Climb Every Mountain with Trudy Cathy White (Season 5, Ep. 30)

Climb Every Mountain with Trudy Cathy White (Season 5, Ep. 30)

What is the most difficult spiritual mountain you face? Before you give up on it, learn how God is with you every step.

Trudy Cathy White, daughter of S. Truett Cathy the founder of Chick-fil-A, shares her story of the mountains she climbed in her life. Hear how she stepped up to the challenge of running her own restaurant at age 19, climbed through marriage and motherhood, then grieved the loss of her parents. Cathy's new book, "Climb Every Mount," teaches you God is Faithful in the journey of life. Listen to now to keep your eyes focused on the Lord.

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Episode Notes

Greenelines with

Dr. Steve Greene

Guest: Trudy Cathy White

 

What is the most difficult spiritual mountain you face? Before you give up on it, learn how God is with you every step.

Trudy Cathy White, daughter of Truett Cathy, the founder of Chick-fil-A, shares her story of the mountains she climbed in her life. Hear how she stepped up to the challenge of running her own restaurant at age 19, climbed through marriage and motherhood, then grieved the loss of her parents. Cathy's new book, Climb Every Mountain, teaches you God is faithful in the journey of life.

Introduction

 

Professor Doris Kearns Goodwin published another book last year titled Leadership in Turbulent Times. She was sort of on a mission to find out how Abraham Lincoln, Teddy and Franklin Roosevelt and Lyndon Johnson … how they all led through the many obstacles that they faced. So, she was trying to find out what it was that they had in common in their presidency. It wasn't easy writing for Professor Goodwin, to say the least. She researched the traditional markers of good leadership and found that each president had their own unique strengths and weaknesses, and she couldn't find a real common ground. But she did stumble across one identifying feature. She called it a key factor that most leadership books fail to list as a trait or a marker. She wrote, the leading factor in the production of the best leaders is a word called ambition. Ambition carries a negative connotation for some, but in the context of crisis management, ambition is the key factor to successful outcomes. Great leaders are ambitious about their ascent from a valley. Mountain climbers have a way of reaching their summit because of a driving sense to keep climbing. Every step is difficult and rich with opportunities to stumble and fall. But special leaders have a unique pilot light that fuels their ambition to climb and climb and never give up.

 

I'm excited to introduce my guest today. Trudy Cathy White, who's about to release her new book, Climb Every Mountain. It's coming out on February 15. Every time I say the title Climb Every Mountain, I'm just ready to start singing. That may identify my age a little bit. Her name may sound familiar to you. She's the daughter of Truett Cathy, who was the founder of Chick fil-A. Her biggest mountain to climb, I think, without talking with her, was the operation of her own restaurant. And, of course, her mission work in Brazil with her husband, John. Together, they co-founded Life Shape and Impact 360 Institute. She's a wife and mother of four and grandmother of 15. So, I'd like to welcome to the podcast this mountain climber. So, I gotta ask this question because everybody wants to know. Did your children grow up on chicken nuggets?

 

Trudy Cathy White Bio

·         The only daughter of Truett and Jeannette Cathy, founders of Chick-fil-A

·         At 19, ran a new Chick-fil-A restaurant in Birmingham, Ala., at the time making her the youngest operator of a Chick-fil-A

·         Served as a missionary in Brazil

·         Founders of Lifeshape, an organization committed to supporting various initiatives throughout the world; and Impact 360 Institute

 

Trudy Cathy White: Chicken? That's, that's for sure. We used to laugh when I was little. My dad would say you hadn't eaten enough if you're not growing feathers yet. So, I guess we'll just have to keep on eating.

 

Dr. Steve Greene: That's good marketing language. That's too good. I'm going to get this out of the way first. I want to focus on you and not just what you learned from your dad because it'd be so easy to talk about him. There's so much out there about him and so little about you and I want our audience to know you and this great book you've written. So, the question I'd like to ask you that the deals with your father is what you learned from him and your mother that shaped you as one who could climb mountains.

 

Trudy Cathy White: My parents have been tremendous role models for me growing up. I would I would say that growing up was really fun. My parents loved the Lord and they loved each other. So that laid a really solid foundation for us growing up. I believe some of the things that keys things that my parents taught me growing up, particularly relating to our faith is the fact that

 

everything we have comes from the Lord. That has been tremendous for us to recognize the fact the Bible says the Lord owns at all and so we have merely been trying to be stewards of all that God has entrusted to us. I'm so grateful for parents that always pointed us to the Lord. They’ve also reminded us to know the important things of life you can't buy with dollars and cents. I'm always looking for real love and real joy and happiness and hope. Those can only be found, I know those can only be found through a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. So tremendous that our parents helped us understand that from a very, very young age in our life that our dependency really is on the Lord.

