(305) “A Heart for Israel” with Claren McQueen

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God's heart is for that promise that he made

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to Abraham because he knows the rest is the promise

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is and through you all the nations will be blessed.

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So he's being faithful to all of us. He's just

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using the people of Israel, the children of Abraham

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to do that. God promises in Joel 2 .28 to pour

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out His Spirit on all humanity. Welcome to global

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outpouring, where we contend for that promised

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outpouring, we equip for that outpouring, so

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that we may engage in that very outpouring. I'm

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Philip Buss. And I'm Sharon Buss. Welcome to

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the podcast today. We have with us a dear, dear

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friend of many years, Claren McQueen. He's a

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worship leader for conventions and other events.

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And he has a heart for Israel that he's going

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to impart to you. Thanks for joining us today.

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if you don't tell us. So we want to encourage

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you also to click on the events tab. and look

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at the convention 2026 information. You can register

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there and you can make reservations at the Hilton

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Hotel. It's the Hilton St. Louis Airport Hotel

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where we're holding this event May 21st through

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24th in 2026. This is going to be an amazing

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time and Claren McQueen is one of our speakers.

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He is so passionate for the Lord. He's a passionate

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worshiper and he's a passionate preacher too.

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often get to hear him preach, you know, but he

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is amazing, and he spent 12 years living in Israel,

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so he has a heart for Israel that is contagious.

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You're going to love this interview. Well, Claren,

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it is such a delight to have you with us again.

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We've had you with us on the podcast at least

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a couple of other times, and we have you at every

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convention. for many years, and you lead us into

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the presence of the Lord. We just love worshiping

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with you. So we welcome you to the Global Outpouring

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Podcast once again. Well, it is wonderful to

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be back with you. I feel like I'm kind of a part

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of me and Angletall just talking to you, looking

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at the room you're sitting in. Absolutely, absolutely.

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And we've been in your home, so I know exactly

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where you are in your study. And we feel at home

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with you. We've been good friends for a long,

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long time. And the best part, the best part of

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our relationship is worshiping together. You're

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our favorite worship leader. We just love to

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worship together with you. So speaking of worshiping

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together. Let's talk about convention 2026. Do

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you have any expectations or do you want to just

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mention what convention is to you? Well, I do

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have expectation, especially for this year. There's

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a new hotel that I haven't seen that you have

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talked wonderfully about. But the big thing is

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that it is going to be on Chevrolet. Oh, really?

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I didn't realize. Oh, yeah. I've forgotten exactly

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which day it falls, but Shavuot is right smack

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in the middle. And, you know, I believe biblically

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speaking, if we look at the fulfillment of Pentecost

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and the feast of firstfruits and unleavened bread,

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we all know that that was fulfilled as Jesus

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was crucified as the sacrifice lamb and then

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was resurrected as the firstfruits. And Shavuot,

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we know, began at Pentecost, now 2 ,000 years

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ago. But the picture of Shavuot, we think of

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it as a feast of first fruits. But it's really

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the feast of the first fruits that begins the

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harvest. That's the picture of Shavuot, which

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is what global outpouring is all about, the harvest.

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So I, because of the times that we live in, I

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think all of us, our friends in Israel, our friends,

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Christine and Peter Darg, various people all

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over the earth, Dave Dolan, we're all, as we're

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praying, you have to sense we're in a Kairos

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moment. And none of us knows what's going to

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happen, but we know it's a Kairos time. Explain

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what that means. There is the minute by minute

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time, but in Greek, kairos is a moment that brings

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eternity into time. And God acts in that eternal

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moment. 1967 was a kairos moment. 1948 was a

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kairos. moment. 1776 was a kairos moment in which

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he took those covenants from 1620 and he put

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them into action despite what was going on on

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the earth. You know we think what a terrible

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thing that there had to be insurrection, there

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had to be rebellion, there had to be so many

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people die. And yes, that was terrible, but God

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takes that terrible time and works it into his

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eternal time and brings forth a greater fruit

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out of that suffering. And we've watched that

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all through the years of history. So we're sitting

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in one of those moments. We watched it in Iran

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just a few weeks ago. We've been watching it

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in Israel for the last two years. We've watched

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it in our own country being upheaval of all kinds,

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riots in the streets and things that we never

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would have thought to see in the United States

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of America. We watched the same kind of thing

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in China, in Nigeria, things where you can see

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the forces of evil are working against the eternal

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forces of the living God. But we know that there's

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not really a contest. But it's up to us to pray

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that victory into being. So I'm looking in this

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Kairos moment, I think that this time of global

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outpouring at Shavuot, hallelujah, is going to

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be an awesome time. Wow, absolutely. It may have

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gotten onto my radar, but I think I forgot. But

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I just, I'm overwhelmed that God would give us

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that gift of having Shavuot, having Pentecost

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during the convention. Like, wow, that is overwhelming.

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What a privilege. What a privilege to gather

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together because that's the time you're supposed

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to gather together and biblically. Yes. In Old

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Testament times, and even New Testament times,

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the men were required to come. And of course,

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they brought their families when it worked, because,

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you know, Jesus came up at the age of 12 and

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his mother was there. So they would come up for

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Passover, they would come up for Shavuot or Pentecost,

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and they would come up for Feast of Tabernacles.

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So it's a time for gathering. It's a time when

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we're supposed to gather together. And, you know,

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that's just... That's just an amen to me about

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we're on time. We're doing what we're supposed

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to be doing when we're supposed to be doing it.

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And I love that. Wow. And it's a time where we're

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offering God the fruits that we have already,

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but then we're rejoicing over the harvest that

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we haven't seen yet. Yes. That's good. I just

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think that with the whole purpose of global outpouring,

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that is the perfect. And you know, with these

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new dates that we're observing where we're floating

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around that particular holiday, we're going to

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find this over and over because Shavuot always

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floats. It's very close to that time of the end

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of May. Yeah. Wow. That is exciting. That is

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exciting. Wow. Glory to God. Yeah. So what do

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you expect to happen in worship this time? What

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always happens in the end and worship is that

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God inhabits the praises of his people. Which

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is, we've talked about this many times before.

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That is the thing that I have always loved about

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the handmaidens as servants is that they come

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together. You know, we've played at different

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venues all over the world. And in many places,

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especially in the West, you encounter people,

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they're not exactly doing this, but they're sort

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of folding their arms and waiting for the Holy

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Spirit to zap them. And he does, you know, he

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always manifests his presence and we almost always

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find that at the end, Most people have come into

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that habitation of the Holy Spirit that the Lord

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loves when we worship, and He does inhabit that.

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But the handmaidens and servants, being who they

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are, never ever start a worship service like

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that. They start down on their faces, hands in

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the air, they start ready to roll. And back when

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they had phone books, I used to say, you could

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sing the phone book to these people and they

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would get blessed. And I know that they would

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have. That's a joke, but they would have. Because

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they came to get something from God. So then

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a different thing happens in that worship service,

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because you've got however many hundred people

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come together. And then something unique happens

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in corporate worship. I love worshiping at home.

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Nancy and I are blessed that she's a harpist

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and I'm a pianist. We can make our own music

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and that's wonderful, but there's a whole other

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thing that happens in corporate worship. That

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can only happen as you get all of those vessels

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filled with the Holy Spirit and the Holy Spirit

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begins to move. It is greater than the sum of

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its parts always. Yeah, it's synergy. Yes. Yeah,

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it's beautiful. It's beautiful. Well, we're excited

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and we're inviting everyone that's listening

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and watching to join us May 21st through 24th

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in St. Louis at the Hilton that's right at the

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airport, the Hilton St. Louis Airport Hotel.

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It's right by the interstate. It's easy to get

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to and It's going to be life -changing. So we

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really encourage you to come. Hallelujah. So

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Clarence, you've been loving the Lord all your

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life, right? As a little boy, you were raised

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in a Pentecostal church. Your mother was the

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organist or pianist or something, right? Yes.

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One or the other, always. Yeah. So you grew up

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wanting... Tell the story about maybe maybe I

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can tell the story that your mother told me About

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how how when you were little you wanted her to

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teach you how to play the piano and she said

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They're there when you start school will do that

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and you came home from school in your first day

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of school and said, okay I'm ready to start learning

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piano Yes, and it was only kindergarten She was

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thinking in the first grade after I'd learned

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to read and, you know, had some, I could read

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the instructions in the books, but kindergarten

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was school. I had just spent all those hours

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that first day in kindergarten. I was excited

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about being in kindergarten, but I was really

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excited about getting to learn to play the piano.

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And our front door, stood about five feet from

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the piano. So I remember I ran through the front

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door. I slid onto the piano bench and said, okay,

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let's start. Really? Wow. And she started saying,

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she was afraid my hands were too small and my

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feet, of course, didn't have a prayer reaching

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the pedals. So she thought I would start and

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then I would be unhappy with it. You know, they

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tell you when a woman is pregnant, if you want

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your child interested in any sort of auditory

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anything, or even just to read to them while

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they're in the womb. I know many parents do that

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now. Well, my mom was teaching piano lessons

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until she was eight months pregnant. So I was

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right there at the keyboard as my ears were being

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formed. And I cannot remember a time when I didn't

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think that I was a pianist. I'm sure I drove

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my parents crazy because at three years old,

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I would go practice the piano. And you know,

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what was I, I have no idea what that sounded

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like, but I'm sure it was awful. My folks allowed

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me to do that. And then by the time I got to

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five, then I could really start. So I learned

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to read music before I ever learned to read.

