“I DON'T THINK SO!” — Jesus Rescued Me From Hell | Camille Gent's Testimony Part 1 (339)

0:00 And they were clawing at my skin, and I could literally see my tendons and muscles being ripped out of me. And every time I'd go back, I'd be all healed so they could do it again. I hear this voice on the right, and he's saying, just get her down here. She'll never know she doesn't belong. God promises in Joel 2 .28 to pour out His Spirit on all humanity. Welcome to global outpouring. Were we content for that promised outpouring? Were we equipped for that outpouring? so that we may engage in that very outpouring. I'm Philip Buss. And I'm Sharon Buss. Welcome to the podcast today. We have a special guest, Camille Gent, who has an amazing testimony. You've heard of these NDEs. We had Steve Kong with us recently talking about his trip to hell and a visit to heaven. And Camille also has had both of those. And this is such a big story that we're going to take two episodes to tell it. So this is part one, and you're going to love this message because, you know, she's just so real and tells it like it is. And you'll be so blessed by this amazing story. Thank you so much for joining us. We are just delighted that you're with us.

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2:07 We love to hear feedback from you. If you want to email us at feedback at globaloutpouring .org or fill out the feedback form on that page. We love to hear from people and we love the nations. And we're reaching out to the nations. So if you want to help us to reach the nations, we would be so grateful if you would push that donation button and give us whatever it is the Holy Spirit is leading you to do. This is not by compulsion. We don't ask for any money by compulsion, but we ask you to be compelled by the Holy Spirit and obey the Holy Spirit into what He wants you to do. Just obey God. Just obey God. Well, Camille Gent, it is such a delight to have you with us on the Global Outpouring Podcast. We have been looking forward to this ever since we met you at the Life After Conference in September. And we're really excited to hear you tell your story.

3:03 Thank you. I'm so excited to be here. Thank you. It's good. I have it in my heart that these relationships that we begin on the planet here are for eternity. especially when we're connecting with somebody who's had a real taste of eternity like you have. And we had Steve Kang on with us recently, and so we met him at the same conference, and he had mostly the story of hell, and you had a little taste of that too. But let's go back and get some background. How did you grow up? How were you raised? Were you raised in a Christian home? Sure. So I was raised in Yakima, Washington, which is far eastern Washington, and I'd been raised going to church. So I was very, very thankful for that because that ultimately was what pulled me back into my relationship with the Lord. I had walked away as a teenager, but then I came to a place in my late 20s where I was just disgusted with myself. I'd lost a marriage due to adultery, and I fell to my knees one night. And I asked the Lord, I remembered in Sunday school, I remember them saying that he could transform you. And I don't know why, but that was the one thing I remembered from my youth being there. And I said, yeah, it was so beautiful. And so I'm on my knees crying to the Lord. And I said, I don't even know if you're real. I don't know if this is true. But I remember that you said you could change me from the inside out. And I said, I

4:34 need that. because I was a disgusting person. And he did. Little known to me, it worked. And my life slowly started getting better and better. But I struggled with boys, really, you know, like romantic relationships, selling myself short a lot and thinking I always needed someone, you know. And so I settled a lot, and I also compromised my faith. So I was pretty much lukewarm until I got the diagnosis in 2012. What diagnosis was that? So in 2012, I had noticed that I was swelling really, really bad. And I had open heart when I was six weeks old, open heart surgery. So I automatically went to my heart thinking something was wrong. So I went to the doctor. They did some tests and they found out that I had fourth stage heart failure with endocarditis and gave me a year to live without a heart transplant.

5:32 How old were you again? Then I was 38 years old. 38. Wow. What a diagnosis. That's life changing. What had happened is I went home and I was so scared, as you can imagine. I was so scared and I just started praying to God and talking to him. And he spoke to me as clear as we're speaking now and said, pray like you never have before. You don't want someone else's heart. And that was stunning to me. Yeah, that was stunning. That is amazing. Yeah, we could go down a rabbit trail on that one real easily. There's something called cellular memory. And it's a real thing.

