Kathy Branzell: Making Faith Your Legacy
What if your greatest trials became the foundation for someone else’s breakthrough? In this deeply moving episode of Her God Story, Kathy Branzell opens her heart about walking through shattered dreams, a 14-year battle with cancer, and the heartbreak of her son’s life-threatening illness—only to discover that God was weaving a legacy far greater than she imagined.
Through every detour, Kathy chose prayer over panic and purpose over pity—and now leads a nationwide movement of intercession as President of the National Day of Prayer Task Force. Her story is a powerful reminder that the faith you live today becomes the hope others carry tomorrow.
As you listen, you’ll be encouraged to see your pain through God’s perspective, find strength for your own journey, and be equipped to leave a legacy of unshakable faith—one that echoes through generations.
Our Guest: Kathy Branzell
Kathy Branzell is president of the National Day of Prayer Task Force. She also founded Fellowship and Christian Encouragement for Educators and served as a Rapid Response Chaplain for the Billy Graham Evangelical Association, National Coordinator of LOVE2020, and National Facilitator for the Mission America Coalition. Find out more about the National Day of Prayer at NationalDayofPrayer.org.
Key Thoughts and Scriptures:
Matthew 5:16 NIV In the same way, let your light shine before others, that they may see your good deeds and glorify your Father in heaven.
Psalm 78:4 ESV We will not hide them from their children, but tell to the coming generation the glorious deeds of the Lord, and his might, and the wonders that he has done.
Proverbs 3:6 NKJV In all your ways acknowledge Him, and He shall direct your paths.
- Sometimes God is directing our paths even when we think He’s abandoned us.
- Kathy struggles with the idea of getting angry at God because why would you run from the One who is your help and your hope. Even if He decides not to be your earthly healer, He is going to be your ultimate healer.
- Her path was to run headlong into His throne room to His feet and cry for help.
- Always keep your sense of humor in everything.
- Every minute has mission and meaning.
- “God's not going to stop being faithful to me on this day.”
- Be willing to take all that God has for every day and to invest in that opportunity to store up treasures in heaven.
- Trust God with everything.
- Don’t take anything at face value; Take everything at faith value.
- Ask God what He’s up to.
- Don’t get ahead or behind Him, but keep in cadence with His Heartbeat for you.
- A pity party only puts you in a pit.
- Celebrate life every single day.
- You can still make plans, but be willing for God to frustrate them.
“Either way, I win,” - Kathy’s 16 year old son after being diagnosed with cancer.
- “Jesus decides my days.”
- This is an opportunity to glorify Jesus.
- We make it through difficult times on God’s strength, not on our own.
- Talk about your history. Make it a story about God's faithfulness.
- Start building up courage and strength in our younger brothers and sisters in Christ. So that they know whose they are and the character of God and His strength.
- Kathy loves stories of faith because they gave her such confidence that God was going to work in her life too.
- We all walk in Kingdom purpose.
- Prayer is caught, not taught.
- So many times we honor people for worldly things rather than their character.
- Every human being needs acknowledgement.
- Prayer is a conversation with the One who loves you more than you could ever understand and the One who could do anything and everything above what we could imagine.
Ephesians 3:20 NKJV Now to Him who is able to do exceedingly abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power that works in us.
Kathy’s Two Most Spoken Prayers:
- Help!
- Shut my mouth!
Psalm 141:3 NLT Take control of what I say, O Lord, and guard my lips.
- The fervency of prayer comes out of a warm heart.
- Be willing to learn different parts of prayer.
- We praise God for who He is.
- And we thank God for what He does.
- Let it be a conversation.
Ruth’s Story
- Ruth was traveling with someone who called herself, “Bitter,” yet she was sweet and faithful.
- We need to be willing to journey with the bitter, the hurting, even the hateful and show them the love of Jesus Christ.
- Our lives—marked by God’s faithfulness through trial and triumph—can become a living legacy of faith to those around us.
2 Timothy 1:5 NIV I am reminded of your sincere faith, which first lived in your grandmother Lois and in your mother Eunice and, I am persuaded, now lives in you also.