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Wow. I remember your mom saying one of the hardest

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things was to get you to go to bed at night.

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It was pulling you off the piano. Because you

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couldn't get you off the piano. When I was in

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grade school, sometime around the fifth grade,

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they came to me and said, honey, would you like

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to have the piano in your bedroom? Oh, what a

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gift. My parents are letting me out. I didn't

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realize they were getting the piano out of the

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living room so they could sing. Wow. Wow, wow,

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wow. Glory to God. Well, that sure paid off for

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you. Absolutely. Absolutely. Amen. So when you

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went to college, you went to ORU and you were

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studying music with one of these great pianists

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and then you wound up being a part of a musical

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group that came from ORU. Can you give us a little

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taste of what that was and where it took you?

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Well, actually, before I formed that group in

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High school, I floated away a little bit. I was

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still playing for the choir at church. I was

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doing, I think what a lot of kids can do in church,

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that you think you're saved because you're going

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through the motions. But I really was not at

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the point that God was in charge. And I... Heard

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one sermon that my precious minister, Brother

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Millard, at Sheridan Assembly in Tulsa, Oklahoma,

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he preached a sermon that said, it doesn't matter

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that you believe. He said the demons believe.

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In fact, they do more than believe. They know.

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They don't obey. What matters is that you are

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willing to obey. Anything God tells you, everything

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God tells you. And he said, if you're not doing

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that, you're going to hell. It scared me to death.

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I went home. Now, I was busy being cool. This

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was the 70s. I was trying to grow my hair a little

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longer. I was trying to, you know, not really

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into anything yet, but I was contemplating all

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of it. And I went home scared to death. I was

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ready to break all my records. And I told the

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Lord, I'll do anything you tell me, anything

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at all. And the very next day, a Christian group

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who all had perfectly cut hair and wore matching

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outfits, the group that I would never ever have

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joined, they called me up and they needed a piano

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player. But I had just told God I'll do anything.

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And that's really what turned my life completely.

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I had grown up in church. I knew the gospel.

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I knew biblical verses. And if you're watching

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this or listening to it and this is you, it doesn't

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matter that you believe. If you're believing

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but you're having problems in your life, The

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reason you're having problems is because God's

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not in charge. If all you do is believe, you

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just know there is a Jesus. He did save people

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from their sins, but he's not telling you what

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the next step is in your life and the next step

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after that and the next step after that. That's

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what being a Christian is. If you're not doing

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that, you're not there yet. And if you go there,

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it will totally change. who you are, and it will

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change how your life runs for the rest of your

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life. And it doesn't matter if you're 50, 60,

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13, 18, whatever age you are, God cannot take

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you where he wants to take you if you're still

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in charge. It won't ever work. So once I did

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that, I was actually very unhappy. before I joined

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that group, even though I was at a wonderful

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church, had a great youth group in their youth

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program, music program. And the whole reason

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that I wound up at ORU is because of this group

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that I joined that were so sold out and they

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were happy. And I believed everything that they

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believed, but I was not happy. And I realized

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the reason they were happy is because they'd

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given up. You know, the James in the fourth chapter

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says, God, you give a greater grace to the humble.

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You're opposed to the proud, but you give a greater

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grace to the humble. And then the next verse

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says, so I submit therefore to you, Lord. And

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that's really what humility is. Humility is recognizing

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I am a little kid. You are a great big God. I

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love the song that you sing for children, Sharon,

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that says we've got a God that's so big, so strong

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and so mighty, there's nothing he can't do. Once

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you realize that, like a little kid, then it's

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not a, you know, I always choose to read that

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verse and say, ooh, submit. That's such a...

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scary word, submit. What's God going to tell

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me to do? But it's not a scary word. It's a wonderful

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word. You can submit into those wonderful, strong,

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mighty, wise arms and say whatever you say. Anything

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you say, I'll do it. You know, when I moved to

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Jerusalem, I did not want to move to Jerusalem.

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God just was very obviously opening the doors

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and pointing his finger and say, you. over here.

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So I kind of went kicking and screaming, but

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I had learned if God says it, that's what you

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need to do. And that has totally changed my life.

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And I learned to do that in that very first music

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group that I joined. So then the music group

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at ORU was really an outworking of that first

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music group. that I was in in high school I used

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a lot of the things that I used in that first

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group and the next groups that I put together

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and then eventually when I left college just

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kept on putting groups together, and I've done

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that in one way or another for the rest of my

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life. Well, we're glad you put us together with

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you too. Yeah, that was totally a surprise. We

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came to Florida for an event down there in Lakeland,

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I think it was, and we came to run the book table

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and lead worship for a set, and we ended up being

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in the choir. Yeah. That was great. We loved

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getting connected with you and then going from

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there to the Feast of Tabernacles to sing in

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that group. That was tremendous. So you mentioned

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going to Jerusalem and you mentioned kicking

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and screaming to go there. Tell us what you didn't

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understand about Israel and what you came to

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understand and how you came to love the nation

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of Israel. I did not have, and I'm going to be

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speaking about this, I believe the Lord will

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have me do this at the convention. I think there

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are a number of Christians in our day who think

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that I can believe in Jesus and then I can choose

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whether I believe in God's plan for Israel or

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not. that that plan for Israel is not necessarily

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a part of his plan for salvation. And that is

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really where I lived. My whole life was dedicated

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to missions. And when I first went to Israel,

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the Lord opened amazing doors in Israel and in

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Egypt. My group that I had put together, Epiphany,

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were in Israel for six weeks and Egypt for two

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weeks. We sang. for the Israeli army. Three times

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we sang on an atheist kibbutz. That was an experience

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for sure. And all the songs that we knew in Hebrew

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were Bible verses. But the Lord worked it out

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to be a wonderful time. So I went on that trip,

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but Israel itself to me, I was there the first

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time in 1982. So it's much more westernized has

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a lot more of the amenities now that it had back

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in 1982. And it, you know, I saw it as a beautiful

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country filled with wonderful people, but in

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Israel and in Egypt, it is not at all, you know,

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having been there, it is not quite the cushy

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life that we live in North America. And I had

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been working in Europe. So for five years, I'd

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been in all over Scandinavia and Germany, France,

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beautiful countries with every amenity you could

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wish for and very needy. At the time, the percentage

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of people going to church in Denmark was less

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than 7%. In Sweden, it was even less than that.

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So I felt like I was really doing a work that

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was needed. In Israel, of course, I didn't realize

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it, but the Lord took us there in 1982 when a

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tremendous revival was beginning. But it didn't

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look to us like a tremendous revival because

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we were used to what we'd been seeing in the

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West with huge conventions with hundreds of kids

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that came and people that really loved the music

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that we were making and the message that we had.

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And of course, Israel was just to us, you know,

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a big meeting in Israel was 150 people. It was

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a great big meeting. So when the Lord opened

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the door to go, I really thought, what am I going

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to do here? You know, I knew I was to go and

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He gave me the tremendous opportunity. I studied

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at the Institute of Holy Land Studies and then

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Hebrew University as well. learning biblical

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background. What was the world like in Elijah's

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time? What was it like in Moses' time? What did

00:26:00.019 --> 00:26:02.819
those words that Isaiah spoke, how did those

00:26:02.819 --> 00:26:07.380
people hear them? Because of the life that they

00:26:07.380 --> 00:26:10.539
were living at that time, which was absolutely

00:26:10.539 --> 00:26:16.039
fascinating. And I loved that part. But the Israelis

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themselves have a description of a sabra, one

00:26:21.329 --> 00:26:25.569
who is a native -born Israeli, that they're like

00:26:25.569 --> 00:26:28.869
the sabra cactus, which the sabra cactus, if

00:26:28.869 --> 00:26:32.150
you've ever seen it, has really huge spikes.

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And you don't want to fiddle with a sabra cactus

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unless you have to. But if you put on thick gloves

00:26:39.210 --> 00:26:43.269
and you open it up, it's very sweet. It's almost

00:26:43.269 --> 00:26:46.630
luscious fruit inside. And so that's their picture

00:26:46.630 --> 00:26:49.069
of themselves. We're kind of prickly on the outside.

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You want to, you know, be careful with us, but

00:26:52.069 --> 00:26:54.250
we're great to know once you get to know us.

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And I am not that kind of person, or at least

00:26:58.730 --> 00:27:03.049
I don't think I am. No, you're not. My lovely

00:27:03.049 --> 00:27:05.490
wife might describe me as prickly sometimes,

00:27:06.369 --> 00:27:11.049
but in Scandinavia, everybody's friendly to everybody.