6:13 And that's what happens with transplants. A lot of people's personalities change, all kinds of different things. So I knew when he said that, that I had to get serious real quick. As far as my faith, my walk, my everything. I thought, honestly, I was going to die because I had seen angels following me. around for several months. I could look at someone and see an aura around them. And yeah, it kind of scared me. I was able to do that a couple weeks ago when my husband and I were driving back from me speaking in San Francisco. And it scared me because I thought, oh, I hope nothing's wrong with me. But it went away. Yeah. Now that's an interesting thing because we hear about that kind of thing from the dark side. But everything that's on the dark side is a counterfeit of what's on the real side.

7:06 So just because you can see those things, you know, if you're practicing the wrong kind of arts, that doesn't mean that seeing lights and colors around people is all bad. You know, that it comes originally from our father's DNA in us, enabling us to see things in the spirit, because that's a spirit, Ariel. Yes, exactly. You'll see a lot of paintings with Jesus that have yellow auras around it. Yes, of course. And that's how people had seen him as well when he was on earth. Like Pilate, there's some letters from Pilate that he had written describing Jesus when he was here on earth. And it said he always carried this yellow aura around him when he would speak. Really? Yeah, and it's a healing aura as well. Yeah. It's really incredible. So I just drew near to God. It was funny. I always thought a few beers or, you know, me drinking occasionally was not that big a deal until I found out I was going to die. And that was one of the very first things I gave up. was any kind of extra sin like that. Any kind of lifestyle of sin, like 1 Corinthians 6, 9, and 10 talk about. The lifestyles of sin are what get you. And so I gave up that. And then it was around August of 2012, all this happened.

8:29 And then sure enough, March of 2013, I'm at home. And I had been swollen for all the time. I was really swollen anymore. But then my body became so sore that it was similar to a flu. So I thought, I must just have a flu. But on the third day, I remember not being able to even go potty. And I had to use a pot by my recliner because that was all I could move. And so I went and I like would scoot down to go potty real quick. And as I was looking down, I saw it was a straight stream of blood. And yeah, yeah, that scared me. And I always knew that that's what happened, what triggered all my strokes. Because as soon as I saw that, I immediately went into strokes.

9:20 And had I not known Jesus, my last words would have been call 911. And because it was that fast. And I've always told people that I used to say to myself, because I always knew God was real. I knew that from an incident. I even had his baby. So I knew God was real, but I knew I wasn't following him. I would tell myself, I'll just wait till I'm dying. And once I know I'm dying, then I'll believe, you know, because I always believed. Even the demons believe and tremble. Sure. Yeah. So I said, I'll just cry out to him and I'll mean it because I'm going to be scared to death, you know. And so I said, I'll just cry out to him. And then he'll forgive me. I never had that opportunity. And many, many, many millions of people will never have that opportunity.

10:06 You're done. I looked up at what is now my ex -husband due to abuse and addiction. I looked up at him and I said, call 911. And I immediately started descending. But first of all, I want to tell everybody listening to this that I only experienced hell because the father is sovereign. He is good. He knew that he was sending me back here to tell people the truth. He knew I was always outgoing. He knew I would be. crazy enough to do it. He knew I would tell everybody I could possible about this experience. So he allowed me to see hell. And so I started descending immediately.

10:48 And every single nightmare I ever had unspoken on earth, like gang assault, my husband cheating on me. And then it was a lot of assault. Everything happened on the way to hell. I'd be thrown in and out of realms. But in between that, I'd be, I remember calling it blacker than black after I could eventually speak again. But I would say I was in blacker than black. And then I found that later to be the outer darkness. So I'd be in the outer darkness and then they would, I would just be thrust into a realm, be tortured, tormented. But God in his. Divine love for us and mercy. He actually didn't let me feel the full level of pain that I should have. I knew because I could never close my eyes. So all my senses were extremely heightened. So I knew that my pain should have been much, much greater.

11:45 So you see everything that happens to you in hell. You don't get to go to sleep or pass out, but I would actually see them drug me. I would pass out and then I would come above my body just to watch what they would do to my body. The most horrible, I had PTSD for years and actually went to counseling for that as well. And then when they would be done with me, this happened three times, when they would be done, they would throw me back like I would just get suctioned out. And I'd be falling. And as I'm falling, I had six demons on each side. I always knew the number. You know things instinctively. So I knew the number. And they were clawing at my skin. And I could literally see my tendons and muscles being ripped out of me. And every time I'd go back, I'd be all healed so they could do it again. And as they're clawing at me, I hear this voice on the right. And he's saying, just get her down here. She'll never know she doesn't belong. And what was crazy, yeah. And what was crazy was that it totally escaped me that I was saved on earth. And then the other thing that's even scarier to me was that I believed I deserved it. I knew I deserved it because of my sin. I knew. So I didn't even question that I deserved it. And the Lord later senses told me that's because I wanted you to experience what someone who does not know me experiences.

