May 5, 2026

IT'S NOT ALIENS: The Secret Truth Governments are Soft-Launching

IT'S NOT ALIENS: The Secret Truth Governments are Soft-Launching
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What if the coming UFO disclosure isn’t about extraterrestrials—but a global deception?

In this explosive episode, Mike Signorelli is joined by Joseph Z, Alan DiDio, and Josh Hamstra to break down the rapidly emerging conversation around UFOs, UAPs (Unidentified Aerial Phenomena), and non-human intelligence—and why governments are beginning to normalize it.

This is no longer fringe. It’s strategic.

As official narratives shift and public belief in aliens rises, a critical question is being ignored: What are people actually encountering?

This episode delivers a biblical worldview on UFOs, aliens, and interdimensional beings, unpacking how ancient scripture already addresses spiritual entities, deception, and the battle for truth in the last days. From Genesis and the Nephilim to modern-day disclosure efforts, this conversation connects theology with current global developments in a way most are not prepared for.

If the Church does not define this moment, culture will—and many will be misled.

In this episode, we cover:

  • UFO Disclosure 2026 and why governments are introducing “non-human intelligence”
  • The difference between extraterrestrials and interdimensional beings
  • A biblical explanation for aliens, Nephilim, and spiritual entities
  • Why millions are vulnerable to deception without a biblical worldview
  • How UFO narratives could shape a new global belief system
  • The role of prophecy, discernment, and spiritual authority in the end times

This is not about fear.

It’s about understanding what’s real—and what isn’t.

Because when information increases but truth is absent, deception spreads.

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Speaker A

Right now, governments are soft, launching conversations about non human intelligence.

Speaker A

Have you heard that phrase?

Speaker A

UFOs, UAPs, and actual contact with what they're calling it extraterrestrials.

Speaker A

But I want you to listen carefully.

Speaker A

What if I told you that the biggest disclosure that the world is waiting for is out already and I have the information to share it with you?

Speaker A

As a matter of fact, I think we're gonna share some things for the very first time here.

Speaker A

But here's the problem.

Speaker A

The church is not prepared if you are a born again believe.

Speaker A

I'm telling you, you're not prepared.

Speaker A

That's why you're divinely watching this right now.

Speaker A

This, this has to be one of the greatest deceptions of our lifetime that's happening and God is equipping you.

Speaker A

So based on the information that's been entrusted to me and the men here by credible sources, and I believe I've earned your trust for you to believe that statement.

Speaker A

Most people are asking the wrong question.

Speaker A

So they're asking if you know, is this real?

Speaker A

Well, no, no, that's, that's not the right question.

Speaker A

We know that this is real.

Speaker A

The right question is, what is it?

Speaker A

That's what we're going to be talking about.

Speaker A

So I'm joined with special guests today and we're going to publicly announce and reveal the truth today.

Speaker A

So I want you to watch this while it's still up and publicly consumable, let's be honest, and we're going to dive in.

Speaker A

So I've got Joseph Z, a great friend, and you're just relentlessly exposing the works of darkness and giving such fresh revelation and ins.

Speaker A

I want to thank you for that.

Speaker A

Just guiding the body of Christ in such perilous times.

Speaker A

So thank you, Mike.

Speaker B

Thanks for having me.

Speaker B

What a privilege to be with you on this amazing announcement and what we're dealing with today.

Speaker B

Thank you so much.

Speaker A

Yeah, we're going to go deep and, and I, I just, I just love what you do for the body of Christ and for the world.

Speaker A

Right now I've got Alan Deo, who has been.

Speaker A

I mean, you're an author.

Speaker A

You've legitimately studied these things on a very deep level.

Speaker A

But also as a, as a local church pastor and somebody who has devoted your life to equ and training and releasing people and mobilizing armies, like in a very literal way.

Speaker A

Every time I'm around him, I'm meeting more people that have been commissioned as a result.

Speaker A

And I.

Speaker A

You just, it's very rare.

Speaker A

So I have the highest degree of Honor for both of you.

Speaker A

But Allan, thank you so much for being here.

Speaker C

Well, thank you for talking about this.

Speaker C

I think you're the only person crazy enough to have this conversation.

Speaker C

I never wanted to be the alien guy myself.

Speaker C

Yes, I, I approach this as a skeptic.

Speaker C

I wanted to see what does the word actually say.

Speaker C

And most pastors are terrified to broach this issue because of the stigma attached to it, but I think that's quickly falling away.

Speaker C

And thank you so much for being bold enough to say we need to have this conversation and set the tone before the enemy comes in and throws in all kinds of deception.

Speaker A

Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker A

Well, both of you are extremely high iq and I think that sometimes.

Speaker A

Well, you know, listen, I'm going to say it, but sometimes people think, you know, weird people talk about weird things.

Speaker A

But the reality is like right now I'm wrapping a master's in theology and I have a 4.0.