00:27:12.140 --> 00:27:14.240
Even if you don't like each other, you're still

00:27:14.240 --> 00:27:19.619
nice to each other. And so the society that I

00:27:19.619 --> 00:27:24.279
was thrust into in Israel was, it was a new thing

00:27:24.279 --> 00:27:29.019
to me. It was like I had moved to the Bronx and

00:27:29.019 --> 00:27:33.519
I feel the same way in the Bronx. Why is everybody

00:27:33.519 --> 00:27:38.519
yelling at each other? And I didn't understand

00:27:38.519 --> 00:27:43.589
the complete faithfulness of God's covenant.

00:27:45.190 --> 00:27:49.920
I would have numerous conversations with friends

00:27:49.920 --> 00:27:53.079
in Israel that would try to explain to me, you

00:27:53.079 --> 00:27:54.940
know, this is the plan of God for the Jewish

00:27:54.940 --> 00:27:57.539
people and that's what affects every one of us

00:27:57.539 --> 00:28:00.420
in the church. And I would be saying, how can

00:28:00.420 --> 00:28:03.640
that be true? How can God who loves everyone

00:28:03.640 --> 00:28:07.819
have these special people that he loves better

00:28:07.819 --> 00:28:10.759
than everybody else? Because I just did not get

00:28:10.759 --> 00:28:14.960
it. And it really wasn't until I began to work

00:28:14.960 --> 00:28:19.390
with the Christian embassy, And the second year

00:28:19.390 --> 00:28:24.410
I worked with them, they put together, glasnost

00:28:24.410 --> 00:28:27.569
had just started in what was still the Soviet

00:28:27.569 --> 00:28:32.109
Union. Explain that. Explain what is glasnost,

00:28:32.269 --> 00:28:34.150
because some of our listeners might not know.

00:28:34.250 --> 00:28:38.150
I think the Russian words means openness. And

00:28:38.150 --> 00:28:40.970
so the government of the Soviet Union had said,

00:28:41.109 --> 00:28:44.829
we're going to be more open. We're going to allow

00:28:44.829 --> 00:28:49.359
people to meet together. and greater freedom,

00:28:49.839 --> 00:28:56.099
and it gave us a opportunity to go to Russia.

00:28:56.420 --> 00:29:00.740
So we went to Russia, we took ballerinas, wonderful

00:29:00.740 --> 00:29:05.000
dancers from all over Europe, we took fantastic

00:29:05.000 --> 00:29:08.579
singers and great players, and we took, back

00:29:08.579 --> 00:29:13.480
then, a slideshow of what life was like in Israel

00:29:13.480 --> 00:29:16.380
because at the same time that the Soviet Union

00:29:16.380 --> 00:29:19.420
was allowing things to open up a little bit,

00:29:19.680 --> 00:29:24.859
they were also demeaning life in Israel. It was

00:29:24.859 --> 00:29:28.359
fake news to the max for life in Israel because

00:29:28.359 --> 00:29:30.380
they didn't want the Jewish people to go there.

00:29:31.029 --> 00:29:33.670
They had opened it up so that you actually could

00:29:33.670 --> 00:29:36.690
get there as a Jewish person, which was not true

00:29:36.690 --> 00:29:39.549
before that. But they didn't want to lose them

00:29:39.549 --> 00:29:42.930
because the Jewish people were all doctors, lawyers,

00:29:43.430 --> 00:29:47.390
teachers, artists, wonderful instrumentalists.

00:29:47.910 --> 00:29:51.490
And so we put this concert schedule together.

00:29:51.509 --> 00:29:54.529
We didn't go to churches because we were wanting

00:29:54.529 --> 00:29:58.269
to speak to the Jews. So we rented halls. We

00:29:58.269 --> 00:30:04.759
were in Kyiv. Odessa, Moscow, and St. Petersburg.

00:30:06.180 --> 00:30:10.359
And I remember the time that the Lord really

00:30:10.359 --> 00:30:15.400
spoke to my heart. We were in a concert in Kyiv,

00:30:16.299 --> 00:30:20.140
and every night as part of our concert, we would

00:30:20.140 --> 00:30:25.819
just read some prophecy to them. because most

00:30:25.819 --> 00:30:29.039
of them had never set foot in a synagogue. Most

00:30:29.039 --> 00:30:32.359
of them had never opened a Bible. You know, they

00:30:32.359 --> 00:30:35.119
were raised under communism. So most of them

00:30:35.119 --> 00:30:39.200
were trained. There's nothing. There's just Lenin

00:30:39.200 --> 00:30:42.299
and Stalin and whoever's in office right now.

00:30:42.640 --> 00:30:44.819
That's who you look to. You don't look to anyone

00:30:44.819 --> 00:30:50.920
else. And I remember one lady after a concert

00:30:50.920 --> 00:30:54.660
asked me, So why is it that you people are doing

00:30:54.660 --> 00:30:56.819
this? You live in Israel, why did you come all

00:30:56.819 --> 00:30:59.819
this way? You're Jews and Gentiles, we're amazed

00:30:59.819 --> 00:31:03.299
that you can work together, but what causes you

00:31:03.299 --> 00:31:07.279
to want to do this? And I said, well, you know,

00:31:07.400 --> 00:31:10.559
Jeremiah said, and I began to quote some verse

00:31:10.559 --> 00:31:13.460
in Jeremiah, and she stopped me and she said,

00:31:13.619 --> 00:31:18.980
wait a minute, Jeremiah who? She absolutely was

00:31:18.980 --> 00:31:25.019
unfamiliar. So this night, We're reading, it

00:31:25.019 --> 00:31:29.799
was Isaiah 43, and we're reading just a portion

00:31:29.799 --> 00:31:33.359
of Isaiah 43 to this totally secular audience.

00:31:33.839 --> 00:31:36.740
And you can watch people, I'm standing backstage,

00:31:36.880 --> 00:31:39.259
I'm not the one reading, but I can see the people,

00:31:39.900 --> 00:31:43.359
and people begin stroking their chin, and they're

00:31:43.359 --> 00:31:47.000
taking off their glasses. I see some tears in

00:31:47.000 --> 00:31:49.920
some people's eyes. And if you're familiar with

00:31:49.920 --> 00:31:54.349
Isaiah 43, It's in that chapter that God says,

00:31:55.130 --> 00:31:57.890
not only will I bring you back to the land, I

00:31:57.890 --> 00:32:00.130
will say to the north, give up. I will say to

00:32:00.130 --> 00:32:02.869
the south, do not hold back. I will bring you

00:32:02.869 --> 00:32:08.069
from the east to the west. But when I do this,

00:32:08.470 --> 00:32:13.769
then you yourself will be the witness that I

00:32:13.769 --> 00:32:18.529
am God and there is no other. I am God and there

00:32:18.529 --> 00:32:23.900
has never been another savior. Yeah. And that

00:32:23.900 --> 00:32:25.740
was the first time I realized, you know, I had

00:32:25.740 --> 00:32:29.720
read that verse before and I always read it thinking,

00:32:30.720 --> 00:32:34.759
you will either get witnessed to by somebody

00:32:34.759 --> 00:32:38.799
or you will go out and witness. But that's not

00:32:38.799 --> 00:32:43.779
what God said. He said, you yourself, when I

00:32:43.779 --> 00:32:46.480
bring you back, now this is, he's saying, I'm

00:32:46.480 --> 00:32:51.339
gonna bring you back. And when you get to, Israel,

00:32:52.119 --> 00:32:56.619
which people were reading at the time for 2 ,000

00:32:56.619 --> 00:32:58.779
years people read that and there was no Israel

00:32:58.779 --> 00:33:03.079
to get to. But the prophecy, the word never changed.

00:33:04.059 --> 00:33:07.400
So now we're reading it to these people in the

00:33:07.400 --> 00:33:10.319
20th century who've never heard the prophets

00:33:10.319 --> 00:33:15.440
at all. They know nothing about scripture. And

00:33:15.440 --> 00:33:19.039
all of a sudden, one of their own prophets is

00:33:19.039 --> 00:33:22.900
saying to them, there will be a time when I will

00:33:22.900 --> 00:33:25.980
bring you from the East and the West. I will

00:33:25.980 --> 00:33:28.119
bring you from the North. They're living in the

00:33:28.119 --> 00:33:31.160
North and they know it. I will say to the North,

00:33:31.579 --> 00:33:35.579
do not hold back. What had been happening for

00:33:35.579 --> 00:33:38.660
the last 30 years, the North had been holding

00:33:38.660 --> 00:33:42.500
back. But God says, I'm gonna speak to your government

00:33:42.500 --> 00:33:46.240
and I'm gonna tell your government, No, you cannot

00:33:46.240 --> 00:33:50.779
hold back. And I'm going to bring you from the

00:33:50.779 --> 00:33:53.759
north. I'm going to put you in Israel. And then

00:33:53.759 --> 00:33:57.460
once you're in Israel, you will be a witness

00:33:57.460 --> 00:34:03.240
that I am Savior and there is no other. So I

00:34:03.240 --> 00:34:06.339
did a bit of what you were doing except for I

00:34:06.339 --> 00:34:09.820
had to add repentance to mine because I had been

00:34:09.820 --> 00:34:13.480
saying for year after year living in Israel,

00:34:13.630 --> 00:34:17.949
How can God have this favorite people? But there

00:34:17.949 --> 00:34:22.530
it is in Isaiah. Why am I doing this? It's not,

00:34:22.570 --> 00:34:26.110
God says, it's not because you did everything

00:34:26.110 --> 00:34:30.130
perfectly, Israel. It's because I am faithful.

