(204) “The Building of Miracle Ministry” with Jeff Symons

0:00 at a certain point, a friend of mine said, you're starting to get a reputation as a prophet on Facebook. You should call some churches in the area and you should tell them that you're a prophet and that's how the Lord, maybe that's how the Lord's going to start your ministry. And I thought about it for a while. I was like, well, I know one minister that started that way and the Lord said, it would be better for you to humble yourself and I promote you at the right time than for you to promote yourself and I have to humble you. God promises in Joel 2, 28 to pour out his spirit on all humanity. Welcome to Global Outpouring, where we contend for that promise outpouring, we equip for that outpouring, so that we may engage in that very outpouring. I'm Philip Buss.

0:49 And I'm Sharon Buss. Welcome to the podcast today. We have with us a very special guest, Jeff Simons of Kingdom Awakening. And we're going to have a wonderful time talking about the things that he is doing in contending for the outpouring and equipping for the outpouring and engaging in it. Welcome to the podcast today. We're so glad that you're with us. But before we get started, we want to encourage you to make sure that you have gone to our website, globaloutpouring.net, and that you have signed up for our emails. Make sure that you're there. If you haven't gone there, please go there. And you can also give us some feedback and you can let us know what the Holy Spirit is saying to you through these podcasts, how the Lord is ministering to you.

1:42 We've had some really wonderful feedback and we're grateful to each and everyone who has written in to us. And we love hearing from wherever you are listening from. Let us know where you're listening from so that we can just celebrate with you how the Lord is moving in your life. So today we have with us Jeff Simons. And Jeff, thank you so much for joining us. Jeff Simons Thanks for having me. Sharon Buss Before we go too deep into what you're doing now, can you tell us a little bit about what your upbringing was and how the Lord got ahold of you? Jeff Simons Sure. So, growing up, I was raised in a Methodist home and in my teenage years, I stepped away from the faith entirely, considered myself agnostic, and had a time where I was on drugs and then off of drugs. And I was really just kind of frustrated. I got to that low point of, God, if you're real, like, I want to know, I want to know the real thing. But I don't want to just do religion. So I started to pray. And it was the first time I could really remember praying, God, if you're real, I want to see it. The stuff in the Bible is incredible. I want to see it. I want to be there. I want to do the stuff that's in the Bible. Fast forward about six months, and I was at a conference where Bill Johnson and Heidi Baker were ministering and started having open visions while I was there. By this point, I had surrendered my heart to the Lord, but was

3:16 still struggling with that belief. So, I'm having open visions and I'm closing my eyes. I still see him. I open them. I still see him. And I had never seen anything of the Spirit before. There's people that gold dust is appearing on people. I'm trying to like wrap my head around it all. And I've never heard somebody speak in tongues. And I now know what they were doing was a fire tunnel. And I'm going down this fire tunnel and I don't know what's happening. And, you know, people are doing all kinds of different things and they're drunk in the Spirit, which I didn't know what that was either. I just knew that when I went through this line, I got through it. I'm like, I feel drunk, but not in a bad way. I'm going to do that again. So, I went back for another drink. And the second time through, I think it was Heidi that was at the end. I closed my eyes. I was just focusing on God. And whoever it was at the end laid hands on me and I fell out and I couldn't control myself. I'm speaking in tongues. And my brain is going, you can't, you don't know what you're saying. And I could not physically stop my mouth from speaking in tongues. Yeah. So, that's how it happened for me. And then during that conference, and I kind of mixed up the order as to which that was at the end of the conference. I had two significant encounters that happened prior to that. There was one night in particular where I went home and I was just worshiping.

4:43 And I was sitting on the mantle by the fireplace, just closing my eyes and worship. And then next thing I know, I'm not by the fireplace anymore, I'm in heaven. And there's this light that's over my head and I'm looking at it and it's like a shower. This light, liquid light is just raining on me and I'm just laughing and laughing and laughing. And the substance was joy. It was like, you could fill up a glass of joy and just drink it. And it occurs to me, I don't know how I got here, but this is clearly heaven. If this is heaven, where's Jesus? And as soon as I thought, where's Jesus? I'm in a different room and I'll see this long dinner table and I see Jesus at the end and John and Paul and I knew all their names and more than anything else that I've ever wanted in life. Like if you could imagine all of your desires balled up together, I was just craving.

