In Depth with Jim Bakker Part One: The Early Years

In Depth with Jim Bakker Part One: The Early Years

Jim Bakker, the host of The Jim Bakker Show and founder of Morningside, tells the story of how a prophetic intercessor pronounced seven prophecies over him as a young man. In this exclusive interview, Bakker reveals all of those prophecies have come true except one, that he would help usher in the coming of the Lord.

30 Minutes • 15 days ago

Episode Notes

In Depth with

Stephen Strang

Guest: Jim Bakker

Jim Bakker, the host of The Jim Bakker Show and founder of Morningside, tells the story of how a prophetic intercessor pronounced seven prophecies over him as a young man.

In this exclusive interview, Bakker reveals all of those prophecies have come true except one, that he would help usher in the coming of the Lord.


Introduction

Stephen Strang: Hello everyone. I'm Stephen Strang and welcome to this new format for my podcast. I'm calling it In-Depth with Stephen Strang and today I'm going in-depth with my longtime friend, Jim Bakker, and we're here at Morningside in southern Missouri. If you haven't been here, you need to come here because it is magnificent. And Jim was kind enough to invite me to be on to introduce my new book, Trump Aftershock, which we kind of premiered right here on the Jim Bakker Show. I wanted to practice doing a podcast in this new format. And of course, I have a certain curiosity myself to go in-depth with Jim Bakker. He was kind enough to do it and to videotape it. And, someone had the bright idea to give this to the people who respond to the offer. So, this is actually going to go out to Jim's partners, the ones that respond today. I didn't really have that in mind, but I'll play this as my podcast.

 

·         Read the Strang Report: Intercessor Prophesies Jim Bakker Would Help usher in Lord’s Return

 

Jim, thank you for agreeing to be on my podcast. I don't usually have guests as famous as you but you know, you've been around and you've seen it all. Today what I want to do is talk about things that may be the listeners and the viewers don't know about you. Now, you live your life in front of that camera. If it comes to your mind, you just share it. But let's talk a little bit about how you started.

 

Jim Bakker: Can I say is we start that I have not done a real interview with press and media in decades? I just don't do it. I'm not happy anymore with the press because it always changes things. So, I trust you. But I know you're a journalist, and that's a little scary.

 

Jim Bakker on Charisma

·         ‘God and Donald Trump’ Impresses Avid Trump Supporter Jim Bakker

·         Jim Bakker: Back from the Brink

·         Jim Bakker: At My Lowest Moment, Billy Graham Visited Me in Prison

 

Stephen Strang: But I'm a Christian journalist, and what you're talking about is the secular media which has gone very left. I saw this in the 1970s when I was in secular journalism myself and made a decision to kind of get out of that world because I could see where it was going. I jumped over and basically had to create my own media to do what I wanted to do and you were a huge inspiration to me in those early days of PTL.

 

Jim Bakker: I would really, and I'll tell you this, when I get to the point where I think I only have a short time to live, I would like to do a short book with you. I'm telling you this ahead of time so you’ll know. I have things that I've been wanting to say. I would like to say your book on Trump, and you've written two books on Trump, fabulous books. My life is so parallel with what they've done to Trump, the same attract the same things that I've never even discussed with anybody but Lori, my wife, and I would love, just for the record, say just even for my own kids’ sake and for my friends’ sake, I want them to know the diabolical scheme that what they've done to President Trump and what they did to me, you have no idea of the real story. I would love to tell it sometime.

 

Strang Report Podcast with Jim Bakker

·         Jim Bakker has the Heart of a Changed Man

 

Stephen Strang: We want to delve down a little bit today. Of course, there's only so much we can do in 30 minutes. Really, I want to talk more about the personal things. So, let's start early in your life. I've read about you, I read your book, a 600-page book, I was Wrong, and you went into a lot of it there, but you were born in Michigan. Very early you showed an interest in broadcasting as a teenager. Weren't you in plays? You were always doing things like that. What actually got you started?

