Develop a Habit of Giving Happiness Away with Max Lucado

Develop a Habit of Giving Happiness Away with Max Lucado

Challenge yourself to be happier when you listen to this podcast.

Max Lucado spreads joy with the key to what causes happiness in a world of comparison, disappointment and unmet expectations from his latest book, “How Happiness Happens.” Learn to be a source of strength and happiness to others. Begin your happy journey to reach 100 people in 40 days with the Happy People Challenge.

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Episode Notes

Greenelines with

Dr. Steve Greene

Guest: Max Lucado

Max Lucado spreads joy with the key to what causes happiness in a world of comparison, disappointment and unmet expectations from his latest book, How Happiness Happens. Learn to be a source of strength and happiness to others.

Begin your happy journey to reach 100 people in 40 days with the Happy People Challenge.

Introduction

Dr. Steve Greene: You won't believe the kind of study I want to share with you now. It is the 2019 World Happiness Report. There's a report on anything and there's news about everything, and there's certainly statistics about everything. So, somebody has captured a Happiness Report. And in their survey of 156 countries … I wish they had called me. I could have done that. I would love to have made those visits. America has grown measurably unhappier. We did a research study to figure that one out. America has grown measurably unhappier. I don't know how they measured it, but they measured it because they reported it. That's just over the last seven years. So, think about the kinds of things that have gone on in our country for the last seven years. And, they've come to this conclusion that it's just getting worse.

 

 

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Well, thankfully, we have a man by the name of Pastor Max Lucado in our life who writes the kinds of books that makes America happy, makes the world happier. His books sell great all over the world. I'm privileged and honored. I know, we can say those words and they don't mean as much as I wish they always did. But in this case, Max Lucado is one of my heroes. I've read his books. I'm thinking of his book on fear that really changed the way I thought about life, and many others. And I'm certain all of you have your favorite. So, let's get my guest on the phone line right now and ask him about his favorite book. Pastor Max Lucado, welcome to the Greenelines podcast.

 

Max Lucado on Charisma

·         Max Lucado: ‘I Just Felt Like I Should Say Something’

·         Max Lucado: God Does Not Need Your Help or Advice

·         This Could Be Why God is Resisting You

·         Max Lucado Shares Random Act of Kindness with an Incredible Moral

 

Max Lucado: Well, thank you so much. It's a really unspeakable honor to be with you and thanks for including me on your really successful podcast. I'm so excited how many how many people you're touching on a on a regular basis to this through this audio medium.

 

Pre-order the book: How Happiness Happens: Finding Lasting Joy in a World of Comparison, Disappointment and Unmet Expectations.

 

Dr. Steve Greene: Thank you, pastor. We're excited to and humbled by it and just feel like we've got a burden to deliver really good guests. Thank you for being at the top of the list. So, tell me, what's your favorite book that you've written?

 

Some of Max Lucado’s Books

·         Unshakeable Hope: Building Our Lives on the Promises of God

·         You’ll Get Through This: Hope and Help for Your Turbulent Times

·         Traveling Light

·         Grace: More Than We Deserve, Greater Than We Imagine

·         Facing Your Giants: God Still Does the Impossible

 

Max Lucado: Yeah, that is a hard question. I started writing back in 1985. I've written at least a book a year ever since, sometimes two. And then when you start throwing in the children's books, maybe six books or so a year. So, I've had the honor of writing a lot in my lifetime. I think though, there is one book that I wrote for my children that is very, very significant. To me, it just so happens that it's celebrating its 25th anniversary, and it's going to be re-released this year. It's a children's book called Just in Case You Ever Wonder. I wrote it for my children when they were small. I have three daughters. At that time, they were like, say age five, three, and one. And I wrote a pledge to them … Just in Case You Ever Wonder … your dad is always gonna love you. So, I would have to say, of all the books I've written, the one I wrote for my daughters is the one that's most meaningful to me.

