IT'S NOT ALIENS: The Secret Truth Governments are Soft-Launching

What if the coming UFO disclosure isn’t about extraterrestrials—but a global deception?
In this explosive episode, Mike Signorelli is joined by Joseph Z, Alan DiDio, and Josh Hamstra to break down the rapidly emerging conversation around UFOs, UAPs (Unidentified Aerial Phenomena), and non-human intelligence—and why governments are beginning to normalize it.
This is no longer fringe. It’s strategic.
As official narratives shift and public belief in aliens rises, a critical question is being ignored: What are people actually encountering?
This episode delivers a biblical worldview on UFOs, aliens, and interdimensional beings, unpacking how ancient scripture already addresses spiritual entities, deception, and the battle for truth in the last days. From Genesis and the Nephilim to modern-day disclosure efforts, this conversation connects theology with current global developments in a way most are not prepared for.
If the Church does not define this moment, culture will—and many will be misled.
In this episode, we cover:
- UFO Disclosure 2026 and why governments are introducing “non-human intelligence”
- The difference between extraterrestrials and interdimensional beings
- A biblical explanation for aliens, Nephilim, and spiritual entities
- Why millions are vulnerable to deception without a biblical worldview
- How UFO narratives could shape a new global belief system
- The role of prophecy, discernment, and spiritual authority in the end times
This is not about fear.
It’s about understanding what’s real—and what isn’t.
Because when information increases but truth is absent, deception spreads.
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Right now, governments are soft, launching conversations about non human intelligence.
Speaker AHave you heard that phrase?
Speaker AUFOs, UAPs, and actual contact with what they're calling it extraterrestrials.
Speaker ABut I want you to listen carefully.
Speaker AWhat if I told you that the biggest disclosure that the world is waiting for is out already and I have the information to share it with you?
Speaker AAs a matter of fact, I think we're gonna share some things for the very first time here.
Speaker ABut here's the problem.
Speaker AThe church is not prepared if you are a born again believe.
Speaker AI'm telling you, you're not prepared.
Speaker AThat's why you're divinely watching this right now.
Speaker AThis, this has to be one of the greatest deceptions of our lifetime that's happening and God is equipping you.
Speaker ASo based on the information that's been entrusted to me and the men here by credible sources, and I believe I've earned your trust for you to believe that statement.
Speaker AMost people are asking the wrong question.
Speaker ASo they're asking if you know, is this real?
Speaker AWell, no, no, that's, that's not the right question.
Speaker AWe know that this is real.
Speaker AThe right question is, what is it?
Speaker AThat's what we're going to be talking about.
Speaker ASo I'm joined with special guests today and we're going to publicly announce and reveal the truth today.
Speaker ASo I want you to watch this while it's still up and publicly consumable, let's be honest, and we're going to dive in.
Speaker ASo I've got Joseph Z, a great friend, and you're just relentlessly exposing the works of darkness and giving such fresh revelation and ins.
Speaker AI want to thank you for that.
Speaker AJust guiding the body of Christ in such perilous times.
Speaker ASo thank you, Mike.
Speaker BThanks for having me.
Speaker BWhat a privilege to be with you on this amazing announcement and what we're dealing with today.
Speaker BThank you so much.
Speaker AYeah, we're going to go deep and, and I, I just, I just love what you do for the body of Christ and for the world.
Speaker ARight now I've got Alan Deo, who has been.
Speaker AI mean, you're an author.
Speaker AYou've legitimately studied these things on a very deep level.
Speaker ABut also as a, as a local church pastor and somebody who has devoted your life to equ and training and releasing people and mobilizing armies, like in a very literal way.
Speaker AEvery time I'm around him, I'm meeting more people that have been commissioned as a result.
Speaker AAnd I.
Speaker AYou just, it's very rare.
Speaker ASo I have the highest degree of Honor for both of you.
Speaker ABut Allan, thank you so much for being here.
Speaker CWell, thank you for talking about this.
Speaker CI think you're the only person crazy enough to have this conversation.
Speaker CI never wanted to be the alien guy myself.
Speaker CYes, I, I approach this as a skeptic.
Speaker CI wanted to see what does the word actually say.
Speaker CAnd most pastors are terrified to broach this issue because of the stigma attached to it, but I think that's quickly falling away.
Speaker CAnd thank you so much for being bold enough to say we need to have this conversation and set the tone before the enemy comes in and throws in all kinds of deception.
Speaker AYeah, absolutely.
Speaker AWell, both of you are extremely high iq and I think that sometimes.
Speaker AWell, you know, listen, I'm going to say it, but sometimes people think, you know, weird people talk about weird things.
Speaker ABut the reality is like right now I'm wrapping a master's in theology and I have a 4.0.
Speaker AAnd so it's like, you know, these are independent third party professors who are verifying Mike understands these texts and that's the reason why I bring that up.
