Lillian DeLeon: Guided by God Every Step

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Hey friends, welcome to Her God Story, where

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you'll always hear a story to inspire and encourage

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your walk with the Lord. I'm your host, Jodie

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Chiricosta, ministry leader at Somebody Cares

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America and international author and traveler

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on this wonderful journey with Jesus. I am so

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putting God's faithfulness into action. And that

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really connects with what we're talking about

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today, because this episode is a powerful reminder

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that God is not only present with us, He is faithful.

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He's faithful to protect, faithful to provide.

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faithful to guide clearly, personally, consistently

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through every season of life. Amy Carmichael,

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who devoted her life to rescuing vulnerable children

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as a missionary in India, had a deep trust in

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God's faithfulness and obeyed his call with unwavering

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devotion. Again and again, she saw God work miraculously,

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providing resources, sending helpers, and even

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protecting them in times of danger. She's got

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a great story. Look her up. But she once said

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of God, blessed are those who trust in him. They

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shall not be disappointed. Have you ever felt

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hesitant about trusting God with something? Have

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you wondered if he would truly come through for

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you? I know I have. There have been moments in

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my life when I felt that tension. But like Amy,

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I have never been disappointed by God. Each time

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he proved himself faithful. And as I've learned

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to trust Him more and more, I've found my life

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becoming steadier, richer, and I'm more deeply

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at peace. Over time, I've come to see that Jeremiah

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17, 7, and 8 is not just a promise, it's a reality.

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The NIV reads, But blessed is the one who trusts

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in the Lord, whose confidence is in Him. They

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will be like a tree planted by the water. It

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has no worries in a year of drought and never

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fails to bear fruit. My guest today, Lillian

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DeLeon, has experienced that same kind of faithfulness.

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Lillian is a certified massage therapist, a gifted

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sign language translator, a joyful and devoted

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pastor's wife, and a deeply grateful mother of

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two beautiful daughters. But beyond all of those

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roles, what stands out most is the unmistakable

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thread of God's faithfulness woven throughout

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her life. From her earliest years to where she

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stands today, Lillian has experienced God's protection

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in difficult moments, his provision in times

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of need, and his clear personal guidance in ways

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that leave no doubt it was the Lord leading her.

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Her story is not just about what she has done,

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but about what God has done. And as you listen

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today, I hope you'll begin to recognize his faithfulness

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in your life as well. Lillian, I'm so glad you're

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here. Welcome to Her God Story. Thank you. I

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feel honored to be here. Well, Lillian, to begin,

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would you share a little about your early years

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and how you first came to know Jesus in a personal

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way? Well, I grew up as a preacher's kid in Texas

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with my parents, both my older brother and two

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younger sisters. I was a very obedient child

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and I was a good follower of Jesus, though I

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made decisions to follow him at a very young

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age of seven. I loved learning about His Word,

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and by the time I was 13 and involved in the

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missionettes, I was also helping and teaching

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other young girls the Word of God. But being

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a PK was not easy. I experienced difficulties

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as well growing up in the church, as many of

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us have experienced some hurts even within the

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church and how they treated my parents. But I

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saw how they handled the situation with grace,

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much forgiveness, and always through prayer in

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those difficult times. Also, we were very musically

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inclined. Both my parents sang. My mom was a

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songwriter. And all four of our children, us,

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we also sang along with them. I was about 11

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or 12 years of age when my dad was teaching in

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Bible school at the time. And one of his students

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was teaching sign language. Both my siblings

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and I enjoyed it and sang along in the church

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children's choir signing, but nothing came of

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it after that. So when it was time for you to

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graduate from high school, you had to decide

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what you're going to do next. So as you laid

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it before the Lord, he started directing your

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steps. Take us on that journey. Well, soon after

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I finished, well, I was... preparing, actually,

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to decide what to do, the Lord brought to my

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memory those years when I was 11 and 12, learning

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the sign language. And I remembered everything.

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I was amazed by that. I asked my siblings if

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they remember anything, and they couldn't give

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me much. So I pursued it to take classes regarding

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to become an interpreter for the deaf. And in

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the midst of that, my professors were so impressed,

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I guess, that they wanted to set up a four -year

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scholarship for me to be an interpreter there

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in El Paso. However, God had other plans. He

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decided to move them out or transfer them out

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of the city, even the state. That was all God.

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So that was what was happening. And in the midst

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of that, I sensed God's calling me to go to Bible

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school. My brother had gone before me, a year

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before me. I went soon after. My sister joined

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us even a half a semester after that. We were

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all very involved in choir and things like that.

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In my first year of Bible school, there were

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three impactful experiences. God made it clear

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through prayer, it was always through prayer,

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that I was going to be a pastor's wife. The second

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experience was that people laid hands on me and

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anointed my hands, that my hands were going to

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be a large part of my ministry. And the third,

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it was when I met a third -year student who soon

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became my friend. She was in a very terrible

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car accident. A semi -truck hit her car directly,

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and it pushed all her internal organs, injury.

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It's just a miracle that she survived. And through

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much prayer and, oh, my goodness, so much things

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that were going on, she was able to survive.

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But she came back. God healed her. She came back

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in my third year, and that's when she needed

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physical therapy. And for whatever reason, God

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into her, she asked me to massage her. And I

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told her, I don't know how. And she said, no,

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I'll teach you. I'll teach you. And I continued

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to massage her and God used that in my life as

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well. So that was very interesting. I helped

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her with that. And I also mentioned how people

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were just. wanting to be ministered in that way.

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You know how school can be so stressful. So that

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was very good. Yeah. Sitting at a desk. We all

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want it. Well, as you are following is leading

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the next season in your Bible school really became

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quite significant because God began giving you

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that clearer sense of what he wanted you to do

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in life. And along the way, he also showed you

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his faithfulness in your relationships, which

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is quite a fun story. Would you share about that?

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Yeah, the summer before I went to Bible school,

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I went to a youth camp. And in the midst of the

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youth camp, God was very clear that I was to

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go to Bible school, called into the ministry.

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But that summer, I went home and my ex -boyfriend

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showed up. And he said, I'm ready to get married.

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And I looked at him and I said, I'm not quite

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ready. Need to go to Bible school. And he said,

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I can't wait. And I said, okay, well, I have

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to follow the Lord's leading. And so I was brokenhearted.

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I was so brokenhearted. And yet life went on.

