Stephen Strang Analyzes Kenneth Copeland's Handling of Inside Edition's Ambush Interview

Stephen Strang Analyzes Kenneth Copeland's Handling of Inside Edition's Ambush Interview

Listen as host Stephen Strang speaks out on how this is the "same old, same old" journalistic treatment of successful ministers that was picked up by other media. Hear why he believes Copeland handled the situation well and why Christians should support him.

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Episode Notes

The Strang Report

with Stephen Strang

Listen as host Stephen Strang speaks out on how this is the "same old, same old" journalistic treatment of successful ministers that was picked up by other media. Hear why he believes Copeland handled the situation well and why Christians should support him.

Introduction

Stephen Strang: This is Stephen Strang. I want to introduce my listeners to Charisma magazine if you don't already get it. Or if you do get it, you could respond to this special offer and we will continue your subscription into the future. The offer is to give you both of my books on Donald Trump: God and Donald Trump and the new one. Trump Aftershock. These are a value of just less than $50 plus two years of Charisma, which costs around $40. You can get the whole package for only $39. Let me repeat, you get both of my best-selling books, and two years of Charisma for only $39. All you have to do is go to this site: Trumpbooks.charismamag.com. I hope that you'll take advantage of it because it's a good offer. It's my way to try to connect you with Charisma, and also get more copies of my book out there. Thank you for listening to the Strang Report. And here's my episode:

 

·         Read the Strang Report: Stephen Strang: Why I Applaud Kenneth Copeland’s Handling of Inside Edition’s Ambush Interview

 

Stephen Strang: The TV program Inside Edition recently did an ambush interview with evangelist Kenneth Copeland. It was repeated on Fox News. It is the same old, same old, and I felt that as a journalist, I should respond. Hello, everyone. This is Stephen Strang, and on this edition of the Strang Report, I'm going to give my analysis of what happened to Kenneth Copeland in this interview. I've known Kenneth Copeland since the late 1970s. One of the first major interviews I did with a Christian leader was with Kenneth Copeland in 1979. I flew out to his headquarters, which was different than it is now in or near Fort Worth, Texas and flew back with him and his ministry team to Jacksonville, Florida where he was having a big conference. It was the only time that they would give me for a sit-down interview. So, I sat in the back of the plane with him. It was a prop plane, I remember. Kenneth Copeland, at the time, was only 42 years old. I got out the article recently and re-read it. He was only on the radio, and he had a dream of being on TV. Yet, his ministry was already prominent enough that I felt that we should cover it in Charisma magazine. So, I’ve known for a long time that he has had an airplane. That seemed to be the subject of this Inside Edition story.

 

Kenneth Copeland on Charisma

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There was a young lady reporter who did what's called ambush journalism. She kind of rushed up him while he was getting into a vehicle. on the passenger side. I read in the press that he was in Branson, Missouri at the time. It was unexpected. She came up, identified herself thrust a microphone in this face and asked why he didn't fly commercial. Now, we hear a lot about fake news. President Trump is one that kind of made that popular. But there are certain things that happen in journalism that I've seen ever since I started back in the 1970s. In fact, I was in secular journalism. I was a born-again, spirit-filled Christian back in that era. I was taught and I tried very hard to be objective. Yet, I was not willing to go along with their view of objectivity when it came to Christianity. I think it's one of the reasons why I started my own media so that I could report on what we believe the Lord was doing and a lot of good things. And here is the drift.  Going all the way back to the 70s, and a lot of it's just the same old, same old. Let me tick this off. First of all, reporting on Christianity is mainly important only if there's something kind of controversial. And, there are certain things they think are controversial. One of them is if ministers make any money at all. This was the theme. You can watch the Inside Edition report. I took some notes and three or four times she said a lot of people say it's not right for a preacher, or sometimes he called him a pastor, to make any money.