Speaker A

And so it's like, you know, these are independent third party professors who are verifying Mike understands these texts and that's the reason why I bring that up.

Speaker A

And so we are not anti intellectual.

Speaker A

I think actually when I, when I read your books because you guys have authored so many incredible resources which we have linked, I see a true intellectualism, but I also see that prophetic edge where it's fully word, fully spirit.

Speaker A

And so I believe if you go back to reformation age 500 years ago, they would be talking about this.

Speaker A

I think so.

Speaker A

You know, and I think even historically, you know, not to go on a tangent, but it's only been the last hundred years where to be a Christian meant you couldn't be a scientist, you couldn't be an artist, you couldn't be.

Speaker A

And so I think you guys represent bringing back that, that Renaissance man that's like, no, you know what, it's not off limits because historically a man of God was in government, was in the sciences, was in philosophy.

Speaker A

And I think you represent a new breed that says it's not off limits because the word of God deals with it and I deal with the word of God, so I can talk about whatever the word of God talks about.

Speaker A

So we're gonna jump in on that.

Speaker A

And then we've got Josh Hamstra, who you're somebody I've put a demand on recently because you are a prophetic voice in the younger years of your ministry.

Speaker A

I know that God had used you internationally to really prophesy and you took a journey through entrepreneurship and you're still doing that to a degree.

Speaker A

But God as of recently has just been exploding your ministry as a prophetic voice.

Speaker A

So thank you for being here and I can't wait to see you bring in the insights.

Speaker A

I'm just gonna give you guys a sneak.

Speaker A

He gave a word for 2027 that caused a very high level person who is privy to classified, you know, information, like literally brought that guy to a point of silence where he's like, like, wait a second, where did you get that?

Speaker A

And you got it by the spirit.

Speaker A

And so hopefully we're going to take some time to release that word for 2027.

Speaker A

Are you, are you game?

Speaker B

I'm ready for it.

Speaker D

And just to say I feel like I'm a soldier sitting amongst generals right now and something, even when you were just talking, I was thinking this is not just a prophetic conversation, this is many, many years of you guys life going through the research.

Speaker D

It's.

Speaker D

And so when you were saying this is not just a spiritual conversation, this is also an intellectual conversation of the books that have been written and the things.

Speaker D

And I believe that we are going to hear things in this that have never been said before out loud.

Speaker A

Okay.

Speaker D

And so stay through all of these.

Speaker D

All right?

Speaker A

Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker A

Well, I'm just going to jump it off.

Speaker A

So I'm somebody who's talking about nephilim, you know, demons, all this stuff for decades and I was always the crazy guy.

Speaker A

And then now you talk about Joe Rogan, Wes Huff.

Speaker A

I mean this is the conversation of our day.

Speaker A

And so there's a lot of things unfolding now.

Speaker A

So for those of you, let me get you caught up because I even have a vision right now that there's churches watching this whole churches that are watching this as a resource.

Speaker A

So I want to get you caught up.

Speaker A

So just recently our, our government registered aliens.gov and so there at the time of this recording, there is an impending disclosure.

Speaker A

So just like we saw with the Epstein files, there is going to be a release of a cache of files.

Speaker A

We don't know how many, but they're actively preparing those now.

Speaker A

So we've saw, we've seen Pete Hegseth, you know, Department of War, I mean the highest ranking officials of this nation, President Donald Trump himself mentioned these files that are going to be released.

Speaker A

And when I saw my jaw dropped.

Speaker A

I'll be honest.

Speaker A

Aliens.gov I mean, at first I thought surely this isn't real, but it is.

Speaker A

And so for those of you who are thinking like what kind of Alex Jones conspiracy theory stuff that I tune into right now, I the, the reality Is you ha.

Speaker A

You cannot avoid this conversation.

Speaker A

And let me just raise the stakes, because we're gonna.

Speaker A

We're gonna go there.

Speaker A

I really believe that we, as we step into this mass deception, your children, your grandchildren are.

Speaker A

They could be a part of a portion of the body of Christ who fall away.

Speaker A

Because one of the things that is emerging is this ufo, alien, uap, extraterrestrial conversation emerging as a new world religion.

Speaker A

So I mark my words, and I want to get this on film just right off the jump, is I believe that as this disclosure happens, you're going to see Generation Zone actually start to adopt this as a religion.

Speaker A

The other thing is, I've done a lot of deep research myself.

Speaker A

There are people who have actually become Catholics as a result of going to the Vatican, searching the archives, and then saying, well, maybe this connects into the angelology of Catholicism.

Speaker A

So now you have another mass deception.

Speaker A

And so this, I think, in a very practical way, could become a form of religion for people as they're participating in their own personal investigations.

Speaker A

And then the other thing is, and I want to read this, and then we're just going to go for it.

Speaker A

For guys like us who've studied the text, there's not much that has surprised us, right?