5:37 I just want to sit close to Jesus. More than anything else, I just want to be close to Jesus. I need to ask the Father, you know, that I could sit close to Jesus. And as soon as I thought it, I was in the throne room and I was not looking around. I was kneeling, I was face down. It was a holy fear that was just in the atmosphere, not demonic fear, just a fear of you don't do just whatever you think or whatever you want in this environment. And I asked God for it. And then after I did, I could kind of feel myself coming back down to my body. I don't really know if my body was with me or not. I came back and I was in my house in a different room. And I was saying, I was just saying the name Jesus over and over and over. Jesus, and for about five or six days, I could hear the Lord like I could hear a person. So, I would knew all kinds of stuff and I was having visions and hearing the Lord with clarity. And when all the encounters stopped, I was praying one day and I was praying for power. I'm like, God, I want more power. I want more power because I'd never experienced the power of God until this moment. And the Holy Spirit said, pray for character. And in my immaturity, I said, I don't want character, I want power.

6:53 Marshall, just being honest with where I was at and the Holy Spirit just kept putting this pressure. It was almost like the way I describe it is, it was like in the spirit, somebody was placing boulders on me of you have got to pray for character. And he actually mentioned a certain minister who said, you don't want to end up like him. You have to pray for character. Finally, I said, fine. I pray that I would only have as much power as my character can handle. Wow, that's a good prayer. A great prayer. Next day, all of the encounters stopped. Yeah, but I knew that it wasn't that God was withholding something from me. He gave me a taste of something I was meant to mature into. So, that was the beginning of my walk back 16 years ago now.

7:45 Wow. So, you began to pray for character, then what did the Lord do? Gave me a whole bunch of trials. You know, it's kind of important to really be honest about the journey. Yeah. I mean, we had a whole bunch of crazy things happen where I had people following me at one point. I had just a lot of different experiences over time. It kept feeling like I'd grow in a certain capacity in ministry and then I'd encounter more trials in that same area. And I realized it was just this refinement process that we all have to lean into when it comes to growing in the Lord. When we think we understand something, then subjecting ourselves to the Lord and to other authority and being willing to receive correction in the process, and that's how we grow.

8:40 It is. It absolutely is. We've been doing a number of podcasts about the importance of overcoming the flesh by the Spirit, you know, learning to walk in the Spirit so you don't fulfill the desires of the flesh. You know, we hammer on that a whole lot. So, it sounds like that's exactly what God was doing with you. Yeah. And I can't say that I've arrived at the place where, aha, you know, I never have to deal with the flesh. You know, there's times where you fast and you suppress it again or even as something that we mentioned briefly before of waiting on the Lord. That's something that that process of being still in His presence, for me anyway, it's a denial of the flesh. Your flesh wants always to do something. We tend to think of flesh in terms of sexual immorality or something along those lines of alcohol, I don't know, things like that, but it's not always that. Sometimes it's just activity. And that process of being still, it's where the flesh finally starts to subside. And how long it takes depends on where you're at in the flesh. If you've been fasting, it may take only a few minutes and you get still.

9:52 Yeah. And if not, you could spend a whole day just waiting in His presence, which isn't bad. It just there's that denial of self and letting the voice of the flesh get out of the way so that we can really focus on what the Lord is saying. Oh, that's so true. And to be honest, we're not very, I shouldn't say we're not very far, but we're not there in terms of, we've gone through a lot of maturing process. We've lived quite a lot more years than you have, but it's still a matter of making those choices every day and many times a day. You just have to roll it back and say, wait a minute, flesh, uh-uh, we're not going there. We're going to submit to the Holy Spirit.

10:35 One thing that has helped me, and I know it's the Holy Spirit that just did it. It wasn't that I thought about it or learned to do it, but the Holy Spirit started doing it in me, that when I would get some kind of accusation thoughts or thoughts that have no fruit, thoughts that are not from the Spirit, thoughts that are just fleshly, not like thoughts necessarily, but like self-accusation or accusing somebody else or whatever, instead of meditating on those thoughts or even fighting them, I found myself speaking in tongues. And it was like, speaking in tongues, it was like, oh, my spirit's saying, no, we're not going there.