Speaker AAnd so we are not anti intellectual.
Speaker AI think actually when I, when I read your books because you guys have authored so many incredible resources which we have linked, I see a true intellectualism, but I also see that prophetic edge where it's fully word, fully spirit.
Speaker AAnd so I believe if you go back to reformation age 500 years ago, they would be talking about this.
Speaker AI think so.
Speaker AYou know, and I think even historically, you know, not to go on a tangent, but it's only been the last hundred years where to be a Christian meant you couldn't be a scientist, you couldn't be an artist, you couldn't be.
Speaker AAnd so I think you guys represent bringing back that, that Renaissance man that's like, no, you know what, it's not off limits because historically a man of God was in government, was in the sciences, was in philosophy.
Speaker AAnd I think you represent a new breed that says it's not off limits because the word of God deals with it and I deal with the word of God, so I can talk about whatever the word of God talks about.
Speaker ASo we're gonna jump in on that.
Speaker AAnd then we've got Josh Hamstra, who you're somebody I've put a demand on recently because you are a prophetic voice in the younger years of your ministry.
Speaker AI know that God had used you internationally to really prophesy and you took a journey through entrepreneurship and you're still doing that to a degree.
Speaker ABut God as of recently has just been exploding your ministry as a prophetic voice.
Speaker ASo thank you for being here and I can't wait to see you bring in the insights.
Speaker AI'm just gonna give you guys a sneak.
Speaker AHe gave a word for 2027 that caused a very high level person who is privy to classified, you know, information, like literally brought that guy to a point of silence where he's like, like, wait a second, where did you get that?
Speaker AAnd you got it by the spirit.
Speaker AAnd so hopefully we're going to take some time to release that word for 2027.
Speaker AAre you, are you game?
Speaker BI'm ready for it.
Speaker DAnd just to say I feel like I'm a soldier sitting amongst generals right now and something, even when you were just talking, I was thinking this is not just a prophetic conversation, this is many, many years of you guys life going through the research.
Speaker DIt's.
Speaker DAnd so when you were saying this is not just a spiritual conversation, this is also an intellectual conversation of the books that have been written and the things.
Speaker DAnd I believe that we are going to hear things in this that have never been said before out loud.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker DAnd so stay through all of these.
Speaker DAll right?
Speaker AYeah, absolutely.
Speaker AWell, I'm just going to jump it off.
Speaker ASo I'm somebody who's talking about nephilim, you know, demons, all this stuff for decades and I was always the crazy guy.
Speaker AAnd then now you talk about Joe Rogan, Wes Huff.
Speaker AI mean this is the conversation of our day.
Speaker AAnd so there's a lot of things unfolding now.
Speaker ASo for those of you, let me get you caught up because I even have a vision right now that there's churches watching this whole churches that are watching this as a resource.
Speaker ASo I want to get you caught up.
Speaker ASo just recently our, our government registered aliens.gov and so there at the time of this recording, there is an impending disclosure.
Speaker ASo just like we saw with the Epstein files, there is going to be a release of a cache of files.
Speaker AWe don't know how many, but they're actively preparing those now.
Speaker ASo we've saw, we've seen Pete Hegseth, you know, Department of War, I mean the highest ranking officials of this nation, President Donald Trump himself mentioned these files that are going to be released.
Speaker AAnd when I saw my jaw dropped.
Speaker AI'll be honest.
Speaker AAliens.gov I mean, at first I thought surely this isn't real, but it is.
Speaker AAnd so for those of you who are thinking like what kind of Alex Jones conspiracy theory stuff that I tune into right now, I the, the reality Is you ha.
Speaker AYou cannot avoid this conversation.
Speaker AAnd let me just raise the stakes, because we're gonna.
Speaker AWe're gonna go there.
Speaker AI really believe that we, as we step into this mass deception, your children, your grandchildren are.
Speaker AThey could be a part of a portion of the body of Christ who fall away.
Speaker ABecause one of the things that is emerging is this ufo, alien, uap, extraterrestrial conversation emerging as a new world religion.
Speaker ASo I mark my words, and I want to get this on film just right off the jump, is I believe that as this disclosure happens, you're going to see Generation Zone actually start to adopt this as a religion.
Speaker AThe other thing is, I've done a lot of deep research myself.
Speaker AThere are people who have actually become Catholics as a result of going to the Vatican, searching the archives, and then saying, well, maybe this connects into the angelology of Catholicism.
Speaker ASo now you have another mass deception.
Speaker AAnd so this, I think, in a very practical way, could become a form of religion for people as they're participating in their own personal investigations.
Speaker AAnd then the other thing is, and I want to read this, and then we're just going to go for it.
Speaker AFor guys like us who've studied the text, there's not much that has surprised us, right?
Speaker AI mean, for us, we're like, we have a biblical explanation for all of this.