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I said, Lord, you're going to have to do a work

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in me. When I went to Bible school in obedience,

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the Lord healed my heart. And a couple of months

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later, I found out that he was married. Wow,

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that was quick. I can't believe it. Wow. He was

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serious. He was very serious. He was very serious

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about getting married. So, but in Bible school,

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I was like a little mother hand. I've always

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been helping and taking care. And I was just

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a busy body, I guess, taking care of everybody

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else. And in the midst of it all, I, I, one of

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those times I got so sick and I was, I think

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I was even fasting. I was in chapel on one side.

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of the chapel and I was crying out to God I need

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someone to take care of me and I caught myself

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saying I need a boyfriend and on the other side

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my my husband -to -be was on the other side of

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chapel calling out to God he says you you promised

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me Lord that that this girl was going to be my

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wife and I just said no come on and so we met

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We met our last class of school. All the classes

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met at chapel. And in our miss walking towards

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chapel, he came up to me and told me, are you

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going to be my girlfriend or what? So wait a

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minute, wait a minute. Did you know this boy

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before this? Well, we met. We clashed big time

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when we first met. He was not the kind of person.

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that I would be attracted to actually I didn't

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even like him he was very he was a social butterfly

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to be honest with you and I was the opposite

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I was serious I was totally on the other side

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of the spectrum very serious minded very serious

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minded for the both of us actually and so uh

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it was not a kind of person I would seek out

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but he was he was very determined by that um

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It was incredibly crazy. What attracted you to

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him? I mean, of course the Lord can speak, but

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there's got to be something that kind of says,

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maybe. Well, soon after I reluctantly and by

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faith, I accepted him to be my boyfriend because

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God answered. How did he answer? I asked him

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for a boyfriend and he answered immediately.

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Well, how did he do that? I mean, how did he

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do that? Not just because somebody came up and

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said, will you be my girlfriend? But I mean,

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What kind of confirmation did you get? I prayed

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that I want a boyfriend now. I need someone to

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take care of me now. And he just came up and

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says, would you be my girlfriend? And I'm just

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like, so I took it by faith. I thought I was

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crazy. I really thought, did I hear you right?

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Because after I accepted, I went into my dorm

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room. I was so, so sick. I couldn't get out.

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And I was just sad because I knew nobody was

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going to bring food to me. Nobody has taken care

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of me all this time, even when I was sick. So

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I was just crying to the Lord once again in prayer,

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saying, did I do right, Lord? Was I right to

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accept it? Did I hear you right? And when I hear

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a knock on the door, it says, hey, Joelle's sending

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you some food. And it was my favorite. It was

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a chicken sandwich and Dr. Pepper. I was amazed

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how God answered so quickly. I did the right

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thing. And so it was so touching that God would

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respond so quickly to our cry in the midst of

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it all. I mean, it's all through prayer. I mean,

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that's our lifeline as a believer. And I truly

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believe that everybody should have that lifeline

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with God constantly because he's our daddy and

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he comes through when we need him the most. He

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always inclines his ear to hear our cry and our

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hearts. When we need him, he answers very quickly.

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Very quickly. In the midst of it all, I had the

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agreement with him that I would not be a hypocrite.

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Because I made it clear that I didn't like him,

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though I accepted to be his girlfriend. But he

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needed to give me some time to go in prayer.

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And ask God to deposit love and affection for

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this man. For this young boy, young man. So he

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gave me the time to do so. And in the midst of

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prayer and in worship, God opened my eyes to

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see his heart towards him. And he deposited that

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love as he loved his God. God placed love in

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my heart for him. It was, yeah, it was crazy.

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So was it smooth sailing after that? Oh, no.

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Oh, no, no, no. Nothing in life seems to be smooth

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sailing. No, I was scared because things were

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getting serious, very serious, really fast. And

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I broke up with him because I thought the separation

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would be a test. if this is really from God or

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not. And so on my way home, driving home, my

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mom and my parents, because he cried to my brother.

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He became best friends with my brother. And he

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told him she broke my heart and all this stuff.

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So I heard it from my parents. How dare you hurt

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his heart? And we've told you many times not

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to. You know, play with people's feelings and

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all this stuff. And I'm here crying my heart

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out because I knew I loved him. But I was afraid

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that I wanted to make sure that it was God who's

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directed me to marry him. You know, and so I

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was just an emotional, not just an emotional.

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And because of the circumstances and we were

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out there just in Bible school. So I wanted to

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make sure that it was God. who was directing

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me for this kind of a relationship. Yeah, I mean,

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it's serious. It's a covenant, right? Yes, it's

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a lifetime covenant. You get to know one another,

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but when you get married, it's a covenant. I

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mean, it's a serious thing. And unfortunately,

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too many people don't take it that way. It's

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crazy. But it's a serious thing, yeah. Yeah,

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it is. But he found his way back. He didn't go

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to school for about a year because he was on

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his own. He didn't have parents to back him up.

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He didn't have a church that financially would

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help him or nothing. So everything he had to

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work in order to pay his school. So he couldn't

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afford to do both. So during that time, he talked

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himself into being the driver of our choir tour.

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And during that time is when on our way back

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from wherever we were back to San Antonio, he

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proposed. He just said, so are you going to be

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my girlfriend forever or what? Luckily, in prayer,

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the Lord had shown me the night before. Actually,

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this is how quick God works. The night before,

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he showed me that I was to be his wife. And so

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I was able to answer immediately. Once again,

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I gave him restrictions. I need six months. You

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need to do this. You need to do that. And he

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did. He followed through. We were married soon

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after I graduated. I graduated May of the following

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year. And in August, we were married. Oh, Rosh,

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Lillian, I love how intentional you are about

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seeking God in your relationships. You know,

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so often people go follow through on what feels

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right without really inviting God into the process.

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But you chose to listen. which faithfully guided

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you to the right person and you made sure of

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it. And I know that from prior conversations,

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you say that you try to live every part of your

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life by faith like that. And that includes your

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finances, which is tricky sometimes. But God

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has continually showed himself faithful to you.

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So share a few ways that you've seen God provide

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through the years. From the get -go, when we

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first got married, we didn't have much. We got

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married, and the money that we got in our wedding

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was enough gas money and a couple of weeks of

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groceries. The Lord provided even for a house

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because my parents were with us. So where are

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you going to live, and where are you going to

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live? And I truly didn't know. I just took it

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by faith. He's taking care of that end. I'm taking

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care of this end. But he found a way. He didn't

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have means, money, you know, to support himself.

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So he found a small trailer on campus and he

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fixed it up and he was able to give us three

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months of free rent. Because, you know, that

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was his skill set to remodel and everything.