Speaker A

I mean, for us, we're like, we have a biblical explanation for all of this.

Speaker A

Unfortunately, most people, even those of you watching right now, and I say this kindly, I say this as a father in the faith, are biblically illiterate.

Speaker A

So you don't know about the fall of Satan.

Speaker A

You think the first flood was Noah's flood.

Speaker A

You don't know about the Nephilim.

Speaker A

You don't understand.

Speaker A

Maybe you're just getting into this stuff.

Speaker A

So when this release comes out, even there's going to be people that have called themselves Christians for many years who are so deceived by this that they just simply depart from the faith altogether.

Speaker A

So check this out.

Speaker A

In 2022, the cultural research center of Arizona, this is a Christian university, released the devastating results of this massive study regarding pastors holding a biblical worldview.

Speaker A

So 41 of senior pastors, 28% of associate pastors, 12% of children and youth pastors, and 13% of teaching pastors, which are guys that are tasked with getting up and preaching the word.

Speaker A

So had a biblical worldview.

Speaker A

So at best, that 40% of lead pastors actually have a biblical worldview.

Speaker A

Which means, could we see, after this disclosure, lead pastors deconstruction from the faith?

Speaker A

It's crazy.

Speaker A

Then this is even crazier.

Speaker A

In 20, 25, they did more research.

Speaker A

And the number of professing Christians.

Speaker A

This is people watching right now.

Speaker A

Only 6% held a biblical worldview.

Speaker A

So that means by this research, about 90 something percent of you watching right now are at risk of being deceived by this disclosure.

Speaker A

The alien, extraterrestrial, ufo, UAP conversation.

Speaker A

And right now, because it hasn't happened yet, at the time of this podcast, you're like, I'm fine, but you're not.

Speaker A

So let's just jump in.

Speaker A

What do you guys make of this?

Speaker A

I know you've done a lot of deep research, but what, what can we anticipate?

Speaker A

Let's get up ahead of it.

Speaker C

Well, what's even worse, when you dig into those numbers, the more, the more likely you are to have a non biblical worldview is dependent upon your education.

Speaker C

The more theological education you've had, the less likely you are to have a biblical worldview.

Speaker C

So if you went to seminary, as example, as opposed to Bible college, you're less likely to have a biblical.

Speaker C

If you didn't go to Bible college at all and just went into ministry, you are more likely than the Bible college student to have a biblical worldview.

Speaker A

Wow.

Speaker C

There's something about our educational institutions that have been designed to deconstruct the faith.

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker C

That just sucks the life and the hope out of believers when they go into it.

Speaker C

Which is why 75 to 80% of our children who are raised in Christian homes within one year of going to college, they backslide from their faith as well.

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker A

Talk about it.

Speaker C

So we've got to pay attention to that.

Speaker C

And for the first time in history, in American history, there are more people who believe in aliens than believe in God in the United States of America.

Speaker C

So this is why it's no longer a fringe subject for us to be talking about.

Speaker C

Pastors have got to step up and say, no, here's what the Bible actually says.

Speaker C

That's how I got into this.

Speaker C

I saw so many Christians going down the rabbit hole.

Speaker C

And when you do that, there's something about conspiracy theories that warp the mind, something about it that draws people away, particularly from the Word.

Speaker C

Which is why I wanted to write about it.

Speaker C

Because I said, well, the Bible does talk about this.

Speaker C

Let's keep people connected to the Word of God and not go to these extremes.

Speaker C

Because it seems like either you're not talking about it at all or you're completely detached from Scripture as you talk about it.

Speaker C

So that's why we need to be having this conversation and laying out a framework in these conversations for pastors watching so they can begin to teach their congregations as well.

Speaker A

Oh, so good.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker B

You know, I'll say this, too, just to dovetail.

Speaker B

What Alan's saying is that when people don't love the truth, they end up down this avenue.

Speaker B

And education is not the answer.

Speaker B

It's powerful, but it's not the answer.

Speaker B

I like to say it this way.

Speaker B

Man or woman with a revelation from God Almighty is not at the mercy of a culture going mad.

Speaker B

And there's a lot of people that are working in information but not revelation.

Speaker B

Because of that, they're missing the whole thing.

Speaker B

And so I believe the Lord has a predicated word for many of us.

Speaker B

We're here with Josh, who prophesied about 2027.

Speaker B

We were in the room when people eyes got big because they had data that Josh was confirming prophetically.

Speaker B

I thought that was profound.

Speaker B

Back in 2020, I had an encounter where the Lord began to speak to me about this UFO narrative.

Speaker B

This is going to be a coming deception.

Speaker B

There's things that are coming down the pipeline that we need to be ready for.

Speaker B

Leading all the way back to a moment that my wife even had an alien encounter and she rebuked it and it fled.

Speaker B

And I can share that.

Speaker B

But the reason I bring this out is because I believe the Lord.