00:34:30.670 --> 00:34:35.690
I made a promise to Abraham. I'm going to fulfill

00:34:35.690 --> 00:34:39.929
my promise. And when I fulfill my promise, Israel,

00:34:40.409 --> 00:34:44.440
then you will know that I am who said, I am.

00:34:45.940 --> 00:34:49.280
So I'm backstage, I've got rivers coming out

00:34:49.280 --> 00:34:52.920
both eyes, and I'm saying, Lord, I am so sorry,

00:34:52.920 --> 00:34:56.639
I didn't get this. I don't know how I didn't

00:34:56.639 --> 00:34:59.960
get this. You know, so many of the scriptures,

00:35:00.059 --> 00:35:04.880
I think when the light comes on for God's purposes

00:35:04.880 --> 00:35:07.820
for Israel and these last days, then we, all

00:35:07.820 --> 00:35:12.059
of us, to whom that has happened, we start going

00:35:12.059 --> 00:35:14.420
through the same scriptures that we've been reading

00:35:14.420 --> 00:35:19.199
all of our lives and we say, how did I miss this?

00:35:19.440 --> 00:35:24.039
How could I possibly have missed this? It's everywhere.

00:35:24.559 --> 00:35:30.519
I think Jerusalem is mentioned 928 times in scripture.

00:35:33.340 --> 00:35:38.360
God's heart. is for that promise that he made

00:35:38.360 --> 00:35:42.900
to Abraham because he knows the rest is the promise

00:35:42.900 --> 00:35:49.219
is and through you, all the nations will be blessed.

00:35:50.300 --> 00:35:54.019
So he's being faithful to all of us. He's just

00:35:54.019 --> 00:35:58.539
using the people of Israel, the children of Abraham

00:35:58.539 --> 00:36:04.409
to do that. And to have faith, if his promise

00:36:04.409 --> 00:36:10.010
to Abraham from nearly 4 ,000 years ago now is

00:36:10.010 --> 00:36:14.630
fulfilled, then we know he's going to fulfill

00:36:14.630 --> 00:36:18.650
every promise that he's given to us. Exactly.

00:36:19.110 --> 00:36:22.349
That's why the replacement theology doesn't work.

00:36:22.750 --> 00:36:25.829
Because if God doesn't keep his promises to Israel,

00:36:26.449 --> 00:36:28.610
what makes us think he's going to keep his promises

00:36:28.610 --> 00:36:33.820
to us? Yes. You know, replacement theology actually

00:36:33.820 --> 00:36:38.400
came because of those nearly 2000 years when

00:36:38.400 --> 00:36:41.599
there was not an Israel. True. So people were

00:36:41.599 --> 00:36:43.519
naturally scratching their heads and saying,

00:36:43.719 --> 00:36:46.239
well, how do we explain this? There is no Israel.

00:36:46.760 --> 00:36:48.599
All of those things that he prophesied aren't

00:36:48.599 --> 00:36:52.699
happening. They haven't happened for eons, literally.

00:36:53.199 --> 00:36:57.139
So there must be a different explanation. That

00:36:57.139 --> 00:37:01.420
makes sense. Part of replacement theology is

00:37:01.420 --> 00:37:04.880
there's a part of it that's true because all

00:37:04.880 --> 00:37:09.480
those promises are now for us. True. But they're

00:37:09.480 --> 00:37:13.820
only for us as we're grafted in. Yes, that's

00:37:13.820 --> 00:37:17.900
it. You know, God was the original creator of

00:37:17.900 --> 00:37:22.960
the Abraham Accords. That's right. And we get

00:37:22.960 --> 00:37:25.699
grafted in because of God's Abraham Accords.

00:37:26.260 --> 00:37:30.309
Amen. That's so beautiful. Yeah. Wow. So how

00:37:30.309 --> 00:37:34.349
did that change what you did when you went back

00:37:34.349 --> 00:37:38.610
to Israel after this experience in Russia? You

00:37:38.610 --> 00:37:41.869
know, it's funny because I was doing all the

00:37:41.869 --> 00:37:45.329
right things. I was leading worship in a Hebrew

00:37:45.329 --> 00:37:49.090
-speaking messianic synagogue as well as an English

00:37:49.090 --> 00:37:53.170
-speaking church. I was working with the Christian

00:37:53.170 --> 00:37:59.039
embassy. And I was tremendously excited to help

00:37:59.039 --> 00:38:02.840
the Jewish people. But once I understood the

00:38:02.840 --> 00:38:06.360
covenant and the structure of covenant, that

00:38:06.360 --> 00:38:11.219
it's only in that covenant that all the prophecies

00:38:11.219 --> 00:38:13.980
that God has given us for the end times can be

00:38:13.980 --> 00:38:20.380
fulfilled. It just had a different meaning. So

00:38:20.380 --> 00:38:22.500
I kept doing the same things actually, but I

00:38:22.500 --> 00:38:25.400
understood what I was doing better. Yeah. Yeah.

00:38:26.199 --> 00:38:29.400
The repentance piece changes your heart. Yeah.

00:38:29.599 --> 00:38:33.099
And it's what you do with your heart that counts.

00:38:33.500 --> 00:38:35.920
You know, all the stuff that we do on the outside

00:38:35.920 --> 00:38:39.800
without our heart being engaged is less than

00:38:39.800 --> 00:38:43.239
what we're designed for. But when our heart gets

00:38:43.239 --> 00:38:48.619
engaged, you know, that's it. It gave me... such

00:38:48.619 --> 00:38:53.360
an appreciation of where we're living, the time

00:38:53.360 --> 00:38:58.239
that we're living in. And let me realize, my

00:38:58.239 --> 00:39:02.260
goodness, I'm doing this. You know, I remember

00:39:02.260 --> 00:39:06.440
one of the services at the Hebrew speaking congregation

00:39:06.440 --> 00:39:09.019
in Christ Church, which is the oldest Protestant

00:39:09.019 --> 00:39:14.960
church in the Middle East, built in 1849, which

00:39:14.960 --> 00:39:18.159
was 30 years before the first Aliyah. before

00:39:18.159 --> 00:39:22.139
the first big group of Jewish people came from

00:39:22.139 --> 00:39:24.599
the pogroms that were happening in Eastern Europe.

00:39:25.000 --> 00:39:28.719
So it was built strictly on prophecy. And in

00:39:28.719 --> 00:39:33.219
one of these services, the Lord, just before

00:39:33.219 --> 00:39:37.000
he goes to his crucifixion, says, you missed

00:39:37.000 --> 00:39:40.679
your time, Israel, and you won't see me again

00:39:40.679 --> 00:39:44.480
until you pray, Beruch haba b'shem adonai, blessed

00:39:44.480 --> 00:39:48.960
is he who comes in the name of the Lord. So it

00:39:48.960 --> 00:39:52.639
was at the end of a service, and I don't even

00:39:52.639 --> 00:39:55.500
remember what the sermon was about, but one of

00:39:55.500 --> 00:40:00.099
our elders, Roim, they're called in Hebrew, which

00:40:00.099 --> 00:40:03.820
means shepherds. So one of the elders had preached

00:40:03.820 --> 00:40:07.019
and he said, now I just want you as a congregation

00:40:07.019 --> 00:40:10.980
to come down and pray unto this. Well, immediately

00:40:10.980 --> 00:40:13.539
probably two thirds of the congregation came

00:40:13.539 --> 00:40:19.280
down. These great big guys. that are, you know,

00:40:19.340 --> 00:40:21.619
in Israel, you're in the army until you're 55,

00:40:21.780 --> 00:40:27.079
so everybody's in shape, and half guys, and they're

00:40:27.079 --> 00:40:31.659
coming down, and you don't often see Israelis

00:40:31.659 --> 00:40:36.280
cry about a lot. When it's time to cry, they

00:40:36.280 --> 00:40:38.960
really cry, and they put their all into it, but

00:40:38.960 --> 00:40:41.960
usually they've got that, I've got a strong jaw,

00:40:41.960 --> 00:40:43.920
I can deal with this, we're gonna make it through.

00:40:44.280 --> 00:40:47.340
But these guys started praying. And of course,

00:40:48.039 --> 00:40:50.199
the women and the teenagers and everybody, people

00:40:50.199 --> 00:40:52.619
are down on their knees. And I'm watching the,

00:40:52.659 --> 00:40:55.000
I'm sitting at the piano, I'm playing some music

00:40:55.000 --> 00:40:59.260
behind it. And these guys are praying. It's the

00:40:59.260 --> 00:41:13.760
time, Lord. Please come. Please come. You said

00:41:13.760 --> 00:41:17.260
when we prayed, blessed is the coming time of

00:41:17.260 --> 00:41:20.659
the Lord God, that then you would come. And so

00:41:20.659 --> 00:41:22.960
they've got tears streaming down their face.