Dr. Steve Greene: That's significant that I would expect you to say that. I could take that out of one of your books, I'm sure. You've got several New York Times best-sellers. That's not an easy list to crack. What's your best-selling book of all time?

Max Lucado: I think this this one I wrote a couple of years ago is on a track to become that if it's not already. It's called Anxious for Nothing. Yes, I saw that book. It deals with this whole situation that we are the most anxious nation on the planet. So, it could be there. If it's not the best-selling ever, it will be soon, and it's only been out a couple of years. I also wrote a children's book called You are Special. It's been translated into many, many languages and is all over the world. That book has touched a lot of lives.

Dr. Steve Greene: So, what was the book that really launched your career? What's the one that kind of broke through?

Max Lucado: What a good question that is. I was in Brazil at the time. I was living in Rio de Janeiro. I was there from 1983 to 1988. I wrote a book that was my first book called On the Anvil. It didn't do that great, but that's OK. I was just so happy to have written a book. But I had an idea for a second book called No Wonder They Call Him the Savior. That book, about the about the day Christ was crucified, really seemed to resonate with people. And Chuck Swindoll took an interest in that book. I think Chuck is 84 now and still preaching. He’s such a great, great man of God. But we're talking what, about 30 or 40 years ago now. He took an interest in it and featured it on his radio program, which has been a wildly successful ministry through the years. That came to be the thing. He kind of put an endorsement on my on my work. I've always been in a debt of gratitude to him for that. And from then on, I seemed to have found a place on the bookshelves.

Dr. Steve Greene: You sure have. I mean, bookstores crave your books. We don't have enough bookstores out there anymore. But it's still the kind of book they know when your name is on it, it's going to sell. People depend on you. And if you could analyze your success as a writer, obviously hearing from the Lord, writing books that you're inspired to write, what do you think is your connecting point to your readers? What is it that you have that they like?

Max Lucado: You're asking such good questions. Well, frankly, everything, of course, begins with the Holy Spirit, right? As He prompts us, initiates our thoughts. I have found that as I have remained in the pulpit all these years, even though I've not drawn a salary from the church for well over 30 years … I’ve remained as our teaching pastor, and I think that's important because that keeps me in contact with people. There would be a tendency to just write books, since that's how I make my living and just live in an office. I as a pastor am still engaged with people. I'm semi-retired now. So, I don't do as many weddings and funerals or have as many counseling appointments as I have forever and ever. But that only began about a year ago, that semi-retirement. So, for all these years, I think what's really been good for me is to stay in the activity of the church … burying people, marrying people, loving the babies, praying for the sick, managing the office staff or leading the staff. My sermons would come out of that ministry, and then the books would come out of the sermons. I have to think that there's maybe this whole idea of trying to write books for people who don't like to read books, that's always been my mantra. I think that decision to stay engaged in local church work has been really a good decision. For me, it sounds like wisdom.

Dr. Steve Greene: Yes, it's wise and it keeps you connected. It’s something about when you see a mess, you can write to how to clean it up.

Max Lucado: There’s nothing wrong with being a circuit-riding preacher and speaker. I've got really good friends whose ministry is just that they accept speaking invitations, or they hold conferences. And that's wonderful. I think that's a powerful thing. For me, I think I need to be challenged to take on new topics and study, dig into things and respond, like the book we're talking about today, How Happiness Happens. It grew out of a sense in my heart. People just aren't happy anymore. They’re grumpy. So, I thought, is that just me, or is that true? I began to research it and found some statistics that bear that out … the kind of statistic you started the program with. We're just not as happy as we used to be. So, then I thought, OK, well, what can I do about it. I created this sermon series for the church on how happiness happens. And out of that came the book. So, that simple process, I think, has kept me in contact with where people are.

Dr. Steve Greene: You mentioned the book title; it's How Happiness Happens: Finding Lasting Joy in a World of Comparison, Disappointment and Unmet Expectations. Let's take those three on pastor … just thinking about how we live a comparison life, we're disappointed, and we don't reach our expectations. Have that for breakfast. Let's deal with that topic.

