Defeat the Enemy with Phil Hopper (Season 5, Ep. 34)

Defeat the Enemy with Phil Hopper (Season 5, Ep. 34)

Expose and overcome the strategies of Satan. From police officer serving as a SWAT team member to pastor, Phil Hopper offers a unique perspective on how to get the upper hand on Satan and his demons. It starts with gathering intel.

In his new book, " Defeating the Enemy," Hopper lays out a theological foundation and then offers practical application. Listen to learn why your bondage is directed to your hurt and brokenness.

43 Minutes • 5 months ago

Episode Notes

Greenelines with

Dr. Steve Greene

Guest: Phil Hopper

 

While many, even some naïve Christians, don’t believe in Satan, he indeed is a real entity, a real person, says Phil Hopper, pastor of Abundant Life Church in Lee’s Summit, Missouri.

 

A former SWAT team member, Hopper, a recent guest of Dr. Steve Greene on Greenelines on the Charisma Podcast Network, says many Christians believe that the devil is only a symbol, and that makes the evil in this world difficult to explain. Hopper and Dr. Greene discuss Hopper’s book Defeating the Enemy: Exposing and Overcoming the Strategies of Satan, on Greenelines.

 

For the rest of Dr. Greene’s interview with Phil Hopper, visit cpnshows.com.

 

Introduction

I find myself asking the same questions. The apostle Paul asked himself, ‘why do I do the things I don't want to do, and why don't I do more things I really should be doing?’ When I consider this question, I offer you a caveat. We must be careful to not quote Paul's dilemma as an excuse or rationale for errors of commission and omission. I believe when Paul penned those words to the church, he was in deep travail. He pummeled Himself to conform to the life that Jesus called him to live. It wasn't a trite shoulder shrug like, well, boys will be boys. It was a passionate plea, such as David had when he said change my heart, O God, and similar cries that David made as he confronted his personal sin in Psalms and other places where we read about King David. Their words, Paul's words King David words, came from deep catacombs of their heart. They said things like, ‘help me Lord to be who You want me to be.’ That wasn't casual or oops, I slipped, forgive me Lord. It was a much deeper cry for repentance and change. As we pray this type of prayer, God knows our heart. That's that challenges me every time I open my mouth to pray. He knows my heart is my heart in this prayer, our sincerity, our true desire to come up higher. But let me add, so does our spiritual enemy. He wants to remind us of who were not. He wants to rip our life to pieces and laugh at us. I'm continually amazed by Christians who acknowledge Jesus and even the angelic hosts, but fail to recognize the evil power of Satan to permanently trap and entangle us. My guest today is written a book to help us remain mindful of the spiritual attacks that keep us from living a full life in Christ. He's not your average author or average pastor. He's had a life that I'll talk to you about in this interview.

 

Catch Phil Hopper on Christian Television

·         Exposing Satan’s Tactics

·         On Daystar Television

·         An Introduction to Defeating the Enemy

 

The book is called Defeating the Enemy: Exposing and Overcoming the Strategies of Satan. The author is Pastor Phil Hopper, a megachurch pastor in Lees Summit, Missouri. He's a former sergeant in the Kansas City Police Department and he served as a SWAT team member, and that scares me. I'm scared of pastors anyway when they get to preaching, but when they look like a SWAT team member and they’re preaching, my knees shake a little more. Steel shoes probably aren’t enough to protect my toes. I can tell you, saints, that he's seen his share of the impact of evil in America. I can't wait now to welcome pastor Phil Hopper to the Greenelines podcast.

 

As I said, I’m a little scared of you because I know you could snap my neck with a pinch. But you know, I just love who you are, and the service you've given. Tell us how you made that move from law enforcement to the grace of pastoral leadership?