 

Jim Bakker: You know it's really strange because Paul Crouch was our youth pastor when I was a youth. Is that wild? Everywhere he went in that era he would build these low-power radio stations. He was building one at Central Assembly of God in Muskegon, Michigan, my home church, and I loved it. I loved broadcasting. So, in high school, I was a journalist. The thing that changed my life was photography. In fact, in my early years I failed several grades as a youth. I graduated in the top of my class, mainly because I had a journalist professor who taught photography. I then I took journalism and I was the editor of the school paper. So, we did plays and we did a big variety show. In fact, there was a woman in the show today whose husband we met when I was 16. Her husband, he's gone to be with the Lord. I was fascinated by theatre, by broadcasting. I remember the first time I ever went into a TV station on a tour, WOOD in Grand Rapids, Michigan, and I was fascinated by it. But I took art, I took all kinds of things mainly at that point in high school because it the subjects were easy. So, I took photography. do you see these cameras? That's my been my whole life for almost 60 years now. So, God had me in art and I only took it because I thought it'd be an easy subject. But you need color, you need to understand it. I ended up designing studios and building studios and all these things. It was a miracle when God called me in my senior year to preach the gospel.

 

Stephen Strang: Back when you were in high school and you're doing all these things with the school paper in photography, what were you preparing yourself for before you got that call?

 

Jim Bakker: I didn't know. Even in my high school annual it says I want to be the best at whatever I do. But it was in the last months that God called me. So, I told my speech teacher that I was going to be a preacher, and so she had me preach to practice speech. So, God did all this and then I went to North Central Bible College right from high school. I went there, took the train, which is unusual, all the way from Muskegon Chicago up to Minneapolis. It was amazing. I had no money. I had enough money for a bowl of soup.

 

Stephen Strang: So, when you got up there, what did you major in, Bible theology? You wanted to become a pastor, an Assemblies of God pastor.

 

Jim Bakker: I just wanted to preach the gospel do the work of an evangelist.

 

Stephen Strang: So what kind of things did you do back then? Did you do youth groups or street ministry?

 

Jim Bakker: At North Central Bible College, they found out that I edited my high school paper, so I became editor of the college newspaper, Northern Lights I think was the name of it. Bible college was amazing years. I was known as a holy Joe, they called me, because all I wanted to do was read the Bible and pray. I would go down the in the basement; it was like a dungeon almost but it was a prayer room down there. I sought God and the presence of God would come on my life. I remember God calling me to pray for the sick. I remember Him telling me I want you to go and one hand one hand on the sick and you put the other hand on my body and He said, I'm going to heal people.

 

Stephen Strang: What was the first healing that caught your attention?

 

Jim Bakker: I watched Oral Roberts on television, and Oral Roberts became my friendI loved Oral so much. When I got to know him, he treated me with such respect. I'm gonna tell you stuff I've never told anybody. I shouldn't be telling it now. But he would put his hand on my head and he always came and he said, Jim, your brain has the greatest power of anybody I've ever prayed for. He said it just radiates from you. He says I love to pick your brain. I love to walk with you through Heritage USA. Oral Roberts taught me things. But I watched his TV show while I was in Bible school. Before I went to Bible school, I would cry over people being healed. And I asked God, I want to do that. I want to heal people. I want people to get healed. That's the first miracles I witnessed. But then as I went into Christian television, I would have meetings and the auditoriums were packed, people even on the outside and people being healed. I remember one lady was so crippled that she was just a twisted mess. I remember laying hands on her that she fell to the floor just like a mass. You know what I mean? She was all tangled up. And in the name of Jesus, she stood up and she was healed. She was so amazingly healed. Another woman was there. I remember that same meeting, and this woman came onto the stage. We're standing here and I asked one of the people with me, I said, what is this woman doing here? And he said, she just walked out of that wheelchair. The next few days, she actually came then to the TV show, the 700 Club, which I'd started with Pat Robertson. And she came and said, she was so marvelously healed. She hadn't walked in yearsThat week, she started mowing her lawn. Her neighbors went crazy, they knew she could walk. She couldn't do anything. But she was out knowing her lawn. She even went out for gas. She usually couldn’t walk out of the car and the filling station people were just … they couldn't believe it. But those were the miracles. Christian television was built on the supernatural power of God. That's what we need to get back to. We need more of the anointing of God. I need it. I'm looking for a whole new revolution in my TV ministry. I'm praying that God will bring back … I mean, I watch Pat Robertson and the power of God would come in those early days in that little studio we had. The power would be so heavy that Pat would take your shoes off and God would just say you're on holy ground. The camera people were weeping until at some point, none of them could run the cameras anymore. They needed to lock the cameras down and the power of the Holy Spirit … this the thing I wish Christian television could understand. People say oh well let's make movies or let's do this or let's do that. No, let's have the Holy Spirit move. That's what birthed Christian television.

 

For the rest of Stephen’s part 1 interview with Jim Bakker, please visit cpnshows.com.

