Offense Opens the Door to Demonic Attack — What You Can Do | Feat. Jonathan Cahn
Jonathan Cahn joins Pastor Mike Signorelli to tell the full story behind the viral airplane incident that ended with a passenger being restrained and duct-taped—and to reveal what he believes was happening spiritually behind the scenes.
Just days after the release of his new book, The Altar of Pergamon, Jonathan found himself sitting beside a man who began the flight friendly and conversational. But after Jonathan began talking about God, Jesus, and the supernatural reality behind his ministry, he says the encounter suddenly changed. What followed was an escalating confrontation involving threats, physical violence, a struggle over Jonathan’s laptop, an emergency landing, and a story that would quickly spread across national media.
Jonathan shares details that weren’t captured in the viral headlines and explains why he believes the incident was connected to the spiritual themes he had just exposed in The Altar of Pergamon.
But this conversation goes deeper than what happened on one airplane.
Pastor Mike and Jonathan discuss what the Bible actually teaches about spiritual warfare, why following God does not guarantee a life without opposition, and why attacks should not automatically be interpreted as evidence that God has abandoned you. From the Apostle Paul being beaten, imprisoned, and shipwrecked to Christ Himself facing persecution, Scripture presents spiritual victory very differently from a life without resistance.
They also examine the danger of offense. Jonathan describes how the man on the flight spoke about once following Jesus before becoming offended and rejecting his faith—raising a larger question about what can happen when bitterness, rejection, and unresolved offense are allowed to take root.
How should Christians respond when opposition becomes personal? How do you confront darkness without becoming consumed by anger toward the person involved? And what does it mean to remain unoffendable while refusing to compromise the truth?
This episode is a powerful conversation about spiritual warfare, perseverance, forgiveness, evangelism, and standing firm when opposition comes.
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All right, everyone, I am so excited because just days ago I went live and covered the situation that you saw viral all around the world.
Speaker AAnd I actually have Jonathan Cahn here with me and we're gonna unpack the spiritual implications, the biblical insights, and he's gonna reveal to you something major that's happening in the earth.
Speaker AAnd the devil is extremely upset.
Speaker AI take it as a huge compliment.
Speaker AAnd I say this.
Speaker AWhen you're not in a head on collision with the devil, it's because you're both running the same direction.
Speaker AAnd so we know that Jon Khan is somebody that the devil absolutely hates.
Speaker ABut to be hated by the devil is to be loved by God.
Speaker ASo, Jonathan Cahn, welcome back to the channel.
Speaker BGreat to be back.
Speaker BMike.
Speaker AWe're so glad that you're, you're f, you're good though.
Speaker AThat kind of situation is extremely emotionally and physically taxing.
Speaker ABut for those people who somehow didn't see what happened, can you just kind of give him your own recount of the event as it unfolded?
Speaker BYeah, I'll give a real nutshell version because there's so much.
Speaker BBut the thing is that, yeah, first of all, I think most importantly, I mean, this is.
Speaker BThere's a spiritual behind it all was spiritual.
Speaker BI mean, and so much so that I can say that before this happened, we, I knew, we knew, my wife knew, we prayed, the congregation was praying because I spoke about it just before that I was going to be attacked.
Speaker BAnd it happens virtually with every book but this one, because it was the Altar of Pergamon, as I was saying, it's unmasking, it's exposing the spiritual realm and the dark realm behind everything that's happening right in the world.
Speaker BSo that's kind of what happened on the plane.
Speaker BSo I believed I was going to be.
Speaker BSo it wasn't, in one sense, it wasn't surprising.
Speaker BIn other sense, it was shocking, but not surprising.
Speaker BAfter I said, okay, all right, I understand what's happening.
Speaker BSo the thing is that, so I went on the plane.
Speaker BI was actually.
Speaker BThe book, the Altar Pergamum released two days before and it was the release day at least week.
Speaker BAnd you usually when these attacks happen, it's either the day of the release, you know, or the week of the release, you know, so, so I, I'm, you know, I'm talking, doing television and speaking about the book, and I'm coming home now, you know, and there were things that already happened before this, but I thought, okay, is that it?
Speaker BBut it wasn't.
Speaker BSo I, I get on the Plane.
Speaker BThere's a man to my Left, he's a 67 year old realtor and vice president and he's, and he's engaging me, know, in talking and talking.
Speaker BAnd now I was, I wanted to get, I had a lot of work to do but the guy's talking.
Speaker BI said, okay Lord, maybe that's what you want me to do on the flight, I'm okay.
Speaker BSo I'm talking, laughing, he's friendly and you know, and talking about his wife.
Speaker BMy wife, I, oh, I write books, my wife's going to love to read your books and etc.
Speaker BEtc.
Speaker BGoing on, it's two hours of friendly, all this.
Speaker BThe flight crew thought we, we, we were all friends.
Speaker BAnd so, and then I said, Lord, while we're doing this, I'm praying saying, Lord, give me an opening to share your love, your gospel, your salvation.
Speaker BSo he does.
Speaker BSo I'm talking to him and he says, I used to be in, yeah, he was into Jesus, he was all for Jesus, but then something happened in his life and he felt judged.
Speaker BSo he rejected Jesus.
Speaker AYes, and this is major confirmation that we've got to become unoffendable because as you know, the doors open to the demonic when we don't forgive, when we hold grudges and we're bitter.
Speaker AAnd I'm so excited because the Unoffendable Heart book is coming out October 20th as a matter of fact.
Speaker AYou can go to the description or the pin comment and you can tap the link and you can get it at Barnes and Noble, Target Walmart, you can get it on Amazon, but pre order it now and become a part of the unoffendable army.
Speaker AAnd I'm so excited for you to get this book.
Speaker ASo tell me, tell me more.
Speaker BSo I'm telling him, listen, God still loves you.
Speaker BJesus didn't come to condemn you, came to save you.
Speaker BThis is how it is, not religion.
Speaker BIt's being born again.
Speaker BI'm sharing.
Speaker BAnd so then he said, well, how do you know God is real?
Speaker BI said, well, you know, I was an atheist, you know, I came because I saw the prophecies of the Bible.
Speaker BI could not explain them away.
Speaker BThen I got hit by a train.
Speaker BAnd that was a good reason I came to the Lord.
Speaker BAnd then he says, well he said, you know, and we're talking about God being real, actually real in the world.
Speaker BI said, I said.
Speaker BSo I gave him two incidents which is what led to the.
Speaker BEverything that happened.
Speaker BOne had to do with the book.
Speaker BThe first book I wrote, the Harbinger, How God supernaturally sent it forth to the world through a supernatural encounter in an airport.
Speaker AYeah, two.
Speaker BI shared about how God brought my wife to me supernaturally from Brazil through words that were given to her when she was young and this amazing.