 

Trudy Cathy White Books

·         Climb Every Mountain

·         Along the Way

 

Dr. Steve Greene: If I read, right, you grew up in a farm environment, correct?

 

Trudy Cathy White: Yes, south of Atlanta. Actually, we were close enough to the city we could go and enjoy it, but we could pull out away from it. I'm actually talking with you from my home and just looking out across the pasture land. It’s a beautiful view today.

 

Dr. Steve Greene: I'd like to talk about your book. Again, I'm impressed by it. I love the message of mountain climbing. It's something I think all of our audience will identify with. So how did God lead you to write this book? And what's your core message?

 

Trudy Cathy White: I actually was inspired to write this book shortly after my mom and dad passed away. I think it was a really heavy time for me in my life, realizing this is a huge mountain to have lost both mom and dad. It was going to be quite different. I thought, I'd love to write a book to be able to encourage other people to realize that we all have personal challenges in our life. But my goal was to try to inspire others to realize that no matter what mountain you face or how steep a decline, you can always find God faithful on the journey. That's really been my story. Mountains have inspired me from the time I was very young. I went off to summer camps in North Carolina and enjoyed the beauty of the mountains there. My husband and I and our family served as missionaries to Rio De Janeiro Brazil. Of course, Rio's a beautiful city. If you watched the Olympics a few years ago, you saw all the mountains that are there in Rio. More recently, we have built this little small cabin up in North Georgia. This is a place to kind of get away. Actually, it’s the place where I wrote a lot of a lot of this book. And any time look out at mountains, I actually see in those mountains God's character and life's challenges. God's character is unchanging. His presence is always with us. They are a symbol of God's strength. But at the same time, I looked at it and those same mountains and I think, boy, life is hard and it seems like no matter who you are or what you have or who you're related to, there are always challenges that that we're going to encounter in life.

 

Dr. Steve Greene: Your parents lived a long life, didn’t they?

 

Trudy Cathy White: Yes, we were very fortunate. My dad died at the age of 93. He never retired. My mom was 92. So, we were very, very blessed. I have two brothers and the three of us are very blessed to have had our parents around all those years.

 

Dr. Steve Greene: So, they scripted and had great impact on your children as well, then?

 

Trudy Cathy White: A tremendous impact on our children, their grandchildren and great grandchildren. So many of them remember them well, and my mom especially impacted our family. She actually was the spiritual nurturer of our family. She was the walk. She was our cheerleader. Any one of us would say today that had not been for the influence of my mom, we're not sure Chick Fil-A would be what it is today. But of course, most people who knew my dad that she was super supportive of my dad and his work, his long hours, to the end that she invested heavily in his children. And the result of that God has used it to bless many generations down the line.

 

Dr. Steve Greene: Well, anyone who's ever been in the restaurant business knows that there better be a good wife behind a man who's in the restaurant, right? And then, of course, there's that unfortunate condition where your husband and the wife both own the restaurant together. That’s tough. I drove my children out of the restaurant successfully. They decided they didn't want to do it.

 

Trudy Cathy White: It's hard work. You've got to be, you've got to really be committed. My dad actually opened his first restaurant in 1946, he was just 25 years old. He was single, he never did really well in school. He discovered if he could earn a quarter doing core chores around the house, he could stop the coke man and the coke truck and buy about six bottles of coke for a quarter. Then you turn around and fill each one of those bottles for a nickel apiece and recognize the profit. So, he got more excited over than he did about going school. So finally, he was able to finish high school and open this little restaurant and then a few years later got married. My mom served as a waitress in the restaurant. And then of course, when children came along, I feel like my second home was in the kitchen in my dad’s restaurant; my brothers and I grew up there. We did our homework back in the kitchen. We picked up trash in the parking lot. We could practice taking care of some of the customers. One of the great things about a family business is the family is involved. And we had the joy of watching my dad, and he demonstrated a strong work ethic. He treated his employees and staff members just as if they were family and really wanted our customers to be treated as honored guests. So, we grew up watching him model that for us.

 

Dr. Steve Greene: Well, there's a lot of life lessons that we learned in the kitchen and certainly working in customer service. You can't learn it any better than that. So, I want to get focused back on you and your book. This book is so powerful. I don't want to miss your message. So, tell me what your most difficult spiritual mountain has been in your life.