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So he did that. So we lived in this small trailer

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and we had enough gas just to get home and a

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couple of weeks of groceries. That was amazing

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in itself. That was our first home that God provided.

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His provision of supposedly a job was waiting

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for him and there was no job whatsoever. And

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so he had a friend who came to visit us and a

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gentleman who was very downhearted and Joelle

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ministered to him. And he said, bring your family.

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My wife is an amazing cook and will feed you

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and your family fajitas and the whole works.

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And I just waited for him to open the fridge

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and the freezer. And all there was was a couple

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of ham and some bread and some condiments. And

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that was it. And I told my husband, so where's

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the fajitas and where's the beans and where's

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the, because we don't have nothing. He said,

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don't worry. I said, okay. So I went in prayer

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and I said, okay, Lord, you're in charge. You

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know what you're doing. And so that week, because

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it was that coming weekend, during the week,

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we received a check from my uncle, a wedding

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gift, a $50. $50 back then was more than now,

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but we were able to. buy everything we needed,

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and then some to provide for this family to feed

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them, all of them. And in the midst of that,

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God provided for my husband to get a job and

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even a better paying job with better benefits.

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So the Lord, in that sense, I mean, immediately

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showed himself faithful in our lives as a married

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couple. And in our ministry, in every church

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that we went to, As pastors know, we always go

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through financial difficulty, especially with

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us because we moved every three years since I

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met the guy. Since I married this man, we would

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move every three years. You know how expensive

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moving is? It's crazy. But we moved all over

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Texas, back and forth everywhere. And so God

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in that way always provided. He always showed

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us what to do, what not to do. God always came

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through no matter what. Living out of one single

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income. He was the only one who was working.

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So that speaks volumes on God's behalf. Living

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out all these things, it's just incredible. In

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2008, the finances collapsed. And so we lost

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our home. We lost... Our cars, we lost everything.

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And it's so funny because many people ask us,

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weren't you scared? Weren't you afraid? Weren't

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you worried? I said, no, actually we were in

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perfect peace. God's grace was amazing in our

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lives because, and worst of all, it was just

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before Christmas. It was just before Christmas

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when all this happened. And yet the Lord. I mean,

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a lot of people would start questioning God's

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faithfulness in that. You know, we just lost

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our house, God. Where's your faithfulness? Well,

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the Lord provided through one of our members,

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they had an unfinished house. They had problems

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finding someone to fix their house. And so there

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was a deal that they told us, a realtor told

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us, if you leave the house two weeks before the

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deadline, We'll give you a $2 ,000 bonus. And

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we'll use that money to fix, to make a workable

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kitchen, a workable bathroom, and to insulate

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my daughter's bedroom. In this unfinished house.

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In this unfinished house. And so... That's what

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happened. We fixed it all, and the Lord provided,

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because they had a chimney, provided wood so

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we could have some kind of heating. And my husband

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and I would sleep next to the fireplace. And

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in the midst of all that, I was working part

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-time, and I lost that job during that time.

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And in the midst of that, the Lord provided for

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me to go to school. So, I mean, it's just amazing

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how God always comes through, even if it's at

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the last minute. Yeah, I mean, you already got

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your degree. So what kind of school did you go

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to at that point? Well, the schooling was the

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massage school. Oh, the massage school. Yeah,

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massage school. It was crazy because I hadn't

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gone to school in 23 years. I told the Lord,

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you know, I'm going to dedicate myself as a housewife

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in the ministry unless you tell me otherwise.

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And so he opened doors for me to go to school

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again. I mean, in one day, this, what? I lost

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my job on Wednesday. I looked up, Thursday I

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was looking up some things, schools and places

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to go. By Friday, I had my interview. And Monday,

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Of that week, the following week, I was in school

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sitting in a classroom. Wow. Seven months later,

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I had my degree as a licensed massage therapist.

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Wow. And all without any money, right? All without

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any money. Not without any money. No. I provided

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for financial aid, but I don't know even where

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the money came from because we had to give a

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certain amount per month. And gas money, because

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from where we are, Kerrville to San Antonio,

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that's a good 40 -minute drive back and forth.

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And so God provided for all that. Yeah, those

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are some powerful testimonies of God's faithfulness.

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Oh my goodness, yes. I mean, not only that, but

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you've had some testimonies of God's protection,

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even really at the very beginning of your life.

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Share a few of those stories. Well, my mother

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tells me because I was a baby. She testifies

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that when they were pastoring the church that

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I grew up in, I was asleep. I was in the parking

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lot, you know, our house right behind the church.

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Well, they were fixing something or working something

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in the church. She left me asleep in the crib,

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and then she felt the Holy Spirit prompting her.

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And so to go check on me, and so she went to

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go check on me, and she found me, my head, I

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was, I slipped in between the crib somehow. And

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she tried to pull me up, and she felt that I

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could dislocate my shoulder. She pulled me down,

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it would overextend my neck or injure my head.

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And she just screamed, and my dad showed up,

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and like Hercules, he broke the crib open. So

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I could be able to breathe again because I was

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already turning blue. I mean, no oxygen whatsoever.

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And yet the Lord, I mean, prompted my mom. Otherwise,

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I would have died right then and there. It's

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just crazy. His protection has always been there.

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There was another occasion when I was a teenager

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in college. We had a freak storm in El Paso of

00:26:33.819 --> 00:26:38.930
all days, April. A snow. And it froze. And I

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was driving home. I had a small little car. And

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the Lord prompted me to drive. Not to avoid the

00:26:48.049 --> 00:26:51.410
overpass. But go on the side. And so I did. I

00:26:51.410 --> 00:26:54.509
followed his promptings. I always pray at night.

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Because I was driving always by myself. Late

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at night. So I was driving on the side. And went

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home. My dad. said can I borrow your car and

00:27:04.910 --> 00:27:09.410
I said sure because his gas was low he was picking

00:27:09.410 --> 00:27:12.730
up my mom from nursing from from work and so

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when he did he was going that same highway he

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went over the pass and the car hit an ice patch

00:27:25.569 --> 00:27:32.750
he lost control He hit the rail on the top of

00:27:32.750 --> 00:27:38.009
the overpass, and it turned the car to the opposite

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direction of the passing cars. If he would have

00:27:42.650 --> 00:27:46.289
driven his car, it was a heavy car, big car,

00:27:46.410 --> 00:27:49.150
they would have gone down, straight down the

00:27:49.150 --> 00:27:53.650
overpass, down to their death. Wow. And of course,

00:27:53.670 --> 00:27:56.970
they got into an accident that my mom and dad

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had to go to a hospital, have them checked on

00:27:59.069 --> 00:28:02.730
and stuff like that. But God's protection, once

00:28:02.730 --> 00:28:06.029
again, for me and for my parents. Yeah. That

00:28:06.029 --> 00:28:12.049
day that God's just protected us from any worse

00:28:12.049 --> 00:28:16.990
danger. That was amazing. And in Bible school.