Speaker BAnyway, that's.
Speaker BSo I'm talking about the real.
Speaker BThe reality of God in the world.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BThat moment a change comes.
Speaker BHis.
Speaker BHis face changes, his.
Speaker BHis voice changes, his personality changes.
Speaker BAnd he said, he's whispers something.
Speaker BAnd I said, what?
Speaker BHe's.
Speaker BAnd he.
Speaker BHe whispers and he whispers a profanity.
Speaker BIt's like, you know, well, you're gonna.
Speaker ABull.
Speaker BI said, what?
Speaker BHe said, we think it's.
Speaker BI made it up.
Speaker BWhat do you say?
Speaker BHow do you explain it?
Speaker BBull.
Speaker BHe goes, go blank yourself.
Speaker AWow.
Speaker BThis is.
Speaker BAfter two hours of friendly.
Speaker BI said, okay, here.
Speaker BThen he starts cursing God.
Speaker BHe starts cursing Jesus.
Speaker BHe starts cursing me.
Speaker BHe's cursing God on the Pl.
Speaker BIt's like speaking blasphemy.
Speaker AWow.
Speaker BVulgarities, lewdness, you know, profanities.
Speaker BHe's causing the serm.
Speaker BThis, this.
Speaker BThe service lasted about a half an hour, you know, and all sorts of things are happening.
Speaker BAnd he's talking about people and you know, by the way, on the news, you know, the news story.
Speaker BWhen I saw the news story, you know, it shows you how you don't get the news.
Speaker BYou know, the news.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker BIt was, well, basically like he.
Speaker BHe was duct taped because he made these racist remarks.
Speaker BAnd.
Speaker BAnd he's.
Speaker BListen, he made every kind of remark, but that wasn't what was happening.
Speaker BHe wasn't duct taped because he was duct taped because of me.
Speaker BHe was duct taped because he was trying to attack me.
Speaker BAnd then, you know, so that I'm going, I'm moving ahead a little bit.
Speaker BSo, so the thing is that.
Speaker BAnd they.
Speaker BSome of them said, oh, oh.
Speaker BHe spoke about Jesus like he was a Christian who.
Speaker BWho.
Speaker BWho hated people opposite.
Speaker BHe was cursing Jesus, you know.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BSo.
Speaker BSo he's.
Speaker BSo that's happening.
Speaker BHe, you know, he goes to the people in front.
Speaker BHe stands up.
Speaker BDo you believe in Jesus?
Speaker BDo you believe in Jesus?
Speaker BYou know, you talks about hell.
Speaker BHe's talking about hell, you know, and so.
Speaker BAnd there, you know, the flight people come over to try to, you know, to stop it, but it doesn't stop.
Speaker BI'm trying to calm him down.
Speaker BSo you're going to get into trouble.
Speaker BYou got.
Speaker BGot to calm yourself.
Speaker BAnd then in a second it lifts and he's nice.
Speaker AWhy.
Speaker BAnd he's apologizing.
Speaker BThen he comes back and he does it again.
Speaker BAnd then he lifts.
Speaker BIt happened twice.
Speaker BLifts, comes back.
Speaker BAnd so he is.
Speaker BHe's.
Speaker BHe's going.
Speaker BAnd then at one point, I'm.
Speaker BI'm looking ahead.
Speaker BI took on my computer and he's puts his hands around my neck and it.
Speaker BChoke hold.
Speaker BAnd it's.
Speaker BAnd it's.
Speaker BNow.
Speaker BNow he's doing it like a joke.
Speaker BBecause it's not really.
Speaker BYou know, it's not like it's.
Speaker BIt's.
Speaker BYeah, but like a joke, you know, but it's like the enemy is not joking, you know?
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BYou know, and the thing is that.
Speaker BThat.
Speaker BOkay, he does that and then he sees my.
Speaker BOkay, Micah, this is another.
Speaker BThis is.
Speaker BThis.
Speaker BWe can understand this as believers.
Speaker BAt the beginning of the week, I look at my computer and it's got this.
Speaker BThis black bar in the center.
Speaker BI never had that before.
Speaker BAnd.
Speaker BAnd I.
Speaker BIt was hard to do anything as I traveled with the way it was.
Speaker BI said, okay, the enemy is doing that.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker BAnd then.
Speaker BBut he sees it.
Speaker BAnd the guy.
Speaker BHe taps my.
Speaker BMy screen like three times before I could stop.
Speaker BAnd the dark.
Speaker BThe dark spreads to over half of my screen.
Speaker ANo way.
Speaker BAnd it's not like I think the guy knew it.
Speaker BI think the enemy knew it.
Speaker BBut yeah, you know, and the computer is where I was.
Speaker BWhere I write the books.
Speaker BIt's right alter programming.
Speaker BWhere I write everything is where I have future things on there.
Speaker BAnd so.
Speaker BAnd so the enemy hates it.
Speaker BYou know, as you said before, it's good to be hated by the enemy.
Speaker BSo.
Speaker BSo the thing is that.
Speaker BSo he does that then on my computer.
Speaker BI'm Kinesi.
Speaker BHe's.
Speaker BThere's a.
Speaker BThe.
Speaker BThe.
Speaker BThe image of the book comes on this part, and you could still see.
Speaker BAnd I would hold it up if we were.
Speaker BAnyway, but I'm holding up for the story.
Speaker BThis is what it looks like.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BSo it says the altar pergamum, the mystery of the dark angel.
Speaker BThis is the dark angel, which is the enemy, you know?
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BAnd so he sees that and he.
Speaker AHe.
Speaker AHe.
Speaker BIt triggers him.
Speaker BHe starts screaming, shouting, what did you do?
Speaker BWhat did you do?
Speaker BLike I did something wrong writing the book.
Speaker BWhat did you do?
Speaker BI mean, it's not him.
Speaker BIt's.
Speaker BIt's the enemy.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BSo he.
Speaker AThen.
Speaker BThen as I'm looking ahead, I'm trying to.
Speaker BAnd he says, I'm gonna punch your blanken Jewish face in no way.
Speaker BYes.
Speaker BYes.
Speaker AI did not know that.
Speaker BWell, well, we did in the talking.
Speaker BHe could have known that.
Speaker BBut.
Speaker BBut you know, the enemy hates all people.
Speaker BBut he, you know, he hates.
Speaker AYes, of course.
Speaker BSo at that point, I'm like, I'm in the aisle.
Speaker BI'm not the aisle seat.
Speaker BI'm going, guys, to the flight people.
Speaker BYou got to get over here.
Speaker BYou know?
Speaker BBut they didn't know what to do.
Speaker BThey didn't know what to do.
Speaker BAnd I mean, they tried to stop twice, but they didn't know what to do.
Speaker BNow, Now.