 

Trudy Cathy White: I've had a lot of living. It's hard to identify. But I’ve got two. I start my book on those chapters. A chapter of identity, just understanding who I am. When I was growing up, my mom always had this habit of standing at the back door of when we would leave; when we leave for school, when we leave for an event in the evening or whatever, she’d stand at the back door and almost without fail, she would look at us, her children, and she would say, remember who you are and whose you are. That stuck with me through life. Now, having been a wife, a mother, an author and a speaker, I realize the fact that that is the key to my identity, a real memory of who I am. My value is determined by who Jesus created me to be. And so getting comfortable in my own skin and realizing the fact that I appear only because of the Creator that made me. It was the fact that He purchased me the with the precious blood of Jesus Christ by dying on the cross. So, that has made all the difference in our world. The other challenge for me has been the loss of my parents. Losses are tough to go through. A lot of people experience loss; not just death but a loss in relationship is challenging, a loss of a job, just a change of jobs can be devastating to us. And definitely the loss when you've experienced the death of someone that you love or someone you're close to … the journey of grief, it's real, and the climb is steep. So, I think that's been a challenge for me. But it's one of the great things about you need these challenges is I've realized the fact that I don't take them alone. God is right there because the Bible says in this world, you're going to have troubles and trials, and that's for sure. I think we can all attest to that. But if you read on, Jesus says don't be afraid. Don't be dismayed because I am with you every step of the way. That's so encouraging to me.

 

For the rest of Dr. Greene’s interview with Trudy Cathy White, visit cpnshows.com.

 

Greenelines Host Information

Dr. Steve Greene is the Publisher and Executive Vice President of Charisma Media. Dr. Greene received his Ph.D. in marketing from Memphis State University. He has worked in television station management and worked directly with over 80 stations throughout the United States. He has worked in marketing capacities with McDonald’s, Jiffy Lube, and Stanley Steemer. He has owned restaurants, a national advertising agency and a syndicated marketing research firm. Dr. Greene has served as the Dean of the College of Business and professor of marketing at Oral Roberts University. He is also the author of Love Leads, which dispels the myths and misconceptions many have come to accept about leadership.

To learn more about Dr. Steve Greene, connect with him on social media!

Facebook: https://facebook.com/drsgreene/

Twitter: https://twitter.com/DrSteveGreene

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dr.stevegreene/

 

email: greenelines@charismamedia.com

Episode Notes

Greenelines with

Dr. Steve Greene

Guest: Trudy Cathy White

 

What is the most difficult spiritual mountain you face? Before you give up on it, learn how God is with you every step.

Trudy Cathy White, daughter of Truett Cathy, the founder of Chick-fil-A, shares her story of the mountains she climbed in her life. Hear how she stepped up to the challenge of running her own restaurant at age 19, climbed through marriage and motherhood, then grieved the loss of her parents. Cathy's new book, Climb Every Mountain, teaches you God is faithful in the journey of life.

Introduction

 

Professor Doris Kearns Goodwin published another book last year titled Leadership in Turbulent Times. She was sort of on a mission to find out how Abraham Lincoln, Teddy and Franklin Roosevelt and Lyndon Johnson … how they all led through the many obstacles that they faced. So, she was trying to find out what it was that they had in common in their presidency. It wasn't easy writing for Professor Goodwin, to say the least. She researched the traditional markers of good leadership and found that each president had their own unique strengths and weaknesses, and she couldn't find a real common ground. But she did stumble across one identifying feature. She called it a key factor that most leadership books fail to list as a trait or a marker. She wrote, the leading factor in the production of the best leaders is a word called ambition. Ambition carries a negative connotation for some, but in the context of crisis management, ambition is the key factor to successful outcomes. Great leaders are ambitious about their ascent from a valley. Mountain climbers have a way of reaching their summit because of a driving sense to keep climbing. Every step is difficult and rich with opportunities to stumble and fall. But special leaders have a unique pilot light that fuels their ambition to climb and climb and never give up.