Speaker B

If we have ears to hear and eyes to see, we are being forewarned before the storm.

Speaker B

And what is coming is going to be radical disclosure, radical things that are going to shake the environment.

Speaker B

There's people, Mike, that I know you've compiled names and scenarios that we're going to see that I believe, begin to deceive the masses.

Speaker B

And they're going to be propped up as Christians.

Speaker B

They're going to be propped up as those that really have insight or even revelatory knowledge.

Speaker B

But it is all based on esoteric beliefs.

Speaker B

It's all based on mysticism.

Speaker B

It's all based on these lies.

Speaker B

But people are going to receive it like truth because they don't love the truth.

Speaker B

And this is what we're here to counter.

Speaker B

This is what we're here to adjust.

Speaker B

And it goes all the way back to the foundation of the Bible.

Speaker B

Like you're saying, Alan, so powerfully, we've got to come back to that understanding.

Speaker B

We got to come back to it.

Speaker B

But I'm telling you, the world is not ready for what's about to come on the scene, even right around the corner, even in the next months in front of us.

Speaker B

I know there's one individual that brought Some that was saying he had a visitation from somebody and he's predicting even Easter.

Speaker B

Now.

Speaker B

They're predicting this.

Speaker B

We're predicting the glory of God and breakthrough in our time, but they're predicting that on Easter, get this, there's going to be orbs that appear or potentially Jesus come back, or the lady of Light are going to come back around Easter and maybe even solve the Iran war, or it's the second coming of Christ.

Speaker B

Either way, something big is getting ready to happen and we're here to defy that in Jesus name.

Speaker A

Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker C

Look at the dearth in these stats.

Speaker C

So you have 7 to 9% have a biblical worldview of Christians.

Speaker C

37 To 45% of Americans believe they're living in the last days.

Speaker A

Yep.

Speaker C

So think about that for a moment.

Speaker C

So 35 to 42% of Americans believe Jesus could return in their lifetime when they're surveyed.

Speaker C

But only 9% have a biblical worldview.

Speaker C

So that means there's a large swath of people who know we're in this end time situation, but they have no grounding.

Speaker C

They have no way to discern what's right and no way to discern what's wrong.

Speaker C

So they're going to be easily deceived by what's coming down the pike, which is why we've got to get ahead of the narrative.

Speaker A

Come on now.

Speaker A

Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker A

Come on.

Speaker A

This is so important.

Speaker A

So here's what I want to do.

Speaker A

I want to try to break down the fundamental elements of this as if people watching right now have no idea what we're talking about, because there's some people that are just starting on their journey now.

Speaker A

For some of you, this is going to be reviewed.

Speaker A

But I.

Speaker A

Let's, let's start because this is something I was thinking about.

Speaker A

When I look at the book of Genesis, I see it completely different than, you know, their Sunday school presented it.

Speaker A

Right.

Speaker A

I know you guys understand because you.

Speaker C

Got a dank Bible right now.

Speaker B

Oh, yeah, that's.

Speaker A

Yeah, he's flexing now.

Speaker B

He's flexing.

Speaker C

Yeah.

Speaker C

That's a battle action.

Speaker A

This is.

Speaker A

And I've.

Speaker A

I've taught out of this Bible for 25 years, plus this particular Bible.

Speaker A

But, you know, again, we.

Speaker A

I want to introduce a term for everybody watching.

Speaker A

And the term is interdimensional.

Speaker A

And the reason why I want to introduce that is because these people.

Speaker A

And you already started going there, they're reporting.

Speaker A

I had an experience.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker A

Well, here's the thing.

Speaker A

I would say your experience was real, but your interpretation of what your experience Was.

Speaker A

Is deception.

Speaker A

That's really the reason why we have to talk about interdimensional.

Speaker A

For many of you watching.

Speaker A

So if only 6% of them have a biblical worldview, then they probably view the spiritual realm as separate than the physical realm.

Speaker A

So these are two different domains.

Speaker A

Well, when I die, I go to heaven, and, you know, a few people encountered angels, and it's these separate.

Speaker A

The reason why I want to introduce the word interdimensional and why that's necessary and why it's biblical is because if you would open your Bible and read through the book of Genesis, angels are interacting with humans to the degree that they're affecting physical matter, then there's sexual interaction.

Speaker A

And for every Christian watching right now is like, I don't know if I can believe that an angel would impregnate a woman.

Speaker A

You already believe that the Holy Spirit overshadowed Mary to conceive Christ.

Speaker B

Come on.

Speaker A

So you're already in on the presupposition that a spirit can conceive a fully biological male.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker A

Jesus Christ.

Speaker B

Yes.

Speaker A

So this is the way I've been saying it, because I'm trying to put language to this.

Speaker A

Angels, they have the ability, but they didn't have the authority.

Speaker B

That is so well said that.

Speaker B

Because that's what people fight you.

Speaker A

This is what.