Speaker BBut.
Speaker BBut for the moment, like, the part he's getting, it's escalating toward violence.
Speaker BAnd so now, at one point, he starts hitting me.
Speaker BNow he's hitting me now.
Speaker BIt's not like we're in a fight.
Speaker BIt's like he's trying to get me to fight him because he's going like this with his.
Speaker BOn the other side.
Speaker BHe's got.
Speaker BHe's like getting like that, like that.
Speaker AAnd.
Speaker BAnd I'm going, I'm going, we need some help here.
Speaker BWe can use some help at 4B.
Speaker BI'm going, we use some help here.
Speaker BThey didn't know what to do, so they stops for a jump.
Speaker BAnd then I'm like, okay.
Speaker BAnd something tells me he's going to try to destroy your computer now, your laptop.
Speaker BAnd it just comes like that.
Speaker BYeah, my laptop was under attack the whole week.
Speaker BBut it wasn't natural, because what happened at the beginning of the week had nothing to do with what's happening on the plane.
Speaker BNatural.
Speaker BSo I take my.
Speaker BMy laptop, this laugh, the laptop, I put it down, put it, put it on my side, take my cell phone and say, I'm getting out of here.
Speaker BSo I start going.
Speaker BAs I start going, he lunges for me.
Speaker BHe lunges for me and for that computer.
Speaker BAnd he grabs hold of the computer, and it's all violent.
Speaker BNow he's trying everything to wrest that out of my hand.
Speaker BI'm knowing that with all my.
Speaker BI'm holding onto it because I know if he gets it, he's going to destroy it.
Speaker BAnd I don't think I backed up.
Speaker BSo we're wrestling on the plane, you know, crazy.
Speaker BAnd.
Speaker BAnd, you know, you know, I. Mike, just.
Speaker BJust the weekend, you know, that led into this week.
Speaker BYou know, we have services on the weekend, right?
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BWhat I was led to share was we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, you know, in high places.
Speaker BNow I'm wrestling with flesh and blood and principalities, and I'm in a height.
Speaker BI'm 3,000, 30,000ft off.
Speaker BI'm in a high place, wrestling.
Speaker ALiterally.
Speaker BLiterally.
Speaker BLiterally.
Speaker BAnd I Looked at the words of my message, message on Sunday.
Speaker BAnd it's.
Speaker BAnd I'm actually telling them.
Speaker BI'm talking about when the enemy attacked at each book.
Speaker BAnd I'm saying, when the Lord is going to do something in your life and you're going to be used for God, you're used for God.
Speaker BYou can use powerfully.
Speaker BI said, the enemy is going to go crazy.
Speaker BThat's what he said at the beginning.
Speaker BAnd so he did.
Speaker BAnd so we're wrestling.
Speaker BNobody.
Speaker BThe.
Speaker BThe.
Speaker BThe plane is shocked as these two people are wrestling, in shock.
Speaker AThe.
Speaker BThe pilot is radioing down to make an emergency landing.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BYou know, and, and you know, when you read the.
Speaker BWhen you're.
Speaker BAgain, you read the articles, it was like this, this hate guy was, you know, just, you know, doing this.
Speaker BAnd they, and they dictate him because of his comments.
Speaker BNo, this is why they ductated him.
Speaker BDucted.
Speaker BBecause he was trying to destroy my computer.
Speaker BThe computer.
Speaker BAnd so.
Speaker BLiterally, you know, and so, and so.
Speaker BBut then these guys, thank God.
Speaker BGod had, you know, because, you know, had two guys sitting two rows of.
Speaker BIn front of us.
Speaker BOne was a retired policeman and his associate.
Speaker BAnd I mean, even.
Speaker BHe even had on his, on his, on his shirt, it said.
Speaker BIt said don't, don't run.
Speaker BLike, don't run away.
Speaker BDon't run.
Speaker BReload.
Speaker BI mean, he's not that person.
Speaker AYeah, Perfect guy.
Speaker BPerfect guy to be there.
Speaker BSo.
Speaker BSo he goes, they go to the guy and the guy start.
Speaker BIs violent with them, you know, and they're trying.
Speaker BAnd he's trying to.
Speaker BHe's trying to.
Speaker BTrying to bite them.
Speaker BThis is a vice president, right?
Speaker BTrying to bite them.
Speaker BThis is, this is, this was.
Speaker BAgain, why I said this is demonic.
Speaker BI'm not talking about where he was at.
Speaker BI don't know the guy.
Speaker BBut the whole thing was demonic.
Speaker BAnd so, so they find.
Speaker BSo they duct tape him.
Speaker BThat's why he became the duct tape man, you know, and the thing is that.
Speaker BAnd so it's makeup.
Speaker BIt makes this emergency landing and the FBI come on and all that.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BAnd I was, I wasn't gonna.
Speaker BWell, actually, I wasn't gonna say much about this, you know, and.
Speaker BAnd some say you should because you have the real story of it.
Speaker BAnd.
Speaker BAnd then that Friday I got home real late at night, you know, that morning, getting ready for service.
Speaker BAnd, and so I get a call from our office, the ministry.
Speaker BThey say the thing would happen with you.
Speaker BIt's on the news.
Speaker BI said, why?
Speaker BBecause we're not even thinking it's on the news, right?
Speaker BThen they call back, said, you're on that tape.
Speaker BTMZ has it.
Speaker BAnd you.
Speaker BThey.
Speaker BYou're there.
Speaker BLook, I'm looking the other way.
Speaker BYou know, that was after.
Speaker BIf you see that tape.
Speaker BThat was right after I got out to the.
Speaker AI saw it.
Speaker BThey got there and then they're ducking.
Speaker BSo.
Speaker BSo they said, well, I'm looking the other way.
Speaker BThey're not going to recognize me.
Speaker BMy wife says, you're recognizable.
Speaker BThey're going to recognize.
Speaker BThey're not.
Speaker BDon't fool yourself.
Speaker BSo.
Speaker BSo we started getting caught.
Speaker BLike, what is, John?
Speaker BThey can do it in this news story.
Speaker BLittle do they know that I caused the whole thing.
Speaker BSo.
Speaker BSo, you know, the Lord really said, like, so you got to put it out.
Speaker BSo that's when we put it on.
Speaker BOn the YouTube, our YouTube channel.
Speaker BWe put it out, you know, and then it went viral.
Speaker BAnd then.
Speaker BAnd then we started.
Speaker BSee, the thing.
Speaker BThe other thing is that, you know, I mean, you know this.
Speaker BAnd we say it, but it's true, you know, what.
Speaker BWhat.
Speaker BWhat the enemy uses for evil, God uses for good.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BAnd we.
Speaker BAnd on.
Speaker BWhile I'm on the plane, I'm thanking God.