 

I'm excited to introduce my guest today. Trudy Cathy White, who's about to release her new book, Climb Every Mountain. It's coming out on February 15. Every time I say the title Climb Every Mountain, I'm just ready to start singing. That may identify my age a little bit. Her name may sound familiar to you. She's the daughter of Truett Cathy, who was the founder of Chick fil-A. Her biggest mountain to climb, I think, without talking with her, was the operation of her own restaurant. And, of course, her mission work in Brazil with her husband, John. Together, they co-founded Life Shape and Impact 360 Institute. She's a wife and mother of four and grandmother of 15. So, I'd like to welcome to the podcast this mountain climber. So, I gotta ask this question because everybody wants to know. Did your children grow up on chicken nuggets?

 

Trudy Cathy White Bio

·         The only daughter of Truett and Jeannette Cathy, founders of Chick-fil-A

·         At 19, ran a new Chick-fil-A restaurant in Birmingham, Ala., at the time making her the youngest operator of a Chick-fil-A

·         Served as a missionary in Brazil

·         Founders of Lifeshape, an organization committed to supporting various initiatives throughout the world; and Impact 360 Institute

 

Trudy Cathy White: Chicken? That's, that's for sure. We used to laugh when I was little. My dad would say you hadn't eaten enough if you're not growing feathers yet. So, I guess we'll just have to keep on eating.

 

Dr. Steve Greene: That's good marketing language. That's too good. I'm going to get this out of the way first. I want to focus on you and not just what you learned from your dad because it'd be so easy to talk about him. There's so much out there about him and so little about you and I want our audience to know you and this great book you've written. So, the question I'd like to ask you that the deals with your father is what you learned from him and your mother that shaped you as one who could climb mountains.

 

Trudy Cathy White: My parents have been tremendous role models for me growing up. I would I would say that growing up was really fun. My parents loved the Lord and they loved each other. So that laid a really solid foundation for us growing up. I believe some of the things that keys things that my parents taught me growing up, particularly relating to our faith is the fact that

 

everything we have comes from the Lord. That has been tremendous for us to recognize the fact the Bible says the Lord owns at all and so we have merely been trying to be stewards of all that God has entrusted to us. I'm so grateful for parents that always pointed us to the Lord. They’ve also reminded us to know the important things of life you can't buy with dollars and cents. I'm always looking for real love and real joy and happiness and hope. Those can only be found, I know those can only be found through a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. So tremendous that our parents helped us understand that from a very, very young age in our life that our dependency really is on the Lord.

 

Trudy Cathy White Books

·         Climb Every Mountain

·         Along the Way

 

Dr. Steve Greene: If I read, right, you grew up in a farm environment, correct?

 

Trudy Cathy White: Yes, south of Atlanta. Actually, we were close enough to the city we could go and enjoy it, but we could pull out away from it. I'm actually talking with you from my home and just looking out across the pasture land. It’s a beautiful view today.

 

Dr. Steve Greene: I'd like to talk about your book. Again, I'm impressed by it. I love the message of mountain climbing. It's something I think all of our audience will identify with. So how did God lead you to write this book? And what's your core message?

 

Trudy Cathy White: I actually was inspired to write this book shortly after my mom and dad passed away. I think it was a really heavy time for me in my life, realizing this is a huge mountain to have lost both mom and dad. It was going to be quite different. I thought, I'd love to write a book to be able to encourage other people to realize that we all have personal challenges in our life. But my goal was to try to inspire others to realize that no matter what mountain you face or how steep a decline, you can always find God faithful on the journey. That's really been my story. Mountains have inspired me from the time I was very young. I went off to summer camps in North Carolina and enjoyed the beauty of the mountains there. My husband and I and our family served as missionaries to Rio De Janeiro Brazil. Of course, Rio's a beautiful city. If you watched the Olympics a few years ago, you saw all the mountains that are there in Rio. More recently, we have built this little small cabin up in North Georgia. This is a place to kind of get away. Actually, it’s the place where I wrote a lot of a lot of this book. And any time look out at mountains, I actually see in those mountains God's character and life's challenges. God's character is unchanging. His presence is always with us. They are a symbol of God's strength. But at the same time, I looked at it and those same mountains and I think, boy, life is hard and it seems like no matter who you are or what you have or who you're related to, there are always challenges that that we're going to encounter in life.

 

Dr. Steve Greene: Your parents lived a long life, didn’t they?

 

Trudy Cathy White: Yes, we were very fortunate. My dad died at the age of 93. He never retired. My mom was 92. So, we were very, very blessed. I have two brothers and the three of us are very blessed to have had our parents around all those years.

 

Dr. Steve Greene: So, they scripted and had great impact on your children as well, then?