13:14 And so, yeah. So Satan would be whispering that I couldn't see him at that point. Got thrown into the second room. Horrific. I was being chased and being tried to my ex. Actually, they would. form themselves as people that you knew on Earth for basis of torment. And they were no other way I've ever been able to explain it except for holographic realms. And so, yeah, so they would look exactly like people I knew on Earth. Like, for example, the first realm, it was one of my greatest, you know, closest relatives that sold me to this couple that ended up using me in trafficking. In real life? But not in real life. But it would be like real life. It would be more real than we're sitting here right now.

14:06 So they imitate what we know on earth to torture, to bring the torment higher. Yeah, it is crazy. Did you have like your life passing before your eyes? You know, when a lot of people, they say, I saw my life pass before my eyes. Did you have that too? I did in heaven. Yeah, and I'll explain that. Yeah, I actually have it written down. That's funny. Yeah. Oh, no problem. That's a great question, though. And I did. I had an amazing life review. Okay. I want to go back for just a second, if you don't mind. When I heard you say this part about them clawing your flesh when you were in this hell realm, it reminded me of what Dean Braxton said. that he saw Jesus go through. When he was beaten, he used the word that, he used the expression that he had been shredded. Shredded, yeah. Wow. And when you said that, that this is part of the torment of hell, you know, we know that Jesus died our death for us. But it... it made me realize that he took our shredding for us as well. He was shredded by this horrific beating that he took the torment.

15:28 I mean, his physical tormentors did to his physical body all the stuff that these demons are doing in hell. Yeah, and I've heard a number of times when someone had this experience, it's like their flesh would be ripped and everything. But you're the first one I've heard that would say that it was like healed and then they would do it all over again. Yeah, I've heard that before. I have. Yeah, that's very common, actually. Yeah. That they do that so they can continue doing it. And it will heal all of eternity if you're in hell. It will go back together so they can do it again. I don't know what the kind of spirit body you have there, but it doesn't die. It can't die. Yeah. Wow. So then what happened? Yes. In the second realm, same thing happens. They're throwing grenades at me and trying to blow me up. And I'm being protected by these little, I knew the word Vietnam, like it looked like Vietnam to me. Like the, just everything, like the trees that, you know, like I'm. I've not been there, but I've studied it and it looked, I don't know why that was what came to my head is I'm in Vietnam. Um, but it might've been because the bombs, I'm not sure, but I remember thinking that because that's how real everything was.

16:49 It was, and you don't. think, oh, I got to wake up. That's the thing too, is that with dreams, even last night, I had a dream. I get dreams. I have three interviews this week. So I get a lot of spiritual warfare with that. And so I'll have them kind of torment me so I can, but I'll rebuke it in the dreams and I'll wake up and say, I rebuke you in the name of Jesus. Then I'll go back to sleep like a little baby. I didn't think anything was not 150 million percent real. I thought that it was really happening that I needed to escape. But the second time I was able to escape, they love that too. It adds to the torment. So anything that can add to your torment, they love. So I thought I would escape and then all of a sudden back and then I'm falling again, being torn apart. Satan's still whispering, just get her down here. She'll never know she doesn't belong, which is always crazy to me. And yeah, and then. Third realm, way worse than anything.

17:47 Every time, it was way worse. So the torment, yeah. So that one, I was, I don't know how detailed I should get into that. I think it's important to give as much detail as you can without, like, if there's children listening, you know, let's keep it where it's safe for that. Okay, good. Perfect. Okay, I can do that. Okay, so I was, I was. basically tied to a bed with rope and assaulted by 12. I know them to be demons because I believe they were the 12 that were tormenting me in the outer darkness, but they had the faces of men. They put on men. And then I also saw a creature to the right, like ordering them.