Speaker BI am.
Speaker BI am giving thanks to God.
Speaker BI'm.
Speaker BBecause one is how real this is.
Speaker BNumber two, it shows how you're on the right side, right?
Speaker BYou're going to prevail because you're on the right side.
Speaker BAnd come on something really big that God is doing or the enemy wouldn't waste his time.
Speaker BSo.
Speaker BAnd I was just, like, saying these things that, you know, when the enemy attacks.
Speaker BAnd I said this on, you know, you don't get discouraged if you're in God's will.
Speaker BThat's.
Speaker BIf you're.
Speaker BYou're getting attacked, he's going crazy.
Speaker BDon't get discouraged, get encouraged.
Speaker BIt's a sign that God has great.
Speaker BOn the other side of that thing.
Speaker BYou just keep going.
Speaker BThe devil cannot stop you.
Speaker BIf you don't stop, you keep going.
Speaker BAnd if you keep going, you're guaranteed to win and you're going to have that victory, that it's going to be something great.
Speaker BWhatever.
Speaker BHowever great the attack is, this is going to be greater.
Speaker BThat's why he's doing it.
Speaker BSo that was really the message.
Speaker BAnd so since then, you know, what's happening is I'm getting called from Inside Edition, People magazine, you know, you know, New York Post, you know, Fox News.
Speaker BAnd I'm able to share about these things.
Speaker BYou know, the book is about these Things, I mean, it's about.
Speaker BIn a big scale how it's affected the whole world, but.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker BAnd I'm able to do it to these places we never would be able to do before.
Speaker BAnd yet.
Speaker BAnd you know, and it's going forth in a way we could never imagine.
Speaker BIf the enemy wanted to stop people from getting the altar of Pergamon, he.
Speaker BHe miscalculated that because it just.
Speaker BIt just this.
Speaker BWhat happened, you know, it's gone viral, you know, so.
Speaker BSo I praise God, you know, I. I pray for the guy.
Speaker BI hope he.
Speaker BI want him to get saved.
Speaker AOf course, yes.
Speaker BAnd maybe this is the thing that'll do it.
Speaker BSo I pray for the guy, you know, but I know God is so real.
Speaker BAnd so, I mean.
Speaker BI mean, again, listen, Mike, we've been dealing with this since the harbinger, since I wrote this book.
Speaker ATrue.
Speaker BThe first time it made world news and.
Speaker BAnd everybody was dealing with it, you know, but it shows how it.
Speaker BWhat happened.
Speaker BAnd here I'm gonna.
Speaker BI'm gonna tell you a wild thing.
Speaker BI don't know if we're going to get to the book.
Speaker AThis is so good.
Speaker AThis is so good, though.
Speaker AWe need.
Speaker BIt is that I only realized this after.
Speaker BI mean, just recently.
Speaker BJust recently I was actually.
Speaker BAnd that is that it's not just that what happened there was about the book.
Speaker BI mean, I could say that because I knew it beforehand.
Speaker BIt's not just that.
Speaker BThat, you know, it's the same thing as in the book with the spiritual affecting the real or the physical.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker BIt turns out, you know, because I wrote the book, I'm revealing these real.
Speaker BIt's all real.
Speaker BBut in a story like a God version of the Da Vinci Code, it's real.
Speaker BYou know, because this is what happened.
Speaker BWhat happened to me on the plane.
Speaker BThe story of what happened on the plane was replaying the story in the book.
Speaker AWow.
Speaker BAnd it's just an example because in the book, you know, the guy is uncovering with.
Speaker BWith a woman.
Speaker BWith a.
Speaker BWith his friend.
Speaker BThe woman.
Speaker BA woman is on.
Speaker BThey're uncovering the mystery of Pergamon and they're going to bring it to the world.
Speaker BBut these forces are trying to stop them.
Speaker BThese demonic, you know, these people who are led by these demon.
Speaker BAnd what happens is they're traveling and they encounter someone and it's.
Speaker BAnd it's really a pleasant conversation.
Speaker BAnd then suddenly it turns and it shifts and becomes like demonic and evil.
Speaker BAnd then the person threatens them.
Speaker BAnd this is.
Speaker BListen, I'm thinking about this.
Speaker BAt the moment I'm thinking about this.
Speaker BI get an email from someone who's reading the book, and I forgot I wrote this.
Speaker BAnd they said I almost fainted.
Speaker BI said, what do you mean they said?
Speaker BThey said.
Speaker BThey said in the book, the guy who's bringing forth the Mystery of Pergamon, which now is me.
Speaker BRight?
Speaker BBut in the book, it says it's.
Speaker BHe's describing the attack, and he says he put his hands around my neck and put me in a chokehold.
Speaker AYou can't make that up my whole.
Speaker BLife, you know, except when I wrote that, you know, and then at one point, the two.
Speaker BThe man and the woman, they are.
Speaker BThey try to safeguard their laptop from these people, you know, so.
Speaker BSo it's.
Speaker AWow.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AI mean, it's.
Speaker AIt's just incredible.
Speaker ASo here's what I want everybody watching to know.
Speaker AYou know, the spiritual realm is real.
Speaker AOne of the worst mistakes the devil can ever make is to reveal himself to that extent.
Speaker ABecause, like you said, this man is a high iq, you know, vice president, very successful, probably his family's like, this is so out of character for him.
Speaker ABut what is that real?
Speaker AWhat does that help us realize that the demonic is real?
Speaker AI mean, Mary Magdalene had seven demons when she encountered Christ.
Speaker ASo if you were talking to Mary, which one of the eight personalities were you talking to?
Speaker AHers or the seven other spirits?
Speaker ARight.
Speaker AAnd so I think this, in a way, I celebrate the fact that this happened because it's one of those moments where for those of us who see in the spiritual realm, through the Holy Spirit, through the Scriptures, we're like, yes, to the world.
Speaker AThis makes no sense.
Speaker AThey'll just say it's mental illness, even though this guy probably has shown zero signs of that in his everyday life.
Speaker AAnd for us, we'll say, yeah, mental illness is real, but so is demonization.
Speaker AAnd this is what it looks like.
Speaker AAnd so, of course, we are praying for him.
Speaker ALet me know in the comment section if you're.
Speaker AWouldn't that be an awesome Part 3 to this to have him on.
Speaker AAnd he's talking about how, you know, he's the Mary Magdalene now who has been delivered and is telling people about Christ.
Speaker ABut I want to.
Speaker AHere's what I want to jump into real quick.
Speaker AAnd again, you guys have to get the book.
Speaker AI went live immediately after I saw you in the TMZ video because I was like, okay, there's something.
Speaker BYou recognize me there.
Speaker AI kid you not, you know, I follow the news.
Speaker AI have a journalism background.
Speaker AAnd as a pastor of a multi site national church.