Psalm 139:17-18 NIV How precious to me are your thoughts, God! How vast is the sum of them! Were I to count them, they would outnumber the grains of sand— when I awake, I am still with you.
Galatians 5:22-23 NIV But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law.
- Fruitfulness, not feelings, should run our lives when we are plugged into the Holy Spirit.
Colossians 2:7 CSB Being rooted and built up in him and established in the faith, just as you were taught, and overflowing with gratitude.
- Faith in God isn’t something just for the good times—it’s a way of life. It’s how we anchor our souls in hope.
Psalm 121:7-8 NIV The Lord will keep you from all harm—he will watch over your life; the Lord will watch over your coming and going both now and forevermore.
Links:
- “Life Means So Much” by Chris Rice
- “I Take Things At Faith Value, Kathy Branzell's Story”
- National Day of Prayer
Books:
- From Heaven’s View by T.W. Hunt
- The Hiding Place and Tramp for the Lord by Corrie Ten Boom
- An Invitation to Prayer: Developing a Lifestyle of Intimacy with God by Kathy Branzell
- An Apple a Day: 365 Devotions for the Heart of a Teacher by Kathy Branzell
- Prayer Warrior by Kathy Branzell
- 40 Days of Love: A Prayer, Care, Share Devotional by Chris Vennetti and Kathy Branzell
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Hey friends and welcome back to Her God's Story,
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Chiricosta, ministry leader at Somebody Cares
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American International, author and traveler on
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this journey with Jesus. I'm so glad you're tuning
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in today. You know, Jesus said in Matthew 5 16,
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let your light shine before others that they
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may see your good deeds and glorify your father
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in heaven. That's not just a call to speak truth.
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One of the most powerful ways we glorify God
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is by passing on our faith, living it out daily
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in such a way that it leaves a lasting mark on
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others. Psalm 78 four says, we will not hide
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them from our children, but tell the coming generation
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the glorious deeds of the Lord and his might
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and the wonders that he's done. Every generation
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needs to hear how God still moves, how he heals,
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provides, sustains and redeems. That's what my
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guest Cathy Branzell does so beautifully and
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why I've taken a portion of a previous episode
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to highlight this powerful calling. Through Cathy's
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incredible journey from military dreams and medical
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battles to motherhood and ministry, she has lived
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a life that tells of God's faithfulness. She's
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not only the president of the National Day of
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Prayer Task Force, but a passionate woman of
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faith who has learned how to pray deeply, love,
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lead faithfully. and walk courageously through
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trials most of us can only imagine. Her story
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is a living legacy of hope and one that continues
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to impact lives across the nation. So whether
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you're a mom, a mentor, or someone still finding
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your footing, Kathy's testimony will encourage
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you to live your faith in a way that it shines
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and inspires the next generation. Let's listen
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in. While you were growing up, did you always
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have a dream of serving the Lord in ministry?
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No, not even close. My dream was to fly SR -71s.
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I wanted to serve God and country. All I wanted
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to do was fly SR -71s in the outer atmosphere
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and fight the enemy by collecting intelligence.
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I wanted to do that all the way through life.
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Did you apply for an Academy job? I did and wound
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up going made a decision to go to the University
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of Georgia on ROTC into the ROTC detachment.
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But dreams were shattered as we found out I was
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night blind. Now I had learned to fly at the
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age of 15, but I did not get had no idea that
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I was night blind. I thought everybody had trouble
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seeing at night. I wasn't trying to hide it,
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but in getting to go into a deeper, much deeper
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physical for the possibility, not probability,
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but possibility of getting to fly. They found
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out I was night blind and everything came to
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a screeching halt at that moment because you
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can't fly and be night blind in the military.
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I've seen in my life, and I'm sure you have too,
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Kathy, that God directs the paths of the righteous
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even before we really know we're righteous sometimes.