 

Phil Hopper: That's the first question people always ask. As you know, Dr. Greene, there really is a calling. In my case, I chose it as a career. But you don't choose your calling, your calling chooses you. I've been on the PD several years walking with the Lord, sharing the gospel with whoever I could at the time. I started to sense a call to the ministry. A lot of people ask, how do you know your call? I tell people it's when you can't say no and I had started going to this little church in Lees Summit, a suburb of Kansas City, and it was a little church plant and our pastor resigned suddenly kind of under duress. It was a Tuesday night and they needed someone to preach on Sunday. I got a call on a Tuesday night and ended up preaching on Sunday. They've heard about this cop that was kind of studying and going into ministry. At the time I preached exactly twice in my life, once on a Sunday night to about 12 people; two of which were my mom and dad four of which were cops. I brought them along with me just make sure I had an audience. That was my big debut. Then the second time was on a mission trip to Mexico. They couldn't understand a word I was saying. So, the third time ever was on a Sunday morning in the fall of 1999, and I had never been so scared and all my life. I had been in some scary places, done some scary things, been shot at, at close range. But on that Sunday morning, I stood up to preach and I was honestly as scared as I'd ever been. Of course, the irony is these people weren’t going to shoot at me. The amazing thing is they asked me to do it again the next week. I thought it'd be one and done. They asked me to fill in the next week and then four months later they were asking me to be their pastor full-time. And so in March of 2000, I went to bed a cop and I woke up a pastor.

 

Dr. Steve Greene: My goodness, what a transition. That’s almost a Paul transition, isn't it?

 

Phil Hopper: God can take a year to make the preparation, but when He gets ready to make the move, it can happen really fast. And it really did for me. I never planned to be in ministry. But it's amazing. God has a unique way of preparing us in our journey for the real destiny he called us to.

 

Dr. Steve Greene: Your SWAT training, you went through so much to prepare for that. Does that training impact your sermons and therefore the writing of this book?

 

Phil Hopper: It certainly does. Like I said, the unique preparation God has for each of our lives … I tell people that the time I spent on the KCPD, a time I learned things, and I grew in ways that I could have never grown any classroom, any seminary, truthfully. and I'm certainly not opposed to seminary training. But the real-life preparation for ministry, looking back now was absolutely invaluable. The parallels are striking. The apostle Paul often talked about the warfare of the Christian life. He said, Timothy, you must therefore endure hardship as a good soldier of Jesus Christ. We wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities and powers and rulers of darkness of this world. He said that we walk in the flesh; we do not war according to the flesh, but the weapons of our warfare are not carnal but mighty in God. The reality is the Christian life really is warfare. We wrestle daily with demons. Most people don't know it that they’re prisoners, prisoners unaware. I do believe that the preparation I had through SWAT training … the parallels with an enemy you can see that’s trying to take you out, the real enemy of your soul that you can't see. The parallels really do transcend what we can see physically and then the unseen enemy that we wrestle with daily.

 

Dr. Steve Greene: I would imagine you've got huge influence with young people who admire or would look up to a SWAT officer even though they may not claim it, they still have respect and admiration for what you've done. I imagine your influence is great with the youngsters.

 

Phil Hopper: We have a phenomenal and honestly amazing young adult ministry. For all you hear that’s wrong in America, especially with the youngest generation, there's a real revival. There’s an awakening going on with these millennials. I couldn't be more excited about it

 

Dr. Steve Greene: It’s a Kansas City suburb, you've got a good audience there. You’ve got a big crowd to pull from.

 

Phil Hopper: Oh yeah, for sure. They are, in many cases, more sold out than mom and dad ever was to Jesus.

 

Dr. Steve Greene: I think you just have that appeal. I don't know you well, but I've read your book and I know a little bit about you. I would feel that you would just have the sense of real in the way you preach and how you bring the Word and the gospel that they just sense that you're the real deal.

 

Phil Hopper: I pray so. I think transparency is the number one longing today, especially among the younger generation. They've been through all the gimmicks and they've seen really all the games, and they just want something that really is real. I think credibility and believability comes with transparency.

 

Dr. Steve Greene: So, I'm going to believe and know that we have listeners who really don't believe in spiritual evil. That's just the truth. There are many God lovers who just don't believe in the other side. I've heard it from other people have written similar books to yours, but different in a lot of ways. So, do you still believe that this book would impact them if they're not currently a believer in the devil?