Speaker AUnfortunately, most people, even those of you watching right now, and I say this kindly, I say this as a father in the faith, are biblically illiterate.
Speaker ASo you don't know about the fall of Satan.
Speaker AYou think the first flood was Noah's flood.
Speaker AYou don't know about the Nephilim.
Speaker AYou don't understand.
Speaker AMaybe you're just getting into this stuff.
Speaker ASo when this release comes out, even there's going to be people that have called themselves Christians for many years who are so deceived by this that they just simply depart from the faith altogether.
Speaker ASo check this out.
Speaker AIn 2022, the cultural research center of Arizona, this is a Christian university, released the devastating results of this massive study regarding pastors holding a biblical worldview.
Speaker ASo 41 of senior pastors, 28% of associate pastors, 12% of children and youth pastors, and 13% of teaching pastors, which are guys that are tasked with getting up and preaching the word.
Speaker ASo had a biblical worldview.
Speaker ASo at best, that 40% of lead pastors actually have a biblical worldview.
Speaker AWhich means, could we see, after this disclosure, lead pastors deconstruction from the faith?
Speaker AIt's crazy.
Speaker AThen this is even crazier.
Speaker AIn 20, 25, they did more research.
Speaker AAnd the number of professing Christians.
Speaker AThis is people watching right now.
Speaker AOnly 6% held a biblical worldview.
Speaker ASo that means by this research, about 90 something percent of you watching right now are at risk of being deceived by this disclosure.
Speaker AThe alien, extraterrestrial, ufo, UAP conversation.
Speaker AAnd right now, because it hasn't happened yet, at the time of this podcast, you're like, I'm fine, but you're not.
Speaker ASo let's just jump in.
Speaker AWhat do you guys make of this?
Speaker AI know you've done a lot of deep research, but what, what can we anticipate?
Speaker ALet's get up ahead of it.
Speaker CWell, what's even worse, when you dig into those numbers, the more, the more likely you are to have a non biblical worldview is dependent upon your education.
Speaker CThe more theological education you've had, the less likely you are to have a biblical worldview.
Speaker CSo if you went to seminary, as example, as opposed to Bible college, you're less likely to have a biblical.
Speaker CIf you didn't go to Bible college at all and just went into ministry, you are more likely than the Bible college student to have a biblical worldview.
Speaker AWow.
Speaker CThere's something about our educational institutions that have been designed to deconstruct the faith.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker CThat just sucks the life and the hope out of believers when they go into it.
Speaker CWhich is why 75 to 80% of our children who are raised in Christian homes within one year of going to college, they backslide from their faith as well.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker ATalk about it.
Speaker CSo we've got to pay attention to that.
Speaker CAnd for the first time in history, in American history, there are more people who believe in aliens than believe in God in the United States of America.
Speaker CSo this is why it's no longer a fringe subject for us to be talking about.
Speaker CPastors have got to step up and say, no, here's what the Bible actually says.
Speaker CThat's how I got into this.
Speaker CI saw so many Christians going down the rabbit hole.
Speaker CAnd when you do that, there's something about conspiracy theories that warp the mind, something about it that draws people away, particularly from the Word.
Speaker CWhich is why I wanted to write about it.
Speaker CBecause I said, well, the Bible does talk about this.
Speaker CLet's keep people connected to the Word of God and not go to these extremes.
Speaker CBecause it seems like either you're not talking about it at all or you're completely detached from Scripture as you talk about it.
Speaker CSo that's why we need to be having this conversation and laying out a framework in these conversations for pastors watching so they can begin to teach their congregations as well.
Speaker AOh, so good.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BYou know, I'll say this, too, just to dovetail.
Speaker BWhat Alan's saying is that when people don't love the truth, they end up down this avenue.
Speaker BAnd education is not the answer.
Speaker BIt's powerful, but it's not the answer.
Speaker BI like to say it this way.
Speaker BMan or woman with a revelation from God Almighty is not at the mercy of a culture going mad.
Speaker BAnd there's a lot of people that are working in information but not revelation.
Speaker BBecause of that, they're missing the whole thing.
Speaker BAnd so I believe the Lord has a predicated word for many of us.
Speaker BWe're here with Josh, who prophesied about 2027.
Speaker BWe were in the room when people eyes got big because they had data that Josh was confirming prophetically.
Speaker BI thought that was profound.
Speaker BBack in 2020, I had an encounter where the Lord began to speak to me about this UFO narrative.
Speaker BThis is going to be a coming deception.
Speaker BThere's things that are coming down the pipeline that we need to be ready for.
Speaker BLeading all the way back to a moment that my wife even had an alien encounter and she rebuked it and it fled.
Speaker BAnd I can share that.
Speaker BBut the reason I bring this out is because I believe the Lord.
Speaker BIf we have ears to hear and eyes to see, we are being forewarned before the storm.