00:28:19.210 --> 00:28:23.230
I fell in the river. What river? The San Antonio

00:28:23.230 --> 00:28:28.869
River. That was an interesting predicament because

00:28:28.869 --> 00:28:32.349
I always wanted to be part of the choir in LABI

00:28:32.349 --> 00:28:35.670
in Bible school. And for whatever reason, the

00:28:35.670 --> 00:28:37.390
Lord told me a prayer. You're not going to make

00:28:37.390 --> 00:28:41.029
it this year, but you will next year. And I said,

00:28:41.049 --> 00:28:43.869
okay. But I always wanted to be at the river

00:28:43.869 --> 00:28:46.980
walk singing Christmas songs. That's what they

00:28:46.980 --> 00:28:51.480
did every year during Christmas. And so the Lord

00:28:51.480 --> 00:28:55.119
answered my prayer because not only did I sing,

00:28:55.299 --> 00:28:59.359
I was signing. Oh, okay. I was signing while

00:28:59.359 --> 00:29:04.380
they were singing. And so I was head over heels

00:29:04.380 --> 00:29:06.259
that God answered my prayer that I was able to

00:29:06.259 --> 00:29:09.519
participate in that. So all the crowd was coming

00:29:09.519 --> 00:29:12.319
down from the amphitheater and everybody was

00:29:12.319 --> 00:29:14.980
being pushed. And if you have ever been to the

00:29:14.980 --> 00:29:18.920
Riverwalk, In San Antonio, there's no rails to

00:29:18.920 --> 00:29:23.660
keep you from falling in the river. And the pavement

00:29:23.660 --> 00:29:30.339
is uneven, too. So one of my classmates was pushed

00:29:30.339 --> 00:29:35.019
in a way that he was losing balance. So he reached

00:29:35.019 --> 00:29:37.460
out. Somebody grabbed my hand, you know, to prevent

00:29:37.460 --> 00:29:40.920
me from falling. I grabbed him, but nobody grabbed

00:29:40.920 --> 00:29:46.589
me. So I, with his weight. He fell in. He was

00:29:46.589 --> 00:29:49.150
shorter than I was. He was about a little bit,

00:29:49.230 --> 00:29:53.670
about five feet. And the water reached him waist

00:29:53.670 --> 00:29:59.390
high. And I jumped in the river head first. Oh,

00:29:59.390 --> 00:30:03.430
wow. And I was taller than him. I didn't feel

00:30:03.430 --> 00:30:06.609
nothing. Nothing. Absolutely nothing. I didn't

00:30:06.609 --> 00:30:09.549
feel the impact. I didn't feel the impact of

00:30:09.549 --> 00:30:12.670
the water. No water came into my eyes. I had

00:30:12.670 --> 00:30:16.730
contacts. Nothing in my nose, mouth, or ears.

00:30:17.430 --> 00:30:21.890
All I felt was dirt in my feet and my shoe and

00:30:21.890 --> 00:30:24.529
my coat, which it was in the middle of winter,

00:30:24.589 --> 00:30:29.650
once again, December. And my coat floating on

00:30:29.650 --> 00:30:33.329
top of my head. That's all I felt. And as soon

00:30:33.329 --> 00:30:36.529
as I came in, they took me out. And when they

00:30:36.529 --> 00:30:41.110
took me out, I was laughing in the spirit. literally

00:30:41.110 --> 00:30:44.210
laughing in the spirit. I was just joyful, thanking

00:30:44.210 --> 00:30:47.910
the Lord that he answered my prayer. But I didn't

00:30:47.910 --> 00:30:52.109
know the severity of the situation until after,

00:30:52.230 --> 00:30:57.910
later on that week, which was when we went back

00:30:57.910 --> 00:31:03.150
to school. When I called my mom, she said, what

00:31:03.150 --> 00:31:06.549
happened? And I thought my brother told my mom.

00:31:06.890 --> 00:31:08.950
What happened? He says, nothing happened, Mama.

00:31:09.069 --> 00:31:12.170
I just fell in the river. And she said, what

00:31:12.170 --> 00:31:14.289
happened? The Lord had me praying for you. What

00:31:14.289 --> 00:31:18.349
happened? And so I found out that the severity

00:31:18.349 --> 00:31:21.089
of the situation is that they wouldn't have caught

00:31:21.089 --> 00:31:25.069
me or took me out in time. A boat was passing

00:31:25.069 --> 00:31:28.049
through, and they would have caught my coat and

00:31:28.049 --> 00:31:30.829
would have dragged me along with it. Oh, my goodness.

00:31:31.069 --> 00:31:36.359
Yeah. So once again, God's protection. Yeah,

00:31:36.359 --> 00:31:40.099
a lot of times we don't even know that his angels

00:31:40.099 --> 00:31:42.220
are around protecting us, right? There's a scripture

00:31:42.220 --> 00:31:44.940
that says his angels will keep you from striking

00:31:44.940 --> 00:31:48.539
your foot against a stone. Yeah, his angels will

00:31:48.539 --> 00:31:52.579
camp around you to protect you. And he always

00:31:52.579 --> 00:31:57.039
did. Well, Lillian, I really appreciate your

00:31:57.039 --> 00:31:59.740
perspective on how God works. And I know you've

00:31:59.740 --> 00:32:03.559
said that. Sometimes he allows us to walk through

00:32:03.559 --> 00:32:05.579
difficult things, which you've walked through

00:32:05.579 --> 00:32:07.779
some difficult things, in order to benefit others.