00:41:23.360 --> 00:41:28.699
And I'm sitting in the piano and I wanted to

00:41:28.699 --> 00:41:33.030
shout because I thought, this is it. I'm in the

00:41:33.030 --> 00:41:36.010
time when it's happening and I get to be the

00:41:36.010 --> 00:41:40.869
piano player. This is awesome. Glory to God.

00:41:41.289 --> 00:41:45.369
Wow. Kind of a silly reaction, but it just was

00:41:45.369 --> 00:41:48.550
so exciting to me. Watch it happen. And there

00:41:48.550 --> 00:41:52.690
were so many living in Israel. I really never

00:41:52.690 --> 00:41:55.489
wanted to come back from Israel. The Lord just

00:41:55.489 --> 00:42:00.949
moved me and Nancy. to be part of a revival in

00:42:00.949 --> 00:42:03.849
South Florida, and then he's continued. I thought

00:42:03.849 --> 00:42:05.869
I'd be here for a few years and go back, but

00:42:05.869 --> 00:42:08.130
that's not what happened. God had a better plan.

00:42:10.070 --> 00:42:14.849
But so many things, and even as we've returned

00:42:14.849 --> 00:42:18.570
many times with the global outpouring and done

00:42:18.570 --> 00:42:25.369
ministry tours, it is so obvious that we live

00:42:25.369 --> 00:42:31.880
in the best time in history. I mean, we can either

00:42:31.880 --> 00:42:35.500
look at the news and end up scratching our heads

00:42:35.500 --> 00:42:41.199
and worrying ourselves, or we can look at a little

00:42:41.199 --> 00:42:44.780
bit of the news and then look at God's word and

00:42:44.780 --> 00:42:48.119
get in his presence. And you realize, yes, there

00:42:48.119 --> 00:42:51.340
is tremendous upheaval, but there's tremendous

00:42:51.340 --> 00:42:59.219
uphill because God is on the move. Amen. So it's

00:42:59.219 --> 00:43:03.119
a wonderful, and it's everything that the Bible

00:43:03.119 --> 00:43:06.179
says it was, that there is a great falling away,

00:43:06.460 --> 00:43:09.840
but at the same time, there's a tremendous outpouring,

00:43:10.199 --> 00:43:14.329
and we get to choose. where do I want to be?

00:43:14.489 --> 00:43:16.530
I'm going to be in the tremendous outpouring.

00:43:16.909 --> 00:43:22.090
Yes, absolutely. Absolutely. So, do you have

00:43:22.090 --> 00:43:23.969
any other thoughts that you want to share with

00:43:23.969 --> 00:43:26.510
us about what you're going to be ministering

00:43:26.510 --> 00:43:29.670
on when you minister for us on Israel night at

00:43:29.670 --> 00:43:35.110
our convention? I'm hoping to give people what

00:43:35.110 --> 00:43:41.289
they need to answer back. You know, there's an

00:43:41.289 --> 00:43:45.130
undercurrent even among conservative Christians

00:43:45.130 --> 00:43:49.349
now. Funneled by some people with podcasts that

00:43:49.349 --> 00:43:54.130
are extremely anti -Semitic. Many of whom say

00:43:54.130 --> 00:43:57.409
they're Christian, but they're espousing views

00:43:57.409 --> 00:44:01.650
that are nowhere near Christian. One of them

00:44:01.650 --> 00:44:04.989
famously has said that the Christian Zionists

00:44:04.989 --> 00:44:07.349
bother him that they're the things that bother

00:44:07.349 --> 00:44:12.019
him most in the earth. And I thought, there are

00:44:12.019 --> 00:44:14.539
so many things to bother you on the earth, really,

00:44:14.639 --> 00:44:19.099
the Christian Zionists? But I'm going to point

00:44:19.099 --> 00:44:21.900
out in scripture, and I'm working on this right

00:44:21.900 --> 00:44:26.300
now, but there are many instances in scripture

00:44:26.300 --> 00:44:30.199
where the two most prophesied things in the Bible

00:44:30.199 --> 00:44:32.760
are the coming of the Messiah and the physical

00:44:32.760 --> 00:44:37.230
restoration of Zion. Wow. And many times those

00:44:37.230 --> 00:44:42.250
prophecies come exactly together. And for instance,

00:44:42.829 --> 00:44:48.750
Isaiah 11, Isaiah 11, we're all familiar with,

00:44:49.730 --> 00:44:51.690
and it says, there's a shoot that will spring

00:44:51.690 --> 00:44:54.610
forth from the stem of Jesse, and a branch from

00:44:54.610 --> 00:44:57.269
its roots will bear fruit, and the spirit of

00:44:57.269 --> 00:45:00.190
the Lord will rest upon him. Righteousness will

00:45:00.190 --> 00:45:02.809
be the belt about his loins, and faithfulness

00:45:02.809 --> 00:45:06.300
the belt about his waist. But then just a few

00:45:06.300 --> 00:45:12.119
verses down in verse 11 it says, and then when

00:45:12.119 --> 00:45:15.760
he comes, it will happen in that day that the

00:45:15.760 --> 00:45:19.320
Lord will again recover the second time with

00:45:19.320 --> 00:45:22.340
his hand the remnant of his people who will remain.

00:45:28.360 --> 00:45:32.639
and from the coastlands of the sea. Sometimes

00:45:32.639 --> 00:45:35.579
that's translated islands, but it actually can

00:45:35.579 --> 00:45:40.219
mean coastlands or whole nations. So to Isaiah

00:45:40.219 --> 00:45:43.579
prophesying in Israel. The coastlands of the

00:45:43.579 --> 00:45:46.659
sea were everywhere else because he'd never been

00:45:46.659 --> 00:45:50.360
to any of those places. And he will lift up a

00:45:50.360 --> 00:45:52.760
standard for the nations and will assemble the

00:45:52.760 --> 00:45:55.619
banished ones of Israel and will gather the dispersed

00:45:55.619 --> 00:45:58.880
of Judah from the four corners of the earth.

00:45:59.340 --> 00:46:02.659
The prophecy comes together and that happens

00:46:02.659 --> 00:46:06.880
over and over and over again in scripture. So

00:46:06.880 --> 00:46:12.260
I'm hoping to give people some meat. that they

00:46:12.260 --> 00:46:15.480
can answer back, not that I think that we need

00:46:15.480 --> 00:46:18.900
to be in large confrontations. We don't, because

00:46:18.900 --> 00:46:22.139
we know the truth. But I think there are many

00:46:22.139 --> 00:46:25.880
people, obviously a lot of the people who are

00:46:25.880 --> 00:46:28.719
running the podcasts, who I think most of us

00:46:28.719 --> 00:46:32.599
know some of the names, that believe that they're

00:46:32.599 --> 00:46:34.980
Christians, but they obviously don't read the

00:46:34.980 --> 00:46:38.219
Bible. Right, exactly. Or they read it with a

00:46:38.219 --> 00:46:42.030
worldview that is askew. Like, and I understand

00:46:42.030 --> 00:46:46.550
them. I grew up in church, I moved to Israel

00:46:46.550 --> 00:46:50.369
with a poor understanding of what God had said

00:46:50.369 --> 00:46:53.969
about what he was gonna do. I just saw the outpouring

00:46:53.969 --> 00:46:59.289
and I didn't see it tied. I fully believe, and

00:46:59.289 --> 00:47:02.469
I'm gonna give some evidence of this, I believe

00:47:02.469 --> 00:47:09.059
that in 1967, times changed. We moved into a

00:47:09.059 --> 00:47:13.559
completely new era. And Derek Prince believed

00:47:13.559 --> 00:47:18.019
this, John Hagee believes this. I believe that

00:47:18.019 --> 00:47:23.380
in 1967, on June 7th in 1967, when Jerusalem

00:47:23.380 --> 00:47:26.179
was returned into the hands of the Jewish people,

00:47:26.599 --> 00:47:31.440
we moved from the time of the nations, the time

00:47:31.440 --> 00:47:36.639
of the Gentiles, we moved, that time became fulfilled.