Max Lucado: That's the kind of world we live in. We cannot overestimate the impact that social media has had, especially on younger people, but on all of us. This world of comparison. I read the other day that Instagram is seriously considering removing the feature that tells how many people have viewed or liked your Instagram post because they're concerned about the impact that it's having on people. I think that's a valid concern. We take a picture of ourselves at our very best, posing on a Hawaii beach, and you send it out, like that's our typical representative life. The fact of the matter is, it's not. That’s just freeze-framing a very positive moment. But then somebody in the dead of winter in Kansas sees that Instagram posts and says, well, my life's not as good as theirs, and they immediately have a downward spiral. We’ve got to get that under control, we cannot let ourselves be have our happiness at the whim of society. You were right at the outset of your program. You referred to a study. I've got several studies I refer to in this book, one of which is the happiness index that the Harris Poll has conducted over the last decade, In the history of the Harris Poll, the highest we have ever been is 35 percent. In other words, only 35 percent of people in the United States could say they're genuinely happy, even if they themselves are the ones who define happiness, only 35 percent. And now, by last year, the happiness index has been dipped to the lowest ever. In other words, there's a perpetual grayness that overshadows two out of three people. By some estimates, clinical depression is 10 times more rampant than it was a century ago. We've got a serious situation going on around us, and that is we don't know how to be happy. Imagine the consequences of that. I won't take time to dig into all the research I share in this book, but it affects our marriages, it affects our physical health, it affects our pocketbooks. Did you know happier people make more money.? It shouldn't surprise us. But we think if I make more money, I'll be happy. Just the opposite is the case. If I'm happy, I'm going to be more productive, I'm going to generate more sales, or I'm going to be a source of strength to my team. So, I have a lot to gain. If I can crack the code on how to be happy. There is a big benefit to being happy.

Dr. Steve Greene: Well, I think your subtitle gets to some of the issues of what makes us unhappy. One of the ways of being happy, I think, is to remove the stressors, remove the things that tend to frustrate us and make us unhappy as the list you've got, your brief list of comparisons and the disappointments in life. And then again, those expectations of how people will treat me Here’s something about social media. Why did I only get six likes to that picture? I thought I put up something really beautiful and it was my kid and they're riding their tricycles.

Max Lucado: It’s crazy. You see, what has happened is we have allowed our happiness to be dictated by other people. In the book, I talked about how Jesus teaches us to take the opposite approach, and that is happiness is not determined by how many people like me or make me happy. Happiness is not determined by what car I drive or how trendy my clothing is. Happiness is not determined by how soon I can retire, or achieving what that for which I aspire. Happiness, according to Jesus, happens when I give it away. He said, it's better to give than receive. So, the simple truth of the matter is that happiness happens when I make other people happy. It is absolutely that simple. Happiness happens when I make other people happy. I think that's why the verses in the Bible are so important that we call the one another verses: serve one another, forgive one another, encourage one another, admonish one another. This whole book is built around those one another verses. They're super practical, day-to-day tools that can help me give happiness away. And as I learn to give happiness away, I discover happiness in my own life.

 

Connect with Max Lucado

·         At maxlucado.com

·         On Facebook

·         On Twitter

·         On Instagram

 

Greenelines Host Information

Dr. Steve Greene is the Publisher and Executive Vice President of Charisma Media. Dr. Greene received his Ph.D. in marketing from Memphis State University. He has worked in television station management and worked directly with over 80 stations throughout the United States. He has worked in marketing capacities with McDonald’s, Jiffy Lube, and Stanley Steemer. He has owned restaurants, a national advertising agency and a syndicated marketing research firm. Dr. Greene has served as the Dean of the College of Business and professor of marketing at Oral Roberts University. He is also the author of Love Leads, which dispels the myths and misconceptions many have come to accept about leadership.