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You know, I mean, you, you have been a Christian,
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of course. And so he was directing your paths,
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but sometimes even when we don't know God's directing
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us, he is directing us. And when we look back
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on our life, we think, wow, God, you were there
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even when I felt like you had abandoned me. Even
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when I felt like I missed it, Lord, you were
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still there directing my path. So along the way,
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you met your husband, you got married, you started
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a family. I met my husband when I was 11 and
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he was 13. Our dads were stationed in Texas together.
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I know we have this sweet story of no secrets
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when you know each other from that. But yeah,
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we met. It's really a funny story. I'll tell
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it very briefly. But he he was a really, really
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good baseball player. And I belonged to the Baptist
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Church in Texas. And Baptist softball is a big
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deal in Texas, or at least it used to be. And
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we, you know, played each other. All these churches
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played each other. And it was very competitive.
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Our youth group wanted him to come play because
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he was so good for our team. But you had to go
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to church. At least one day a week to get to
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play that week my husband will self -profess
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that he was quite the heathen as a child and
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Really didn't want anything to do with God But
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our youth group dragged him into Wednesday night
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where he got dinner in youth group And as he
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tells the story he walked in he can tell you
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what we ate What I was wearing and where we sat
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and the dirty looks my father gave him all through
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dinner As he sat down across the table from me
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with his spaghetti plate in hand looked at his
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friend Randy Hawkins and said, I'm going to marry
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that girl. Wow. So many, many, many, many years
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later, we got married. My father became his Sunday
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school teacher first. So anyway, we've known
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each other a really long time, but yep, along
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the way, finally got married and started a family.
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But even after that, you were dealt another pretty,
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pretty big blow. One that made your dream of
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not becoming a pilot pale in comparison. Yeah.
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It's a dark day when you hear your doctor say,
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you have a brain tumor and having an infant and
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having a brain tumor is not something anybody
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can plan for. And so just, you can either, I
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struggle with the idea of getting angry at God
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because I'm like, why would you run from the
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one God And because I don't want to call him
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a person, but the one who is your help and your
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hope, even if he decides not to be your earthly
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healer, he is going to be your ultimate healer.
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And so I don't judge a single person, please
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hear my heart, who who does get mad. But that
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was not my path. My path was to run headfirst,
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headlong onto my face into the throne room of
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heaven at his feet and cry for help. So did you
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get miraculously healed? Did you have to go through
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some medical treatments? How was that journey
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for you? 14 and a half years of chemotherapy.
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It was a very long, gross, painful journey of
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experimental chemo, but then I would go into
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remission. And each time the remissions got a
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little shorter and shorter. At one point, they
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had taken me off the chemo too early, thinking
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I was in remission and I wasn't. The tumor started
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growing back almost immediately, but it grew
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into a different area of the brain. And I lost
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my short -term memory for 18 months. Wow. And
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so that's, you know, always keep your sense of
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humor and everything. People would look at me
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funny, but it was the only way to explain it
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to people was I would say just I'm Teflon brain.
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Nothing sticks. Yeah, nothing. It was very almost
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Alzheimer ish where I could turn to you and meet
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you turn away and turn back to you and meet you
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again. And so that was a very scary 18 months
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as I had my long term memory, but we just had
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moved to Colorado, so I had no long term memories
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there. So if I eventually if I left my house,
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I was lost. But God and so varying stages of
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chemotherapy reached a point where there was
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nothing more they could do for me, signed paperwork
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for an experimental surgery. And two weeks before
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that surgery, God said enough. sent this incredible
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woman I've never met before and never seen since
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from Mexico who had a dream the night before
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about me and God told her to tell me I was healed
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and I would love to be able to confess that I
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received that with great faith and jubilation
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but I did not I questioned her and God made it
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clear that That was the case in our conversation
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and I went home had an MRI and Praise the Lord.
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The tumor was gone. And so that was in 2000 even
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in the middle of your grim prognosis You decided
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not to get mad instead. You started getting involved
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in ministry So how did you do that? I can't pinpoint
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it to a moment, but you know, there was a Chris
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Rice, Chris Rice song that said, teach us to
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number our days and teach us to make our days
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count. That was really bringing me back to my
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roots of every, every minute has mission and
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meaning. And was I going to waste? I still rested.