00:47:36.880 --> 00:47:41.940
and we moved into the next fulfillment of all

00:47:41.940 --> 00:47:45.179
things. Which is not to say that God was through

00:47:45.179 --> 00:47:47.739
with the nations at that point, it's to say,

00:47:48.000 --> 00:47:51.880
no, we moved from just outpouring in the nations

00:47:51.880 --> 00:47:55.559
to fulfillment of all things and life from the

00:47:55.559 --> 00:48:02.360
dead. I can prove, and the last time I spoke

00:48:02.360 --> 00:48:06.010
on Israel, I think I spent a lot of time. proving

00:48:06.010 --> 00:48:08.170
about the outpouring that has happened since

00:48:08.170 --> 00:48:12.210
1967, so I won't do that again. But I can just

00:48:12.210 --> 00:48:16.750
give you high points of there's been tremendous

00:48:16.750 --> 00:48:19.849
exponential outpouring among not only Jewish

00:48:19.849 --> 00:48:23.530
people, but all over the earth since that time

00:48:23.530 --> 00:48:27.010
in history. I'll say it again, we live in the

00:48:27.010 --> 00:48:31.449
greatest time in history. Yes, absolutely, and

00:48:31.449 --> 00:48:35.869
I will add a link to that message that you preached

00:48:35.869 --> 00:48:39.070
What is it about about three years ago? We'll

00:48:39.070 --> 00:48:41.829
put that in there so people can can get a sense

00:48:41.829 --> 00:48:44.389
of Get a sense of what a great preacher you are

00:48:44.389 --> 00:48:47.929
for one thing and and your passion for the Lord

00:48:47.929 --> 00:48:51.289
and your passion for the for Israel But to give

00:48:51.289 --> 00:48:54.050
people an idea a foundation that you're gonna

00:48:54.050 --> 00:48:58.389
build on in this in this convention great I think

00:48:58.389 --> 00:49:02.369
it's gonna be Amazing. Absolutely amazing. And

00:49:02.369 --> 00:49:05.550
I just want you to know I really appreciate you,

00:49:05.710 --> 00:49:10.409
Claren, and appreciate the depth of your relationship

00:49:10.409 --> 00:49:13.789
with the Lord that gives you the inspiration,

00:49:13.989 --> 00:49:17.710
that gives you the anointing in worship and in

00:49:17.710 --> 00:49:21.860
the Word. Some people are all about worship and

00:49:21.860 --> 00:49:24.719
they don't have much of the word and some people

00:49:24.719 --> 00:49:26.440
are all about the word and they don't have much

00:49:26.440 --> 00:49:29.300
in the way of worship. And it's kind of, to me,

00:49:29.719 --> 00:49:31.820
it would be kind of like being in a rowboat.

00:49:32.039 --> 00:49:35.239
and you only have one oar. You're going to go

00:49:35.239 --> 00:49:37.239
in circles. You're not going to get very far.

00:49:37.519 --> 00:49:41.800
But when you have both oars, you can pull and

00:49:41.800 --> 00:49:45.119
you can go somewhere because you've got anointing

00:49:45.119 --> 00:49:50.320
on both your worship and your Bible. And you

00:49:50.320 --> 00:49:53.940
can go places because you've got that balance

00:49:53.940 --> 00:49:58.619
of the two that is life -giving. And so I appreciate

00:49:58.619 --> 00:50:01.239
that about you. And I'm saying that for the sake

00:50:01.239 --> 00:50:03.920
of our viewers and our listeners, that, you know,

00:50:03.920 --> 00:50:08.440
you need to be at this convention and get a grasp

00:50:08.440 --> 00:50:10.659
on some of the things that you need to get a

00:50:10.659 --> 00:50:14.000
grasp on. How many of us don't have the fullness

00:50:14.000 --> 00:50:17.159
of understanding? And the thing besides that

00:50:17.159 --> 00:50:20.400
is, you know, if I can just draw on Dean Braxton,

00:50:20.480 --> 00:50:23.340
he's gonna be one of our speakers too. The experience

00:50:23.340 --> 00:50:27.320
that he had in heaven, like he would look at

00:50:27.320 --> 00:50:30.719
the Lord, And he would just be overwhelmed with

00:50:30.719 --> 00:50:34.820
the glory and the love and the joy and the peace

00:50:34.820 --> 00:50:36.679
and all of that. And then he'd look again and

00:50:36.679 --> 00:50:40.780
it was more so. And then he'd just get overwhelmed

00:50:40.780 --> 00:50:43.320
and he'd look again and it was more so. And he

00:50:43.320 --> 00:50:46.860
said, you're going from glory to glory. And it's

00:50:46.860 --> 00:50:48.420
not like there was anything wrong with the glory

00:50:48.420 --> 00:50:51.920
you had before. It's just there's an increase.

00:50:52.360 --> 00:50:55.119
And that's what he's doing in these days. He's

00:50:55.119 --> 00:50:58.059
trying to increase us. So we're excited about

00:50:58.059 --> 00:51:01.760
what God is going to do and how He's going to

00:51:01.760 --> 00:51:05.840
do it. There's a story that you tell that you

00:51:05.840 --> 00:51:08.920
may have told it on the podcast before, but you've

00:51:08.920 --> 00:51:10.840
told it a number of times, and I'd love for you

00:51:10.840 --> 00:51:14.780
to tell it again about how you were in Christ's

00:51:14.780 --> 00:51:18.820
church when this woman came in, a Jewish woman,

00:51:18.860 --> 00:51:21.920
and she said, what's this place? Can you tell

00:51:21.920 --> 00:51:24.820
us that story? You're trying to get me to cry.

00:51:25.070 --> 00:51:33.329
Oh, not really. Yes, this happened actually after

00:51:33.329 --> 00:51:36.829
I'd been on that trip to the Soviet Union. Then

00:51:36.829 --> 00:51:44.690
you understood. Yes, I understood. And she, she's

00:51:44.690 --> 00:51:50.650
a big, beautiful, she looked very Slavic and

00:51:50.650 --> 00:51:53.900
she walked in the front door. And lots of people

00:51:53.900 --> 00:51:57.599
come to Christ Church as a tourist spot because

00:51:57.599 --> 00:52:00.019
it is the oldest Protestant church in the Middle

00:52:00.019 --> 00:52:05.360
East. So she looks around and she says, Mudley,

00:52:06.320 --> 00:52:10.619
what is this? And I said, the kinesia. And she's,

00:52:10.760 --> 00:52:15.539
it's a church. And she said, no, it can't be.

00:52:15.880 --> 00:52:20.429
Look, everything's in Hebrew. And I said, Yes,

00:52:20.429 --> 00:52:25.989
but it is a church. And she said, no, it's shut.

00:52:26.489 --> 00:52:28.489
And she starts explaining to me why it can't

00:52:28.489 --> 00:52:31.869
be a church. I finally said, look, I go here.

00:52:32.030 --> 00:52:37.710
It's a church. So she looks surprised and she

00:52:37.710 --> 00:52:42.130
looks around because the church was built for

00:52:42.130 --> 00:52:46.289
the Jewish people. So it was built by a consortium

00:52:46.289 --> 00:52:50.480
of British and German believers. who all believed

00:52:50.480 --> 00:52:53.679
prophecy. But because they thought that the Jewish

00:52:53.679 --> 00:52:56.199
people were going to come back according to the

00:52:56.199 --> 00:52:58.360
word of God, they said, well, let's make this

00:52:58.360 --> 00:53:01.980
building, well, they'll be at home. So the Ten

00:53:01.980 --> 00:53:05.559
Commandments are all in Hebrew. It's the apostles'

00:53:05.960 --> 00:53:10.440
creed, but it's all in Hebrew. Every window,

00:53:10.519 --> 00:53:12.739
there aren't many stained glass windows, but

00:53:12.739 --> 00:53:15.760
every window that is stained glass has some scripture

00:53:15.760 --> 00:53:20.260
in Hebrew. And so she, comes over to my little

00:53:20.260 --> 00:53:23.019
guide desk and she pulls up a chair and she says,

00:53:23.159 --> 00:53:26.840
well, maybe you can explain to me something that's

00:53:26.840 --> 00:53:33.159
happened. And she leaned in and she said, you

00:53:33.159 --> 00:53:36.739
know, as I was growing up in the Soviet Union,

00:53:37.400 --> 00:53:40.380
I knew I was Jewish, but I was always taught

00:53:40.380 --> 00:53:44.920
that there was nothing there. That the only thing

00:53:44.920 --> 00:53:49.690
that I had was myself and communism. and trusting

00:53:49.690 --> 00:53:54.690
in the community. But she said, I always knew

00:53:54.690 --> 00:53:59.309
there was something. And so as a child, I would

00:53:59.309 --> 00:54:02.550
always pray to the something when I needed help.

00:54:02.750 --> 00:54:06.389
I wouldn't tell my parents, but I just would

00:54:06.389 --> 00:54:10.150
pray to the something. And she said, in hard

00:54:10.150 --> 00:54:16.969
times, I always felt a force. that was pushing

00:54:16.969 --> 00:54:20.849
me forward, that was a strength that I could

00:54:20.849 --> 00:54:25.590
lean on. And then she said as I decided to make

00:54:25.590 --> 00:54:28.989
aliyah, as I decided to come to Israel, the government

00:54:28.989 --> 00:54:32.650
made it very difficult for me to come. And there

00:54:32.650 --> 00:54:35.449
were many times there were so many offices I

00:54:35.449 --> 00:54:37.690
had to go to and papers I had to fill out and

00:54:37.690 --> 00:54:40.449
then they weren't happy with what I did and it

00:54:40.449 --> 00:54:43.949
was just difficult and I wanted to quit. but

00:54:43.949 --> 00:54:47.949
I felt this same something pushing me forward.

00:54:49.269 --> 00:54:53.750
And she said, now that I'm in Israel, it's difficult

00:54:53.750 --> 00:54:57.309
for me. I don't speak Hebrew very well. I can't

00:54:57.309 --> 00:55:02.670
find a job. And she was another person who was

00:55:02.670 --> 00:55:05.829
trained. She had a medical degree, as I remember,

00:55:06.409 --> 00:55:10.460
some very... She'd spent a lot of years studying,

00:55:10.539 --> 00:55:12.760
but it didn't translate when she got to Israel.