Speaker A

Yeah, because they have the ability to be interdimensional.

Speaker A

The question is, do they have the authority?

Speaker A

So when God tells the angel, I need you to go to Mary and make an announcement, he has the ability to physically manifest himself, but now he's been given the authority from God because it's an assignment.

Speaker A

So what was happening is these angels, according to the Book of Jude, you guys know the text, they leave their first estate, they leave their domain that they're supposed to stay in, and they have the ability to do it, but they illegally did it without the authority.

Speaker A

And they are able to mate with women and they produce the Nephilim, which is a race of giants.

Speaker A

And so the reason why I want to start there is now the next question is, when these giants died, what happens to.

Speaker A

And this is another phrase that I coined recently.

Speaker A

They're decommissioned spirits.

Speaker A

And the reason why I say decommissioned is there is no redemption for them.

Speaker A

So they don't go to heaven, they don't go to Purgatory, they don't go to hell.

Speaker A

Where do they go?

Speaker A

And then, not only that, but we know that not all of the angels are in Tartarus that rebelled because it was specifically the ones that made it with women.

Speaker A

So you, you know, it's like, so you have angels that fell, that are not in chains in Tartarus, right.

Speaker A

You have angels that mated with women who had, had giants.

Speaker A

And what happened to that spirit when they're released?

Speaker A

And the reason why I'm saying this, I'm trying to boot all of you up.

Speaker A

I'm like unplugging you from the Matrix and booting you up into the real world right now as fast as I can.

Speaker B

Red pilled, ladies and gentlemen.

Speaker A

Right, you as fast as I can do it.

Speaker A

And the reason why I have to say this is because now you continue on in the text.

Speaker A

What's happening before Sodom and Gomorrah's destruction.

Speaker A

Angel, male angels show up.

Speaker A

They're so physically visible that the people of the city come around and say, we want to sodomize those angels.

Speaker A

And not only that, but we have lot who actually feeds, cooks for them, feeds them.

Speaker A

So they're eating meals.

Speaker A

So because a lot of you watching right now, you have such an outdated view of these things that it's like a spirit's just floating around.

Speaker A

It's like, no, they had the ability,.

Speaker C

This was normal to them.

Speaker C

The idea of sexual relations with angels was normal to them.

Speaker C

It's normalized.

Speaker C

The angels are here.

Speaker C

This is what we're going to do.

Speaker A

Yeah, we've already heard the stories, we know people who've done it.

Speaker A

There's already a race of giants.

Speaker A

So we want to sodomize them, we want to sleep with them, which is crazy, but.

Speaker A

And of course I'm trying to do this quickly, but you go New Testament, it's still normalized because it says, hey, you'll even entertain angels unaware man.

Speaker A

In other words, they'll present themselves in such a humanoid fashion that you won't even know you've had a full discussion.

Speaker A

That's right, you won't even know you've had, you've ate with them, just like lot ate with them.

Speaker A

As a matter of fact, the angels in Genesis, they're laying down, you know, they're just, they feed the prophet, they're doing all these physical activities and yet most of you watching right now because you don't have an understanding of this and you don't have a theology of being interdimensional, then when the conversation is introduced about aliens, UFO, extraterrestrials, you'll believe the lie.

Speaker C

And here's even the scarlet thread that begins in Genesis chapter three that goes all throughout scripture.

Speaker C

This is the very first prophecy that's ever given the law of first mention.

Speaker C

So every Prophecy after this is stamped with this DNA and it's prophesied, I will put enmity between thee and the woman, between thy seed and her seed.

Speaker C

And it shall bruise thy head and you will bruise his heel.

Speaker A

Yeah, Come on.

Speaker C

Now, we always know that's a reference to Jesus, right?

Speaker C

We know that this is a literal prophecy about a physical man who will be in the earth.

Speaker C

But there are two seeds that are mentioned here.

Speaker C

So if the first part is a literal physical being, the seed of the woman, that means the seed of the serpent is also a literal physical being.

Speaker C

And so we watch this thread and when you go through, even through the prophecies in Daniel into the Book of Revelation, we see the Antichrist.

Speaker C

This is a prophecy of the Antichrist, that he will be a literal physical person, a manifestation of the seed of Satan, which we saw played out in Genesis 6.

Speaker A

So good.

Speaker C

We see it mentioned in Daniel 2 and on and on.

Speaker C

So it's important to note that even at the very first prophecy in Scripture, we have this Nephilim type proto human demonic hybridization that's mentioned.

Speaker C

And it just gets better from there.

Speaker A

Oh, that's so good.

Speaker B

Well, we gotta mention the Book of Enoch.

Speaker B

You get into all that.

Speaker B

So the Book of Enoch, we gotta say right out of the gate, it's not canon, it's not scripture, but it is helpful.

Speaker B

Similar to the books of the Apocrypha.

Speaker B

You can look at it that way.