11:17 Right. Yep. Absolutely. This idea of just stopping and being quiet is probably one of the hardest things for just active people in the ministry to just stop, stop being active, just hush. Right. Just be quiet. Yep. Yeah. It's a challenge. And really, this is what I've found is it's a little bit of a challenge on your identity, where if your identity is being drawn from your function in your ministry or your calling, when the Lord says stop and be still, it's like, oh, I got to do something. We feel like we have to do something to then earn a status with Him or being okay with Him instead of just being still and just being with Him.

12:02 Mm hmm. Well, I think that's still fleshly thinking. It's a fleshly bet that makes you think that you have to earn something somehow. Right. And you don't. We can do nothing without Him. Yeah. Yep. So, why try stuff without Him? Yeah. I'm with you. I don't know. But we do. Yeah. We do. So, tell us how the Lord really called you into the ministry. So, ever since I had that encounter, I really just wanted to, I wanted to be in ministry. And started off with growing in the prophetic. I would just get on Facebook. There's a little Facebook group of about 200 that now has, I think, 25,000 that I would just get on and prophesy over 10 strangers a day. And I wasn't trying to really even to develop a prophetic gift. I just wanted to know that what I heard was the Lord, was the Lord. And if this is an objective person, and I'm saying these are the things that I'm hearing from God, if they say, no, one, it's a stranger, so it doesn't hurt my feelings. And two, I'm saying, my feelings. And two is, it's, you know, you get that immediate feedback of this is God or it's not. So, but at the end of a week, you've prophesied over 70 people. And, you know, so it started on Facebook. And then at a certain point, a friend of mine said, you're starting to get a reputation as a prophet on Facebook. You should call some churches in the area and you should tell them that you're a prophet. And that's how the Lord, maybe that's how the Lord's gonna start your ministry. And I'd thought about it for a while. I was like, well,

13:35 I know one minister that started that way. And the Lord said, it would be better for you to humble yourself and I promote you at the right time than for you to promote yourself and I have to humble you. Yeah. Oh, you know, it's God when it sounds like that. Mm-hmm. Yeah. It's got that like, oh, you're right. That is much better. Yeah. On the fly, something from God, you know. Yeah, but it's done in such a way that there's wisdom in it. Right. It also takes that, okay, I have this desire to be in ministry. That's something the Lord put there. So, if He's giving me the desire, He has a plan to fulfill it and I don't know what it is. So, fast forward two years of waiting, essentially. The Lord had told me I needed to learn about deliverance and I went to a friend of mine's house church in Kansas City. And I walked into this room and at church, their leadership was all going to receive inner healing deliverance. And this little old lady who I'd never met said, you're the man from my dream.

14:33 And I said, what was your dream? You know, you don't know which way that's going. And she said, in the dream, you were leading me and my church through these double doors and performing surgery on us. And I said, well, where's your church? And her church was in Juarez, Mexico. So, you know, that was how the ministry actually started. She invited me. I went with that house church once and then the house church stopped meeting and me and the friend of mine that used to lead that church, we still go, we started going again about every three months. So, that's how Kingdom Awakening started was through the hosting pastor's dream. And the thing that I love about it is I can't take credit for it. I can't say I couldn't make that happen. It wasn't from my effort. It was the Lord did that. So, we tend to think of things in terms of, you know, our ministry and your ministry and really they're just different responsibilities, but it's all the Lord's ministry. And now I've had something, this is just something new that's exciting. And in the last year, this has happened to me twice, where somebody has come up to me and said, I've been ministering in, it's happened about India and once in the Philippines, where somebody's been ministering in these regions for a long period of time. I have 60 churches in India.

15:54 And the other one was there's hundreds of churches in the Philippines. The Lord gave me this nation, however many years ago. And the Lord told me that you're supposed to take up the responsibility for it. It's just fun because you can't make it happen. You don't get to take credit. You just say, yes, Lord, I'm going. So, it's just, it's fun. That's how things have been started and that's just how we're being led by the Lord. Beautiful. Beautiful. So, tell us, when we were talking earlier, you mentioned how you love prayer and you love intercession. What would you say about your prayer life that has fed into what you do in evangelism? Well, one is when you're interceding over either a specific trip or a place, you know, you start to build that spiritual connection there, where you become acquainted with, one, you get acquainted with where the church is at spiritually, you get acquainted with what kind of resistance they face. So, I feel like it kind of primes the pump for those trips. I can't say that I've done this every time, but I have a general practice of, especially if I'm doing any kind of crusade type evangelism, fasting is required beforehand, not while you're there, but beforehand, fasting and prayer so that you are prepared to confront some of those things that you're going to be dealing with when you're there. So, it's preparation.