Speaker APeople are always asking me, what do you think about stuff?
Speaker AAnd I want to shepherd them.
Speaker AWell, try to give a biblical perspective.
Speaker ASo of course I see the duct tape man, then I see you.
Speaker AAnd I squinted and I said, is that my friend Jonathan?
Speaker AThere's only, you know.
Speaker AAnd I was like, it's got to be him.
Speaker AAnd so then all of a sudden I saw your video and I was like, and as a matter of fact, your video hadn't even aired yet.
Speaker AIt was just the thumbnail, which I'll link it in the description here so you guys can see it.
Speaker AAnd I said, no way.
Speaker AAnd of course I went live.
Speaker AAnd I want everybody to get this book.
Speaker AIt's very obvious now that this book.
Speaker ASee, I always tell people, as somebody who's written books myself, there are books that are written and then there are books that are given.
Speaker AAnd I really believe you're an incredible writer.
Speaker ABut you're receiving these books and you're putting them down.
Speaker AYou're not just writing them, you're receiving them.
Speaker ASo of course we want everybody to buy the book.
Speaker ABut what do you think?
Speaker AThink if you were like, man, this is a significant demonic attack.
Speaker AWhat was the attack over?
Speaker ALike, is there anything you can tell us about the altar of Pergamon that would unlock this more?
Speaker BYeah, and it's perfect.
Speaker BAnd if this is what I mean, what we're doing is great and we don't have to get to other things.
Speaker BWe can do that another time.
Speaker BBut because this is what the Lord wants.
Speaker BYeah, the altar, a few things.
Speaker BOne is that this is exposing the enemy and the dark side of spirituality, number one.
Speaker BSecondly, how its works in the world that have actually affected the entire world in history, including the overall lives that we live.
Speaker BEverybody's been impacted by almost, almost destroyed the world at one point.
Speaker BHe doesn't want anyone to know that that's number two and number three, also that, that it.
Speaker BI.
Speaker BBecause I.
Speaker BBecause I wrote it in the story.
Speaker BHe attacked the story.
Speaker BHe used the story against me on that point because the story is.
Speaker BI did it that way.
Speaker BI was led to do it that way.
Speaker BI mean there's like 200 mysteries there.
Speaker BThere's so much.
Speaker BBut, but I did it in a way that's, that's so not only to reach believers, but to especially to reach also non believers.
Speaker BThey have everybody in their lives who don't support because it is a.
Speaker BPeople say, oh, it's like a thriller.
Speaker BIt's like, it's like, it's like da Vinci Code or it's like Indiana Jones or it's like Lord of the Rings, you know, this ancient thing, Throne of Satan.
Speaker BAnd they can get it.
Speaker BYou know, it'll draw it in.
Speaker BAnd then as it's going like, wait a minute, this is real and God is real and it leads to salvation.
Speaker BI mean, it leads to salvation.
Speaker BSo I believe also this is already touching my heart is not only to strengthen God's people in the fight we have, but also behind us, touch those who don't know the Lord and touch our culture.
Speaker BSo because of what happened on the plane, that's happening already.
Speaker BSo it's also for all the people who will be saved by it because it was written that way.
Speaker AYes.
Speaker AAnd let me just say there's a major confirmation that comes from the Holy Spirit and there are things that he specifically tells us, invest in this, do this thing.
Speaker AAnd the Unoffendable Heart Book, I believe, is a major, major message from the Holy Spirit because we have friends and family members that need that as well.
Speaker AAnd let me just tell you, if the Holy Spirit's leading you to get the Unoffendable Heart Book, I want you to go ahead, tap the link in the description of this video, but also there's a link in the pinned comment and then pre order the book now and as soon as it comes out on October 20th, it'll get sent out to your home.
Speaker ABut I believe that this book is going to be a spiritual weapon that sets you free and many people in your family free.
Speaker AAs a matter of fact, buy it for somebody else as well.
Speaker ADon't just stop at getting a copy for yourself because again, there's people who are like, they will.
Speaker AThank you.
Speaker AOh, the Unoffendable Heart Book.
Speaker AYou got this for me?
Speaker AThank you.
Speaker AAnd they'll start to read it and God will begin to reveal things and expose things in their heart.
Speaker AIf you know somebody church hurt, if you know somebody that has gone through a divorce, if you know somebody who's single right now, if you know somebody that's like, that's even said things like I'll never forgive them or they've been through trauma or abuse, tap the link, it's the first pin comment and go.
Speaker AAnd I want you to pre order the Unoffendable Heart.
Speaker AIt's going to be such a powerful experience to have that book.
Speaker AGet a couple of copies now and, and let me know in the chat after you've gotten the Unoffendable Heart pre ordered.
Speaker ALet me know.
Speaker AI want to shout you out in the chat.
Speaker BAnd then also and the last thing that.
Speaker BThat you know, what this leads to.
Speaker BAnd every book I write leads with, you know, ends with hope.
Speaker BI mean, ends with the call.
Speaker BIs that the charge?
Speaker BListen, we are in a fight, but we are guaranteed to win that fight if we keep fighting and that, you know, and the devil, again, the devil cannot stop your calling.
Speaker BHe cannot stop you from fulfilling the purposes of the.
Speaker BGod has.
Speaker BHe wants to.
Speaker BThat's why.
Speaker BAgain, another reason.
Speaker BHe doesn't want the book, but he wants to, but he can't.
Speaker BIf you keep going, you just.
Speaker BYou just keep going in God.
Speaker BGod's the one and God is in charge.
Speaker BYou know, I could not have.
Speaker BYou know.
Speaker BYou know what?
Speaker BYou know, they put this on People magazine and other places.
Speaker BSo a lot of secular people said, oh, he says that it was all just staged.
Speaker BHe staged it so he could talk about the book.
Speaker BI said, yeah, right.
Speaker BAnd the thing is that.
Speaker BBecause it's like.
Speaker BIt's like saying, oh, look, I see where this is going.
Speaker BThis is being used for the other thing.
Speaker BWell, that's because it's God, you know, and things that.
Speaker BI couldn't control that.
Speaker BAnd the God just happened to have those two people there to make sure everything would be all right, you know, and so.
Speaker BAnd so I believe that is the real thing.
Speaker BIt's a big.
Speaker BAnd I'm like, listen, I knew for years I was supposed to write this book to reveal this mystery, and I didn't know when.
Speaker BAnd so I was praying, and now I got it to do it now.
Speaker BSo it is.
Speaker BAnd I knew what I did.
Speaker BOkay, When I did it.
Speaker BAll right, we're going to tell this.
Speaker AStuff, going to step in it.
Speaker BAnd, you know, so I knew that.
Speaker BSo I.
Speaker BSo we have to know that, you know, ultimately our lives.