18:33 And this creature, gosh, I'm trying to see, Lord, forgive me if I'm not supposed to say this, but it's a reptilian creature. And it was ordering them and he was. I would say anywhere from, he's probably around 12 feet tall. I'm not sure exactly, but he was humongous. He was gray though. I always thought that was weird because you see reptiles on earth and they're green. And the Lord said, because he had no blood. That's great. Yeah. Well, they had no life. The life was taken out of them when they were expelled from heaven. Yes, yes. So they're like walking dead, really. Yeah, so he was gray. Yeah, it was really weird. But he would boss them. But I heard another girl next door to me, and I could see the house. I can see the house right now. It's a little white house, had two bedrooms, tiny, tiny house. And I would hear this girl next door to me, who I still believe is in hell, be tormented by the same 12 when they were not with me. They always went in a group. So they would torment me, go to her, and her screams, I said this a couple days ago, I don't know what was worse, was her screams or mine, because you have a scream within you that when you are in severe pain or torment that you probably don't even know you have. I hope you don't at least. I heard my scream when I lost my left leg because of sepsis is what happened, what was killing me actually, was sepsis.

20:02 Oh, wow. I killed my leg. It caused it to become completely black. And I would wake up from my comas. I had three comas, in and out of three. And I would wake up from them. The pain was so bad. During the first one is how I lost it. And I would grab my leg. But those screams, I will never, ever forget. And I never want to hear myself scream like that. So they tormented me. All of a sudden, they were done with me. I escaped again and thought, oh, I'm escaping. You know how happy, you know, like you don't even feel ever happiness or joy, but you feel like you can have a semblance of relief. And so I thought, oh, okay, I'm going. And I started running. And as soon as I started running, I went off a cliff and I started falling again. Yeah. And then they're tearing me apart. And then I hear Satan, but I knew because I could feel he had such a presence of evil that I could feel him, you know, getting closer. And I remember going, no, no, I can't look. I can't because the evil was that horrible that you don't even want to look at him, but you have to look at everything. And as he's doing that, he, I'm sorry, it just kind of gets me stuck back there sometimes. But as he's saying that, I come face to face with him. And he had this body of a lamb of a sheep, a big, huge body,

21:32 like humongous. And he had slime throughout. He had, well, it was blacker than black, even the wool that it stood out from the outer darkness, which is. Like a whole color of its own in blackness. It's not even something I can say, oh, I saw that there. No, it's way different. It's alive. It's evil. Just like Exodus says, it's a darkness that can be felt. But Satan stuck out from even that. And he had that. And then he had a head that looked like a wolf. And he had eyes that were bread beams. And I've always said, cause this was 2013 and I always said like technology, like they look like technology to me. And so I've always been very skeptical of everything, you know, like AI and where we're going that way because of that. Yeah. Yeah. So he is still whispering that and I'm continuing to fall. And I remember saying the last words I said in hell was, I guess I'm going to hell now. and right because I knew that that was just the way like I said and as soon as I said that this feeling like this being comes walking above us and I remember thinking that power knowing that power was more powerful than anything I ever have felt in my entire life so we and me and the demons and Satan all go to look for that power but I knew because of the strength of that power I

23:04 wanted to see, because demons and Satan seem so incredibly strong up until that point. Until that point. Amen. Until that point. Because you have no free will in hell either. People think, I'm going to run. I'm going to do this or that. No, you're not. You're doing whatever they want you to do. And so when something that came upon us that was stronger than them, then we all just went. And then I looked down to see where the demons and Satan were because of that power and they were gone. And he walks right above us. He puts his hands, he crosses his hands in front of him and puts a wide stance and he's looking below and he says, I don't think so. He just looks down and he shakes his head and he goes, I don't think so because I was his. Amen. I was his. And I love that he fulfilled every promise the word gives because it says he will rescue me from the grave. I was saying all these promises before I died. I would walk around. I read every single psalm in my house. And when you read those psalms and read that he will rescue you from the grave, what good am I if I go down to the pit? Can a soul praise you if they're down in the pit? I reminded God of all those promises and claimed them over my life. And that's the only reason I know that I am back here, that I'm back here. Yeah. Obviously, all starting with my acceptance of Jesus Christ. Yes. So he says, I don't think so. I'm still looking up

24:36 going, oh, my gosh, and not knowing what's going on. Wow. Because torture too is like, people are like, did you think of anything? Did you, you know, why didn't you think of the Lord? Why did you not think of your family or anything? You don't, I didn't, at least. I know there's lots of people that have, because God is bringing this to people to warn them before it's too late. But because we are in the end days, but I had that kind of torment. You don't think about anything but escaping. You don't think about, yeah, that's it. And then you even give up with that. Like when I was in the outer darkness, I didn't even try. I just knew that they were way more powerful than me. And so he says, I don't think so. I love Isaiah 41 10. Fear not for I am with thee.