17:24 It builds a unity in the spirit. And for me anyway, when I do missions, I generally feel like I'm not the main person. Even if I'm the person preaching, it's like you feel like you're stepping into the labors of somebody else. You know, the people that are the pastors that are there that are confronting these realities day in, day out, the intercessors that are there that are confronted with the realities of their culture and have to fight, you know, for family and depending on where it is, all the different obstacles. There's a unity that gets built in the spirit because I start to participate with their effort. And most of the time, you're really just the amen, right? You know, they're already hearing from the Lord and you hear the same thing, but because it comes from an outside voice, there's that recognition and that corporate faith that gets released of, this is the Lord. So, it's just fun to participate in.

18:18 Angela Brown I love that. I love that. You also mentioned to us that you've been doing some training in the nations. Tell us about that. David Yeah, so this is back in 2018. In one week, I had 3000 friend requests on Facebook. I didn't know what happened. I didn't know why. And it was mostly pastors and a lot of them in Africa, some of them in the Middle East. I was just like, this is too many people. Like, I don't know how to respond to all this. Like, what am I supposed to do, Lord? He said to plan a trip. So, I planned a trip to Uganda, to Tanzania, and to Kenya. And when I was in Uganda, I saw so many miracles. It was blind eyes and deaf ears and crippled people are getting up. But one of the things that stood out was, went to this kind of remote area with the pastor that was hosting me.

19:15 He said, well, we're going to meet with some of the local pastors before you speak at the conference. That's okay. And we spent what was close to three hours talking about why biblically you are not divorced just because you moved to a different city, and your wife is in one city and the pastor moves to a new city. Tanner Iskra So, I was like, how are we spending so much time on this one subject? There's got to be you guys have demons manifesting left and right and witches all over the place. And we're talking about why this, you know, just because you move, it doesn't mean you're divorced. And the hosting pastor explained to me, he said, these are some village believers and pastors. Most of them want to get a believer that has, you know, been a Christian for a while to just become the pastor, but they've never been trained. So, his idea, which I thought was a brilliant idea was to put some online training for pastors, just make it available online. They can look at it on their phone, just basic foundations of faith. Said, and once they've gone through your program, then when you do an evangelistic crusade, we'll have one of them come from, that have gone through your school and we'll plant them for planting the church in that area. So, we did that. I trained at a missionary school here in the Dallas-Fort Worth Metroplex. And I took the footage from that, put it online and made it available for the pastors. So, they went through the training course.

20:45 And I think we ended up with, it was a bunch, I forget how many, I want to say 30, 40 pastors that had gone through that training, the first wave of training. And now we have a plan for going back to Uganda. We're trying to plan a crusade event along the border of Uganda and Congo, which to try to get to the more unreached villages and then plant a church there because my heart is, I don't want to preach at a field where 15 other evangelists are preaching to the same crowd. I'd rather preach to 10 people that haven't heard the gospel than to 2,000 that have heard the story before. And I'm not knocking ministries that do that. I'm just, I think that there's times that we have a tendency to preach to the choir and we can over-emphasize the numbers of attendees and the media looks great. But I think we can do it in a way that's disingenuous, where we can make it look like all these salvations are happening when 50% of them were at church on the Sunday before. So, my heart is to get to the unreached when we do those.

21:51 Beautiful. I love your heart. That's fantastic. So, tell us a little bit about how you began experiencing miracles in your ministry. Yeah, obviously, the Lord told you to humble yourself and let Him work on your character. Then what happened? You know, obviously, you made some kind of a shift somehow. Yeah. So, at the time I was at Wellspring Church where Jack Deer was pastoring and he wrote, surprised by the voice of God, surprised by the power of the Spirit. That was where I was really trained and taught on the prophetic. From being there, I was just so hungry for really for miracles. I wouldn't say I'm any less hungry for miracles now. It's just, I feel like I have a more balanced approach to it where we can over-emphasize miracle, miracle, miracle and forget, hey, you're supposed to be doing this stuff for love, not just for the sake of seeing a miracle. Which was where I was coming from in the beginning.