00:32:08.420 --> 00:32:11.940
So explain what you mean by that and share a

00:32:11.940 --> 00:32:14.119
few examples from your own life. Well, in my

00:32:14.119 --> 00:32:18.579
first pregnancy in our first church, I got too

00:32:18.579 --> 00:32:22.940
active. It was my last pregnancy. Yeah, it was

00:32:22.940 --> 00:32:26.660
my last pregnancy and I got too active and I

00:32:26.660 --> 00:32:30.039
was bedridden for two weeks. And during those

00:32:30.039 --> 00:32:33.099
two weeks, it was difficult for me even to be

00:32:33.099 --> 00:32:37.259
still to begin with. But I couldn't do my regular

00:32:37.259 --> 00:32:41.279
thing. As a mother, it's hard to sit still knowing

00:32:41.279 --> 00:32:44.740
that you have dishes to wash and you have house

00:32:44.740 --> 00:32:48.559
to clean and laundry and to get up and make food

00:32:48.559 --> 00:32:51.680
and all that stuff. And I couldn't do that. And

00:32:51.680 --> 00:32:56.319
it was difficult for me because there were some

00:32:56.319 --> 00:32:59.140
ladies who would come. they were not faithful

00:32:59.140 --> 00:33:04.160
in taking care of those things. And I said, okay,

00:33:04.220 --> 00:33:08.319
Lord, you got this. And until my husband asked

00:33:08.319 --> 00:33:12.539
for help, then they came about. But soon after

00:33:12.539 --> 00:33:17.539
I got well, and I had my baby and everything,

00:33:17.700 --> 00:33:21.640
a lady of our church had the same circumstances.

00:33:22.799 --> 00:33:25.640
And so I said, oh, I know exactly what she needs.

00:33:26.410 --> 00:33:30.829
And so I set up a schedule faithfully for every

00:33:30.829 --> 00:33:33.269
meal for that lady to get her and her family.

00:33:33.589 --> 00:33:36.430
I found some other ladies to help her clean her

00:33:36.430 --> 00:33:40.309
house. I set up everything so she would never

00:33:40.309 --> 00:33:44.289
do without. And she was crying when we went to

00:33:44.289 --> 00:33:46.809
go visit her, to minister to her. She was crying

00:33:46.809 --> 00:33:50.130
and says, how did you know? And all I could think

00:33:50.130 --> 00:33:53.269
of the scriptures says the Lord wants us to comfort

00:33:53.269 --> 00:33:56.720
as we were comforted. as we were ministered to

00:33:56.720 --> 00:34:01.480
show grace or to show to them. And so God, in

00:34:01.480 --> 00:34:04.799
many times, and that's only once, but many times

00:34:04.799 --> 00:34:07.579
allows us to go through some experiences, some

00:34:07.579 --> 00:34:11.639
difficult times, to be able to show his faithfulness,

00:34:11.639 --> 00:34:15.420
his glory, and to know exactly what they need,

00:34:15.599 --> 00:34:19.900
exactly to know what to say and how to say it,

00:34:19.900 --> 00:34:23.179
or simply just be there for them. There are times

00:34:23.179 --> 00:34:26.900
you don't have to say nothing, Show up. Show

00:34:26.900 --> 00:34:30.920
up. And many times the Lord has done that. Many

00:34:30.920 --> 00:34:34.820
times, our first time that we were in, I think,

00:34:34.820 --> 00:34:42.059
the early 220s, 2000s, we had our first flood

00:34:42.059 --> 00:34:45.940
in Kerrville. We were just above the flood line,

00:34:46.000 --> 00:34:48.079
but we knew exactly what they needed because

00:34:48.079 --> 00:34:51.260
we went through the same thing. So we set up

00:34:51.260 --> 00:34:55.949
in our neighborhood. to feed as many people as

00:34:55.949 --> 00:34:59.250
we could. We gave out gallons and gallons of

00:34:59.250 --> 00:35:01.389
bleach because we knew they needed to disinfect

00:35:01.389 --> 00:35:04.690
everything. I mean, it's like God allowed us

00:35:04.690 --> 00:35:07.469
to experience that to help our fellow neighbors,

00:35:07.710 --> 00:35:12.989
our fellow men as well. So it was a time that

00:35:12.989 --> 00:35:17.610
the Lord allowed us to be able to help and minister

00:35:17.610 --> 00:35:20.329
to those who need it. There was an elderly couple

00:35:20.329 --> 00:35:22.869
that comes to mind that They had nobody, all

00:35:22.869 --> 00:35:28.130
their family and daughters and their children

00:35:28.130 --> 00:35:31.449
have all moved away from them. And they experienced

00:35:31.449 --> 00:35:33.710
that they had about two feet of water in their

00:35:33.710 --> 00:35:36.329
house. And they were the kind that they were

00:35:36.329 --> 00:35:40.889
up in age, elderly and could move about. So they

00:35:40.889 --> 00:35:42.949
needed help for someone to clean their house.

00:35:43.030 --> 00:35:46.289
And we set up something to help them. And so

00:35:46.289 --> 00:35:49.190
there were things like that, that God allowed

00:35:49.190 --> 00:35:55.150
us to experience to help others. In 2010, December

00:35:55.150 --> 00:36:02.710
2010, the Lord has always come through. Actually,

00:36:03.050 --> 00:36:06.889
most recent experience was, I'm sure you've heard

00:36:06.889 --> 00:36:09.389
of it, our audience has heard of it, our historical

00:36:09.389 --> 00:36:18.190
flood in 2025. That was something else. Our church

00:36:18.190 --> 00:36:21.460
was preparing to... We have been having a leak

00:36:21.460 --> 00:36:26.539
in our roof. And we were trying to set up fundraisers

00:36:26.539 --> 00:36:31.400
so we can get money to fix our roof. And in the

00:36:31.400 --> 00:36:35.880
midst of that, the flood came. And we just felt

00:36:35.880 --> 00:36:40.360
led. They needed more than we do. And so we gave

00:36:40.360 --> 00:36:43.519
everything and anything. We emptied our closets.

00:36:43.539 --> 00:36:46.699
We gave out whatever we could in good condition

00:36:46.699 --> 00:36:48.980
to give to people as much as we could. And we

00:36:48.980 --> 00:36:52.449
emptied. Emptied everything from day one. It

00:36:52.449 --> 00:36:56.289
was July 5th. And we were already giving people

00:36:56.289 --> 00:37:02.969
whatever we had at hand. And that same, the following

00:37:02.969 --> 00:37:07.909
day, we got a call from a ministry in Laredo.

00:37:08.989 --> 00:37:14.190
I'm ready to give you an 18 -wheeler, 30 pallets

00:37:14.190 --> 00:37:20.409
of items and food and supplies for Curvil. Will

00:37:20.409 --> 00:37:23.030
you be able to receive it? And my husband was

00:37:23.030 --> 00:37:24.969
scared because we've never done anything like

00:37:24.969 --> 00:37:33.050
this ever. And by faith, he said yes. And what

00:37:33.050 --> 00:37:37.969
can we do? And so we had our parking lot full

00:37:37.969 --> 00:37:41.070
of items and stuff. And through that, that was

00:37:41.070 --> 00:37:44.610
the beginning of what God has been providing

00:37:44.610 --> 00:37:49.539
for our community, for our church. It's still

00:37:49.539 --> 00:37:53.679
going on. We just recently received an 18 -wheeler

00:37:53.679 --> 00:37:58.860
of 30 pallets from Convoy of Hope. And just this

00:37:58.860 --> 00:38:02.559
past weekend, I'm not kidding, just this weekend,

00:38:02.739 --> 00:38:06.380
the 10th, no, the 11th, we had a food drive.