 

·         1 John 5:19: We know that we are of God, and the whole world lies in wickedness” (MEV).

 

Phil Hopper: I certainly hope so and I believe so. I think part of the part of the problem with the Western church is we've been so influenced by the worldview of Western civilization, which is naturalism, meaning we look for a natural cause for everything. We to want to explain everything through a naturalistic lens. But it's very clear we live in a supernatural world as well. It would be impossible, honestly, to be a follower of Jesus and not also a believer in one known as Satan. Jesus talked often about Satan, he taught often about saying Satan. He talked directly to Satan. So, the Gospel accounts are very clear when you read the words in red, Jesus certainly believed in a real person, a real entity called Satan. So as a follower of Jesus, especially with the impossible, for me not to believe in a real person name Satan … when Jesus taught about Satan he wasn't talking about a symbol of evil. He wasn't tempted in the desert by symbol of evil. He was tempted by a real person. For those that maybe aren’t Bible believing, or perhaps not even Christians, that would suggest there's not a real Satan and they're going to have a really difficult time explaining the evil in the world. Only when you accept the biblical explanation can you begin to understand what is going on in our world. First John 5:19 says the entire world lies under the power of the wicked one, which explains a lot of the chaos and confusion and the deprivation and destruction that we see going on in the world. The saddest part to me is it's not just outside the church, it's in the church. The habit is being reaped in the lives of believers.

 

Connect with Phil

·         Abundant Life Church

·         On Facebook

·         On Twitter

 

Greenelines Host Information

Dr. Steve Greene is the Publisher and Executive Vice President of Charisma Media. Dr. Greene received his Ph.D. in marketing from Memphis State University. He has worked in television station management and worked directly with over 80 stations throughout the United States. He has worked in marketing capacities with McDonald’s, Jiffy Lube, and Stanley Steemer. He has owned restaurants, a national advertising agency and a syndicated marketing research firm. Dr. Greene has served as the Dean of the College of Business and professor of marketing at Oral Roberts University. He is also the author of Love Leads, which dispels the myths and misconceptions many have come to accept about leadership.

To learn more about Dr. Steve Greene, connect with him on social media!

Facebook: https://facebook.com/drsgreene/

Twitter: https://twitter.com/DrSteveGreene

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dr.stevegreene/

 

email: greenelines@charismamedia.com

Episode Notes

Greenelines with

Dr. Steve Greene

Guest: Phil Hopper

 

While many, even some naïve Christians, don’t believe in Satan, he indeed is a real entity, a real person, says Phil Hopper, pastor of Abundant Life Church in Lee’s Summit, Missouri.

 

A former SWAT team member, Hopper, a recent guest of Dr. Steve Greene on Greenelines on the Charisma Podcast Network, says many Christians believe that the devil is only a symbol, and that makes the evil in this world difficult to explain. Hopper and Dr. Greene discuss Hopper’s book Defeating the Enemy: Exposing and Overcoming the Strategies of Satan, on Greenelines.

 

For the rest of Dr. Greene’s interview with Phil Hopper, visit cpnshows.com.

 

Introduction

I find myself asking the same questions. The apostle Paul asked himself, ‘why do I do the things I don't want to do, and why don't I do more things I really should be doing?’ When I consider this question, I offer you a caveat. We must be careful to not quote Paul's dilemma as an excuse or rationale for errors of commission and omission. I believe when Paul penned those words to the church, he was in deep travail. He pummeled Himself to conform to the life that Jesus called him to live. It wasn't a trite shoulder shrug like, well, boys will be boys. It was a passionate plea, such as David had when he said change my heart, O God, and similar cries that David made as he confronted his personal sin in Psalms and other places where we read about King David. Their words, Paul's words King David words, came from deep catacombs of their heart. They said things like, ‘help me Lord to be who You want me to be.’ That wasn't casual or oops, I slipped, forgive me Lord. It was a much deeper cry for repentance and change. As we pray this type of prayer, God knows our heart. That's that challenges me every time I open my mouth to pray. He knows my heart is my heart in this prayer, our sincerity, our true desire to come up higher. But let me add, so does our spiritual enemy. He wants to remind us of who were not. He wants to rip our life to pieces and laugh at us. I'm continually amazed by Christians who acknowledge Jesus and even the angelic hosts, but fail to recognize the evil power of Satan to permanently trap and entangle us. My guest today is written a book to help us remain mindful of the spiritual attacks that keep us from living a full life in Christ. He's not your average author or average pastor. He's had a life that I'll talk to you about in this interview.