To learn more about Dr. Steve Greene, connect with him on social media!

Facebook: https://facebook.com/drsgreene/

Twitter: https://twitter.com/DrSteveGreene

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dr.stevegreene/

Episode Notes

Greenelines with

Dr. Steve Greene

Guest: Max Lucado

Max Lucado spreads joy with the key to what causes happiness in a world of comparison, disappointment and unmet expectations from his latest book, How Happiness Happens. Learn to be a source of strength and happiness to others.

Begin your happy journey to reach 100 people in 40 days with the Happy People Challenge.

Introduction

Dr. Steve Greene: You won't believe the kind of study I want to share with you now. It is the 2019 World Happiness Report. There's a report on anything and there's news about everything, and there's certainly statistics about everything. So, somebody has captured a Happiness Report. And in their survey of 156 countries … I wish they had called me. I could have done that. I would love to have made those visits. America has grown measurably unhappier. We did a research study to figure that one out. America has grown measurably unhappier. I don't know how they measured it, but they measured it because they reported it. That's just over the last seven years. So, think about the kinds of things that have gone on in our country for the last seven years. And, they've come to this conclusion that it's just getting worse.

 

 

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Well, thankfully, we have a man by the name of Pastor Max Lucado in our life who writes the kinds of books that makes America happy, makes the world happier. His books sell great all over the world. I'm privileged and honored. I know, we can say those words and they don't mean as much as I wish they always did. But in this case, Max Lucado is one of my heroes. I've read his books. I'm thinking of his book on fear that really changed the way I thought about life, and many others. And I'm certain all of you have your favorite. So, let's get my guest on the phone line right now and ask him about his favorite book. Pastor Max Lucado, welcome to the Greenelines podcast.

 

Max Lucado on Charisma

·         Max Lucado: ‘I Just Felt Like I Should Say Something’

·         Max Lucado: God Does Not Need Your Help or Advice

·         This Could Be Why God is Resisting You

·         Max Lucado Shares Random Act of Kindness with an Incredible Moral

 

Max Lucado: Well, thank you so much. It's a really unspeakable honor to be with you and thanks for including me on your really successful podcast. I'm so excited how many how many people you're touching on a on a regular basis to this through this audio medium.

 

Pre-order the book: How Happiness Happens: Finding Lasting Joy in a World of Comparison, Disappointment and Unmet Expectations.

 

Dr. Steve Greene: Thank you, pastor. We're excited to and humbled by it and just feel like we've got a burden to deliver really good guests. Thank you for being at the top of the list. So, tell me, what's your favorite book that you've written?

 

Some of Max Lucado’s Books

·         Unshakeable Hope: Building Our Lives on the Promises of God

·         You’ll Get Through This: Hope and Help for Your Turbulent Times

·         Traveling Light

·         Grace: More Than We Deserve, Greater Than We Imagine

·         Facing Your Giants: God Still Does the Impossible

 

Max Lucado: Yeah, that is a hard question. I started writing back in 1985. I've written at least a book a year ever since, sometimes two. And then when you start throwing in the children's books, maybe six books or so a year. So, I've had the honor of writing a lot in my lifetime. I think though, there is one book that I wrote for my children that is very, very significant. To me, it just so happens that it's celebrating its 25th anniversary, and it's going to be re-released this year. It's a children's book called Just in Case You Ever Wonder. I wrote it for my children when they were small. I have three daughters. At that time, they were like, say age five, three, and one. And I wrote a pledge to them … Just in Case You Ever Wonder … your dad is always gonna love you. So, I would have to say, of all the books I've written, the one I wrote for my daughters is the one that's most meaningful to me.

Dr. Steve Greene: That's significant that I would expect you to say that. I could take that out of one of your books, I'm sure. You've got several New York Times best-sellers. That's not an easy list to crack. What's your best-selling book of all time?