 

Connect with Jim Bakker

·         Jimbakkershow.com

·         On YouTube

·         On Facebook

·         On Twitter


Where to Find Stephen Strang on the Internet

·         The Strang Report on Charismamag.com

·         The Strang Report on cpnshows.com

·         On Twitter

·         On Facebook

Episode Notes

In Depth with

Stephen Strang

Guest: Jim Bakker

Jim Bakker, the host of The Jim Bakker Show and founder of Morningside, tells the story of how a prophetic intercessor pronounced seven prophecies over him as a young man.

In this exclusive interview, Bakker reveals all of those prophecies have come true except one, that he would help usher in the coming of the Lord.


Introduction

Stephen Strang: Hello everyone. I'm Stephen Strang and welcome to this new format for my podcast. I'm calling it In-Depth with Stephen Strang and today I'm going in-depth with my longtime friend, Jim Bakker, and we're here at Morningside in southern Missouri. If you haven't been here, you need to come here because it is magnificent. And Jim was kind enough to invite me to be on to introduce my new book, Trump Aftershock, which we kind of premiered right here on the Jim Bakker Show. I wanted to practice doing a podcast in this new format. And of course, I have a certain curiosity myself to go in-depth with Jim Bakker. He was kind enough to do it and to videotape it. And, someone had the bright idea to give this to the people who respond to the offer. So, this is actually going to go out to Jim's partners, the ones that respond today. I didn't really have that in mind, but I'll play this as my podcast.

 

·         Read the Strang Report: Intercessor Prophesies Jim Bakker Would Help usher in Lord’s Return

 

Jim, thank you for agreeing to be on my podcast. I don't usually have guests as famous as you but you know, you've been around and you've seen it all. Today what I want to do is talk about things that may be the listeners and the viewers don't know about you. Now, you live your life in front of that camera. If it comes to your mind, you just share it. But let's talk a little bit about how you started.

 

Jim Bakker: Can I say is we start that I have not done a real interview with press and media in decades? I just don't do it. I'm not happy anymore with the press because it always changes things. So, I trust you. But I know you're a journalist, and that's a little scary.

 

Jim Bakker on Charisma

·         ‘God and Donald Trump’ Impresses Avid Trump Supporter Jim Bakker

·         Jim Bakker: Back from the Brink

·         Jim Bakker: At My Lowest Moment, Billy Graham Visited Me in Prison

 

Stephen Strang: But I'm a Christian journalist, and what you're talking about is the secular media which has gone very left. I saw this in the 1970s when I was in secular journalism myself and made a decision to kind of get out of that world because I could see where it was going. I jumped over and basically had to create my own media to do what I wanted to do and you were a huge inspiration to me in those early days of PTL.

 

Jim Bakker: I would really, and I'll tell you this, when I get to the point where I think I only have a short time to live, I would like to do a short book with you. I'm telling you this ahead of time so you’ll know. I have things that I've been wanting to say. I would like to say your book on Trump, and you've written two books on Trump, fabulous books. My life is so parallel with what they've done to Trump, the same attract the same things that I've never even discussed with anybody but Lori, my wife, and I would love, just for the record, say just even for my own kids’ sake and for my friends’ sake, I want them to know the diabolical scheme that what they've done to President Trump and what they did to me, you have no idea of the real story. I would love to tell it sometime.

 

Strang Report Podcast with Jim Bakker

·         Jim Bakker has the Heart of a Changed Man

 

Stephen Strang: We want to delve down a little bit today. Of course, there's only so much we can do in 30 minutes. Really, I want to talk more about the personal things. So, let's start early in your life. I've read about you, I read your book, a 600-page book, I was Wrong, and you went into a lot of it there, but you were born in Michigan. Very early you showed an interest in broadcasting as a teenager. Weren't you in plays? You were always doing things like that. What actually got you started?

 

Jim Bakker: You know it's really strange because Paul Crouch was our youth pastor when I was a youth. Is that wild? Everywhere he went in that era he would build these low-power radio stations. He was building one at Central Assembly of God in Muskegon, Michigan, my home church, and I loved it. I loved broadcasting. So, in high school, I was a journalist. The thing that changed my life was photography. In fact, in my early years I failed several grades as a youth. I graduated in the top of my class, mainly because I had a journalist professor who taught photography. I then I took journalism and I was the editor of the school paper. So, we did plays and we did a big variety show. In fact, there was a woman in the show today whose husband we met when I was 16. Her husband, he's gone to be with the Lord. I was fascinated by theatre, by broadcasting. I remember the first time I ever went into a TV station on a tour, WOOD in Grand Rapids, Michigan, and I was fascinated by it. But I took art, I took all kinds of things mainly at that point in high school because it the subjects were easy. So, I took photography. do you see these cameras? That's my been my whole life for almost 60 years now. So, God had me in art and I only took it because I thought it'd be an easy subject. But you need color, you need to understand it. I ended up designing studios and building studios and all these things. It was a miracle when God called me in my senior year to preach the gospel.