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I still did my treatments. I mean, it was a long
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road. But I wasn't going to sit around and wait.
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And a lot of time the opportunity was at the
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hospital, in the hospital, the lab, you know,
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just encouraging others, continuing to speak
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faith, knowing that God's always faithful. He's
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not going to stop being faithful to me on this
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day. And so expressing that faithfulness and
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encouraging others. wherever I was, people who
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were bringing me food, doing my laundry, taking
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care of my children. They would always say, you
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know, I came over to minister to you, but you
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ended up ministering to me. This is this is crazy.
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And so just being willing to take all that God
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has for every day and to invest in that opportunity
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to store up treasures in heaven. Well, after
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your 14 year struggle and you and all that you
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and your family had been through, What did God
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do? You know, you learned some deep lessons from
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the Lord. Can you share some of those? Oh, wow.
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Trust Him with everything. Don't take anything
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at face value. Take everything at faith value
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is really what I would tell people now. I often
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say, God, what are you up to? And you can almost
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hear say, well, come up and see. You know, He
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will give you heaven's view. If you ask him,
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that comes from one of my most favorite Bible
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studies of all time, you know, T .W. Hunt's From
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Heaven's View. With that, just trusting him in
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the moments, not running ahead of him, not falling
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behind, but keeping in cadence with his heartbeat
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for you and living that out for my children,
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living that out in our family. A pity party only
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puts you in a pit, you know, when you really
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think with the root of a pity. party is the word
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pit and so how do you just celebrate life every
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single day wherever you're living it and however
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you're living it for a planner like me taking
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everything one step at a time with the Lord can
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be challenging I mean I'm daily learning how
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to do that I'm getting better at it but I like
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to run ahead and say okay let me see what's ahead
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Lord but He doesn't show us. Well, I plan to
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be spontaneous. Yeah. The joke is I plan to be
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spontaneous. And so that's just a discipling
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moment where you still make plans. Let me just
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say that you still make plans. You're just willing
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for God to frustrate them. Not long after you
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and your family had been through all that you
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had been through, your son experienced a health
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crisis. And as a mom, that probably shook you
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more than your own mortality. How did you walk
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through that? It is it was the worst. As a matter
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of fact, I when when our son just a year later,
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we were we were a cancer free family for for
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a whopping 13 months, not even. And when the
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doctor said that he had this horrific rare blood
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cancer, I actually whispered the words to God,
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just give me mine back. And God's like, that's
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not how this works. That's not what this is about.
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But that was painful. And in that moment to have
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my 16 year old boy. OK, everybody just stop.
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And if you've ever interacted with a 16 year
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old boy, if you had a 16 year old boy, you'll
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know this was God and his response. He looked
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at the doctor. He looked over at me and he looked
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back at the doctor and he said, either way, I
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win. And his Jewish doctor said, I I have no
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idea what you're saying. What are you talking
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about? And Chandler said, well, Doc, if by the
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miracle of medication, Jesus allows you to cure
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me, to heal me, and I live longer here on earth
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than, in the words of my mom, he's not ready
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to graduate me, and I win. But, Doc, if he decides
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that my time here is done, if I'm not healed
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here and I get to go home and be in heaven with
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Jesus. That's a bigger win. And so, Doc, just
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so you know, no guilt for you, but no glory for
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you either. Jesus decides my days. And he said,
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my mom had cancer for over 14 years and I know
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from watching her, this is an opportunity to
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glorify Jesus. And that's what we will do. So
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that was that journey for almost two years and
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thankfully he still is with us and is thriving
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and serving the Lord in media. And what a testimony
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though really of how you walked through your
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cancer journey that your son would be have seen
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your faith in the middle of it all. I'm sure
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you had days when you were like can I do this
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anymore Lord? Seeing that steadfastness gave
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him the confidence when he faced it to say yeah.