Speaker B

Historically, the Book of Enoch, interestingly enough, I think it's the first something.

Speaker B

30 Chapters were found in the Dead Sea Scrolls.

Speaker B

So that means Jesus, that means Jude, that means people would have known the Book of Enoch.

Speaker B

The Book of Enoch gives great insight.

Speaker B

Now, can we bank completely on it?

Speaker B

The answer is no.

Speaker B

But there is a lot of insight in it.

Speaker B

When you compare that to Genesis 6, you get a bigger narrative than what's going on basically at face value in Scripture, and it fills in the blanks.

Speaker B

So to go back to one of your points, Mike, you talked about the giants were in the land.

Speaker B

These things were there, they died.

Speaker B

I personally believe the giants left their nefarious wicked spirits behind.

Speaker B

I think that's demons.

Speaker A

I do too.

Speaker B

Angels are totally different.

Speaker B

You never see angels possessing a human being except Satan with Judas.

Speaker B

Now that's a whole other conversation just for your own study.

Speaker B

Just look at the parallels between Judas and the Antichrist sometime.

Speaker B

We'll just leave that for now.

Speaker B

But it's very interesting.

Speaker B

But when you look at that picture, you recognize demon spirits are flooding the earth doing things.

Speaker B

Now they're not limited by the same technologies we are.

Speaker B

They may have infinite access to technologies, interdimensional abilities.

Speaker B

And you get to ask the question, do demon spirits need physical bodies?

Speaker B

The answer is yes.

Speaker B

So spirits of light, spirits of darkness, both need access to the natural.

Speaker B

And this gets into some of the alien narrative we could be talking about.

Speaker B

Where do they get their access?

Speaker B

How do they do it?

Speaker B

Why do they abduct people?

Speaker B

Why do they go down these roads?

Speaker B

It could be that they're trying to extract DNA to create avatar type scenarios.

Speaker B

I know that's a little extreme sounding, but avatar scenarios where they house inside of these avatar bodies like the Grays, because they have to play by the rules to get into the natural.

Speaker B

There's a lot we can get into with it, but I believe this is going to get more and more extreme as we go forward.

Speaker B

So that's where we're kind of being a little bit of shock rock jocks, I guess, before we go into this.

Speaker B

Because we've got to say it plain, because the world's going to say it plain.

Speaker B

So we got to get ready for.

Speaker A

And thank you for being bold.

Speaker A

So the Book of Enoch is not, it's not canon, but it is context.

Speaker B

It is context.

Speaker A

And I just recently revisited it and I was reading through First Enoch and you talk and it really does explain the context.

Speaker A

Of course, you mentioned it's referenced in the Book of Jude.

Speaker A

Jude is dealing with the angelic and the demonic.

Speaker A

As a matter of fact, there's a war over the body of Moses.

Speaker A

So think about this.

Speaker A

There's a war over a physical body, the body of Moses.

Speaker A

And Michael the Archangel tells Satan, you know, the Lord rebuke you.

Speaker A

So that is an interdimensional war.

Speaker A

Yeah, there's a physical body of Moses, there's angels, they're fighting.

Speaker A

The Book of Enoch is being referenced in the Book of Jude.

Speaker A

So it's not canon, but it is context.

Speaker B

It's good.

Speaker A

And I also believe that, yeah, I mean, think about this.

Speaker A

Jesus goes to cast out a legion of demons, which is many, and they, they're demanding, please put us in a physical body.

Speaker A

And of course they drown themselves so that they can go back into circulation to find a human body.

Speaker A

And so when you talk about the grace, for those of you who are like, what did he just say?

Speaker A

I know you hit the rewind button and you're like, did he just say grace?

Speaker A

Let's talk about it though.

Speaker A

I want to address that because as you said, you said the word seed and women mating with angels Creating a race of giants.

Speaker A

You can't deny that.

Speaker A

I mean, if you believe in the story of David and Goliath, you're already in.

Speaker A

Yeah, it's just the thing is there are other Philistine giants.

Speaker A

There are other races of giants.

Speaker A

So you're already in on this.

Speaker A

It's just what we're doing is peeling back the layers past the coloring book.

Speaker A

So now it's a lot less weird that the serpent was a real serpent.

Speaker A

It all starts making sense.

Speaker B

Good, Mike.

Speaker A

And I think when we see the pictures, I want to get this on film too, because the date of this recording is like.

Speaker A

But when we start seeing pictures, videos, when we start hearing accounts, if you have, if you are biblically literate, if you've watched all of these episodes we're doing together right now, it's all going to make sense to you and you won't be deceived.

Speaker A

But when you talk about the grace and those physical bodies, why wouldn't they try to create a meat suit that they could inhabit?

Speaker A

Because was that not the exact same thing that we see in Genesis 6?

Speaker B

How about John 3, John chapter 3?

Speaker B

Jesus, you're going to be born of water and of spirit to Nicodemus.