Speaker BWhat, what.
Speaker BEverything's happening in the world and in our lives.
Speaker BIt's the spiritual realm that's more real than the physical.
Speaker BAnd that's what determines.
Speaker BThat's what determines it.
Speaker BAnd God.
Speaker BAnd if all these things are real, which they are, this is.
Speaker BThe book is showing how real this is in specific time and space.
Speaker BBut it means God is more real.
Speaker BGod is.
Speaker AOh, that's so good.
Speaker BHis promises are real.
Speaker BWe got to live like that.
Speaker BTake every word for real.
Speaker BGo full blast with it, because it's real.
Speaker BAnd God will.
Speaker BGod will honor his word.
Speaker BGod will honor this.
Speaker BIt's real.
Speaker BTake it.
Speaker BGo with it.
Speaker BDon't live a half life.
Speaker BLike, okay, you know, here, you know, it's real.
Speaker BYes, you will have fights.
Speaker BYes.
Speaker BThings go you know, we all go through tough things.
Speaker BWe.
Speaker BEvery one of us does.
Speaker BThat doesn't nullify it.
Speaker BIt's the fight, and it's a good fight, and you're going to win the fight, you know, get encouraged.
Speaker BSo.
Speaker BSo it's all those things I think the enemy did not want.
Speaker BI mean, I know the enemy didn't want.
Speaker BAnd again, we get attacked at virtually every book.
Speaker BI.
Speaker BBut, you know, as the week was beginning, I'm going over.
Speaker BI looked at my file.
Speaker BIt was Monday night.
Speaker BI'm already on the road, and I'm going over all the attacks and 10 of the 11 books, at least.
Speaker AWow.
Speaker BAnd so.
Speaker BBut this one, because of what it is, we knew it's going to be a dramatic.
Speaker BI mean, it's going to be a dramatic one.
Speaker BAnd we didn't know it was going to be covered by TMZ and people.
Speaker BWe didn't know that, but we knew that because.
Speaker BAnd they don't know that, you know.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BBut.
Speaker BBut we know that because we.
Speaker BWe are of the spiritual and we got to live that way, you know?
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BHow we have.
Speaker BListen, greater is he in you.
Speaker ACome on.
Speaker BMe.
Speaker BThan he was in the world or on any airplane.
Speaker BYou know, he is.
Speaker BGreater is he.
Speaker BAnd that's really true.
Speaker BIt's not hype.
Speaker BIt's real.
Speaker BIt is real.
Speaker BGod is real.
Speaker BThe call is real, and the promise is real, and the victory is real.
Speaker ACome on.
Speaker AThat's right.
Speaker AAnd I've never seen Satan fight harder than when he knows he's going to lose souls.
Speaker AAnd I just want to say this to everybod, everybody watching, because we got the book linked in the first comment as well as the description.
Speaker ASo here's what I love about fiction.
Speaker AI actually have an English degree.
Speaker AMany people may not know that when and when you think about Tolkien, when you think about C.S.
Speaker ALewis, the ability for stories to get into people's lives, a lot of people.
Speaker BSay, you know what?
Speaker AI don't read the Bible.
Speaker AI'm an atheist.
Speaker AI'm agnostic, you know, oh, don't push that Christian stuff on me.
Speaker AI'm telling you, God has heard your cry.
Speaker AI believe this book is for right now.
Speaker AAnd it's going to be one of those books that when people begin to read it, it's like, oh, what an interesting story.
Speaker AThen they get enthralled with it, just like they did with CS Lewis, just like they did with Tolkien.
Speaker ABut the gospel is in that message, and it unveils the work of Satan as well.
Speaker ASo this book is really important for that.
Speaker AAnd I'll tell you, Satan absolutely hates the idea of your friends, your family members, your co workers reading this book.
Speaker AAnd then the scales fall off of their eyes and they get saved.
Speaker AWhich is why I think he attacked the author, the book.
Speaker ABut I. I want to ask you something because I. I was thinking about this, so I.
Speaker AAnd I know we're kind of coming to an end.
Speaker ASo.
Speaker ABy the way, if you guys have watched this far, you're amazing.
Speaker AMake sure you're subscribed to the channel Ring the bell notification so you don't miss it, any one of the videos or live streams.
Speaker ABut something I was thinking about, I just recently revisited Matthew 24.
Speaker AI've been looking at the book of Daniel, the book of Revelation.
Speaker AI know you just took a group to Patmos where you guys were retracing John's steps there, which is amazing.
Speaker BAnd Pergamon and I didn't plan that.
Speaker BI didn't really together.
Speaker BI was scheduled to go there, you know, so get out.
Speaker AOh, see?
Speaker AAnd I just.
Speaker AI love that because we share that, that love for, you know, biblical history, church history.
Speaker AAnd so anyways, as I was retracing the biblical narrative about the end times, and by the way, if you're watching right now, how many of you believe that we are in the end times?
Speaker AOne of the things it says is that the love of many will grow cold and that offense will increase in the earth.
Speaker AAnd everybody talks about wars and rumors of wars, earthquakes, famine.
Speaker AWhat I don't hear enough people talking about is offense increasing as well as the love of many growing cold.
Speaker AAnd to hear that you were subjected to the verbiage and the wording that that guy used.
Speaker AOf course, I'm deeply sorry that you even had to hear that.
Speaker AI mean, it just hurts my heart.
Speaker AAnd we've been praying for you.
Speaker ABut the demonic is connected to that.
Speaker AAnd I think there's a lot of people watching right now that they've been persecuted in their family for following Christ and offenses increasing.
Speaker AAnd so with the altar of Pergamon, how do you see the connection to that with that man?
Speaker AHe tried to interact with believers.
Speaker AIt sounds like he was offended, he was rejected.
Speaker AHe left the faith, or at least church.
Speaker AHow do you see the enemy working in that way?
Speaker ABecause this book is such a powerful evangelism tool.
Speaker ABut there might be.
Speaker ASome people are like, well, I'm hesitant because of offense.
Speaker ABecause of this.
Speaker BYeah, yeah.
Speaker BWell, one thing.
Speaker BYeah, he had rejected it.
Speaker BAnd that kind of opens the door.
Speaker BI mean, because it's you know, I mean, with that.
Speaker BBut the thing is that I think as the culture and along with what it says, it says many will fall away.
Speaker BYou know, it talks about a great falling away and immorality will increase.
Speaker BAnd that goes with all this because now for a believer to say things that were, that everybody said a few years ago, now it's an offense, right now it's an offense where, where in some people they are, they are put on trial, like in Europe for saying things that everybody believes.
Speaker BSo it's because the culture change and now we're saying evil is good and good is evil.
Speaker BSo now we are offended by it.
Speaker BWe're offended by you.