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I can do this through God, through God, not my
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own strength. He saw it as a platform to get
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to share his faith. And he had chemo every single
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Friday. Imagine that, you know, your high school
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years are supposed to be the greatest years of
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your life. And every weekend for his junior and
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senior year, he's sick as a dog. He's in the
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infusion room all day Friday, but he just used
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it. No matter where we were in the lab, he was
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hospitalized several times. We're at Children's
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Hospital and he just used it to express his faith
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and it was a platform for him. A microphone.
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So it was great. So for her moms and grandmas
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out there, let me just speak to grandmas and
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aunts and, you know, maybe some older people
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right now. They're like, why am I still here?
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What is my purpose? You know, is God still using
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me? My dad used to tell us stories about him
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growing up and things that he's been through.
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And of course, my brother and I had to jab with
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my dad. We called them boohoo stories, you know,
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walking to school both ways in the snow, uphill
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with no shoes, you know, those kind of things.
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But really I want to encourage you to talk about
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your history, talk about your days with children,
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with youth, with whatever. But instead of making
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it about you, make it a story about God's faithfulness.
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Talk about where God showed up. That's what scripture
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is. You know, we know these great stories of
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all of these people, but it's like. And here's
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where God engaged. And here's what God did. And
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here's how God provided. And here's what God
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said. And yes, here's where people were disciplined.
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And here's where people died. And here's where
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David's running for his life and living in caves.
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It's not this fairy tale story, but it is a story
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of God's faithfulness. So make your life and
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your testimony and your conversations without
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becoming preachy. Make your stories about God's
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faithfulness and start building up courage and
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strength in our younger brother sisters in Christ
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lives So that they know whose they are the character
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of God and his strength and they start walking
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in that instead of what they're hearing on the
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news and what they're hearing at school and what
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bullies and friends in peer pressure are telling
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them start building up that God confidence and
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that God identity in them as you tell your story.
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You know, my parents were the first believers
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in their families, at least in that generation.
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My whole family, we got saved within a month
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of each other and kind of grew in the Lord together.
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But I loved when I was little to read. biographies
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of believers. I would read Cory Tan Boon and
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I would read, you know, Of Whom the World Was
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Not Worthy and, you know, Amy Carmichael's story.
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And I loved those stories of faith because they
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gave me such confidence that God was going to
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work in my life too. And it's even more impactful
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when you hear it right out of the horse's mouth.
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I mean, over the years, God has allowed me to,
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you know, meet some believers who have lived
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long and seen God's faithfulness in their lives.
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And just what you said, it's so impactful to
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hear right from them. This is what God did for
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me. You know, I think I was just reflecting the
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other day on my life because of many things that
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have happened, even as a child. And I thought
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out loud, you know, the enemy has always been
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after me. The enemy has my entire life has wanted
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to shut me down because of the plans that God
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has for my life. And that's true for every human
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being. I'm not special. I'm not, you know, we
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we all walk in kingdom purpose. But just thinking
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about how the enemy's been after me all the time.
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Even as a child and going back and saying thank
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you God. Thank you for your protection Thank
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you for snatching me out of the enemy's hand
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in that moment Thank you that I didn't go into
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some pit of despair because of that happening
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because of people very close to me committing
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suicide in high school and on and on the stories
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go, but just having your kids make it a habit
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to stop and notice God's faithfulness and the
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whole God is great, God is good, and we thank
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him for our food. You can teach a four -year
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-old, a three -year -old to talk about, well,
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how is God great? You know, try that for a dinner
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conversation. Well, what else do you think him
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for besides food and really growing up this these
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prayer warriors and and these warriors in Christ
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so that they are strong all the way through Whatever
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God has for them and quite frankly, whatever
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the enemy has for them so that it's a glory story
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men I love the women that you got to work with.
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It was such a privilege for you, I'm sure, to
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work so closely with women like Shirley Dobson
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and Vinnette Bright and Anne Graham Lotz. I mean,
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true women of the faith, true mothers of the
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faith. Just by being around them, I'm sure you
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learned so much. You got to observe their lives
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and watch how they dealt with crisis and share
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one or two memorable things that you learned
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just by being around them shoulder to shoulder.