 

Catch Phil Hopper on Christian Television

·         Exposing Satan’s Tactics

·         On Daystar Television

·         An Introduction to Defeating the Enemy

 

The book is called Defeating the Enemy: Exposing and Overcoming the Strategies of Satan. The author is Pastor Phil Hopper, a megachurch pastor in Lees Summit, Missouri. He's a former sergeant in the Kansas City Police Department and he served as a SWAT team member, and that scares me. I'm scared of pastors anyway when they get to preaching, but when they look like a SWAT team member and they’re preaching, my knees shake a little more. Steel shoes probably aren’t enough to protect my toes. I can tell you, saints, that he's seen his share of the impact of evil in America. I can't wait now to welcome pastor Phil Hopper to the Greenelines podcast.

 

As I said, I’m a little scared of you because I know you could snap my neck with a pinch. But you know, I just love who you are, and the service you've given. Tell us how you made that move from law enforcement to the grace of pastoral leadership?

 

Phil Hopper: That's the first question people always ask. As you know, Dr. Greene, there really is a calling. In my case, I chose it as a career. But you don't choose your calling, your calling chooses you. I've been on the PD several years walking with the Lord, sharing the gospel with whoever I could at the time. I started to sense a call to the ministry. A lot of people ask, how do you know your call? I tell people it's when you can't say no and I had started going to this little church in Lees Summit, a suburb of Kansas City, and it was a little church plant and our pastor resigned suddenly kind of under duress. It was a Tuesday night and they needed someone to preach on Sunday. I got a call on a Tuesday night and ended up preaching on Sunday. They've heard about this cop that was kind of studying and going into ministry. At the time I preached exactly twice in my life, once on a Sunday night to about 12 people; two of which were my mom and dad four of which were cops. I brought them along with me just make sure I had an audience. That was my big debut. Then the second time was on a mission trip to Mexico. They couldn't understand a word I was saying. So, the third time ever was on a Sunday morning in the fall of 1999, and I had never been so scared and all my life. I had been in some scary places, done some scary things, been shot at, at close range. But on that Sunday morning, I stood up to preach and I was honestly as scared as I'd ever been. Of course, the irony is these people weren’t going to shoot at me. The amazing thing is they asked me to do it again the next week. I thought it'd be one and done. They asked me to fill in the next week and then four months later they were asking me to be their pastor full-time. And so in March of 2000, I went to bed a cop and I woke up a pastor.

 

Dr. Steve Greene: My goodness, what a transition. That’s almost a Paul transition, isn't it?

 

Phil Hopper: God can take a year to make the preparation, but when He gets ready to make the move, it can happen really fast. And it really did for me. I never planned to be in ministry. But it's amazing. God has a unique way of preparing us in our journey for the real destiny he called us to.

 

Dr. Steve Greene: Your SWAT training, you went through so much to prepare for that. Does that training impact your sermons and therefore the writing of this book?

 

Phil Hopper: It certainly does. Like I said, the unique preparation God has for each of our lives … I tell people that the time I spent on the KCPD, a time I learned things, and I grew in ways that I could have never grown any classroom, any seminary, truthfully. and I'm certainly not opposed to seminary training. But the real-life preparation for ministry, looking back now was absolutely invaluable. The parallels are striking. The apostle Paul often talked about the warfare of the Christian life. He said, Timothy, you must therefore endure hardship as a good soldier of Jesus Christ. We wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities and powers and rulers of darkness of this world. He said that we walk in the flesh; we do not war according to the flesh, but the weapons of our warfare are not carnal but mighty in God. The reality is the Christian life really is warfare. We wrestle daily with demons. Most people don't know it that they’re prisoners, prisoners unaware. I do believe that the preparation I had through SWAT training … the parallels with an enemy you can see that’s trying to take you out, the real enemy of your soul that you can't see. The parallels really do transcend what we can see physically and then the unseen enemy that we wrestle with daily.

