How God Invites us to Shape History with Dr. David Kubal

How God Invites us to Shape History with Dr. David Kubal

Prayer indeed makes a difference, in every aspect of life. But Dr. David Kubal, president of Intercessors for America, explains how God invites us to shape history. Unified prayer can tear down tremendous strongholds, including ones like the Berlin Wall in 1989. 

  

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Episode Notes

The Strang Report

with Stephen Strang

Guest: Dr. David Kubal

 

Prayer indeed makes a difference, in every aspect of life. But Dr. David Kubal, president of Intercessors for America, explains how God invites us to shape history. Unified prayer can tear down tremendous strongholds, including ones like the Berlin Wall in 1989. 

Introduction

Stephen Strang: There was a plaque in my home when I was growing up that said, “Prayer Changes Things.” I know that as a believer you believe that, or at least hypothetically we believe that. But you know, there's a rising consciousness within the body of Christ that prayer really does change things and that we should focus our prayer. We usually call it intercession. And Today my guest on the Strang Report is the president of Intercessors for America, Dave Kubal. We talked about a lot of things, but you will be fascinated by the story he tells about the role of intercession and how it pulled down the Berlin Wall. So, listen to my interview with the president of Intercessors for America. David Kubal.

You're the president and CEO of Intercessors for America which is a very important ministry that I have known for many, many years. The question I have for you is what is the difference between prayer and intercession?

 

·         Read the Strang Report: Intercessor: Spirit-Fueled Prayer Will Overturn ‘Roe v. Wade’ in Our Lifetime

 

David Kubal: That’s such a great question and it's such a great opportunity to chat with you today and all of your listeners about such an important topic. Prayer and intercession, those words are kind of used interchangeably. You can develop different definitions. But, prayer I believe, is telling God what you want. It's not bad to bring before the Lord your list of prayer needs and things that are upon your heart, and we certainly all do that. But intercession is a whole different level. Intercession is letting God tell us what He wants. It begins with reading Scripture and understanding God's plans and purposes for our lives and for our family and our nation that we live in, and really listening to God to hear what His heart is to pray and to intercede in this particular moment in time in order to release His destiny for the nation. I've just been captured with a thought that He invites us to shape history with Him. You know the Scriptures as well as I. The Chronicle scriptures says if my people, and that's the invitation, if we pray. There are all sorts of scriptures in Jeremiah and Ezekiel that say if we repent, God will relent. So, it's just fascinating to me that history really belongs to the intercessor. I think that's something really important for listeners to remember and to realize that intercession is about listening to God to see what His heart is in these matters and releasing history through interacting with the Lord through intercession.

Stephen Strang: Over the years, Charisma magazine has written many, many times on prayer and intercession and the importance of it. We've given people platforms to do this. I remember Derek Prince being the first one to connect me with Intercessors for America back in the mid-1970s.  But actually you started in 1973. Why did this ministry start?

 

David Kubal: Actually, Derek Prince was at the genesis of this ministry. He wrote a book in 1973, Shaping History Through Prayer and Fasting. Part of his releasing this book to the nations was he was speaking at a conference and he challenged those at this conference to form a ministry to pray and intercede for the nation. This was all right after Roe v. Wade was an opinion that came out of our Supreme Court and legalized abortion on demand. So, the necessity to pray and intercede … you know it's interesting the founders of Intercessors for America, they believe that IFA would last maybe a couple, three years to pray through the Bicentennial. That was the original thought. By then they would see Roe v. Wade overturned. So, obviously we still continue to labor in that realm and I believe that you and I see we'll see Roe v. Wade overturned very shortly, definitely in our lifetime for sure.

Stephen Strang: Help the listener who may want to have a deep prayer life to know how to pray; maybe some resources. Recently I had Mike Bickle on my podcast, and he's well known to my listeners into the readers of Charisma magazine. They have the International House of Prayer where they have 24-hour prayer. Of course, a lot of that is sort of worship and what they call the harp and the bowl. What you do is very different. So, how would people be involved in Intercessors for America? What resources do you have? How do you train people? How do you mobilize people all over the country?

 

David Kubal Books

·         Inspired Prayers: Praying the Scripture Promises That motivated Our Founding Fathers

·         Legacy of Character

 