25:21 I will uphold thee with my right hand of righteousness. He took his right hand. And I've always known this is not a coincidence. And he took his right hand and he reached down into Sheol and grabbed me out. He pulls me out. I'm like laying back and he's picking me up. And I remember going all the way back up into my body. And then I'm in my body and he had disappeared. Yeah. So then I get to start on heaven. Oh, wow. So immediately you were in your body and then you immediately went to heaven? Yep. So I was in my body. Interesting. You had a little, a little stopover. And I even asked people, I was like, was I awake at all?

26:09 And they're like, no, you are done. You, my mom even has a picture of when my spirit was out of my body in my coma. Yeah. You, I looked like I was dead. And because I was basically, I hadn't died yet. I went to heaven and hell during my comas, my first coma. Yeah, so I went back into my body. So I'm going, what's going on? And then I heard all the beeping. And I remember saying, oh, yeah, I'm in the hospital. As soon as I said that, and I verified even the tiles at the ceiling at Oregon Health and Science University in Portland, Oregon, all the tiles, no joke, turned to clouds. And that's why I asked if I was awake, because it was so. It was so like I could see the tiles.

26:53 So I had to have been awake, right? But they're like, no, you are never awake. So all the tiles turned to clouds, like the poofy, beautiful clouds that we miss a lot anymore, I've noticed. But they all turned to clouds. And as I'm just looking at this, trying to take, you just try to take in half this stuff is mind blowing, you know, let alone it took me 13 years, really 10 years because it's been three years. since my first video, but just to process it. So the ceiling turned to clouds. Then that same right hand came through and grabbed me out of my body. And my spirit was completely clear at that time. But as soon as he took me out of my body, the first thing that hit me was eternity, realizing what eternity is. And it scared the bejeebers out of me. I remember thinking, you can't even conceptualize eternity in our human bodies with what we know of time. But in your heavenly body, you completely understand it. And it scares you to death if you're, you know, you're pretty much already dead. But yeah, it scares the bejeebers out of you. And so just soaking that in. And then I knew that whoever was holding me, I said, I had all this control over myself on earth. But wherever this being wants me to go, I'm going. And as soon as I said that, he takes me. And someone said this the other day about being an arrow.

28:23 But he takes me like an arrow. And he goes like that. And he goes and shoots me upwards. And when he shoots me upwards, my hands like fly to in front of myself. And I had an angel on each side just swoop up underneath me. And they each cusp one little part of my elbow here. And we go flying. And they were so tall. I never saw their faces. But I always tried to because they were so magnificent. Like, who does that? You're still your same personality. You're just going, oh, my gosh. Like, you just always think of all these. I had all this vision when I was young that I'm going to just ride a chariot and eat grapes. I don't know why grapes. I don't know. But I had this total vision of what heaven, going to heaven was going to look like. And then all of a sudden, I'm just, I'm flying, seeing planets go by. And I'm like, hey, you know, because I love outer space. I've always been fascinated by God with it. But I was just going so fast, but I'd see planets and stars, and I was just flying. But I saw their robes, and so that's always how I've known who they are as well. They had these brilliant white robes that shone like a star. gold crusted lining. And, and, you know, like this has a side, you know, it was all gold, solid gold though. Not like line and not even coated. Yeah. And, but they were so tall. I couldn't see their faces. And this is something God has

29:53 spoke to me about recently. He says, pay attention to how the demons that came to take you to hell looked compared to the ones I sent for my saints for the, to the angels that I sent for my saints. how massive and brilliant and beautiful. And you knew they were the best of the best of God's kingdom that came for his saints. But he sent the lowest little, they were green and they stretched their whole bodies because they were tiny. But then he sent the lowest of the low, the evil one to take his. And I just, and the Lord said, it's because of your value. That's how much you mean to me compared to what you mean to him.