Max Lucado: I think this this one I wrote a couple of years ago is on a track to become that if it's not already. It's called Anxious for Nothing. Yes, I saw that book. It deals with this whole situation that we are the most anxious nation on the planet. So, it could be there. If it's not the best-selling ever, it will be soon, and it's only been out a couple of years. I also wrote a children's book called You are Special. It's been translated into many, many languages and is all over the world. That book has touched a lot of lives.

Dr. Steve Greene: So, what was the book that really launched your career? What's the one that kind of broke through?

Max Lucado: What a good question that is. I was in Brazil at the time. I was living in Rio de Janeiro. I was there from 1983 to 1988. I wrote a book that was my first book called On the Anvil. It didn't do that great, but that's OK. I was just so happy to have written a book. But I had an idea for a second book called No Wonder They Call Him the Savior. That book, about the about the day Christ was crucified, really seemed to resonate with people. And Chuck Swindoll took an interest in that book. I think Chuck is 84 now and still preaching. He’s such a great, great man of God. But we're talking what, about 30 or 40 years ago now. He took an interest in it and featured it on his radio program, which has been a wildly successful ministry through the years. That came to be the thing. He kind of put an endorsement on my on my work. I've always been in a debt of gratitude to him for that. And from then on, I seemed to have found a place on the bookshelves.

Dr. Steve Greene: You sure have. I mean, bookstores crave your books. We don't have enough bookstores out there anymore. But it's still the kind of book they know when your name is on it, it's going to sell. People depend on you. And if you could analyze your success as a writer, obviously hearing from the Lord, writing books that you're inspired to write, what do you think is your connecting point to your readers? What is it that you have that they like?

Max Lucado: You're asking such good questions. Well, frankly, everything, of course, begins with the Holy Spirit, right? As He prompts us, initiates our thoughts. I have found that as I have remained in the pulpit all these years, even though I've not drawn a salary from the church for well over 30 years … I’ve remained as our teaching pastor, and I think that's important because that keeps me in contact with people. There would be a tendency to just write books, since that's how I make my living and just live in an office. I as a pastor am still engaged with people. I'm semi-retired now. So, I don't do as many weddings and funerals or have as many counseling appointments as I have forever and ever. But that only began about a year ago, that semi-retirement. So, for all these years, I think what's really been good for me is to stay in the activity of the church … burying people, marrying people, loving the babies, praying for the sick, managing the office staff or leading the staff. My sermons would come out of that ministry, and then the books would come out of the sermons. I have to think that there's maybe this whole idea of trying to write books for people who don't like to read books, that's always been my mantra. I think that decision to stay engaged in local church work has been really a good decision. For me, it sounds like wisdom.

Dr. Steve Greene: Yes, it's wise and it keeps you connected. It’s something about when you see a mess, you can write to how to clean it up.

Max Lucado: There’s nothing wrong with being a circuit-riding preacher and speaker. I've got really good friends whose ministry is just that they accept speaking invitations, or they hold conferences. And that's wonderful. I think that's a powerful thing. For me, I think I need to be challenged to take on new topics and study, dig into things and respond, like the book we're talking about today, How Happiness Happens. It grew out of a sense in my heart. People just aren't happy anymore. They’re grumpy. So, I thought, is that just me, or is that true? I began to research it and found some statistics that bear that out … the kind of statistic you started the program with. We're just not as happy as we used to be. So, then I thought, OK, well, what can I do about it. I created this sermon series for the church on how happiness happens. And out of that came the book. So, that simple process, I think, has kept me in contact with where people are.

Dr. Steve Greene: You mentioned the book title; it's How Happiness Happens: Finding Lasting Joy in a World of Comparison, Disappointment and Unmet Expectations. Let's take those three on pastor … just thinking about how we live a comparison life, we're disappointed, and we don't reach our expectations. Have that for breakfast. Let's deal with that topic.