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Wow. I certainly learned to pray. You know, we
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say prayer is caught, not taught. You really
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grow a deeper, more intimate prayer life by praying
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with people who have deep, intimate prayer lives.
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And so definitely learned how to pray, learned
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a lot about leadership, but also learned a lot
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about marriage and family life. Like what? I
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remember standing at chapel and focus on the
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family with Shirley. and she's just looking adoringly
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at Doc. It was the sweetest thing to just step
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back for a second and look at her looking at
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him. Now they have a very cool relationship and
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I've... had the privilege of spending an enormous
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amount of time with them and traveling with her,
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traveling with both of them. And they tell funny
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stories on each other. They have this great sense
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of humor. They just have a sweetness about him.
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But getting her to look at him and then after
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chapel, she grabbed my arm. It was like she was
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going to explode if she didn't tell somebody.
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And she said, integrity. When I look at my husband,
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I have so much respect for him because he is
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a man of integrity. And I thought, ooh, sis,
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you plant that in your heart right there. Because
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so many times we honor people for Worldly applause
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and she could have said how many books he's written
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the number of people he's helped Look at this
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massive ministry that he grew, you know from
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a seedling but she looked at his character and
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she honored him that's something for us to remember
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as wives is to watch what we say even if we're
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like just joking, you know, the Bible says don't
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do that because We're saying this is really what's
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in my heart about you. And so to remember, I
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would say I learned from all of those women various
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things, but that every human being needs acknowledgement.
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So don't ignore people. They were all great.
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at stopping and giving people their focused attention,
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which is hard to do when everybody not looking
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over your shoulder, not looking around the room
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for somebody more important. Or how do I get?
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I mean, so just acknowledging you as a human
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being, giving appreciation to everyone, to their
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staff, to their families and just appreciative
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people and great affection. not withholding beyond
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the leadership. You can, you can take a whole
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bunch of leadership lessons. Um, and at the root,
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there were those, those three things. So you
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love prayer head of the national day of protest
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for us. A lot of people don't have that same
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feeling about it. How did you get to that point
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and how can others get to that point? Like I
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was saying, prayer is caught, not taught. And
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so for a lot of us, prayer feels awkward. You
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think that maybe you were raised that you have
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to go into your best King James version and you
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have to use big words and you have to sound very
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glamorous and well -educated in your prayers
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and use some dolls and some arts. And really,
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prayer is a conversation with the one who loves
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you more than you could ever understand. And
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the one that can do anything and everything abundantly,
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be all anything we could ever imagine. It's a
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conversation with your Abba father, but respectful.
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But I would say probably my most spoken prayer
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is help. Yeah. And maybe my second most spoken
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prayer was shut my mouth. You know, guard my
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lips. It doesn't have to be glamorous, but really
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the fervency of prayer comes out of a warm heart.
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It doesn't come out of here, out of your brain,
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it comes out of your heart. Being willing to
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learn different parts of prayer as a study of
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prayer, because this year, Exalt the Lord, we
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got to talk about praise. And people will very
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quickly confuse praise with thanksgiving. Now,
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we praise God for who He is, unchanging all His
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attributes. I love my husband because He is my
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husband. And I don't withhold my love based on
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what He does or doesn't do. That's thankfulness.
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We thank God for what He does. We praise Him
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for who He is. We love Him because of who He
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is. We are faithful because of who He is. And
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so starting to understand what intercession is
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and praises and thanksgiving is and listening,
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letting it be a conversation. Your prayer life
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can grow. You can grow out of a quiet time and
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into a prayer life. Just kind of a day at time,
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a moment at a time, every day along the way.