If you look at this historically, in a way, this goes all the way back to the Middle Ages with St. Francis, who started the Franciscans.  He taught that the priests should beg; beg and not get paid. Beg for, as they went around, and the people would give them sort of what they needed to barely live. To some extent, there's still this thought in western civilization, that people who preach the gospel should sort of live at that level. Nobody goes up to a doctor and says you made an oath to help people, and you're making money at it. Why do you make money at this? Why do you live in a nice house? Nobody says that to a lawyer. These are professionals. And many people in our culture do recognize that members of the clergy are professionals. But the press don’t. There is this just monotonous hammering on this again, and again. And again, it's like if you make any money at all, there's something wrong with you. The fact is that most Americans live more or less at the level of their means. That's just what happens. If you don't have any money, you figure out a way to live at a lower level. If you run a large organization, whether it's a business, or maybe a political organization, or even some large ministries, and there's funds there, you're able to do what you need to do with it. So, for example, a very poor politician who has absolutely no money, maybe in a local area, would get by walking door-to-door or maybe driving to their different events. But if they have a big, national campaign, and they've raised millions of dollars, as happens now, they'll fly, especially if it's across the nation because they have to get from place to place very quickly.

And, so it is with ministries in a situation like Kenneth Copeland and many other ministries. There's a number of large ministries that have airplanes. And why is this so controversial? This reporter took a comment that Kenneth Copeland apparently made … I have not verified this with him. I'm just going by what's on Inside Edition, that he didn't like to be in a tube with a bunch of demons. Well, Brother Copeland has a sense of humor. In certain settings, he would describe what goes on in airplanes. It is like a tube. It's very crowded. And he'd be speaking a little bit in hyperbole, but there are people in those airplanes who are not spiritual. Sometimes they have to haul them off because they get into fights with each other. These days, a commercial airline is a flying bar. They serve alcohol. A lot of people. They don't get too tipsy because they won't serve them that much. But there are a lot of things that are not spiritual. It's not necessarily a good environment. And Brother Copeland makes this point. He also made the point he was not talking about the people. He was talking about principalities and powers, which we as Christians, believe, the Bible says, we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities and powers. And there are sort of demonic activities, there can be kind of an oppression, just an atmosphere. Someone like Kenneth Copeland, who's flying to crusades … in fact, he told about how he had to fly recently from Africa over to Peru to be involved in two different meetings. And he couldn't do that, of course, unless he didn't have his own airplane.

Now, I have not talked to anyone at the Copeland ministry. I haven't shared any emails or texts, I've had no contact with him. They did not ask me to do this. But I just felt that we need to put this in perspective for several things, for several reasons. First of all, when someone like him is attacked, it seems like everybody kind of withdraws and let's ride it out on their own. I decided I wanted to speak up, because this kind of journalism is very typical. They just hammer the same thing again and again. Now, the young lady did seem to be professional, as much as you can be with ambush journalism. The entire interview was conducted with the car door open, and him with one foot in the car door. She caught him off guard. I felt that he handled it very well. He was polite to her. He indicated that they watched Inside Edition at his home, he said nice things. At one point, he said, Jesus help me, kind of like a little prayer. Then he kind of preached the gospel to her. He talked about the Abrahamic blessing that’s in the book of Genesis. He talked about the fact that he preached the gospel. And if I remember correctly, he said there were 122 million people who've come to Christ over the period of his very long ministry. They give millions of dollars to help the poor. And they can't they couldn't do that if it was a little ministry.

I've watched this ministry up close and personal. I also flew to Manila back in 1981. It was the first overseas crusade that he did. Since then, of course, he's done many. And I got to know the ministry up close and personal. I was there for a couple of weeks with them. Everyone I've ever known in that ministry has always been high-caliber, ethical, they tell the truth. There isn't a lot of double dealing. I've seen that they give very, very generously. As a personal Christian, rather than through my organization or anything else, I support this ministry every month. I regularly give to this ministry because I believe in it. It's one of the most generous ministries. I've seen them all up close and personal. There are preachers who emphasize prosperity gospel and they do it because they really do want a big lifestyle. From what I've seen the Copelands, I've been out to their headquarters in Fort Worth, and they're very nice, but it's not ostentatious. It isn't a monument to Kenneth Copeland. It's an ongoing ministry that will outlive him, and will continue, I'm sure, after he's in heaven, because none of us live forever. I want to say that I admired the way he handled it. He was polite to the lady, he shared with her the gospel. At the end, he grabbed her hand and asked her name, and even prayed for her. She said something about both of her grandfather's being sort of poor preachers and this undoubtedly colored her own view.