00:38:07.179 --> 00:38:10.599
And we gave, we emptied the house. I mean, we

00:38:10.599 --> 00:38:15.239
emptied everything. We gave over 350, ministered

00:38:15.239 --> 00:38:20.630
to 350 families. I mean, it was, it was amazing.

00:38:21.469 --> 00:38:27.449
I met you through flood relief with, with somebody

00:38:27.449 --> 00:38:30.150
cares. And one of the other things that you're,

00:38:30.150 --> 00:38:32.789
you know, you're talking about giving out, you

00:38:32.789 --> 00:38:35.150
know, food and stuff, but, but your ministry

00:38:35.150 --> 00:38:37.369
goes much deeper than that. I know that you are

00:38:37.369 --> 00:38:41.510
walking alongside these families and helping

00:38:41.510 --> 00:38:45.059
them process what's happened because. Some of

00:38:45.059 --> 00:38:47.920
them just had water come up a few feet in their

00:38:47.920 --> 00:38:50.260
home and they cleaned it out and they're recovering.

00:38:50.380 --> 00:38:53.760
But some of them actually had more significant

00:38:53.760 --> 00:38:55.800
trauma in their lives. And God's brought them

00:38:55.800 --> 00:38:58.920
into your relationship with you so you could

00:38:58.920 --> 00:39:02.960
really provide a deeper hope and help to them.

00:39:03.900 --> 00:39:06.539
Well, the biggest hope we can give is Jesus.

00:39:08.239 --> 00:39:15.289
Jesus. That is what sustains us. That is the

00:39:15.289 --> 00:39:19.730
rock. We built our house upon the rock. That

00:39:19.730 --> 00:39:22.929
no matter what storms come our way, nothing will

00:39:22.929 --> 00:39:26.869
be moved because it's him who sustains us, who

00:39:26.869 --> 00:39:32.550
keeps us. He is our blessed hope. And we can

00:39:32.550 --> 00:39:35.909
call on him. That's what's so amazing. We can

00:39:35.909 --> 00:39:39.550
call upon him 24 -7. And he's always available.

00:39:41.480 --> 00:39:45.559
He knows. We minister to people. We've gone to

00:39:45.559 --> 00:39:49.019
their house. We have ministered in prayer. We've

00:39:49.019 --> 00:39:52.179
ministered to be there with them, a shoulder

00:39:52.179 --> 00:39:56.019
to cry on. And the Lord has given me such a blessing

00:39:56.019 --> 00:40:00.940
to be able to even minister to families who we

00:40:00.940 --> 00:40:06.940
specifically have a family in our church that

00:40:06.940 --> 00:40:11.230
is hearing impaired. That is, to me, it's amazing

00:40:11.230 --> 00:40:15.489
how God prepared me way before ahead of time

00:40:15.489 --> 00:40:20.269
to be having that skill set to be able to minister

00:40:20.269 --> 00:40:24.809
to people who literally cannot hear. Yeah. And

00:40:24.809 --> 00:40:28.650
to be ministered to in their level. Yeah. It's

00:40:28.650 --> 00:40:31.309
like, you know. Yeah. Before you, before the

00:40:31.309 --> 00:40:34.940
Lord took you to Kerrville, that family. They

00:40:34.940 --> 00:40:37.019
had no one that was ministering to them. And

00:40:37.019 --> 00:40:42.780
those children were really forsaken. Somehow,

00:40:42.880 --> 00:40:46.380
some way, the mother of those, there were four

00:40:46.380 --> 00:40:49.880
girls. She made a way to make them understand

00:40:49.880 --> 00:40:53.699
to believe in Jesus. But they had no idea, no

00:40:53.699 --> 00:40:58.920
way of knowing to be discipled, to be ministered

00:40:58.920 --> 00:41:02.679
to in their language. And God prepared me way

00:41:02.679 --> 00:41:05.570
ahead of time. So by the time I get to Kerrville,

00:41:05.670 --> 00:41:09.469
I was able to use that talent that God gave me

00:41:09.469 --> 00:41:14.130
to be able to minister to them. It's just amazing.

00:41:14.510 --> 00:41:16.670
And I love it that, you know, back when you were

00:41:16.670 --> 00:41:19.349
in Bible school, somebody came and anointed your

00:41:19.349 --> 00:41:22.250
hands and said, God is going to have, you know,

00:41:22.250 --> 00:41:24.070
God's going to use your hands in ministry. Of

00:41:24.070 --> 00:41:25.889
course, you had no idea. You might have had an

00:41:25.889 --> 00:41:28.530
inkling of an idea. Well, maybe it's sign language

00:41:28.530 --> 00:41:31.840
because you were starting to do that some. But

00:41:31.840 --> 00:41:35.099
God also uses you to minister through massage

00:41:35.099 --> 00:41:38.260
therapy. Share a few ways that you've seen God

00:41:38.260 --> 00:41:40.800
work through that aspect of your hands. First

00:41:40.800 --> 00:41:43.820
of all, being a pastor's wife, I'm constantly

00:41:43.820 --> 00:41:48.500
in prayer. It keeps me on my knees, like people

00:41:48.500 --> 00:41:53.599
might say. But in even massage therapy, I literally

00:41:53.599 --> 00:41:56.119
take the word of God that says, as you lay hands

00:41:56.119 --> 00:41:59.650
on the sick, they shall recover. And many times

00:41:59.650 --> 00:42:04.110
I have witnessed that physically. And I make

00:42:04.110 --> 00:42:06.170
it clear, those that I know that they're believers,

00:42:06.469 --> 00:42:11.150
I remind them, remember, I just put lotion on

00:42:11.150 --> 00:42:14.789
you, but it is God who brings the healing. And

00:42:14.789 --> 00:42:18.329
some of them have allowed me to pray. Even those

00:42:18.329 --> 00:42:20.449
that are not believers that are going through

00:42:20.449 --> 00:42:24.849
trauma, I've had people who have an emotional

00:42:24.849 --> 00:42:28.150
release while I'm massaging. And I know that

00:42:28.150 --> 00:42:31.110
it's God that's the Holy Spirit moving in them

00:42:31.110 --> 00:42:33.929
because I always pray while I massage. And so

00:42:33.929 --> 00:42:36.250
I know the Holy Spirit is touching their hearts.