 

Trudy Cathy White: A tremendous impact on our children, their grandchildren and great grandchildren. So many of them remember them well, and my mom especially impacted our family. She actually was the spiritual nurturer of our family. She was the walk. She was our cheerleader. Any one of us would say today that had not been for the influence of my mom, we're not sure Chick Fil-A would be what it is today. But of course, most people who knew my dad that she was super supportive of my dad and his work, his long hours, to the end that she invested heavily in his children. And the result of that God has used it to bless many generations down the line.

 

Dr. Steve Greene: Well, anyone who's ever been in the restaurant business knows that there better be a good wife behind a man who's in the restaurant, right? And then, of course, there's that unfortunate condition where your husband and the wife both own the restaurant together. That’s tough. I drove my children out of the restaurant successfully. They decided they didn't want to do it.

 

Trudy Cathy White: It's hard work. You've got to be, you've got to really be committed. My dad actually opened his first restaurant in 1946, he was just 25 years old. He was single, he never did really well in school. He discovered if he could earn a quarter doing core chores around the house, he could stop the coke man and the coke truck and buy about six bottles of coke for a quarter. Then you turn around and fill each one of those bottles for a nickel apiece and recognize the profit. So, he got more excited over than he did about going school. So finally, he was able to finish high school and open this little restaurant and then a few years later got married. My mom served as a waitress in the restaurant. And then of course, when children came along, I feel like my second home was in the kitchen in my dad’s restaurant; my brothers and I grew up there. We did our homework back in the kitchen. We picked up trash in the parking lot. We could practice taking care of some of the customers. One of the great things about a family business is the family is involved. And we had the joy of watching my dad, and he demonstrated a strong work ethic. He treated his employees and staff members just as if they were family and really wanted our customers to be treated as honored guests. So, we grew up watching him model that for us.

 

Dr. Steve Greene: Well, there's a lot of life lessons that we learned in the kitchen and certainly working in customer service. You can't learn it any better than that. So, I want to get focused back on you and your book. This book is so powerful. I don't want to miss your message. So, tell me what your most difficult spiritual mountain has been in your life.

 

Trudy Cathy White: I've had a lot of living. It's hard to identify. But I’ve got two. I start my book on those chapters. A chapter of identity, just understanding who I am. When I was growing up, my mom always had this habit of standing at the back door of when we would leave; when we leave for school, when we leave for an event in the evening or whatever, she’d stand at the back door and almost without fail, she would look at us, her children, and she would say, remember who you are and whose you are. That stuck with me through life. Now, having been a wife, a mother, an author and a speaker, I realize the fact that that is the key to my identity, a real memory of who I am. My value is determined by who Jesus created me to be. And so getting comfortable in my own skin and realizing the fact that I appear only because of the Creator that made me. It was the fact that He purchased me the with the precious blood of Jesus Christ by dying on the cross. So, that has made all the difference in our world. The other challenge for me has been the loss of my parents. Losses are tough to go through. A lot of people experience loss; not just death but a loss in relationship is challenging, a loss of a job, just a change of jobs can be devastating to us. And definitely the loss when you've experienced the death of someone that you love or someone you're close to … the journey of grief, it's real, and the climb is steep. So, I think that's been a challenge for me. But it's one of the great things about you need these challenges is I've realized the fact that I don't take them alone. God is right there because the Bible says in this world, you're going to have troubles and trials, and that's for sure. I think we can all attest to that. But if you read on, Jesus says don't be afraid. Don't be dismayed because I am with you every step of the way. That's so encouraging to me.

 

For the rest of Dr. Greene’s interview with Trudy Cathy White, visit cpnshows.com.

 

Greenelines Host Information

Dr. Steve Greene is the Publisher and Executive Vice President of Charisma Media. Dr. Greene received his Ph.D. in marketing from Memphis State University. He has worked in television station management and worked directly with over 80 stations throughout the United States. He has worked in marketing capacities with McDonald’s, Jiffy Lube, and Stanley Steemer. He has owned restaurants, a national advertising agency and a syndicated marketing research firm. Dr. Greene has served as the Dean of the College of Business and professor of marketing at Oral Roberts University. He is also the author of Love Leads, which dispels the myths and misconceptions many have come to accept about leadership.

To learn more about Dr. Steve Greene, connect with him on social media!

Facebook: https://facebook.com/drsgreene/

Twitter: https://twitter.com/DrSteveGreene

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dr.stevegreene/

 

email: greenelines@charismamedia.com

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Climb Every Mountain with Trudy Cathy White (Season 5, Ep. 30)