30:33 And that should really. I pray that speaks to somebody right now of your value with Jesus Christ. Yes. I love you, Lord. I love you. Thank you, Jesus. We come upon this city and this city is just shining gold. I love because my brother, Dean Braxton, he's one of my mentors. I love him so much. He talks about the color. He's like, it's not white because I always thought that too. I was like, it's not white, it's gold. So it's a gold bright. brilliant city and you're coming upon it and it shine you know it looked it reminded me of like when you see pictures of new jerusalem or something yeah yeah that's what it reminded me of so as i'm seeing this the angels dropped me off when they dropped me off i go to look for them to see if i can see them again and uh and they were gone they were just just gone And so I start ascending and I knew when I was ascending that everything about me was transforming. And I still to this day believe that's why I was healed. So real quick, I had full organ shutdown, failure, everything, even encephalitis of my brain. I had at least two brain aneurysms. I had so many strokes, they stopped counting. They literally put a massive amount. on my chart. And then I was in and out of three comas. First one, septic shock. Second one, respiratory failure. Third one was no blood pressure. That's when they estimated I died because they had to resuscitate me with water, with fluids

32:05 for that. So I had all this happen and I was supposed to be a vegetable. I did lose my left leg and my right toes, but you can see me and what you guys saw me. Yeah. You can't even tell. Like I literally, yeah, I literally have to show people and lift up my leg because they don't believe I lost my leg. That's all God too. Because I told him, I asked him to teach me to walk so I didn't look like a victim. And he did. Good for you. Wow, that's a great prayer. Yeah, I know, right? Yeah, and he did it. Even better, you know, he did it. Yeah, so I transformed completely and then I get to the floor in heaven that this magnificent pearl ivory Amazing tile. It looked like tiles on the floor And I just do this wide stance because I'm scared to death and I don't know what just happened. And I just take myself, because see, I didn't know much of the word.

33:03 That's what's funny is I now believe, I don't believe any of us are supposed to be out of the word necessarily, but I do believe he kind of. kept some things back from me on purpose because I would literally set the, when I found out I was dying, I would set my alarm for five minutes a day because I had the hardest time concentrating on the Word. So I would just read it for five, maybe 10, 15 minutes, but never anything I had experienced because I hadn't got there. So, yeah, so it was never anything I could have known. You know, that's a point that a lot of naysayers have this idea that people who have these near -death experiences are experiencing something that they expect to experience. Yeah, I think that's so funny. But obviously, you didn't expect to experience hell. No, obviously, yeah. And because you didn't really know the word, you saw things there that you... didn't find out were in the Word until you got back? Lots of things. It took me two years. My book's at my editor now, but it took me two years just to write my book because there's so much scripture in it. that I had no idea existed. And as I'm writing, he's showing me this because I'm going to talk about me walking with the father. And I said, but that's impossible because anyone who sees his face shall live or cannot live.

34:25 And he said, well, as I'm writing the book, he said, well, read this. Then why this happened? And he said, and Moses met with me in the tenant or him in the tenant meeting and spoke to him as with a face to face as with a friend. He said, well, there you go. So the whole time God's speaking to me during this book. and still is as I'm finishing it. Beautiful. Yeah, yeah. So things I would have never possibly known. So I'm going, I start going, I just pull my hands out and I'm like, what's going on? Where am I? And then I hear the father's voice for the very first time. And he says, you no longer have to fear. And I asked him since, I said, why did you say that? Because you tell us we don't have to fear now. So see, I questioned everything I heard, saw, everything.

35:10 And went to the Lord about it. And he said, that's because you just came from hell. And I said, oh, okay, that makes sense. All there is is fear. And so, yeah, so I was just freaked out. And he said, you no longer have to fear. And then as soon as he said that, this is how the Holy Spirit came to me. And I wasn't able to explain a lot of things at the Life After Conference. So this is exciting. Yeah, I'm liking all the details. Yeah, yeah, yeah. As he would speak, so he would speak and he would give announcements throughout the day. I thought it was so amazing because every time he would speak, the father from his throne, as he would give announcements, the angels would all stand at what I found out, didn't know then, but what I found out to be parade rest. So they would put their arms behind their hands, stand at attention and their feet wide stance. And I remember being able to describe it perfectly when I came back and they're like, that's parade rest. Yeah. And so, but when he would speak, the Holy Spirit ran through you.