00:42:36.550 --> 00:42:41.070
And then as I'm massaging and I feel them releasing

00:42:41.070 --> 00:42:44.449
that, I ask them, can I pray for you? And as

00:42:44.449 --> 00:42:48.349
I'm massaging, I pray for them. And they feel

00:42:48.349 --> 00:42:51.670
ministered to. I mean, they feel his presence

00:42:51.670 --> 00:42:56.380
in the room. And it's just amazing how God moves

00:42:56.380 --> 00:42:59.440
in that. I mean, I've had this several times

00:42:59.440 --> 00:43:02.019
people have come with, I haven't been able to

00:43:02.019 --> 00:43:05.360
sleep in days and I can't move my shoulder. I

00:43:05.360 --> 00:43:08.280
can't move my hands at all. And please help me.

00:43:08.380 --> 00:43:11.980
And I just pray. I just say, we got to pray.

00:43:12.119 --> 00:43:15.400
This is a God thing. We have him. We need to

00:43:15.400 --> 00:43:18.980
bring him in the picture. And so I pray and we

00:43:18.980 --> 00:43:21.800
prayed and I just start. asking the Lord, direct

00:43:21.800 --> 00:43:24.860
my hands, what I need to do, how to do it, when

00:43:24.860 --> 00:43:27.719
to do it, all these things. And so I'm constantly

00:43:27.719 --> 00:43:30.579
in prayer about that. And I see in the midst

00:43:30.579 --> 00:43:35.420
of that, that lady came out from excruciating

00:43:35.420 --> 00:43:40.119
pain, which is a 10 and above, and not being

00:43:40.119 --> 00:43:43.579
able to move her arm at all to walking out pain

00:43:43.579 --> 00:43:46.820
-free and have the liberty to move her hands

00:43:46.820 --> 00:43:49.789
every which way. Just in one session. In one

00:43:49.789 --> 00:43:53.210
session, one hour, and I keep telling them and

00:43:53.210 --> 00:43:55.869
reminding them, that's not me, that's God. And

00:43:55.869 --> 00:43:59.409
in the midst of something, oh, I can't move it,

00:43:59.429 --> 00:44:02.050
or I can't, oh my goodness, what did you do?

00:44:02.150 --> 00:44:06.250
It's not me, it's God. That's God. I mean, that's

00:44:06.250 --> 00:44:10.570
totally God. You have to understand, as a massage

00:44:10.570 --> 00:44:14.750
therapist, a massage session will just take the

00:44:14.750 --> 00:44:18.159
edge off your pain. You know, like, for instance,

00:44:18.239 --> 00:44:20.679
if you have an eight and it's, you know, a scale

00:44:20.679 --> 00:44:23.960
from one to ten and you're an eight, the massage

00:44:23.960 --> 00:44:26.360
therapy for one hour would take off the edge.

00:44:26.400 --> 00:44:30.280
It would go down to a six. You know, just two

00:44:30.280 --> 00:44:33.039
notches. That's as far as it would probably normally

00:44:33.039 --> 00:44:37.280
would go as a massage. But when God gets involved,

00:44:37.659 --> 00:44:42.800
he heals completely. Or it's more than two notches

00:44:42.800 --> 00:44:45.539
down. You know, it's to the point. I mean, and

00:44:45.539 --> 00:44:48.570
I've seen it. I've experienced it with many of

00:44:48.570 --> 00:44:53.170
my clients, and it's just amazing what God does.

00:44:53.289 --> 00:44:56.590
And I get to minister to them, share the word.

00:44:56.710 --> 00:44:59.550
There's many believers that I even get to disciple

00:44:59.550 --> 00:45:02.510
while I'm massaging. Oh, I have a question, Bible

00:45:02.510 --> 00:45:08.150
question. So, I mean, it's just such a privilege

00:45:08.150 --> 00:45:11.349
that I get to minister outside the four walls

00:45:11.349 --> 00:45:16.030
of the church. as Jesus did, and he ministered

00:45:16.030 --> 00:45:20.190
in the marketplace, or in the desert, or in the

00:45:20.190 --> 00:45:24.409
middle of the ocean, and up on the mountainside.

00:45:24.469 --> 00:45:27.889
You know, it's amazing. God is not limited to

00:45:27.889 --> 00:45:31.269
the four walls of the church, and we are to be

00:45:31.269 --> 00:45:34.429
light and salt wherever we go. Yeah, well, you

00:45:34.429 --> 00:45:36.809
know, those stories, they remind me of Moses'

00:45:37.030 --> 00:45:40.329
encounter with the Lord in Exodus 3 and 4, where,

00:45:40.349 --> 00:45:42.630
you know, God's calling him to go to Egypt and

00:45:42.630 --> 00:45:45.630
let his people go. And Moses starts listing all

00:45:45.630 --> 00:45:48.349
the reasons why he's not the right person. And

00:45:48.349 --> 00:45:51.309
then God simply asks, what's in your hand? Of

00:45:51.309 --> 00:45:53.750
course, it was just a shepherd's staff. But God

00:45:53.750 --> 00:45:56.670
used that shepherd's staff to work wonders. And

00:45:56.670 --> 00:45:59.780
in the same way, When God gives us a gift or

00:45:59.780 --> 00:46:02.699
a talent or a resource or a profession of, you

00:46:02.699 --> 00:46:05.019
know, whatever that might be, and we place it

00:46:05.019 --> 00:46:07.539
back in God's hands, he uses it in ways we could

00:46:07.539 --> 00:46:10.079
never imagine. So that's exactly what he's done

00:46:10.079 --> 00:46:13.599
to your hands. Well, Lillian, as we wrap up,

00:46:13.719 --> 00:46:17.019
is there a woman in the Bible whose story has

00:46:17.019 --> 00:46:20.059
especially encouraged or inspired you or taught

00:46:20.059 --> 00:46:22.699
you something in your walk with the Lord? Esther.

00:46:23.369 --> 00:46:26.309
I know many people, if you read the book of Esther,

00:46:26.469 --> 00:46:29.309
it doesn't mention God, but God is all over it.