Speaker B

In other words, you got to have a physical body to operate in the natural.

Speaker B

Yeah, you got to have it.

Speaker A

And you see that pattern?

Speaker A

Demons won in pigs.

Speaker A

They won in people.

Speaker A

Come on, Mike.

Speaker A

So you see a pattern.

Speaker A

So to me, someone says, well, I interacted.

Speaker A

You're going to be the gray.

Speaker A

Sorry.

Speaker A

But I, you know.

Speaker B

Congratulations.

Speaker A

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker A

And.

Speaker A

And it was a fully physical.

Speaker A

It's like.

Speaker A

Well, yeah.

Speaker A

What?

Speaker A

Because right now, what are we doing?

Speaker A

Genetic editing.

Speaker A

We're doing it.

Speaker A

Cloning.

Speaker A

We're doing it.

Speaker A

We're already experimenting.

Speaker A

And you, you guys know, in the dark recesses of labs overseas.

Speaker A

I'm not putting this on America if my agents watch.

Speaker A

But in the dark recesses of.

Speaker A

Of labs overseas, there, there are crazy things, you know, chimeras and weird stuff that we are not privy to.

Speaker A

And so why not a demonic influence to get access to a body to interact with this dimension?

Speaker C

Well, that was part of the meeting that we had this clandestine meeting where we met with formal officials we'll be talking about later, which is why we're having this conversation.

Speaker C

We were actually.

Speaker C

Three of us were called.

Speaker C

Four of us were called into a meeting where people are investigating the United States government and crimes they have committed in the process of obtaining technology and biology from non human origin.

Speaker C

And they're trying to inform pastors so that they can inform their congregations before the deception comes.

Speaker C

So believers need to understand this.

Speaker C

And I'm from the old school.

Speaker C

I'm the boring guy who thinks demons are fallen angels.

Speaker C

But it doesn't matter.

Speaker B

What matters is that.

Speaker A

No, let's talk about it.

Speaker B

It's good, brother.

Speaker C

Because what matters is, do you know you have authority over them in the name of Jesus?

Speaker C

Yeah.

Speaker C

And as our friend Troy Brewer says, the question is, what camp are they from?

Speaker C

You know, it's not, you know, exactly what is this thing?

Speaker C

Who do they represent?

Speaker C

That's what really matters.

Speaker C

And we've had some meetings with some people with high levels of classification who say this information is forthcoming very, very quickly.

Speaker C

And the moment we had the meeting nationally, we saw the same day presidents coming out and talking about this, former presidents and the current president.

Speaker C

So there's a lot to dive in here.

Speaker C

And if you thought this was wild so far, oh, man, it's going to get wilder.

Speaker C

So in that meeting they were talking about.

Speaker C

About how they are incubating fetuses and trying to hybridize.

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker C

Is that the right word?

Speaker A

We'll take it.

Speaker B

We took it.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker A

We just added it to website.

Speaker B

We know your heart.

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker C

And it's wild what they're doing.

Speaker C

And they're trying to find a way to disclose all this.

Speaker C

And when this happens, along with the rise of super intelligence, super artificial intelligence, how are we going to know what's real and what's not?

Speaker C

Joe Rogan just did a podcast and said if Jesus were to come back and somebody was there on the temple mountain and shot it with a cell phone, who would believe him?

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker D

Wow.

Speaker B

What a statement.

Speaker C

Imagine that for a moment Jesus returns.

Speaker C

You've got on cell phone, it goes global.

Speaker C

Who's going to believe that?

Speaker C

It's actually at the same time we've got all this AI.

Speaker C

You can't believe anything you see right now.

Speaker C

We do know the Bible says no one will have to tell you.

Speaker B

Well, Allen's an expert on Project Blue Beam.

Speaker B

One of the big things we're going to do, and I don't know when we want to get into that, but there's so much want to unveil to everybody and I think we're getting a running start.

Speaker B

And to your point, I feel that we're so close to what I call ultimate disclosure.

Speaker B

Not just.

Speaker B

I think it's going to be kind of a drip, drip, like he brings it out a little bit.

Speaker B

The White House brings more out.

Speaker B

But I believe over the next year and even to the prophecy you shared Josh, over the next year, I believe it's going to be massive.

Speaker B

And that's including proof, video proof.

Speaker B

Maybe they'll bring non human biologics into the light.

Speaker B

Maybe they will show audio proof or they'll let these things talk.

Speaker B

Who knows what they're going to do?

Speaker B

But my spirit tells me, based on the information empirically we're watching the information that's being disclosed to us and then even supernaturally the trend that's happening, I believe it's going to be bigger than we think.

Speaker B

I don't know if it'll start bigger, but I believe it's going to arrive there to the point people say, oh my goodness, the Anunnaki put us here.

Speaker B

Oh my goodness, this is where it's going.