Speaker BAnd what is coming is going to be radical disclosure, radical things that are going to shake the environment.
Speaker BThere's people, Mike, that I know you've compiled names and scenarios that we're going to see that I believe, begin to deceive the masses.
Speaker BAnd they're going to be propped up as Christians.
Speaker BThey're going to be propped up as those that really have insight or even revelatory knowledge.
Speaker BBut it is all based on esoteric beliefs.
Speaker BIt's all based on mysticism.
Speaker BIt's all based on these lies.
Speaker BBut people are going to receive it like truth because they don't love the truth.
Speaker BAnd this is what we're here to counter.
Speaker BThis is what we're here to adjust.
Speaker BAnd it goes all the way back to the foundation of the Bible.
Speaker BLike you're saying, Alan, so powerfully, we've got to come back to that understanding.
Speaker BWe got to come back to it.
Speaker BBut I'm telling you, the world is not ready for what's about to come on the scene, even right around the corner, even in the next months in front of us.
Speaker BI know there's one individual that brought Some that was saying he had a visitation from somebody and he's predicting even Easter.
Speaker BNow.
Speaker BThey're predicting this.
Speaker BWe're predicting the glory of God and breakthrough in our time, but they're predicting that on Easter, get this, there's going to be orbs that appear or potentially Jesus come back, or the lady of Light are going to come back around Easter and maybe even solve the Iran war, or it's the second coming of Christ.
Speaker BEither way, something big is getting ready to happen and we're here to defy that in Jesus name.
Speaker AYeah, absolutely.
Speaker CLook at the dearth in these stats.
Speaker CSo you have 7 to 9% have a biblical worldview of Christians.
Speaker C37 To 45% of Americans believe they're living in the last days.
Speaker AYep.
Speaker CSo think about that for a moment.
Speaker CSo 35 to 42% of Americans believe Jesus could return in their lifetime when they're surveyed.
Speaker CBut only 9% have a biblical worldview.
Speaker CSo that means there's a large swath of people who know we're in this end time situation, but they have no grounding.
Speaker CThey have no way to discern what's right and no way to discern what's wrong.
Speaker CSo they're going to be easily deceived by what's coming down the pike, which is why we've got to get ahead of the narrative.
Speaker ACome on now.
Speaker AYeah, absolutely.
Speaker ACome on.
Speaker AThis is so important.
Speaker ASo here's what I want to do.
Speaker AI want to try to break down the fundamental elements of this as if people watching right now have no idea what we're talking about, because there's some people that are just starting on their journey now.
Speaker AFor some of you, this is going to be reviewed.
Speaker ABut I.
Speaker ALet's, let's start because this is something I was thinking about.
Speaker AWhen I look at the book of Genesis, I see it completely different than, you know, their Sunday school presented it.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker AI know you guys understand because you.
Speaker CGot a dank Bible right now.
Speaker BOh, yeah, that's.
Speaker AYeah, he's flexing now.
Speaker BHe's flexing.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker CThat's a battle action.
Speaker AThis is.
Speaker AAnd I've.
Speaker AI've taught out of this Bible for 25 years, plus this particular Bible.
Speaker ABut, you know, again, we.
Speaker AI want to introduce a term for everybody watching.
Speaker AAnd the term is interdimensional.
Speaker AAnd the reason why I want to introduce that is because these people.
Speaker AAnd you already started going there, they're reporting.
Speaker AI had an experience.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AWell, here's the thing.
Speaker AI would say your experience was real, but your interpretation of what your experience Was.
Speaker AIs deception.
Speaker AThat's really the reason why we have to talk about interdimensional.
Speaker AFor many of you watching.
Speaker ASo if only 6% of them have a biblical worldview, then they probably view the spiritual realm as separate than the physical realm.
Speaker ASo these are two different domains.
Speaker AWell, when I die, I go to heaven, and, you know, a few people encountered angels, and it's these separate.
Speaker AThe reason why I want to introduce the word interdimensional and why that's necessary and why it's biblical is because if you would open your Bible and read through the book of Genesis, angels are interacting with humans to the degree that they're affecting physical matter, then there's sexual interaction.
Speaker AAnd for every Christian watching right now is like, I don't know if I can believe that an angel would impregnate a woman.
Speaker AYou already believe that the Holy Spirit overshadowed Mary to conceive Christ.
Speaker BCome on.
Speaker ASo you're already in on the presupposition that a spirit can conceive a fully biological male.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AJesus Christ.
Speaker BYes.
Speaker ASo this is the way I've been saying it, because I'm trying to put language to this.
Speaker AAngels, they have the ability, but they didn't have the authority.
Speaker BThat is so well said that.
Speaker BBecause that's what people fight you.
Speaker AThis is what.
Speaker AYeah, because they have the ability to be interdimensional.