36:13 So, and because I asked him, I said, I saw Jesus. I saw you. Why did I not meet the Holy Spirit? Because there's, it's a triune God. And he said, you did. And I said, well, how? And he goes, study the Holy Spirit. And so I studied him. Yep. And he said, how is he represented as well? And I said, through water. Water's a big way he's represented. And he said, and when I spoke, what did you feel? And I said, it was waterfalls. It was waterfalls. So it would go from top of your head, and it'd go, and it energized you. It gave you total joy, peace, comfort, even more. Like you get to heaven, you don't think you can experience any more of this stuff until he speaks, until he speaks. And he does it all throughout the day. Wow. And he does it to all his people.

37:03 Isn't his voice like many waters, the sound of many waters? So the sound is actually going through you, right? The Holy Spirit. Yeah. That's the Holy Spirit being sent forth. And that's one of the things that Dean says as well. He says, I see the Father, I see the Son, where's the Holy Spirit? And the Lord said, He's inside of you. Oh, yeah, yeah, absolutely. Yeah, so He was in me, and it would be activated by the Father. Sweet. Yeah, isn't that incredible? I love that. Boom. You know, that just blows my mind. Because I still saw like this much of what we'll see, you know? Oh, sure. So he would speak. So I got all this. And so after he said, you no longer have to fear, that went through me. I felt immediately.

37:49 I felt all this perfection, all this excitement and joy. And I've always had heart problems throughout my life. So I felt so much energy. I pray all the time for that energy, you know? Wow. And so that's why it's so powerful. To pray on earth as it is in heaven. Yes. On earth. That's why I loved when I love Linda and John Thomas so much. They're so sweet. Yes. And I love that they named their conference that. I knew immediately because of Dean, you know, connecting us. But especially when I saw that, I was like, I say that every day because of what I saw there. I want it here. I need it here. As he did that, as he did that, all that feeling came over me.

38:36 And then I heard the second thing, and this is still without seeing him yet. He said, you have a form and it is perfect. And then I go, I'm so excited. And I don't know why I could see you doing that, Phillip. I could see you going, oh my gosh. So I just screamed and I was like, I couldn't believe it. And I started running in place just to feel my energy. And as soon as I started running in place, my feet went above the ground. They go like that. And then they went, I ran around heaven's gates and I was able to, I wasn't able to count for a long time, but I could draw before I could count after I returned.

39:16 So I put the lines that I saw because I wanted to know how many times I went around Heaven's Gates. And then I went back and said, one, two, three, four. So I went around Heaven's Gates four times. Wow. And then, but this is where I tell people things get a little weird sometimes because there's no time. There's absolutely no time there. So explaining how things go in a chronological order was impossible for me. So it kind of all seemed like it happened at once, but separate. It all seemed like it was fast, but it would last me for eternity, you know, because it felt like I was there like two minutes, whereas hell felt like forever, obviously. But I got so much out of it that I'm still taking things and like the Holy Spirit, like understanding them because it's so big, so huge. But yeah, so I'm running around. Then I look when he told me I had a four minute is perfect. I remember looking around, and one of the first things that caught my eye, though, was I looked to my right, and I see this massive white lion. Back of me.

40:23 That's not it. I am going to get it made, though. But this massive white lion, and it was so huge and beautiful. It was white fur, but I always came back, and one of the first things I said was the tips appeared to be drenched in blood. matches christ's robe when he returns it says that he'll be wearing a white robe with the tips drenched in blood and revelation but he had eyes of fire and i remember looking at this lion thinking i could live in those eyes i think it's because they're all consuming because it feels like it would envelop you, like you could dive into those eyes. And I remember saying, I can dive, I could go into those eyes and be happy forever, but who is this sitting next to him? And it was the father himself, the Ancient of Days, is what I've always called him, because he looked like Daniel described. He was huge, first of all.

