, like I'm in the book of Romans. I'll be in the book of Romans for another 32 weeks to get through it. I've been through Revelation and it's taken me a couple years to do it, or John a couple, two and a half years on a Sunday morning. Then I'll mix that up with the shorter series as well. But I take it through the Bible. That's our midweek. We open the book, it's about an hour Bible study, and it's just line upon line, verse by verse. But we feel like the church needs to be able to get the full counsel of God. Something Paul said to the Ephesians after three years, he said I haven't shunned to declare to you the whole counsel of God. I don't think a pastor can honestly say that unless he's taken his people through the Bible. It's something Jay Burnham McGee is to do. And it's something that is been sort of in my spiritual DNA with Chuck Smith. So, it's something I follow.

Dr. Steve Greene: It makes a lot of sense. And as a pastor, I understand it. I just want to sit at your feet, see how you do it. It just takes a lot of time. It sounds like you know exactly what your plan is and how you're going to execute it. So that's great. I want to talk about the greatest message I know that both of us love to preach. You cite it as history hinges on a single pivotal event. Let's talk about Bloodline. What motivated you to write this book? How did you feel called to write Bloodline?

Skip Heitzig: Well, before Bloodline, I wrote a book that really did well, in fact, it was No. 1 for two months in the Christian bookstores Christian market. It was called The Bible From 30,000 Feet. It was like going up high in the air and looking down at the landscape of the Scripture without getting lost in the weeds. I wanted to give the reader a working knowledge of every single book of the Bible just so there was a familiarity with the whole theme of the Bible, but in a nutshell view. So, I did that. But then I took the thought a little bit further. I said, what if I went up higher than 30 thousand feet? What if I went into outer space? If I were to look a little bit higher and look down at the landscape of Scripture, what is the one theme that I would see above all other themes? It was the idea of God's redemptive plan, redemptive history, the bloodline, or as some scholars used to call it, the scarlet thread of redemption that is mentioned beginning in Genesis 3:15 and goes all the way to the book of Revelation. So, I decided, with that in mind, what are the clues? What are the anticipatory texts that talk about this great sacrifice from the Old Testament, what the prophets predicted, anticipated? Of course, they talked about the second coming of Christ, they talked about far more. Since Jesus talked about the fact that he died, according to the Scriptures, was buried according to the Scriptures and was raised according to the Scriptures, I wanted to look at those scriptures and just get that theme, and so I did.

Dr. Steve Greene: So, you make it a point to say in your book that Exodus represents one of the clearest pictures of redemption. Can you make that point for us, to help us understand that?

Skip Heitzig: I'd love to. If you just think of the book of Exodus, the term Exodus means an exit. You're going to leave, and it is about Israel leaving Egypt. They were slaves in Egypt, and they were going to leave. But God gave them something before they left. It was a ritual tied to one of the judgments upon the Egyptians, the death of their firstborn. What God said, you have to take the blood of a lamb and smear it on the lentils and doorpost of every Israelite home. So, deliverance, the shed blood of an innocent victim was tied to their physical deliverance from slavery. That becomes a picture, and it’s such a clear picture that Paul, in First Corinthians 5, refers to Jesus Christ as our Passover because Christ, our Passover, did this, suffered for us. Then the fact that Jesus celebrated the Passover meal with his disciples in an upper room in Jerusalem, and he took the wine that was used at Passover and the familiar bread, and he broke it as every Jewish head of a household did every Passover. But he gave it new meaning. He said, do this in remembrance of me. So, we took the Passover meal, and made it refer to him. Then finally, when Jesus died, he happened to die exactly on Passover Day itself. They had to take him down from the cross because it was the eve of the Passover. So, the fact that Jesus died on Passover, had a Passover meal, said it really is about me. The fact that Paul called Him our Passover, it shows us if you look at the Old Testament book of Exodus through that lens, it becomes very clear that God was painting a picture, or we would say in the movie business, a trailer, a preview of coming attractions.

Connect with Skip Heitzig

·         At connectwithskip.com

·         His broadcasts

·         On Facebook

·         On Twitter

·         On YouTube

 

Greenelines Host Information

Dr. Steve Greene is the Publisher and Executive Vice President of Charisma Media. Dr. Greene received his Ph.D. in marketing from Memphis State University. He has worked in television station management and worked directly with over 80 stations throughout the United States. He has worked in marketing capacities with McDonald’s, Jiffy Lube, and Stanley Steemer. He has owned restaurants, a national advertising agency and a syndicated marketing research firm. Dr. Greene has served as the Dean of the College of Business and professor of marketing at Oral Roberts University. He is also the author of Love Leads, which dispels the myths and misconceptions many have come to accept about leadership.

To learn more about Dr. Steve Greene, connect with him on social media!

Facebook: https://facebook.com/drsgreene/

Twitter: https://twitter.com/DrSteveGreene

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dr.stevegreene/

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Bloodline: Trace God's Rescue Plan From Eden to Eternity With Skip Heitzig