Speaker AThe question is, do they have the authority?
Speaker ASo when God tells the angel, I need you to go to Mary and make an announcement, he has the ability to physically manifest himself, but now he's been given the authority from God because it's an assignment.
Speaker ASo what was happening is these angels, according to the Book of Jude, you guys know the text, they leave their first estate, they leave their domain that they're supposed to stay in, and they have the ability to do it, but they illegally did it without the authority.
Speaker AAnd they are able to mate with women and they produce the Nephilim, which is a race of giants.
Speaker AAnd so the reason why I want to start there is now the next question is, when these giants died, what happens to.
Speaker AAnd this is another phrase that I coined recently.
Speaker AThey're decommissioned spirits.
Speaker AAnd the reason why I say decommissioned is there is no redemption for them.
Speaker ASo they don't go to heaven, they don't go to Purgatory, they don't go to hell.
Speaker AWhere do they go?
Speaker AAnd then, not only that, but we know that not all of the angels are in Tartarus that rebelled because it was specifically the ones that made it with women.
Speaker ASo you, you know, it's like, so you have angels that fell, that are not in chains in Tartarus, right.
Speaker AYou have angels that mated with women who had, had giants.
Speaker AAnd what happened to that spirit when they're released?
Speaker AAnd the reason why I'm saying this, I'm trying to boot all of you up.
Speaker AI'm like unplugging you from the Matrix and booting you up into the real world right now as fast as I can.
Speaker BRed pilled, ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker ARight, you as fast as I can do it.
Speaker AAnd the reason why I have to say this is because now you continue on in the text.
Speaker AWhat's happening before Sodom and Gomorrah's destruction.
Speaker AAngel, male angels show up.
Speaker AThey're so physically visible that the people of the city come around and say, we want to sodomize those angels.
Speaker AAnd not only that, but we have lot who actually feeds, cooks for them, feeds them.
Speaker ASo they're eating meals.
Speaker ASo because a lot of you watching right now, you have such an outdated view of these things that it's like a spirit's just floating around.
Speaker AIt's like, no, they had the ability,.
Speaker CThis was normal to them.
Speaker CThe idea of sexual relations with angels was normal to them.
Speaker CIt's normalized.
Speaker CThe angels are here.
Speaker CThis is what we're going to do.
Speaker AYeah, we've already heard the stories, we know people who've done it.
Speaker AThere's already a race of giants.
Speaker ASo we want to sodomize them, we want to sleep with them, which is crazy, but.
Speaker AAnd of course I'm trying to do this quickly, but you go New Testament, it's still normalized because it says, hey, you'll even entertain angels unaware man.
Speaker AIn other words, they'll present themselves in such a humanoid fashion that you won't even know you've had a full discussion.
Speaker AThat's right, you won't even know you've had, you've ate with them, just like lot ate with them.
Speaker AAs a matter of fact, the angels in Genesis, they're laying down, you know, they're just, they feed the prophet, they're doing all these physical activities and yet most of you watching right now because you don't have an understanding of this and you don't have a theology of being interdimensional, then when the conversation is introduced about aliens, UFO, extraterrestrials, you'll believe the lie.
Speaker CAnd here's even the scarlet thread that begins in Genesis chapter three that goes all throughout scripture.
Speaker CThis is the very first prophecy that's ever given the law of first mention.
Speaker CSo every Prophecy after this is stamped with this DNA and it's prophesied, I will put enmity between thee and the woman, between thy seed and her seed.
Speaker CAnd it shall bruise thy head and you will bruise his heel.
Speaker AYeah, Come on.
Speaker CNow, we always know that's a reference to Jesus, right?
Speaker CWe know that this is a literal prophecy about a physical man who will be in the earth.
Speaker CBut there are two seeds that are mentioned here.
Speaker CSo if the first part is a literal physical being, the seed of the woman, that means the seed of the serpent is also a literal physical being.
Speaker CAnd so we watch this thread and when you go through, even through the prophecies in Daniel into the Book of Revelation, we see the Antichrist.
Speaker CThis is a prophecy of the Antichrist, that he will be a literal physical person, a manifestation of the seed of Satan, which we saw played out in Genesis 6.
Speaker ASo good.
Speaker CWe see it mentioned in Daniel 2 and on and on.
Speaker CSo it's important to note that even at the very first prophecy in Scripture, we have this Nephilim type proto human demonic hybridization that's mentioned.
Speaker CAnd it just gets better from there.
Speaker AOh, that's so good.
Speaker BWell, we gotta mention the Book of Enoch.
Speaker BYou get into all that.
Speaker BSo the Book of Enoch, we gotta say right out of the gate, it's not canon, it's not scripture, but it is helpful.
Speaker BSimilar to the books of the Apocrypha.
Speaker BYou can look at it that way.