David Kubal: The best answer to that is you can go to our webpage and see all sorts of resources that we offer. We have a regular news feed that offers prayer requests. We have all sorts of special reports and intercessory intelligence reports to know how to pray for things. But more than anything, we're trying to fuel a community of intercessors that feel a part of belonging with a team of people that are shaping history. We reach millions and millions of people on a monthly basis. We just see people enjoy resonating as they pray together and as they communicate. So, I really encourage people to go to our website. But more than anything I believe that people need inspiration to really be motivated to pray on a regular basis. One of the things that we're battling right now in America is a wave of socialism that's coming against our nation. We see in the headlines almost every single day. I really believe we can make a difference in intercession to fight this wave of socialism. I recall the story of the Berlin Wall. Most of your listeners will probably remember that famous speech made by the great president, President Reagan in 1987, when he said, “Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall.” Well, the wall actually didn't come down for two more years. There is actually a story that indicates that prayer was the real reason the Berlin Wall came down because five years before President Reagan ever went to Germany for that famous speech, a small prayer gathering began to meet on Monday nights. This reverend by the name of Reverend Christian Fuhrer, gathered just a small handful of people to pray every Monday night and they would gather imported candles every Monday night and light them and pray for peace. They saw their country as if it was wandering in the desert, like the Israelites for 40 years. So, they lit those candles and prayed. For many years, the chairman of the Socialist Party there didn't know about it. So, he just let it slide. But slowly, over time, spies infiltrated this growing prayer movement in East Germany. So, they actually began to persecute some of the Christians that were part of this prayer movement. One time, Reverend Fuhrer was thrown in the snow and left for dead. Some of the people would lose their jobs as a part of this prayer gathering. But they prayed and interceded for five years. Then President Reagan busts onto the scene and does his famous speech and calls out Gorbachev to tear down the wall. I'm sure it had dramatic effect, but I think that the thing that got Reagan there was the prayers of these intercessors. I can tell you that because it was two years after Reagan's famous speech that Pastor Fuhrer gathered his people on a Monday night as usually did, and this time he put candles in the hands of each one of the intercessors and he instructed them to light the candle and then march. This prayer gathering was actually in the town of Leipzig. They were instructed that particular evening to light the candles and march from the church where they were meeting to the center of the city. Somehow the word got out. So, Erich Honecker put troops in the streets, he put tanks in the roads where they knew that the marchers would go. But at this point time, the prayer gathering grew to a pretty good size. There were a couple of thousand actually who left the church on a peaceful march with nothing but prayers and candles and they began to march down the streets. They could have been killed; the soldiers could have fired upon them at any moment in time. But at this particular moment, two years after Reagan gave his famous speech, these martyrs marched with prayer and candles down the center of Leipzig and, slowly, one by one, the soldiers put down their guns and began to pick up candles and march. Wouldn’t you know it, within a month of this event, Erich Honecker resigned from his position and the wall began to come down. So, most of us in America think that it was Reagan that actually brought down the Berlin Wall. But I can tell you that history points to the fact that it was actually the intercessors who interceded and prayed for seven years and then did one final prophetic act by going out into the city and to march for peace. It's the intercessors that shaped the history of Germany. History will forever be evident of this fact that intercession can affect history.

For the rest of Stephen’s interview with David Kubal, please visit cpnshows.com.

Connect with David Kubal

·         On Facebook

·         Facebook Intercessors for America

·         On Twitter

 

Where to Find Stephen Strang on the Internet

·         The Strang Report on Charismamag.com

·         The Strang Report on cpnshows.com

·         On Twitter

·         On Facebook

Episode Notes

The Strang Report

with Stephen Strang

Guest: Dr. David Kubal

 

Prayer indeed makes a difference, in every aspect of life. But Dr. David Kubal, president of Intercessors for America, explains how God invites us to shape history. Unified prayer can tear down tremendous strongholds, including ones like the Berlin Wall in 1989. 

Introduction

Stephen Strang: There was a plaque in my home when I was growing up that said, “Prayer Changes Things.” I know that as a believer you believe that, or at least hypothetically we believe that. But you know, there's a rising consciousness within the body of Christ that prayer really does change things and that we should focus our prayer. We usually call it intercession. And Today my guest on the Strang Report is the president of Intercessors for America, Dave Kubal. We talked about a lot of things, but you will be fascinated by the story he tells about the role of intercession and how it pulled down the Berlin Wall. So, listen to my interview with the president of Intercessors for America. David Kubal.

You're the president and CEO of Intercessors for America which is a very important ministry that I have known for many, many years. The question I have for you is what is the difference between prayer and intercession?

 

·         Read the Strang Report: Intercessor: Spirit-Fueled Prayer Will Overturn ‘Roe v. Wade’ in Our Lifetime

 

David Kubal: That’s such a great question and it's such a great opportunity to chat with you today and all of your listeners about such an important topic. Prayer and intercession, those words are kind of used interchangeably. You can develop different definitions. But, prayer I believe, is telling God what you want. It's not bad to bring before the Lord your list of prayer needs and things that are upon your heart, and we certainly all do that. But intercession is a whole different level. Intercession is letting God tell us what He wants. It begins with reading Scripture and understanding God's plans and purposes for our lives and for our family and our nation that we live in, and really listening to God to hear what His heart is to pray and to intercede in this particular moment in time in order to release His destiny for the nation. I've just been captured with a thought that He invites us to shape history with Him. You know the Scriptures as well as I. The Chronicle scriptures says if my people, and that's the invitation, if we pray. There are all sorts of scriptures in Jeremiah and Ezekiel that say if we repent, God will relent. So, it's just fascinating to me that history really belongs to the intercessor. I think that's something really important for listeners to remember and to realize that intercession is about listening to God to see what His heart is in these matters and releasing history through interacting with the Lord through intercession.