Speaker BAnd he was offended, you know, and the thing is that, that at the same time, the other side of it is, I mean, first of all, if you're getting offense again, again, and remember what, remember Lord said, blessed are you if you're, if people are offended over you.
Speaker AYeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker BSo you're supposed to leap for joy.
Speaker BSo, so don't forget to leave.
Speaker BYou know, we're supposed to, Lord, thank you.
Speaker BAnd I literally, I was doing that.
Speaker BI was, I didn't, wasn't leaping, but I was thanking God on the plane, you know, and that's part of the victory right there.
Speaker BBecause I don't, the main thing is I don't want to offend God.
Speaker BYou know, offending them is okay.
Speaker BBut, but the other thing is that also know that what you're doing, and this is kind of like the subtext of what we're saying, what you're, what you're doing, why you're getting that reaction is because what you're saying is powerful.
Speaker AThat's it.
Speaker BAnd the thing is that that tells you.
Speaker BAnd if the culture is more offended now, it means that what you say is going to make a more, more impact.
Speaker BYou're going to be like the apostle Paul.
Speaker BYou're going to be like the book of Acts when they said it to a pagan thing and they were offended, yet God did great and mighty things.
Speaker BSo if the dark makes, you know, brings out the light and the light becomes, is more powerful in its manifestation.
Speaker BSo what you say, you know, again, if everybody just said, okay, that's great, we're all Christians, you know, it wouldn't make any effect.
Speaker BBut now it is going to make an effect.
Speaker BSo don't stop, be bold.
Speaker BYou can't control people.
Speaker BAnd listen, this guy might get saved.
Speaker BSometimes people are totally offended and then they get saved.
Speaker BSometimes that because you're touching something otherwise if they're not offended, you don't know what, what's happening, but.
Speaker BOr they're not reacting, but they're reacting.
Speaker BSo don't get discouraged.
Speaker BThis is part.
Speaker BThis is all part of it, you know, and we, we may see more of that, but the thing is, it's okay.
Speaker BWe.
Speaker BThat, that's what.
Speaker BThat was how it began.
Speaker BAnd we are to be like the apostles.
Speaker BYou know, this is.
Speaker BEverything's going back.
Speaker BWe're to be like the apostles.
Speaker AYeah, yeah.
Speaker AOh, man, what a mic drop moment, guys.
Speaker AWell, so listen, I have a book coming out called the Unoffendable heart.
Speaker AIt's on October 20th.
Speaker AAnd so.
Speaker AAnd the reason why I say that is because you nailed it.
Speaker AI mean, we have to have the unoffendable heart of Christ.
Speaker ARight?
Speaker AHe's on the cross saying, hey, God, you know, forgive them, for they know not what they do.
Speaker ASo it's like we confront this.
Speaker AIt's like we confront the spirit behind the man, but we have compassion for the man.
Speaker AAnd in the process of doing the will of the Father, we will offend many people, but we must remain unoffendable.
Speaker ASo thank you so much for modeling that for many.
Speaker AI think even the way that you've dealt with this situation has shown the compassion of Christ, but the confrontation to the spirit behind that man.
Speaker AAnd so you, You've been.
Speaker AYou've been an example.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BNot against flesh and blood.
Speaker BAnd I really feel for him that we.
Speaker BAnd we can do that because we are on the winning side.
Speaker AThat's it.
Speaker BIf you're on the losing side, you're going to be mad about everything.
Speaker BBut if you're on the winning side, like, wait, that didn't, that didn't take away nothing.
Speaker BCan.
Speaker BYou know, if God's going to work all things for good, then what did they do?
Speaker BEven what they did, even they thought they were doing something, it's not.
Speaker BIt's going to bless me.
Speaker BSo why am I getting upset about being blessed?
Speaker BYou know, so.
Speaker BSo we can bless people.
Speaker BWe can love those who come against us and, and pray and redeem God.
Speaker BThis is not redemption, you know, I love it.
Speaker AOh, I love Jonathan Khan.
Speaker AThank you so much.
Speaker BAnd I know you said it, but this is what, this is what offended him.
Speaker BDon't be offended by this.
Speaker BAgain, a good reaction when you see it.
Speaker BDon't have the reaction the guy.
Speaker BBut.
Speaker BBut again, I just use different people in your life as well as yourself.
Speaker BBut yeah, and that's it.
Speaker BLike, the cool thing about this, we're.
Speaker BThat's okay.
Speaker BWe were going to talk about was in the book.
Speaker BIt's good.
Speaker BWe'll do.
Speaker BIf you're okay in the future, we can do another.
Speaker BA thing where we can actually.
Speaker BYeah, if you want to.
Speaker BBut this was great.
Speaker BThis was what God wanted and he wanted to really touch people where they are.
Speaker AAbsolutely.
Speaker AWhat's funny is when I went live right after the situation happened, I put your book cover on my screen 50 times because I said if this is the book that's irritating demons, let's just go and irritate millions of demons right now.
Speaker AAnd guys, again, the book is in the description.
Speaker AI really believe it's one of those books.
Speaker AAnd I'm not just saying this, but I believe it because I understand the power of books like this because stories can enter people's hearts, their imagination and then eventually get into their spirit.
Speaker AThe Bible talks about your eyes being a gate, you know, the window to your soul.
Speaker AAnd so if you can bring this into your soul, God can do a work.
Speaker AIt's a seed that goes in.
Speaker AAnd I think there's many of you that are going to get multiple copies.
Speaker AGive them to your kids, your friends, your family members.
Speaker ABut yeah, you're right.
Speaker AMaybe we'll do a part two.
Speaker AWe can go a little bit deeper especially as people get the book and we can go dissect it spiritually more were.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BThe mystery.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BBut this is great, Mike.
Speaker BAnd you're always a blessing, you know, and.
Speaker BAnd people see you on there like they see me you too.
Speaker BI.
Speaker BBut I.
Speaker BWe know each other personally and you're a wonderful person and I.
Speaker BIt's a joy to know you.
Speaker BTruly joy to know you and it's a joy.
Speaker BSo yeah.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BI love your heart.
Speaker BIt just.
Speaker BAnd this was the spirit God wants to speak several things to people who are.
Speaker BWho are listening of their.
Speaker AThat's it.
Speaker AYeah, I felt it.
Speaker AAnd this.
Speaker AI think this broadcast was important because you know what you're demonstra.
Speaker AHe's like.
Speaker AI mean you were subjected to.
Speaker AAnd I'm going to say it but you were subjected to physical and verbal, you know, attack.
Speaker AAnd most people would, you know, be dealing with that in the natural.
Speaker AWith it's, you know, could be a PTSD inducing situation.
Speaker ABut I think what you're showing people is man, the spirit of the living.
Speaker AGod's on the inside of you and it's like you're rejoicing while it's happening.