22:47 But it wasn't enough for me to just do it when the church was open. So, I was on Facebook and that wasn't enough. And when I saw, there was a clip that happened at that conference where I got saved where the Bethel students were going out and praying for people. And I thought, well, if they can do it, I can do it. So, that's what I did. I just, for my lunch break, I would skip and go to the mall and just go pray for people and practice getting words of knowledge, practice praying for the sick and seeing people get healed. And I met another friend who was also doing it in a different place. We met at a healing conference and then he and I started going together. And then a group from a nearby college came and joined. And next thing you know, we had a group of probably 20 to 30 of us that were regularly going out and doing, it started off really just practicing the gifts in public. And then it became, okay, how do we share our faith with this? And then after we incorporated that, you know, a lot of us were going to some of the churches in the Dallas area and that started a couple of the evangelism ministries or the evangelism departments, I guess, at different churches in the Dallas, Fort Worth area. So, that was when I first started seeing some of those miracles that and deliverance was something that I was experiencing first in Mexico.

24:03 And it was, you know, sometimes when the Lord uses you despite your ignorance, it was one of those scenarios where Cody Purcell is the deliverance minister that he and I do a lot of stuff together in Mexico. And he really has a strong discernment gift where he can, he doesn't even need to see somebody. He can just pray for a second. He'll know what spirit it is, how strong it is, how long it's been there, which is super helpful. And when I went with him the first time to Mexico, and his mentor was up and they said, okay, so they're kind of prepping the team before we minister. They said, who's ready to lead a deliverance team? And nobody's responding.

24:49 And I was like, I'll figure it out. So, I just raised my hand. I had no idea what I was getting in for. And so, they get done preaching. The minister gets up, Dr. Reedy. He's here in Fort Worth and he starts rebuking the spirits of witchcraft. And he tells him, if you know, anybody here, if you start to feel anything when I'm rebuking witchcraft, I want you to come up and get prayer from the deliverance teams. And he starts rebuking witchcraft. I'm like, people really have this. Like, I have no understanding of it at the time. And most of the church stands up. They all have witchcraft. And this sweet little mom comes up to me and she says, my sisters and my mom and I all used to be in a coven and we were witches together. And I feel something when he was praying. And I'm like, oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah.

25:43 I'm like, I don't, you know, again, I have no training. I'm like, I'll figure it out. So, I just take her hands and I'm like, Lord, what do I do? And I feel, and this is actually the only time I've felt it like this, I feel the love of Jesus rising up within me. And it's like a light that comes out of my face. And as soon as I have this feeling, she falls out and she's sobbing and she's getting delivered. And I thought, hey, this deliverance thing, this isn't so hard. Like, you just need the love of Jesus to rise up and shoot out your face. And then people get delivered. And then the Lord had to humble me. So, the very next person was a little 14-year-old kid with the spirit of fear. And for the life of me, I could not get the thing out. And finally, the speaker came over and in about 10 seconds, he cast that demon out. I was like, all right, I still got some stuff to learn. So, that was my intro.

26:39 Wow. Wow. That's wild. And so, you got into the ministry of deliverance before you were seeing healings or was that kind of simultaneous? No, healing was probably first. That was because I would seen that at the mall and seen that when I was out praying for people. And then the prophetic was building a lot on Facebook and deliverance was learning how to cast out spirits. That was started off in Mexico and then practiced at the church that we were part of and then as the need arose for doing inner healing deliverance. And so, you just started praying for people and they just started getting healed? Yeah. Yeah.

27:19 Just that simple. Yeah. I would say that some of the more, the most significant miracles to me personally were when preaching the gospel. And I'll just share this story just because it still kind of messes with me where I'm learning how to preach and minister miracles. So, this is kind of my beginning of preaching the gospel. First time after I'm done preaching, I call people up and I just wanted to pray for people to be filled with the gospel. And the next day, thought, okay, I'm doing what I'm told. And the reason I hadn't been, the first time I had called out, first time I called out words of knowledge from the state, but nobody came up. Now, they told me later that people were in their homes were getting healed when I'm calling out words of knowledge, but they never came up to give the testimony.