Stephen Strang: Over the years, Charisma magazine has written many, many times on prayer and intercession and the importance of it. We've given people platforms to do this. I remember Derek Prince being the first one to connect me with Intercessors for America back in the mid-1970s.  But actually you started in 1973. Why did this ministry start?

 

David Kubal: Actually, Derek Prince was at the genesis of this ministry. He wrote a book in 1973, Shaping History Through Prayer and Fasting. Part of his releasing this book to the nations was he was speaking at a conference and he challenged those at this conference to form a ministry to pray and intercede for the nation. This was all right after Roe v. Wade was an opinion that came out of our Supreme Court and legalized abortion on demand. So, the necessity to pray and intercede … you know it's interesting the founders of Intercessors for America, they believe that IFA would last maybe a couple, three years to pray through the Bicentennial. That was the original thought. By then they would see Roe v. Wade overturned. So, obviously we still continue to labor in that realm and I believe that you and I see we'll see Roe v. Wade overturned very shortly, definitely in our lifetime for sure.

Stephen Strang: Help the listener who may want to have a deep prayer life to know how to pray; maybe some resources. Recently I had Mike Bickle on my podcast, and he's well known to my listeners into the readers of Charisma magazine. They have the International House of Prayer where they have 24-hour prayer. Of course, a lot of that is sort of worship and what they call the harp and the bowl. What you do is very different. So, how would people be involved in Intercessors for America? What resources do you have? How do you train people? How do you mobilize people all over the country?

 

David Kubal Books

·         Inspired Prayers: Praying the Scripture Promises That motivated Our Founding Fathers

·         Legacy of Character

 

David Kubal: The best answer to that is you can go to our webpage and see all sorts of resources that we offer. We have a regular news feed that offers prayer requests. We have all sorts of special reports and intercessory intelligence reports to know how to pray for things. But more than anything, we're trying to fuel a community of intercessors that feel a part of belonging with a team of people that are shaping history. We reach millions and millions of people on a monthly basis. We just see people enjoy resonating as they pray together and as they communicate. So, I really encourage people to go to our website. But more than anything I believe that people need inspiration to really be motivated to pray on a regular basis. One of the things that we're battling right now in America is a wave of socialism that's coming against our nation. We see in the headlines almost every single day. I really believe we can make a difference in intercession to fight this wave of socialism. I recall the story of the Berlin Wall. Most of your listeners will probably remember that famous speech made by the great president, President Reagan in 1987, when he said, “Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall.” Well, the wall actually didn't come down for two more years. There is actually a story that indicates that prayer was the real reason the Berlin Wall came down because five years before President Reagan ever went to Germany for that famous speech, a small prayer gathering began to meet on Monday nights. This reverend by the name of Reverend Christian Fuhrer, gathered just a small handful of people to pray every Monday night and they would gather imported candles every Monday night and light them and pray for peace. They saw their country as if it was wandering in the desert, like the Israelites for 40 years. So, they lit those candles and prayed. For many years, the chairman of the Socialist Party there didn't know about it. So, he just let it slide. But slowly, over time, spies infiltrated this growing prayer movement in East Germany. So, they actually began to persecute some of the Christians that were part of this prayer movement. One time, Reverend Fuhrer was thrown in the snow and left for dead. Some of the people would lose their jobs as a part of this prayer gathering. But they prayed and interceded for five years. Then President Reagan busts onto the scene and does his famous speech and calls out Gorbachev to tear down the wall. I'm sure it had dramatic effect, but I think that the thing that got Reagan there was the prayers of these intercessors. I can tell you that because it was two years after Reagan's famous speech that Pastor Fuhrer gathered his people on a Monday night as usually did, and this time he put candles in the hands of each one of the intercessors and he instructed them to light the candle and then march. This prayer gathering was actually in the town of Leipzig. They were instructed that particular evening to light the candles and march from the church where they were meeting to the center of the city. Somehow the word got out. So, Erich Honecker put troops in the streets, he put tanks in the roads where they knew that the marchers would go. But at this point time, the prayer gathering grew to a pretty good size. There were a couple of thousand actually who left the church on a peaceful march with nothing but prayers and candles and they began to march down the streets. They could have been killed; the soldiers could have fired upon them at any moment in time. But at this particular moment, two years after Reagan gave his famous speech, these martyrs marched with prayer and candles down the center of Leipzig and, slowly, one by one, the soldiers put down their guns and began to pick up candles and march. Wouldn’t you know it, within a month of this event, Erich Honecker resigned from his position and the wall began to come down. So, most of us in America think that it was Reagan that actually brought down the Berlin Wall. But I can tell you that history points to the fact that it was actually the intercessors who interceded and prayed for seven years and then did one final prophetic act by going out into the city and to march for peace. It's the intercessors that shaped the history of Germany. History will forever be evident of this fact that intercession can affect history.

For the rest of Stephen’s interview with David Kubal, please visit cpnshows.com.

Connect with David Kubal

·         On Facebook

·         Facebook Intercessors for America

·         On Twitter

 

Where to Find Stephen Strang on the Internet

·         The Strang Report on Charismamag.com

·         The Strang Report on cpnshows.com

·         On Twitter

·         On Facebook

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