 

Where to Find Stephen Strang on the Internet

· The Strang Report on Charismamag.com

· The Strang Report on cpnshows.com

· On Twitter

· On Facebook

Episode Notes

The Strang Report

with Stephen Strang

Listen as host Stephen Strang speaks out on how this is the "same old, same old" journalistic treatment of successful ministers that was picked up by other media. Hear why he believes Copeland handled the situation well and why Christians should support him.

Introduction

Stephen Strang: This is Stephen Strang. I want to introduce my listeners to Charisma magazine if you don't already get it. Or if you do get it, you could respond to this special offer and we will continue your subscription into the future. The offer is to give you both of my books on Donald Trump: God and Donald Trump and the new one. Trump Aftershock. These are a value of just less than $50 plus two years of Charisma, which costs around $40. You can get the whole package for only $39. Let me repeat, you get both of my best-selling books, and two years of Charisma for only $39. All you have to do is go to this site: Trumpbooks.charismamag.com. I hope that you'll take advantage of it because it's a good offer. It's my way to try to connect you with Charisma, and also get more copies of my book out there. Thank you for listening to the Strang Report. And here's my episode:

 

·         Read the Strang Report: Stephen Strang: Why I Applaud Kenneth Copeland’s Handling of Inside Edition’s Ambush Interview

 

Stephen Strang: The TV program Inside Edition recently did an ambush interview with evangelist Kenneth Copeland. It was repeated on Fox News. It is the same old, same old, and I felt that as a journalist, I should respond. Hello, everyone. This is Stephen Strang, and on this edition of the Strang Report, I'm going to give my analysis of what happened to Kenneth Copeland in this interview. I've known Kenneth Copeland since the late 1970s. One of the first major interviews I did with a Christian leader was with Kenneth Copeland in 1979. I flew out to his headquarters, which was different than it is now in or near Fort Worth, Texas and flew back with him and his ministry team to Jacksonville, Florida where he was having a big conference. It was the only time that they would give me for a sit-down interview. So, I sat in the back of the plane with him. It was a prop plane, I remember. Kenneth Copeland, at the time, was only 42 years old. I got out the article recently and re-read it. He was only on the radio, and he had a dream of being on TV. Yet, his ministry was already prominent enough that I felt that we should cover it in Charisma magazine. So, I’ve known for a long time that he has had an airplane. That seemed to be the subject of this Inside Edition story.

 

Kenneth Copeland on Charisma

·         Kenneth Copeland on Trump’s State Dinner: ‘It Was Like a Really Anointed Church Service’

·         Kenneth Copeland Says This Smith Wigglesworth Prophecy Will be Fulfilled in 2019

·         What Happened When Kenneth Copeland Began Praying in the Spirit for Lyndon B. Johnson

 

There was a young lady reporter who did what's called ambush journalism. She kind of rushed up him while he was getting into a vehicle. on the passenger side. I read in the press that he was in Branson, Missouri at the time. It was unexpected. She came up, identified herself thrust a microphone in this face and asked why he didn't fly commercial. Now, we hear a lot about fake news. President Trump is one that kind of made that popular. But there are certain things that happen in journalism that I've seen ever since I started back in the 1970s. In fact, I was in secular journalism. I was a born-again, spirit-filled Christian back in that era. I was taught and I tried very hard to be objective. Yet, I was not willing to go along with their view of objectivity when it came to Christianity. I think it's one of the reasons why I started my own media so that I could report on what we believe the Lord was doing and a lot of good things. And here is the drift.  Going all the way back to the 70s, and a lot of it's just the same old, same old. Let me tick this off. First of all, reporting on Christianity is mainly important only if there's something kind of controversial. And, there are certain things they think are controversial. One of them is if ministers make any money at all. This was the theme. You can watch the Inside Edition report. I took some notes and three or four times she said a lot of people say it's not right for a preacher, or sometimes he called him a pastor, to make any money.