Speaker B

We were so before the beginning.

Speaker B

Oh God and the Godhead are all aliens in the book of Genesis.

Speaker B

We made you in our image.

Speaker B

And I believe they're going to find that theme.

Speaker B

And Alan, I like what you say.

Speaker B

We were doing a program previously too where you had said, you know, the Bible and Jesus, you guys are close.

Speaker C

Yeah, that's what.

Speaker B

But here's the real picture.

Speaker B

That's what you were saying.

Speaker C

Yeah, they're going to say what you saw in the scripture, that's close.

Speaker C

And the way you started this conversation about the disclosure that's coming and what's going to happen, and I think I have a potential date from my sources.

Speaker C

We can talk about this maybe in one of the future broadcasts of a date that's been given to me this year when they expect disclosure to take place, which is really interesting.

Speaker C

But if the Church doesn't get ahead of this and begin to talk about this, then we're going to miss the boat and see a great falling away.

Speaker A

Yeah, exactly.

Speaker A

And this is so vital.

Speaker A

I want to say this.

Speaker A

And we're going to kind of come to a close on this one because we're going to do a multi part because I want to go deep.

Speaker A

This was the fundamental elements and I, and I think that we did a good job of establishing that.

Speaker A

But let me just bluntly say this.

Speaker A

I believe that there are minimum of four demonic propaganda arms that are going to be deployed when that disclosure happens.

Speaker A

And I believe that there very well may be a situation where because of those four distinct arms of propaganda, that 100% of the interpretation of the data that you hear will be deception.

Speaker A

That's a big statement.

Speaker A

That's why I brought them together.

Speaker A

I said, you have to come to New York City.

Speaker A

We have to sit at the table before the disclosure, because I'm convinced that what we're saying, the fact that we have our Bibles open to the book of Genesis and can defend it, the fact that we understand the book of Enoch and no context, the fact that we can synthesize all these ideas and say there is a logical, rational, biblical explanation for all of it, is probably the narrative you're not going to hear, but it's the only one that's true.

Speaker A

So, as a matter of fact, we were told in that off site, clandestine meeting that one of the demonic propaganda arms is going to seemingly corroborate with the Islamic.

Speaker A

Yeah, Take on the crucifixion of Christ, that it was actually, actually Judas.

Speaker A

That's right, because remote viewing actually revealed that, no, it was Judas that was crucified, not Christ.

Speaker A

So could we be months away from the global Islamic community celebrating.

Speaker A

Look, it vindicates us, right?

Speaker A

Then, as you mentioned, the ancient text people that the Anunnaki, the Egypt.

Speaker A

Oh, I get it.

Speaker A

We're from the stars.

Speaker A

And they showed us into this particular planet.

Speaker A

And the extraterrestrial, which my good friend Dr. Hugh Ross, who I've had on this channel multiple times, who is certifiably a genius, he's often the only Christian at the conferences that he does all around the world because he's a real astrophysicist and actually converted to Christianity as a result of the Genesis account of creation.

Speaker A

And I just recently had him at V1, and he said, it is scientifically impossible for there to be extraterrestrials.

Speaker A

And the whole theory of, well, look how big the cosmos are.

Speaker A

There must because of all this possibility.

Speaker A

But he's like, okay, as somebody whose mind far exceeds any of our ability, he's like, let's actually do that.

Speaker A

Here's what it would be mathematically and proves that you would be an idiot.

Speaker A

And I'm saying this to each and every one of you right now.

Speaker A

To actually think that just because of the size of the cosmos and the number of planets and the number of stars, that it's plausible for there to be extraterrestrials, meaning beings that exist in other worlds.

Speaker A

When you look into the skies, Dr. Hugh Ross is like, no, I've.

Speaker A

I've devoted my entire career to proving that false.

Speaker A

But the thing is, we.

Speaker A

We were raised on Spielberg propaganda.

Speaker A

And guess who has a movie coming out this year?

Speaker A

This.

Speaker A

This summer?

Speaker B

Mr. Spielberg.

Speaker A

Mr. Spielberg.

Speaker A

And so we've been so pumped full of propaganda our whole lives, and the truth is, most of you failed high school math.

Speaker A

I mean, let's be honest.

Speaker A

You got people.

Speaker A

Because this is a day and age we live in.

Speaker A

People who never got past pre algebra telling a renowned astrophysicist there has to be extraterrestrials because look how big the sky is.

Speaker A

And it's like, bro, you didn't even get.

Speaker A

You didn't even get to algebra two in high school.

Speaker A

But you're the expert now, right?

Speaker A

Because you so.

Speaker A

And this.

Speaker A

This is why this podcast is so important.

Speaker A

And these episodes.

Speaker A

Episodes that you guys signed up to do.

Speaker A

And so if you're watching this, like, I want to go deeper, that's exactly what we're about to do.

Speaker A

So just click into the next one and let's do this thing.