 

Stephen Strang: Back when you were in high school and you're doing all these things with the school paper in photography, what were you preparing yourself for before you got that call?

 

Jim Bakker: I didn't know. Even in my high school annual it says I want to be the best at whatever I do. But it was in the last months that God called me. So, I told my speech teacher that I was going to be a preacher, and so she had me preach to practice speech. So, God did all this and then I went to North Central Bible College right from high school. I went there, took the train, which is unusual, all the way from Muskegon Chicago up to Minneapolis. It was amazing. I had no money. I had enough money for a bowl of soup.

 

Stephen Strang: So, when you got up there, what did you major in, Bible theology? You wanted to become a pastor, an Assemblies of God pastor.

 

Jim Bakker: I just wanted to preach the gospel do the work of an evangelist.

 

Stephen Strang: So what kind of things did you do back then? Did you do youth groups or street ministry?

 

Jim Bakker: At North Central Bible College, they found out that I edited my high school paper, so I became editor of the college newspaper, Northern Lights I think was the name of it. Bible college was amazing years. I was known as a holy Joe, they called me, because all I wanted to do was read the Bible and pray. I would go down the in the basement; it was like a dungeon almost but it was a prayer room down there. I sought God and the presence of God would come on my life. I remember God calling me to pray for the sick. I remember Him telling me I want you to go and one hand one hand on the sick and you put the other hand on my body and He said, I'm going to heal people.

 

Stephen Strang: What was the first healing that caught your attention?

 

Jim Bakker: I watched Oral Roberts on television, and Oral Roberts became my friendI loved Oral so much. When I got to know him, he treated me with such respect. I'm gonna tell you stuff I've never told anybody. I shouldn't be telling it now. But he would put his hand on my head and he always came and he said, Jim, your brain has the greatest power of anybody I've ever prayed for. He said it just radiates from you. He says I love to pick your brain. I love to walk with you through Heritage USA. Oral Roberts taught me things. But I watched his TV show while I was in Bible school. Before I went to Bible school, I would cry over people being healed. And I asked God, I want to do that. I want to heal people. I want people to get healed. That's the first miracles I witnessed. But then as I went into Christian television, I would have meetings and the auditoriums were packed, people even on the outside and people being healed. I remember one lady was so crippled that she was just a twisted mess. I remember laying hands on her that she fell to the floor just like a mass. You know what I mean? She was all tangled up. And in the name of Jesus, she stood up and she was healed. She was so amazingly healed. Another woman was there. I remember that same meeting, and this woman came onto the stage. We're standing here and I asked one of the people with me, I said, what is this woman doing here? And he said, she just walked out of that wheelchair. The next few days, she actually came then to the TV show, the 700 Club, which I'd started with Pat Robertson. And she came and said, she was so marvelously healed. She hadn't walked in yearsThat week, she started mowing her lawn. Her neighbors went crazy, they knew she could walk. She couldn't do anything. But she was out knowing her lawn. She even went out for gas. She usually couldn’t walk out of the car and the filling station people were just … they couldn't believe it. But those were the miracles. Christian television was built on the supernatural power of God. That's what we need to get back to. We need more of the anointing of God. I need it. I'm looking for a whole new revolution in my TV ministry. I'm praying that God will bring back … I mean, I watch Pat Robertson and the power of God would come in those early days in that little studio we had. The power would be so heavy that Pat would take your shoes off and God would just say you're on holy ground. The camera people were weeping until at some point, none of them could run the cameras anymore. They needed to lock the cameras down and the power of the Holy Spirit … this the thing I wish Christian television could understand. People say oh well let's make movies or let's do this or let's do that. No, let's have the Holy Spirit move. That's what birthed Christian television.

 

For the rest of Stephen’s part 1 interview with Jim Bakker, please visit cpnshows.com.

 

Connect with Jim Bakker

·         Jimbakkershow.com

·         On YouTube

·         On Facebook

·         On Twitter


Where to Find Stephen Strang on the Internet

·         The Strang Report on Charismamag.com

·         The Strang Report on cpnshows.com

·         On Twitter

·         On Facebook

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