00:55:12.780 --> 00:55:15.460
She couldn't get certified. So she wasn't going

00:55:15.460 --> 00:55:18.480
to be able to get that as a job. And she was

00:55:18.480 --> 00:55:21.679
not a young woman. So it was a huge life change.

00:55:21.699 --> 00:55:24.980
She was probably in her fifties, maybe. And she

00:55:24.980 --> 00:55:28.099
said, it's again been very difficult. And I've

00:55:28.099 --> 00:55:30.579
thought, you know, if I went back to the Soviet

00:55:30.579 --> 00:55:34.119
Union, I have my life there. It's not what I

00:55:34.119 --> 00:55:38.030
wanted, but it's better than it used to be. And

00:55:38.030 --> 00:55:42.989
yet, when I want to decide to go back, this something

00:55:42.989 --> 00:55:46.389
continues to push me forward. I can't go back.

00:55:46.409 --> 00:55:49.449
It wants me to stay here. And then she leaned

00:55:49.449 --> 00:55:52.130
in further and she said, can you tell me what

00:55:52.130 --> 00:55:58.449
that something is? And so I said, yes, I can.

00:55:58.869 --> 00:56:01.750
And I've forgotten what scripture I read. It

00:56:01.750 --> 00:56:05.010
was probably Isaiah 43 again, amongst others,

00:56:05.110 --> 00:56:09.900
and Isaiah 11. And then she thanked me, we prayed

00:56:09.900 --> 00:56:12.739
together. I prayed for the Lord to bless her

00:56:12.739 --> 00:56:16.739
and show her the path that he was opening up

00:56:16.739 --> 00:56:19.739
in front of her. I'm sure, I quoted Proverbs

00:56:19.739 --> 00:56:24.159
3, that as she acknowledged him in all her ways,

00:56:24.320 --> 00:56:26.860
now that she knew what the something was, that

00:56:26.860 --> 00:56:29.500
he would make the path straight in front of her.

00:56:29.719 --> 00:56:34.239
And in Hebrew, that straight is yesha. And it

00:56:34.239 --> 00:56:37.579
means the path for you that's approved, that

00:56:37.579 --> 00:56:42.199
is a just path, that is the chosen path of God.

00:56:42.679 --> 00:56:47.079
And one of the meanings is the path that is smoothed

00:56:47.079 --> 00:56:51.360
out in front of you. Wow. Beautiful. Beautiful,

00:56:51.539 --> 00:56:54.199
yeah. So we prayed and she thanked me and then

00:56:54.199 --> 00:56:58.960
I never saw her again. But I know that the Holy

00:56:58.960 --> 00:57:03.289
Spirit continued to speak to her. Amen. And I

00:57:03.289 --> 00:57:07.730
am sure once she heard, I mean, how can you hear

00:57:07.730 --> 00:57:11.570
those verses and not say, you know, I need to

00:57:11.570 --> 00:57:14.190
go back and reread that book. There's something

00:57:14.190 --> 00:57:18.170
there that I need. That's it. That's it. And

00:57:18.170 --> 00:57:21.130
most people, actually, it was wonderful when

00:57:21.130 --> 00:57:25.989
people began to come from the Soviet Union, from

00:57:25.989 --> 00:57:29.269
all those various countries. They were trained

00:57:29.269 --> 00:57:33.650
in nothing. So they didn't have barriers put

00:57:33.650 --> 00:57:38.269
up. You know, many people have been taught, you

00:57:38.269 --> 00:57:41.090
have to either be really orthodox, you have to

00:57:41.090 --> 00:57:44.090
follow all 613 commandments, and if you don't,

00:57:44.210 --> 00:57:46.909
then forget it. You need to wear a certain scarf

00:57:46.909 --> 00:57:49.150
on your head, or some people you need to wear

00:57:49.150 --> 00:57:52.110
a wig on your head, you need to dress in certain

00:57:52.110 --> 00:57:54.309
clothes on certain days, and pray certain prayers

00:57:54.309 --> 00:57:55.869
when you get up, and certain prayers when you

00:57:55.869 --> 00:57:58.230
go to, you know, it goes on and on and on. And

00:57:58.230 --> 00:58:01.559
a lot of people, Say, well, I can't do that.

00:58:01.800 --> 00:58:05.139
That's not who I am. But a lot of people who

00:58:05.139 --> 00:58:08.340
will tell you and Israel that they're not religious,

00:58:09.019 --> 00:58:11.460
when you really start talking to them, they pray.

00:58:12.119 --> 00:58:16.059
They fast on Yom Kippur. They love the Lord.

00:58:16.199 --> 00:58:19.239
They've just been trained. It's what Jesus said

00:58:19.239 --> 00:58:23.760
to the Pharisees in Matthew 23. You put such

00:58:23.760 --> 00:58:26.519
a heavy load on these people, they can't carry

00:58:26.519 --> 00:58:30.380
it. So then they will say, okay, I can't carry

00:58:30.380 --> 00:58:32.639
what you're giving me. I can't be religious,

00:58:32.860 --> 00:58:36.820
but they still love the Lord. So when they find

00:58:36.820 --> 00:58:44.039
out about the truth of God sent himself to be

00:58:44.039 --> 00:58:47.739
that savior from Isaiah 43, for whom there's

00:58:47.739 --> 00:58:52.460
never been another savior, it's just me. And

00:58:52.460 --> 00:58:56.849
they've already lived it. So many of them, whether

00:58:56.849 --> 00:59:01.510
they came in 48 or they came in 73 or 67 or before

00:59:01.510 --> 00:59:05.610
48, they came from somewhere else, most of them.

00:59:06.670 --> 00:59:10.150
Even if they came in 1600, they came from somewhere.

00:59:10.809 --> 00:59:13.929
So they know, I have been brought back from the

00:59:13.929 --> 00:59:16.030
east and the west and the north and the south,

00:59:16.369 --> 00:59:19.750
and here I am in God's land and look at this,

00:59:19.869 --> 00:59:23.429
it shouldn't even exist. how can people be speaking

00:59:23.429 --> 00:59:26.610
this language that was only used for reading

00:59:26.610 --> 00:59:29.250
the Bible and most people didn't understand it,

00:59:29.449 --> 00:59:32.949
themselves included. You know, all of them went

00:59:32.949 --> 00:59:36.389
through a bat mitzvah or a bar mitzvah and they

00:59:36.389 --> 00:59:38.489
read their little passage, but most of them didn't

00:59:38.489 --> 00:59:41.449
know what they were reading. They just had a

00:59:41.449 --> 00:59:44.409
translation in their language, but they couldn't

00:59:44.409 --> 00:59:46.530
begin. If you went beyond that verse that they

00:59:46.530 --> 00:59:49.090
memorized for their bar mitzvah, they can't read.

00:59:49.619 --> 00:59:52.800
Right. So, but now they're going to come and

00:59:52.800 --> 00:59:54.820
there's government language schools teaching

00:59:54.820 --> 00:59:57.000
you so you can learn the quick and easy version

00:59:57.000 --> 01:00:00.380
of Hebrew. You know, if you put in a window in

01:00:00.380 --> 01:00:02.699
your house or you buy a new mixer and you read

01:00:02.699 --> 01:00:04.900
the instructions, you will be reading Hebrew.

01:00:06.019 --> 01:00:09.719
Right. Yeah. It's a miracle and they know they're

01:00:09.719 --> 01:00:12.199
living in a miracle. So how did this miracle

01:00:12.199 --> 01:00:17.679
happen? Yes. Yes. I've probably told you the

01:00:17.679 --> 01:00:21.519
story, but in one of the attacks from Hamas.

01:00:22.300 --> 01:00:26.920
There was a guy in the army who was situated

01:00:26.920 --> 01:00:33.380
in the defense center in Tel Aviv. And as usual,

01:00:33.400 --> 01:00:37.320
most of the rockets were aimed at Tel Aviv. So

01:00:37.320 --> 01:00:41.719
he's watching this rocket being shot. It's a

01:00:41.719 --> 01:00:44.739
huge rocket. It's gonna do tremendous destruction.

01:00:47.079 --> 01:00:51.119
He's watching it come directly for a center in

01:00:51.119 --> 01:00:55.400
Tel Aviv. And he, as his watching says, now he's

01:00:55.400 --> 01:01:00.420
secular, but he says, God, no. And he watches

01:01:00.420 --> 01:01:05.019
the rocket take a left turn and go out into the

01:01:05.019 --> 01:01:09.860
Mediterranean. And he made the news because when

01:01:09.860 --> 01:01:13.320
they asked him about the attack, he said, I saw

01:01:13.320 --> 01:01:16.300
a miracle. I can tell you a miracle happened.