28:20 So, the last night, the Lord said, call out the words of knowledge and bring them up on stage. So, I'm calling out words of knowledge and I said, there's somebody here you fell, you hit your head on concrete in the back of your head and you have pain in your neck in the back of your head right now and nobody's coming up. I said it again, nobody's coming up. Third time, and that up comes this lady with a bandage wrapped around her head and she's got her daughter with her, which I didn't call out a word for her daughter. And she said, yes, I was at a meeting the other day, I fell and hit my head on a curb and I've had pain in the back of my head ever since. But I also want you to pray for my daughter. And her daughter, the best way I could describe it is it looked like she had had a stroke where half of her face, the muscles weren't quite right. Her eye wasn't symmetrical, you know, it was just, and she wasn't making any eye contact.

29:11 So, I prayed for the mom, the mom falls out, but now I don't know what to pray for this girl. She just said, I want you to pray for my daughter. So, again, I'm not in this like, I'm a professional minister, I know what's going on phase. I just kind of put my hands over her whole head, which I'm sure was weird to her, but I'm like this. And I start to pray and I take my hands off. And after I took my hands off, I watched her face, her eye moved into perfect place, her muscles came into perfect alignment. And she looked at me and started laughing and I lost, I'm laughing. The worship leader who's supposed to be leading worship, he's not leading worship anymore. He's now giggling and laughing at the whole thing. And they told me later that she had autism. And one of the symptoms was she couldn't make eye contact. And the first thing that she did after she got healed was she looked in my eyes and laughed. So, that was- Wow, that's huge.

30:05 That was significant. That is so- That's all. That's just awesome. Yeah. Glory to God. I know. Thank you, Jesus. Tell us some more. We've seen, I think I've seen three different paralyzed people get up and walk. Once was a woman who had, I don't know all the different terms, but something was in her spine that had cut off stuff. So, she had no feeling. And she came in in a wheelchair for prayer and her daughter was with her. And it started off with, we're praying and she could barely move one of the toes on her feet. And she couldn't do that before. Okay. So, it's just barely wiggling. We're just going to keep praying. And it was probably 30, 45 minutes, one from wiggling the toe to moving the whole foot to moving her leg back and forth. And she got to walk out pushing the wheelchair that she came in on. She's pushing it out. And it was just so much fun. We've seen- Wow.

31:01 Blind eyes. We've seen open deaf ears. It was one of those things that taught me the importance. We can kind of forget it that the gospel is the power of God. The signs and wonders follow the preaching of the gospel. He's always going to confirm his word. And one of those questions of why do we see more miracles when we do mission trips or overseas and things like that? I think we're preaching the gospel. The gospel is the power of God. And when we're here, we are not always preaching the gospel. Yeah. So, do you still go out on the streets like you did at the first? Not like I did at first. At first, I would say I was so excited by the miracles that not all of my motives were to love people. It was, you know, I just wanted to see miracles.

31:51 And now I get to go, you know, I spent a period of time with a local church here as the director of evangelism and teaching other people how to go out and to move in signs and wonders and and have the gifts be the thing that bypass some of the arguments and the rational mind can kind of get in the way of hearing the gospel. But if you have a word of knowledge, you bypass all of those arguments and now they're listening. So, I did that for a few years. And now with my children and my daughter who is 10 and has not been on a mission trip and has not been, I haven't given her any kind of training. She just said, I want to go pray for people. Okay. So, when we do daddy dates, we make sure we pray for people. And we just started this year, we take sticky notes, which my wife is not a huge fan of this. And we take sticky notes and in the wall in our dining room, there's no decorations on the wall. So, anybody that we pray for, we write their name and what we prayed for them for and stick it on the wall. So, that is at the end of the year, which is not, does not go with the decor at all. But the idea is by the end of the year, we're going to have a wall of people that we've prayed for that we can continue to pray for.