Speaker AYou're praying for the man, you know, and.
Speaker AAnd it's.
Speaker AAnd I just.
Speaker AThe fruit of the Spirit is just emanating from you.
Speaker ASo we're thankful for you and for your example.
Speaker AAnd as you guys get this book, maybe we'll have them come back on and go dissect some of the themes even deeper.
Speaker ABut I think the theme of this one is, I believe if you're offendable, you're deceivable.
Speaker AAnd it's like that man, he was offended, and then it opened up a realm of deceit.
Speaker AAnd then you see this demonic doors open, manifestations and all that.
Speaker AAnd so thank you for showing us what it looks like to not only have an unoffendable heart, but, you know, a lot of people would say, well, if I know I'm going to get attacked by the enemy, why even do it?
Speaker ARight?
Speaker ABut I think what you're saying is, no, the attack is the evidence that you're doing the right thing.
Speaker AImagine if the Apostle Paul said, well, I was beaten and imprisoned.
Speaker ASo let me just give up, because one of the things.
Speaker AI want to speak to this real quick.
Speaker AMaybe this is the last thing.
Speaker AAnd then we'll.
Speaker AWe'll click off.
Speaker AThere were people in the comments section saying, well, if he's really a man of God, why would he be attacked?
Speaker AIf he.
Speaker AYou know, why didn't he take authority over the spirit?
Speaker AAnd I was like, hold on now, because I just got a 4.0 in a master's of theology myself.
Speaker AI just went back to school.
Speaker AI got an A plus in Biblical Greek, and I just retraced the Apostle Paul's steps myself for the second time.
Speaker AAnd the reality is, even Paul casting demons out of people confronting, he still was attacked, shipwrecked, beaten in prison.
Speaker AAnd I think Christians have this idea that you're just gonna say a prayer, and it's like, no, no.
Speaker AWhen you get to the level of warfare of someone like Jonathan, someone who's doing a massive global push for a book that's gonna expose the devil, that level of attack, what we're celebrating is that you came out of it unscathed, just like Paul came out of prison, just like Paul walked away from the beatings.
Speaker ABut this idea that we're gonna be exempt from it just because we say magic words is biblically inept.
Speaker AYou know, we got to go deeper than that.
Speaker ASo I just wanted to personally get your back on that.
Speaker AI don't know if you have any thoughts.
Speaker BYes.
Speaker BOh, yeah.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BWell, listen, listen.
Speaker BThe Bible never is.
Speaker BYeah, sometimes we say things that are not really, like, a little part of the Bible, but it's not the Whole.
Speaker BThe Bible.
Speaker BListen, look at all the people of the Bible.
Speaker BAnd they look at, look at Hebrews 11.
Speaker BLook at all the people of faith.
Speaker BBut what they went through, Listen, if you're not getting opposition, you're not doing God's will.
Speaker BCome on.
Speaker BAnd you know, and there are those, Listen, there are those who die for their faith.
Speaker BThey are martyrs, you know, they're those, right?
Speaker BYou know, the Lord, who had more power than the Lord, and he was crucified because God was going to do something greater, you know, and the same with Paul.
Speaker BHe's put in prison, but he starts.
Speaker BHe doesn't say, I can never go to prison.
Speaker BHe goes in prison.
Speaker BHe started.
Speaker BHe praises God in the prison.
Speaker BThat was the victory.
Speaker BAnd he writes the epistles in the prison.
Speaker BSo he touches billions instead of thousands.
Speaker BSo God is so much deeper and bigger.
Speaker BIt's okay.
Speaker BWe do have the victory.
Speaker BIt's not always the way we think, but we are guaranteed victory no matter what.
Speaker BAnd, and that.
Speaker BAnd you cannot have victory without opposition.
Speaker BYou cannot have victory without that.
Speaker BSo that does happen.
Speaker BAnd yet we do have the victory.
Speaker BAnd you know, I thought about that afterwards, you know, because listen, the, the Judas had a demon, you know, Right?
Speaker AYes.
Speaker BBut it was.
Speaker BGod had something greater.
Speaker BAnd God actually was using all this, you know.
Speaker BYou know, he just had.
Speaker BUsing all this to do something greater than we could have ever done before, to get the word out, you know, so it's amazing.
Speaker BGod is on the throne, man.
Speaker AJonathan Cahn, you are on fire.
Speaker AEvery time I'm with you, you're going from glory to glory.
Speaker ASo you don't know this.
Speaker AThere's no way you could know it.
Speaker AThe big moment of my book towards the end is me breaking down the original Greek.
Speaker AThat explains when Judas became offended because of course he said, well, that oil is a year's worth of wages.
Speaker AWhy did you use it?
Speaker AAnd allow her to use it in worship?
Speaker AAnd then Jesus responds, you don't even care about the poor.
Speaker AAnd the Bible says that he became offended.
Speaker ABut when you look at the original Greek, it's the equivalency of, of like a door is cracked, you open it up.
Speaker ABut then Satan kicks it off the hinges and enters the heart of Judas and a fence actually opened that door and he forcibly entered his heart.
Speaker AAnd you're speaking to it now.
Speaker ASo I think what you said is so good and it helped many.
Speaker ASo hopefully it's case closed on that one.
Speaker ABut thank you so much for your life, for your example, this book.
Speaker AAnd we cannot wait to dive in deeper.
Speaker AI really appreciate you.
Speaker BThank you so much, Mike.
Speaker BIt's always a blessing.
Speaker AAll right, guys, if you like this, hit the thumbs up and hit that share button and get it to a few friends and show them what God's doing.
Speaker AHey, are you living in a culture that keeps handing us reasons to be offended?
Speaker AI know I am.
Speaker AAnd if we're not careful, we can carry that offense for years without realizing what it's actually costing us.
Speaker AI mean, maybe it came through a broken relationship, a difficult co worker, hello, betrayal in your family, or division in your church, which is so real.
Speaker AYou prayed, you tried to move on, but that hurt.
Speaker AIt stayed.
Speaker AI'm Pastor Mike Signorelli, and I wrote the Unoffendable Heart because I know what it's like to carry a fence, and I know the freedom that Jesus offers on the other side of it.
Speaker AJesus, he faced betrayal, rejection, and injustice, and he didn't just need thicker skin.
Speaker AThat's what the world tells us.
Speaker AYou know, he had a stronger heart.
Speaker AAnd that same kind of heart is available to you today.
Speaker AYou know, this book will help you heal the wounds that keep getting touched, break the cycles of resentment, deal with difficult people without actually becoming one, and then step back into relationships with wisdom, with freedom and love.
Speaker ASo pre order the Unoffendable Heart today and let God make your heart strong again.
Speaker AThis is a message from him.
Speaker APre order the book now.
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