01:01:17.720 --> 01:01:21.019
But it was the God that he said he wasn't religious

01:01:21.019 --> 01:01:26.360
for. The answer was still, God, no. I don't know

01:01:26.360 --> 01:01:28.900
if you've read the stories that the people who

01:01:28.900 --> 01:01:33.119
were incarcerated in the tunnels, and there have

01:01:33.119 --> 01:01:37.599
been many stories that I've read shared that

01:01:37.599 --> 01:01:42.059
people who did not believe in God, many of them

01:01:42.059 --> 01:01:46.300
even beyond, they were really secular. Think

01:01:46.300 --> 01:01:48.480
about fasting on Yom Kippur. They didn't think

01:01:48.480 --> 01:01:50.920
about anything. They were just a secular Israeli.

01:01:51.480 --> 01:01:55.360
But in that tunnel, in the dark with no food,

01:01:55.679 --> 01:01:59.000
they began to feel the presence of God. Wow.

01:01:59.139 --> 01:02:01.900
It's true. Because he's faithful. At first they

01:02:01.900 --> 01:02:05.159
didn't even know what they were feeling. That's

01:02:05.159 --> 01:02:08.639
right. And then gradually, you know, he would

01:02:08.639 --> 01:02:11.199
give them, most of them, he gave them a knowing,

01:02:12.079 --> 01:02:16.070
it's okay, I'm here with you. Everything is going

01:02:16.070 --> 01:02:20.030
to be okay. Wow. Glory to God. And then they

01:02:20.030 --> 01:02:24.090
lived that. They walked out of the tunnel and

01:02:24.090 --> 01:02:27.429
they knew that God had spoken to them and said,

01:02:28.090 --> 01:02:32.269
it's going to be okay. It's true. It's true.

01:02:32.630 --> 01:02:37.750
Wow. Well, Claren, to close now, would you pray

01:02:37.750 --> 01:02:41.250
for our listeners and our viewers? Certainly.

01:02:42.510 --> 01:02:47.619
Lord, we... Thank you for the times that you

01:02:47.619 --> 01:02:53.579
have allowed us to be called to live and be a

01:02:53.579 --> 01:02:56.719
light in. Lord, for every one of us listening

01:02:56.719 --> 01:03:00.360
to this podcast, no matter when we see it or

01:03:00.360 --> 01:03:03.619
hear it, what we've been doing or what we plan

01:03:03.619 --> 01:03:09.920
to do, you have a plan that is so much greater

01:03:09.920 --> 01:03:14.219
than anything we can imagine. And you've already

01:03:14.219 --> 01:03:18.260
told us my ways are higher than yours. My thoughts

01:03:18.260 --> 01:03:21.780
are higher. And you spoke to Israel and Isaiah

01:03:21.780 --> 01:03:25.059
40 and said, do you not know, have you not heard

01:03:25.059 --> 01:03:28.940
that God, the creator of the ends of the earth,

01:03:29.079 --> 01:03:33.780
does not grow weary, neither tired, but he gives

01:03:33.780 --> 01:03:37.800
strength to the weary. And Lord, we thank you

01:03:37.800 --> 01:03:43.309
for giving us your vision. Lord, I ask that those

01:03:43.309 --> 01:03:46.869
listening to this podcast, as you would have

01:03:46.869 --> 01:03:52.010
them come to the convention, or even if they

01:03:52.010 --> 01:03:56.909
can't come, that you would just speak to their

01:03:56.909 --> 01:04:03.309
hearts even now and renew our vision. Give us

01:04:03.309 --> 01:04:08.880
your vision for what you'd have us do. Lord,

01:04:10.119 --> 01:04:14.219
we ask that you would do miracles right before

01:04:14.219 --> 01:04:19.719
our eyes. You are Yehovah Yirei. You're the God

01:04:19.719 --> 01:04:24.719
who sees the need and you provide for the need

01:04:24.719 --> 01:04:29.579
even as you see it. Even before we see it, you

01:04:29.579 --> 01:04:34.480
see it. You're Yehovah Shema. You're the God

01:04:34.480 --> 01:04:39.670
who's always there. And you're Adonai Roe. You're

01:04:39.670 --> 01:04:44.309
our good shepherd. Who longs, Isaiah 30 says,

01:04:44.389 --> 01:04:48.690
you long to be gracious to us. You wait in the

01:04:48.690 --> 01:04:53.829
heavens to be compassionate to us. You're a God

01:04:53.829 --> 01:04:57.949
of justice. And then your word says, how blessed

01:04:57.949 --> 01:05:04.250
are we who long for you. Psalm 33 says, how great

01:05:04.250 --> 01:05:08.050
is your goodness. which you've stored up for

01:05:08.050 --> 01:05:11.670
us who fear you, which you've worked out for

01:05:11.670 --> 01:05:15.570
us who take refuge in you. You hide us in the

01:05:15.570 --> 01:05:20.909
secret place of your presence. So Lord, as we're

01:05:20.909 --> 01:05:25.110
in your presence right now, we just do what Romans

01:05:25.110 --> 01:05:28.889
12, one and two says. Once again, Lord, we offer

01:05:28.889 --> 01:05:34.340
ourselves as a living sacrifice. We choose not

01:05:34.340 --> 01:05:39.099
to be conformed to this world, but we open ourselves

01:05:39.099 --> 01:05:43.360
up and we say, yes, Holy Spirit, transform me

01:05:43.360 --> 01:05:48.219
by the renewing of my mind. So that I can prove

01:05:48.219 --> 01:05:52.880
how good your will is, how acceptable and how

01:05:52.880 --> 01:05:57.739
much that word is, it's perfecting me, teleos.

01:05:58.039 --> 01:06:00.619
not just that it's the perfect will of God, but

01:06:00.619 --> 01:06:04.960
it's the will that is perfecting us. We say,

01:06:05.019 --> 01:06:09.199
Lord, increase our vision, transform our thinking,

01:06:10.699 --> 01:06:16.199
perfect us, bring us in to that wonderful design

01:06:16.199 --> 01:06:20.000
that you originally had in mind when we were

01:06:20.000 --> 01:06:23.579
formed together in our mother's womb. Yes, Lord.

01:06:27.899 --> 01:06:34.280
Do that new thing in this time, Lord. Something

01:06:34.280 --> 01:06:47.719
that's far better than what I've thought. Work

01:06:47.719 --> 01:06:51.309
mightily. And Lord, we thank you that we know

01:06:51.309 --> 01:06:54.849
you will do that. You've always done it in every

01:06:54.849 --> 01:06:59.010
one of these gatherings that we've had. So we

01:06:59.010 --> 01:07:04.849
look forward, Lord, last year was awesome. So

01:07:04.849 --> 01:07:07.389
many of the times last year as we watched the

01:07:07.389 --> 01:07:10.010
nations come together to worship, as we listened

01:07:10.010 --> 01:07:13.909
to Dean Braxton share his wonderful revelations

01:07:13.909 --> 01:07:17.570
that he received, marvelous, marvelous things

01:07:17.570 --> 01:07:21.090
that that I had never thought of as always. Every

01:07:21.090 --> 01:07:23.010
time he opens his mouth, he says something I

01:07:23.010 --> 01:07:27.570
haven't thought of. Lord, we thank you for the

01:07:27.570 --> 01:07:30.469
blessing that you've allowed us to come together.

01:07:30.929 --> 01:07:34.309
And we just pray into those meetings, now months

01:07:34.309 --> 01:07:39.789
before they happen, mashu hadash, that new thing

01:07:39.789 --> 01:07:43.769
for this kairos moment. Amen. And we thank you

01:07:43.769 --> 01:07:46.289
for doing it. And Lord, we thank you for doing

01:07:46.289 --> 01:07:50.469
that today. Whenever today is, whenever whoever

01:07:50.469 --> 01:07:53.309
is listening to this, Lord, everything that they

01:07:53.309 --> 01:07:56.889
need right now. Yes Lord. I ask Lord that you

01:07:56.889 --> 01:08:01.869
would speak to hearts. Speak to our spirit even

01:08:01.869 --> 01:08:06.070
beyond our heart. Yes Lord. And just let us know

01:08:06.070 --> 01:08:10.789
like you let those captives know in the dark,

01:08:10.869 --> 01:08:15.929
in the tunnel, I'm right here. Yes. It's gonna

01:08:15.929 --> 01:08:20.159
be okay. Yes. Just follow me. Just acknowledge

01:08:20.159 --> 01:08:25.439
me in all of your ways. And I right now, I know

01:08:25.439 --> 01:08:29.119
this is true Lord, you're saying I right now

01:08:29.119 --> 01:08:33.760
am smoothing out the path. I'm making it Yishal

01:08:33.760 --> 01:08:36.640
in front of you. Thank you. All you have to do

01:08:36.640 --> 01:08:40.359
is acknowledge me. All you have to do is ask.

01:08:41.180 --> 01:08:45.310
Yes Lord, thank you Jesus. So Lord, we Ask before

01:08:45.310 --> 01:08:48.949
we even know what to ask for. You just do what

01:08:48.949 --> 01:08:52.329
you want to do. Also have that path in front

01:08:52.329 --> 01:08:56.270
of us that's your path and we'll say, Baruch

01:08:56.270 --> 01:09:01.029
Chabah. Thank you, Lord God, for all of your

01:09:01.029 --> 01:09:05.869
many, many wonderful paths that you're creating

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