33:01 Oh, that's beautiful. That is beautiful. So, you're training up your children in the way that they should go. That's beautiful. That's beautiful. Well, Jeff, would you pray for our listeners, just as the Holy Spirit leads you? Absolutely. Heavenly Father would just come before you right now. I thank you for everyone that is listening to this podcast. When I pray for their hearts, I pray for their hearts to open up to you even more. Father, I pray that they'd be so compelled by love that the idea of sharing their faith, that they would be driven by love, their love for you first and foremost. God, I pray that you would take every listener into a deeper and deeper relationship with you to hear your voice, to know your heart, to know your will. God, I pray that you would use them in powerful ways with signs and wonders following after their lives as they continue to share the truth about who you are. Jesus, I pray that you would anoint each one, each one with special encounters with you. Lord, give them dreams, give them visions, give them direction. Lord, for the ministry that you call them to, for the things that you've called them uniquely and specifically into, I bless them and I pray your grace and your favor over each one. In Jesus' name, amen. Amen.

34:32 Wow, that was beautiful. So, Jeff, we know that you have a website. Can you tell us what that is? It's KingdomAwaken.org or KingdomAwaken.com. Okay. And you've written a book. Tell us about your book. I have. So, the book is the Tactical Field Manual for the Army of God. And it actually started with, you can barely see it, this big red book back here. That book is a secular military history book. I walked into Barnes and Noble one day and the Lord said, I want you to study military history. And I thought, that's not really my thing. I said, but if there's a title of a book that stands out in the military section, I'll know it's you if it has some kind of prophetic meaning.

35:18 And I saw that book and the book is called Invisible Armies. And then I'm still kind of in that place where I'm like, Lord, what does this have to do with you and the kingdom? And I had a friend with me. I said, give me a number between one and 500. And I heard 23. She said 23. And I turned to page 23. And page 23 of a secular military history book is talking about the fulfillment of Jesus' prophecy for the tearing down in Jerusalem of the temple. So, it's a fulfillment of prophecy. And so, the Lord took me on this journey of understanding that our identity is, we understand our identity as sons and daughters, but in many ways, we don't understand our identity as soldiers. And that that's not something that we put on and take off. It's part of who we are. That's the first. I'm actually working on the second book on leadership for the army of the Lord.

36:17 wonderful. Wow, that sounds great. And you've got a podcast too. Tell us about your podcast. Just started it. I just had these amazing guests on just a few minutes ago. I was blessed to have you both on the podcast. Yeah, it's the Kingdom Awakening podcast. You can find it on Spotify and YouTube and Apple podcasts. And I'm just asking people questions and learning from the way that the Lord has led them and in the same way as y'all are with global outpouring. Well, we're looking forward to partnering with you in some things in the future. I believe God's going to do some things that one of the things that just gets into my heart when we begin to build a relationship is knowing that it's a relationship that's not just for a moment.

37:06 It's not just for here and now, for time, it's for return. So I can see that God is going to do some things with Kingdom Awakening and global outpouring. And you told us something really amazing when you were getting the name for your organization, you were praying into it back in what year? This would have been 2012. Okay, what happened? We were looking for a name and looking at different domains and trying to come up with names. And one of the potential names that was on the list for the name of the ministry was global outpouring. That just, that just was, you know, you know, you can tell that this is, there's a connection here. And, you know, you got to us a few days ago and said, I was praying and the Lord brought you to my mind for a podcast. So that's how we got started doing your podcast first. And I said, well, let us do a podcast with you too. So we're looking forward to seeing what else the Lord has for us to do together in the future.

38:10 It's fun when he's over it, isn't it? Absolutely. Absolutely. He's got plans that if we even had an inkling of what they were, we'd probably go crazy. That's right. Amen. Thank you so much for being with us today. Thank you for having me. All right. We'll see what happens in the plan. Amen. God bless y'all. God bless you too. If you enjoyed today's podcast, please subscribe, rate and review this podcast on Apple podcasts or wherever you listen to podcasts. Your review helps the podcasting platform suggest this podcast to other listeners who are also looking for a great move of the Holy Spirit. Check out our website at globaloutpouring.org to find out more information, read our blogs, connect with us and donate. You can also browse our web store for life changing anointed books. Until next time, this is Sharon Buss and I'm Philip Buss.

39:12 God bless you with this overwhelming loving presence.