Speaker BHistorically, the Book of Enoch, interestingly enough, I think it's the first something.
Speaker B30 Chapters were found in the Dead Sea Scrolls.
Speaker BSo that means Jesus, that means Jude, that means people would have known the Book of Enoch.
Speaker BThe Book of Enoch gives great insight.
Speaker BNow, can we bank completely on it?
Speaker BThe answer is no.
Speaker BBut there is a lot of insight in it.
Speaker BWhen you compare that to Genesis 6, you get a bigger narrative than what's going on basically at face value in Scripture, and it fills in the blanks.
Speaker BSo to go back to one of your points, Mike, you talked about the giants were in the land.
Speaker BThese things were there, they died.
Speaker BI personally believe the giants left their nefarious wicked spirits behind.
Speaker BI think that's demons.
Speaker AI do too.
Speaker BAngels are totally different.
Speaker BYou never see angels possessing a human being except Satan with Judas.
Speaker BNow that's a whole other conversation just for your own study.
Speaker BJust look at the parallels between Judas and the Antichrist sometime.
Speaker BWe'll just leave that for now.
Speaker BBut it's very interesting.
Speaker BBut when you look at that picture, you recognize demon spirits are flooding the earth doing things.
Speaker BNow they're not limited by the same technologies we are.
Speaker BThey may have infinite access to technologies, interdimensional abilities.
Speaker BAnd you get to ask the question, do demon spirits need physical bodies?
Speaker BThe answer is yes.
Speaker BSo spirits of light, spirits of darkness, both need access to the natural.
Speaker BAnd this gets into some of the alien narrative we could be talking about.
Speaker BWhere do they get their access?
Speaker BHow do they do it?
Speaker BWhy do they abduct people?
Speaker BWhy do they go down these roads?
Speaker BIt could be that they're trying to extract DNA to create avatar type scenarios.
Speaker BI know that's a little extreme sounding, but avatar scenarios where they house inside of these avatar bodies like the Grays, because they have to play by the rules to get into the natural.
Speaker BThere's a lot we can get into with it, but I believe this is going to get more and more extreme as we go forward.
Speaker BSo that's where we're kind of being a little bit of shock rock jocks, I guess, before we go into this.
Speaker BBecause we've got to say it plain, because the world's going to say it plain.
Speaker BSo we got to get ready for.
Speaker AAnd thank you for being bold.
Speaker ASo the Book of Enoch is not, it's not canon, but it is context.
Speaker BIt is context.
Speaker AAnd I just recently revisited it and I was reading through First Enoch and you talk and it really does explain the context.
Speaker AOf course, you mentioned it's referenced in the Book of Jude.
Speaker AJude is dealing with the angelic and the demonic.
Speaker AAs a matter of fact, there's a war over the body of Moses.
Speaker ASo think about this.
Speaker AThere's a war over a physical body, the body of Moses.
Speaker AAnd Michael the Archangel tells Satan, you know, the Lord rebuke you.
Speaker ASo that is an interdimensional war.
Speaker AYeah, there's a physical body of Moses, there's angels, they're fighting.
Speaker AThe Book of Enoch is being referenced in the Book of Jude.
Speaker ASo it's not canon, but it is context.
Speaker BIt's good.
Speaker AAnd I also believe that, yeah, I mean, think about this.
Speaker AJesus goes to cast out a legion of demons, which is many, and they, they're demanding, please put us in a physical body.
Speaker AAnd of course they drown themselves so that they can go back into circulation to find a human body.
Speaker AAnd so when you talk about the grace, for those of you who are like, what did he just say?
Speaker AI know you hit the rewind button and you're like, did he just say grace?
Speaker ALet's talk about it though.
Speaker AI want to address that because as you said, you said the word seed and women mating with angels Creating a race of giants.
Speaker AYou can't deny that.
Speaker AI mean, if you believe in the story of David and Goliath, you're already in.
Speaker AYeah, it's just the thing is there are other Philistine giants.
Speaker AThere are other races of giants.
Speaker ASo you're already in on this.
Speaker AIt's just what we're doing is peeling back the layers past the coloring book.
Speaker ASo now it's a lot less weird that the serpent was a real serpent.
Speaker AIt all starts making sense.
Speaker BGood, Mike.
Speaker AAnd I think when we see the pictures, I want to get this on film too, because the date of this recording is like.
Speaker ABut when we start seeing pictures, videos, when we start hearing accounts, if you have, if you are biblically literate, if you've watched all of these episodes we're doing together right now, it's all going to make sense to you and you won't be deceived.
Speaker ABut when you talk about the grace and those physical bodies, why wouldn't they try to create a meat suit that they could inhabit?
Speaker ABecause was that not the exact same thing that we see in Genesis 6?
Speaker BHow about John 3, John chapter 3?
Speaker BJesus, you're going to be born of water and of spirit to Nicodemus.