Max Lucado: That's the kind of world we live in. We cannot overestimate the impact that social media has had, especially on younger people, but on all of us. This world of comparison. I read the other day that Instagram is seriously considering removing the feature that tells how many people have viewed or liked your Instagram post because they're concerned about the impact that it's having on people. I think that's a valid concern. We take a picture of ourselves at our very best, posing on a Hawaii beach, and you send it out, like that's our typical representative life. The fact of the matter is, it's not. That’s just freeze-framing a very positive moment. But then somebody in the dead of winter in Kansas sees that Instagram posts and says, well, my life's not as good as theirs, and they immediately have a downward spiral. We’ve got to get that under control, we cannot let ourselves be have our happiness at the whim of society. You were right at the outset of your program. You referred to a study. I've got several studies I refer to in this book, one of which is the happiness index that the Harris Poll has conducted over the last decade, In the history of the Harris Poll, the highest we have ever been is 35 percent. In other words, only 35 percent of people in the United States could say they're genuinely happy, even if they themselves are the ones who define happiness, only 35 percent. And now, by last year, the happiness index has been dipped to the lowest ever. In other words, there's a perpetual grayness that overshadows two out of three people. By some estimates, clinical depression is 10 times more rampant than it was a century ago. We've got a serious situation going on around us, and that is we don't know how to be happy. Imagine the consequences of that. I won't take time to dig into all the research I share in this book, but it affects our marriages, it affects our physical health, it affects our pocketbooks. Did you know happier people make more money.? It shouldn't surprise us. But we think if I make more money, I'll be happy. Just the opposite is the case. If I'm happy, I'm going to be more productive, I'm going to generate more sales, or I'm going to be a source of strength to my team. So, I have a lot to gain. If I can crack the code on how to be happy. There is a big benefit to being happy.

Dr. Steve Greene: Well, I think your subtitle gets to some of the issues of what makes us unhappy. One of the ways of being happy, I think, is to remove the stressors, remove the things that tend to frustrate us and make us unhappy as the list you've got, your brief list of comparisons and the disappointments in life. And then again, those expectations of how people will treat me Here’s something about social media. Why did I only get six likes to that picture? I thought I put up something really beautiful and it was my kid and they're riding their tricycles.

Max Lucado: It’s crazy. You see, what has happened is we have allowed our happiness to be dictated by other people. In the book, I talked about how Jesus teaches us to take the opposite approach, and that is happiness is not determined by how many people like me or make me happy. Happiness is not determined by what car I drive or how trendy my clothing is. Happiness is not determined by how soon I can retire, or achieving what that for which I aspire. Happiness, according to Jesus, happens when I give it away. He said, it's better to give than receive. So, the simple truth of the matter is that happiness happens when I make other people happy. It is absolutely that simple. Happiness happens when I make other people happy. I think that's why the verses in the Bible are so important that we call the one another verses: serve one another, forgive one another, encourage one another, admonish one another. This whole book is built around those one another verses. They're super practical, day-to-day tools that can help me give happiness away. And as I learn to give happiness away, I discover happiness in my own life.

 

Connect with Max Lucado

·         At maxlucado.com

·         On Facebook

·         On Twitter

·         On Instagram

 

Greenelines Host Information

Dr. Steve Greene is the Publisher and Executive Vice President of Charisma Media. Dr. Greene received his Ph.D. in marketing from Memphis State University. He has worked in television station management and worked directly with over 80 stations throughout the United States. He has worked in marketing capacities with McDonald’s, Jiffy Lube, and Stanley Steemer. He has owned restaurants, a national advertising agency and a syndicated marketing research firm. Dr. Greene has served as the Dean of the College of Business and professor of marketing at Oral Roberts University. He is also the author of Love Leads, which dispels the myths and misconceptions many have come to accept about leadership.

To learn more about Dr. Steve Greene, connect with him on social media!

Facebook: https://facebook.com/drsgreene/

Twitter: https://twitter.com/DrSteveGreene

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dr.stevegreene/

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