If you look at this historically, in a way, this goes all the way back to the Middle Ages with St. Francis, who started the Franciscans.  He taught that the priests should beg; beg and not get paid. Beg for, as they went around, and the people would give them sort of what they needed to barely live. To some extent, there's still this thought in western civilization, that people who preach the gospel should sort of live at that level. Nobody goes up to a doctor and says you made an oath to help people, and you're making money at it. Why do you make money at this? Why do you live in a nice house? Nobody says that to a lawyer. These are professionals. And many people in our culture do recognize that members of the clergy are professionals. But the press don’t. There is this just monotonous hammering on this again, and again. And again, it's like if you make any money at all, there's something wrong with you. The fact is that most Americans live more or less at the level of their means. That's just what happens. If you don't have any money, you figure out a way to live at a lower level. If you run a large organization, whether it's a business, or maybe a political organization, or even some large ministries, and there's funds there, you're able to do what you need to do with it. So, for example, a very poor politician who has absolutely no money, maybe in a local area, would get by walking door-to-door or maybe driving to their different events. But if they have a big, national campaign, and they've raised millions of dollars, as happens now, they'll fly, especially if it's across the nation because they have to get from place to place very quickly.

And, so it is with ministries in a situation like Kenneth Copeland and many other ministries. There's a number of large ministries that have airplanes. And why is this so controversial? This reporter took a comment that Kenneth Copeland apparently made … I have not verified this with him. I'm just going by what's on Inside Edition, that he didn't like to be in a tube with a bunch of demons. Well, Brother Copeland has a sense of humor. In certain settings, he would describe what goes on in airplanes. It is like a tube. It's very crowded. And he'd be speaking a little bit in hyperbole, but there are people in those airplanes who are not spiritual. Sometimes they have to haul them off because they get into fights with each other. These days, a commercial airline is a flying bar. They serve alcohol. A lot of people. They don't get too tipsy because they won't serve them that much. But there are a lot of things that are not spiritual. It's not necessarily a good environment. And Brother Copeland makes this point. He also made the point he was not talking about the people. He was talking about principalities and powers, which we as Christians, believe, the Bible says, we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities and powers. And there are sort of demonic activities, there can be kind of an oppression, just an atmosphere. Someone like Kenneth Copeland, who's flying to crusades … in fact, he told about how he had to fly recently from Africa over to Peru to be involved in two different meetings. And he couldn't do that, of course, unless he didn't have his own airplane.

Now, I have not talked to anyone at the Copeland ministry. I haven't shared any emails or texts, I've had no contact with him. They did not ask me to do this. But I just felt that we need to put this in perspective for several things, for several reasons. First of all, when someone like him is attacked, it seems like everybody kind of withdraws and let's ride it out on their own. I decided I wanted to speak up, because this kind of journalism is very typical. They just hammer the same thing again and again. Now, the young lady did seem to be professional, as much as you can be with ambush journalism. The entire interview was conducted with the car door open, and him with one foot in the car door. She caught him off guard. I felt that he handled it very well. He was polite to her. He indicated that they watched Inside Edition at his home, he said nice things. At one point, he said, Jesus help me, kind of like a little prayer. Then he kind of preached the gospel to her. He talked about the Abrahamic blessing that’s in the book of Genesis. He talked about the fact that he preached the gospel. And if I remember correctly, he said there were 122 million people who've come to Christ over the period of his very long ministry. They give millions of dollars to help the poor. And they can't they couldn't do that if it was a little ministry.

I've watched this ministry up close and personal. I also flew to Manila back in 1981. It was the first overseas crusade that he did. Since then, of course, he's done many. And I got to know the ministry up close and personal. I was there for a couple of weeks with them. Everyone I've ever known in that ministry has always been high-caliber, ethical, they tell the truth. There isn't a lot of double dealing. I've seen that they give very, very generously. As a personal Christian, rather than through my organization or anything else, I support this ministry every month. I regularly give to this ministry because I believe in it. It's one of the most generous ministries. I've seen them all up close and personal. There are preachers who emphasize prosperity gospel and they do it because they really do want a big lifestyle. From what I've seen the Copelands, I've been out to their headquarters in Fort Worth, and they're very nice, but it's not ostentatious. It isn't a monument to Kenneth Copeland. It's an ongoing ministry that will outlive him, and will continue, I'm sure, after he's in heaven, because none of us live forever. I want to say that I admired the way he handled it. He was polite to the lady, he shared with her the gospel. At the end, he grabbed her hand and asked her name, and even prayed for her. She said something about both of her grandfather's being sort of poor preachers and this undoubtedly colored her own view.

 

Where to Find Stephen Strang on the Internet

· The Strang Report on Charismamag.com

· The Strang Report on cpnshows.com

· On Twitter

· On Facebook

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