Speaker BIn other words, you got to have a physical body to operate in the natural.
Speaker BYeah, you got to have it.
Speaker AAnd you see that pattern?
Speaker ADemons won in pigs.
Speaker AThey won in people.
Speaker ACome on, Mike.
Speaker ASo you see a pattern.
Speaker ASo to me, someone says, well, I interacted.
Speaker AYou're going to be the gray.
Speaker ASorry.
Speaker ABut I, you know.
Speaker BCongratulations.
Speaker AYeah, yeah.
Speaker AAnd.
Speaker AAnd it was a fully physical.
Speaker AIt's like.
Speaker AWell, yeah.
Speaker AWhat?
Speaker ABecause right now, what are we doing?
Speaker AGenetic editing.
Speaker AWe're doing it.
Speaker ACloning.
Speaker AWe're doing it.
Speaker AWe're already experimenting.
Speaker AAnd you, you guys know, in the dark recesses of labs overseas.
Speaker AI'm not putting this on America if my agents watch.
Speaker ABut in the dark recesses of.
Speaker AOf labs overseas, there, there are crazy things, you know, chimeras and weird stuff that we are not privy to.
Speaker AAnd so why not a demonic influence to get access to a body to interact with this dimension?
Speaker CWell, that was part of the meeting that we had this clandestine meeting where we met with formal officials we'll be talking about later, which is why we're having this conversation.
Speaker CWe were actually.
Speaker CThree of us were called.
Speaker CFour of us were called into a meeting where people are investigating the United States government and crimes they have committed in the process of obtaining technology and biology from non human origin.
Speaker CAnd they're trying to inform pastors so that they can inform their congregations before the deception comes.
Speaker CSo believers need to understand this.
Speaker CAnd I'm from the old school.
Speaker CI'm the boring guy who thinks demons are fallen angels.
Speaker CBut it doesn't matter.
Speaker BWhat matters is that.
Speaker ANo, let's talk about it.
Speaker BIt's good, brother.
Speaker CBecause what matters is, do you know you have authority over them in the name of Jesus?
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker CAnd as our friend Troy Brewer says, the question is, what camp are they from?
Speaker CYou know, it's not, you know, exactly what is this thing?
Speaker CWho do they represent?
Speaker CThat's what really matters.
Speaker CAnd we've had some meetings with some people with high levels of classification who say this information is forthcoming very, very quickly.
Speaker CAnd the moment we had the meeting nationally, we saw the same day presidents coming out and talking about this, former presidents and the current president.
Speaker CSo there's a lot to dive in here.
Speaker CAnd if you thought this was wild so far, oh, man, it's going to get wilder.
Speaker CSo in that meeting they were talking about.
Speaker CAbout how they are incubating fetuses and trying to hybridize.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker CIs that the right word?
Speaker AWe'll take it.
Speaker BWe took it.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AWe just added it to website.
Speaker BWe know your heart.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker CAnd it's wild what they're doing.
Speaker CAnd they're trying to find a way to disclose all this.
Speaker CAnd when this happens, along with the rise of super intelligence, super artificial intelligence, how are we going to know what's real and what's not?
Speaker CJoe Rogan just did a podcast and said if Jesus were to come back and somebody was there on the temple mountain and shot it with a cell phone, who would believe him?
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker DWow.
Speaker BWhat a statement.
Speaker CImagine that for a moment Jesus returns.
Speaker CYou've got on cell phone, it goes global.
Speaker CWho's going to believe that?
Speaker CIt's actually at the same time we've got all this AI.
Speaker CYou can't believe anything you see right now.
Speaker CWe do know the Bible says no one will have to tell you.
Speaker BWell, Allen's an expert on Project Blue Beam.
Speaker BOne of the big things we're going to do, and I don't know when we want to get into that, but there's so much want to unveil to everybody and I think we're getting a running start.
Speaker BAnd to your point, I feel that we're so close to what I call ultimate disclosure.
Speaker BNot just.
Speaker BI think it's going to be kind of a drip, drip, like he brings it out a little bit.
Speaker BThe White House brings more out.
Speaker BBut I believe over the next year and even to the prophecy you shared Josh, over the next year, I believe it's going to be massive.
Speaker BAnd that's including proof, video proof.
Speaker BMaybe they'll bring non human biologics into the light.
Speaker BMaybe they will show audio proof or they'll let these things talk.
Speaker BWho knows what they're going to do?
Speaker BBut my spirit tells me, based on the information empirically we're watching the information that's being disclosed to us and then even supernaturally the trend that's happening, I believe it's going to be bigger than we think.
Speaker BI don't know if it'll start bigger, but I believe it's going to arrive there to the point people say, oh my goodness, the Anunnaki put us here.
Speaker BOh my goodness, this is where it's going.
Speaker BWe were so before the beginning.