00:46:30.230 --> 00:46:34.309
You can see God's direction. I mean, she didn't

00:46:34.309 --> 00:46:38.949
even want to be the queen. Why? No, why me? And

00:46:38.949 --> 00:46:41.590
yet she called it for a time such as this to

00:46:41.590 --> 00:46:47.190
save her people. God used her talents, her grace,

00:46:47.449 --> 00:46:52.519
or even her beauty. To call to have favor with

00:46:52.519 --> 00:46:57.139
the king. And to be able to save. And she saved

00:46:57.139 --> 00:47:01.579
it through giving her life completely to God.

00:47:02.260 --> 00:47:07.340
And in prayer. In prayer. She asked people to

00:47:07.340 --> 00:47:11.179
pray and fast for three days on her behalf. That

00:47:11.179 --> 00:47:13.820
she may have favor when she came to the king.

00:47:13.960 --> 00:47:17.420
To approach the king. Because in those Bible

00:47:17.420 --> 00:47:19.800
days, if you approached the king, you could die

00:47:19.800 --> 00:47:23.119
if he didn't call you. And she was willing to

00:47:23.119 --> 00:47:29.900
die to give up her life for God to use in the

00:47:29.900 --> 00:47:34.559
midst of this crisis to save her people. And

00:47:34.559 --> 00:47:39.019
that's what we have to do as believers to take

00:47:39.019 --> 00:47:44.309
up our cross and follow him. Be able to live

00:47:44.309 --> 00:47:48.889
for Christ and to die His gain. To live and die

00:47:48.889 --> 00:47:54.190
for Him. And be willing to do it. And He gives

00:47:54.190 --> 00:47:56.630
us the strength, once again, through prayer.

00:47:57.110 --> 00:48:00.650
And sometimes even fasting. To get the strength

00:48:00.650 --> 00:48:03.449
that we need to have victory over every part

00:48:03.449 --> 00:48:05.610
of our lives. Lillian, thank you so much for

00:48:05.610 --> 00:48:08.269
sharing your story. You know, it stands out so

00:48:08.269 --> 00:48:12.510
clearly. The steadfastness and unwavering faithfulness

00:48:12.510 --> 00:48:14.909
of God in every, really every season of life.

00:48:15.230 --> 00:48:18.010
From moments of uncertainty to times of real

00:48:18.010 --> 00:48:20.829
need. Even seasons that might have felt like

00:48:20.829 --> 00:48:24.130
a drought. Again and again, God has proven himself

00:48:24.130 --> 00:48:27.519
faithful. It brings us back to that promise in

00:48:27.519 --> 00:48:30.320
Jeremiah 17, 7 and 8 that says, the one who trusts

00:48:30.320 --> 00:48:33.420
in the Lord is like a tree planted by the water

00:48:33.420 --> 00:48:38.239
with roots that go deep. Even in a year of drought,

00:48:38.400 --> 00:48:42.320
it does not fear. Or a year of flood, it does

00:48:42.320 --> 00:48:45.780
not fear. It does not fail to produce fruit.

00:48:46.840 --> 00:48:49.019
Lillian, we've heard that in your life, even

00:48:49.019 --> 00:48:51.360
in financial hardship, even in seasons of uncertainty.

00:48:52.759 --> 00:48:55.619
God was still working, providing and guiding

00:48:55.619 --> 00:48:58.599
and bringing fruit out of your life as you trusted

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in him. And that kind of life doesn't come from

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easy circumstances. It comes from knowing the

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one who's faithful. And that faithfulness produces

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something that we all long for, and that's peace.

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Amen. We see that in the promise of Isaiah 26.

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In verses 3 and 4, it says, You, God, will keep

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in perfect peace. Those whose minds are steadfast

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because they trust in you. Trust in the Lord

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forever. For the Lord, the Lord himself is the

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rock eternal. What a beautiful picture of what

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we've heard today. Not a life without storms,

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but a life anchored in God in the middle of them.

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A life where peace is not dependent on circumstances,

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but on trust. And friend, that same faithfulness,

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that same peace is available to you. No matter

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what season you're in right now, whether things

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feel stable or uncertain, abundant or lacking,

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God has not changed. He's still faithful. He's

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still providing. He is still guiding. And he

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will meet you as you place your trust in him.

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So Lillian, as we close today, would you take

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a moment and pray for our listening friends?

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Heavenly Father, we come before you to thank

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you. Thank you for you are faithful. You are

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trustworthy. You have never changed. You are

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the same today, yesterday, today, and always.

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Father God, you are forever, forever faithful.

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We thank you, Lord, that you are our daddy, that

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we can call upon you at any time. You're available

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at any time. Father God, there's our listeners.

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Right now, I pray for them. Many of them are

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going through such severe trial. Many of them

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are going through trauma. They're going through

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sicknesses. They're experiencing so much pain,

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broken heartness, depression, lack of provision,

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Father God. They're going through so many difficulties

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and crisis. But Lord, you are faithful and just

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and loving and kind. You are more than sufficient,

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God, to provide, to heal, to restore, to save

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and deliver, Father God. And I pray in the name

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of Jesus that the voice, my voice reach where

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they are. Father God, you are able. There's no

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distance in prayer. Right where they are. Meet

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them right where they are, Father God. And you

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allow your Holy Spirit to minister to their hearts.

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That they can cry out, Abba, Father. That they

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can cry out, I need a Savior, Lord. I pray for

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those who need Jesus. Those who still need to

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recognize you as Lord and Savior. I pray, God,

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that they may come to know you. that they may

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know who is the anchor of their hearts and lives.

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If they can just come upon you, those who call

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upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. If

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we confess our sins, he is faithful and just

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to forgive us. And he will make us righteous

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and he will bring us that perfect peace that

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we need. And that you will restore and bring

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that salvation in their hearts and lives that

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we can be with you forever. I pray this in Jesus'

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name, and I am standing and believing, God, that

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you will do the work exceedingly beyond we could

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ever hope or imagine, for you are an amazing,

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faithful, and powerful God that we serve. In

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the precious name of Jesus, we pray. Amen and

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amen. Amen. Amen. Well, friends, as we close,

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I want to speak a blessing over you from Scripture.

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In Psalm 1 Thessalonians 5, 24, the MIV, it reads,

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the one who calls you is faithful and he will

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do it. So may you walk in confidence this week,

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knowing that the Lord who called you is faithful.

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May he strengthen your heart in every season,

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whether you're walking through abundance or uncertainty.

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May you trust him more deeply, rest in his provision,

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and recognize his guiding hand in your life.

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And may his faithfulness carry you, sustain you,

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and bring forth fruit, even in times that once

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felt like drought. Dear friends, if today's conversation

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encouraged you, I love for you to share this

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find more about Lillian, along with scriptures

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and resources from today's episode, in our show

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