 

Dr. Steve Greene: I would imagine you've got huge influence with young people who admire or would look up to a SWAT officer even though they may not claim it, they still have respect and admiration for what you've done. I imagine your influence is great with the youngsters.

 

Phil Hopper: We have a phenomenal and honestly amazing young adult ministry. For all you hear that’s wrong in America, especially with the youngest generation, there's a real revival. There’s an awakening going on with these millennials. I couldn't be more excited about it

 

Dr. Steve Greene: It’s a Kansas City suburb, you've got a good audience there. You’ve got a big crowd to pull from.

 

Phil Hopper: Oh yeah, for sure. They are, in many cases, more sold out than mom and dad ever was to Jesus.

 

Dr. Steve Greene: I think you just have that appeal. I don't know you well, but I've read your book and I know a little bit about you. I would feel that you would just have the sense of real in the way you preach and how you bring the Word and the gospel that they just sense that you're the real deal.

 

Phil Hopper: I pray so. I think transparency is the number one longing today, especially among the younger generation. They've been through all the gimmicks and they've seen really all the games, and they just want something that really is real. I think credibility and believability comes with transparency.

 

Dr. Steve Greene: So, I'm going to believe and know that we have listeners who really don't believe in spiritual evil. That's just the truth. There are many God lovers who just don't believe in the other side. I've heard it from other people have written similar books to yours, but different in a lot of ways. So, do you still believe that this book would impact them if they're not currently a believer in the devil?

 

·         1 John 5:19: We know that we are of God, and the whole world lies in wickedness” (MEV).

 

Phil Hopper: I certainly hope so and I believe so. I think part of the part of the problem with the Western church is we've been so influenced by the worldview of Western civilization, which is naturalism, meaning we look for a natural cause for everything. We to want to explain everything through a naturalistic lens. But it's very clear we live in a supernatural world as well. It would be impossible, honestly, to be a follower of Jesus and not also a believer in one known as Satan. Jesus talked often about Satan, he taught often about saying Satan. He talked directly to Satan. So, the Gospel accounts are very clear when you read the words in red, Jesus certainly believed in a real person, a real entity called Satan. So as a follower of Jesus, especially with the impossible, for me not to believe in a real person name Satan … when Jesus taught about Satan he wasn't talking about a symbol of evil. He wasn't tempted in the desert by symbol of evil. He was tempted by a real person. For those that maybe aren’t Bible believing, or perhaps not even Christians, that would suggest there's not a real Satan and they're going to have a really difficult time explaining the evil in the world. Only when you accept the biblical explanation can you begin to understand what is going on in our world. First John 5:19 says the entire world lies under the power of the wicked one, which explains a lot of the chaos and confusion and the deprivation and destruction that we see going on in the world. The saddest part to me is it's not just outside the church, it's in the church. The habit is being reaped in the lives of believers.

 

Connect with Phil

·         Abundant Life Church

·         On Facebook

·         On Twitter

 

Greenelines Host Information

Dr. Steve Greene is the Publisher and Executive Vice President of Charisma Media. Dr. Greene received his Ph.D. in marketing from Memphis State University. He has worked in television station management and worked directly with over 80 stations throughout the United States. He has worked in marketing capacities with McDonald’s, Jiffy Lube, and Stanley Steemer. He has owned restaurants, a national advertising agency and a syndicated marketing research firm. Dr. Greene has served as the Dean of the College of Business and professor of marketing at Oral Roberts University. He is also the author of Love Leads, which dispels the myths and misconceptions many have come to accept about leadership.

To learn more about Dr. Steve Greene, connect with him on social media!

Facebook: https://facebook.com/drsgreene/

Twitter: https://twitter.com/DrSteveGreene

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dr.stevegreene/

 

email: greenelines@charismamedia.com

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Defeat the Enemy with Phil Hopper (Season 5, Ep. 34)