Speaker BOh God and the Godhead are all aliens in the book of Genesis.
Speaker BWe made you in our image.
Speaker BAnd I believe they're going to find that theme.
Speaker BAnd Alan, I like what you say.
Speaker BWe were doing a program previously too where you had said, you know, the Bible and Jesus, you guys are close.
Speaker CYeah, that's what.
Speaker BBut here's the real picture.
Speaker BThat's what you were saying.
Speaker CYeah, they're going to say what you saw in the scripture, that's close.
Speaker CAnd the way you started this conversation about the disclosure that's coming and what's going to happen, and I think I have a potential date from my sources.
Speaker CWe can talk about this maybe in one of the future broadcasts of a date that's been given to me this year when they expect disclosure to take place, which is really interesting.
Speaker CBut if the Church doesn't get ahead of this and begin to talk about this, then we're going to miss the boat and see a great falling away.
Speaker AYeah, exactly.
Speaker AAnd this is so vital.
Speaker AI want to say this.
Speaker AAnd we're going to kind of come to a close on this one because we're going to do a multi part because I want to go deep.
Speaker AThis was the fundamental elements and I, and I think that we did a good job of establishing that.
Speaker ABut let me just bluntly say this.
Speaker AI believe that there are minimum of four demonic propaganda arms that are going to be deployed when that disclosure happens.
Speaker AAnd I believe that there very well may be a situation where because of those four distinct arms of propaganda, that 100% of the interpretation of the data that you hear will be deception.
Speaker AThat's a big statement.
Speaker AThat's why I brought them together.
Speaker AI said, you have to come to New York City.
Speaker AWe have to sit at the table before the disclosure, because I'm convinced that what we're saying, the fact that we have our Bibles open to the book of Genesis and can defend it, the fact that we understand the book of Enoch and no context, the fact that we can synthesize all these ideas and say there is a logical, rational, biblical explanation for all of it, is probably the narrative you're not going to hear, but it's the only one that's true.
Speaker ASo, as a matter of fact, we were told in that off site, clandestine meeting that one of the demonic propaganda arms is going to seemingly corroborate with the Islamic.
Speaker AYeah, Take on the crucifixion of Christ, that it was actually, actually Judas.
Speaker AThat's right, because remote viewing actually revealed that, no, it was Judas that was crucified, not Christ.
Speaker ASo could we be months away from the global Islamic community celebrating.
Speaker ALook, it vindicates us, right?
Speaker AThen, as you mentioned, the ancient text people that the Anunnaki, the Egypt.
Speaker AOh, I get it.
Speaker AWe're from the stars.
Speaker AAnd they showed us into this particular planet.
Speaker AAnd the extraterrestrial, which my good friend Dr. Hugh Ross, who I've had on this channel multiple times, who is certifiably a genius, he's often the only Christian at the conferences that he does all around the world because he's a real astrophysicist and actually converted to Christianity as a result of the Genesis account of creation.
Speaker AAnd I just recently had him at V1, and he said, it is scientifically impossible for there to be extraterrestrials.
Speaker AAnd the whole theory of, well, look how big the cosmos are.
Speaker AThere must because of all this possibility.
Speaker ABut he's like, okay, as somebody whose mind far exceeds any of our ability, he's like, let's actually do that.
Speaker AHere's what it would be mathematically and proves that you would be an idiot.
Speaker AAnd I'm saying this to each and every one of you right now.
Speaker ATo actually think that just because of the size of the cosmos and the number of planets and the number of stars, that it's plausible for there to be extraterrestrials, meaning beings that exist in other worlds.
Speaker AWhen you look into the skies, Dr. Hugh Ross is like, no, I've.
Speaker AI've devoted my entire career to proving that false.
Speaker ABut the thing is, we.
Speaker AWe were raised on Spielberg propaganda.
Speaker AAnd guess who has a movie coming out this year?
Speaker AThis.
Speaker AThis summer?
Speaker BMr. Spielberg.
Speaker AMr. Spielberg.
Speaker AAnd so we've been so pumped full of propaganda our whole lives, and the truth is, most of you failed high school math.
Speaker AI mean, let's be honest.
Speaker AYou got people.
Speaker ABecause this is a day and age we live in.
Speaker APeople who never got past pre algebra telling a renowned astrophysicist there has to be extraterrestrials because look how big the sky is.
Speaker AAnd it's like, bro, you didn't even get.
Speaker AYou didn't even get to algebra two in high school.
Speaker ABut you're the expert now, right?
Speaker ABecause you so.
Speaker AAnd this.
Speaker AThis is why this podcast is so important.
Speaker AAnd these episodes.
Speaker AEpisodes that you guys signed up to do.
Speaker AAnd so if you're watching this, like, I want to go deeper, that's exactly what we're about to do.
Speaker ASo just click into the next one and let's do this thing.