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Just saying either out loud or in your spirit
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as a beautiful bird flies by or you see the sunset
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or your kids all climb in the car and are chatting
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away to you about their day and you're talking
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to God about it. That is prayer to me. As we
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close I love to ask my guests if there's a woman
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in the Bible whose story has inspired or encouraged
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you or taught you something and how her God's
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story relates to yours. You know for a long time
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it was Ruth because I mean can you I think about
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Ruth and Naomi and and that that trip, you know,
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over from Moab to Bethlehem and traveling with
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someone who calls herself bitter. Can you imagine
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how fun that road trip was for Ruth? But she
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was so sweet and so faithful. And just to have
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this intimacy with her mother -in -law like that,
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making it clear my mother -in -law wasn't like
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that, just to be willing to journey with the
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bitter. to be willing to journey with the hurting,
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even the hateful, and show them the love of Jesus
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Christ like Ruth did. Man, I want to be like
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that because it's too easy to run from those
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people and just be like, okay, enough. But in
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these days of such great mental illness, such
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mental illness going on in our country right
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now, so many hurting people, so many hopeless
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people, we need to be more Ruth -like. and be
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willing to serve them, love them, stick with
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them, so that our God will become their God.
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Amen. As we've heard through Kathy's powerful
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testimony, our lives, marked by God's faithfulness
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through trial and triumph, can become a living
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legacy of faith to those around us. Just as Paul
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said to Timothy in 2 Timothy 1 .5, the NIV version,
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I am reminded of your sincere faith, which first
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lived in your grandmother, Lois, and in your
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mother, Eunice. And I'm persuaded now lives in
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you also. We are called to pass on that legacy,
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not only through our words, but through the way
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we endure, trust, and walk closely with the Lord.
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So Cathy, would you take a moment and pray for
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everyone who listens to this amazing God story?
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Absolutely. Lord Jesus, we love you so much and
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we thank you that you loved us first and your
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loving thoughts towards us are more than even
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the numbers of grains of sand up on this planet.
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And so Lord, I pray that you would encourage,
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that you would bring courageous confidence, courageous
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love, courageous joy, peace, patience, kindness,
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goodness. faithfulness, gentleness, and self
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-control into the lives of every listener. Lord,
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that the seeds that were planted in the Holy
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Spirit's hands today would grow into an orchard
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of fruitfulness, that we would remember that
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self -control coming from the Holy Spirit really
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plugs our heart into the spirit, that fruitfulness,
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not feelings. Should run our life when we are
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plugged into the Holy Spirit And so Lord I ask
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that you would to help us to sort through the
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emotions of life To get to the root of you So
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it is to our father's glory that we bear much
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fruit. And so I ask for courageous Listeners
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today who are encouraged in you deeply rooted
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and being built up in you established in their
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faith just as they were instructed, and that
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they would be overflowing with gratitude. In
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Jesus's beautiful, powerful, wonderful name we
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pray. Amen. What a powerful reminder that the
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faith we live out today can echo into future
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generations. Just as Lois and Eunice's sincere
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faith poured into Timothy's life, Kathy's journey
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shows how a life of steadfast faith and prayer
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can shape not only our path, but the faith of
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those who walk beside us. From her own miraculous
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healing to the courageous stand of her son, we've
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seen that faith in God isn't something just for
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the good times. It's a way of life. It's how
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we anchor our souls in hope and how we pass on
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the legacy of a living relationship with God.
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If you'd like to hear more of Kathy's story,
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check out the episode posted on July 11th, 2022,
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entitled, I Take Things at Faith Value. Now,
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let me bless you with these words from Psalm
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121. May the Lord keep you from all harm and
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watch over your life. May the Lord watch over
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your coming and your going both now and forevermore.
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May his peace guide your heart, may his presence
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go before you, and may your life continue to
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tell the story of his faithfulness. If you need
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prayer, we'd be honored to stand with you. You
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can call or text our prayer line at 855 -459
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-CARE or email us at prayer at somebodycares
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.org. It's our joy to believe with you for God's
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work in your life. You can explore more about
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Kathy's books and her work with the National
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Day of Prayer in our show notes at hergodstory
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.org. Until next time, I'm Jody Caracasta. Keep
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seeking God and remember, He is still writing
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