41:22 I sensed when I came back, found out his foot was seven feet, seven feet long was the father's foot. Just long. So somebody estimated that in the last couple of days with me. And that meant that he's about 50 feet tall. Wow. Huge, huge. Yeah. Just in that moment. Yes. Right. Right. He could be bigger or smaller or whatever in any moment. But that's what you saw. I totally understand. Yeah. No, that's very true. Yeah. Cause I walked with him later too. And he was huge, but he was still realistic where I could talk to him and you know, all that kind of stuff. But, um, so he's petting this lion. He's just like the lion's 30 feet. I knew the lion was 30 feet tall, um, on its hind legs. So huge lion.

42:10 Um, and he's just petting him like, you know, probably a big cat that would sit next to us, you know, not, not a feline, but like a. tiger or something you know a big one that would sit next to us it looked like that so he was huge and he's on his throne he had hair that was white and i remember coming home saying because people would ask me about him and i said is he he looks older you know like but i don't know if wisdom had a look he would he looked like that he looked so wise yeah but he didn't look He looked older, but not like all wrinkly and, and his hair was white. It wasn't gray. And then I read in Daniel, he's the ancient of days sits on the throne.

42:54 He has white hair made of wool. Yeah. And I believe that's why Satan in hell wears that, that, you know, was dressed like a sheep to me. Yeah. Yeah. Cause he copies, he copies. Yeah. Wolf and sheep's clothing. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. That was always super interesting. And I said, why did he appear to me like that, Lord? And later on, he said, because he's the father of the false prophet. So that's something more, too, for me to figure out in the upcoming years and for us as people to figure out as well. That's something deep. I know that. But yeah, so he's sitting on the throne. The throne looked like a pearl -esque, but it was several colors. So it would kind of, as the light hit it, it would kind of change.

43:44 So I saw the rainbow throne, you know, in the Bible, but it wasn't dark colored. It was lighter, you know, like pearl -esque pink, for example. I even bought, my husband got me a present. And not too long ago, and it was this watch that had that pearlesque pink in it because it reminded me how the color would shift and one of the colors on the throne. And he was just, he had a beard. I don't remember specific details of his face as much as I remember that Jesus, when I saw them later sitting by each other on their thrones, Jesus looked like him and like a father or son does his father. Jesus looked exactly like a Kiana Kramarik's Prince of Peace photo. Really?

44:34 Yeah. Oh, yeah. And I'm so excited. Next month, I get to go to Houston to speak at a gallery opening, and I'm going to go to her beloved studio and meet her. Yeah. With someone I want to connect you guys with as well. She has an amazing testimony, too. Yeah. But, yeah, so he looked just like that. And they would sit on their thrones, though. Oh, my gosh. You know when you see a son and a father and they just love each other and they laugh and they get along? And times that, times a billion. And you'll see what you see when you look at Jesus and the Father sitting by each other. There is no closer relationship, I think, that exists than that one. I really don't. I think it is beyond beautiful. Beyond beautiful.

45:21 And they would sit on their thrones and they would laugh. All the time. And I love that. I love that because I'm a joker. And if you can't laugh at yourself, then you just are way too serious. And I'm always talking about dry bar comedy. That's a comedy thing on Facebook. If you need a laugh, just go to them. They're clean and they're just funny. And everybody needs to laugh. And I love that he laughed because I've been told, you joke around too much. You need to be more serious. You need to be this and that all my life. Not by my parents even, but like other people. And I'm like, I came back from heaven going, I'm perfect that way. I mean, we have enough serious people. Yeah. Right. But they would sit up there and laugh. And every time Jesus would laugh, his head would fling backwards. He'd be laughing so hard. And I'd see, because I was sitting on the throne room steps during this, and I'd see his perfect teeth.

46:19 And I just always loved that. I saw his perfect teeth because he would be laughing so hard. And I asked God, too, when I came back, I said, how much did you guys laugh? Because you guys laughed all the time. And he said, we laugh 50 % of the time. He said it twice. We laugh 50 % of the time. But once my children are with me, we'll laugh all the time. Wow. I thought that was so beautiful. They would just look down on people. See, I never knew that the earth was his footstool, but I knew by instinct that him and Jesus were looking down at the ones on earth that he loved. I knew specifically his children. And he's looking down and he's laughing. And I, being me, I just say, and this is the only time I even acknowledged Jesus or had the opportunity to, I said, what are you guys laughing at? Because I was like, are they making fun of us or something? And the Lord says, I'm looking down on the ones I love.

47:19 And then I come back years later, I'm studying the meaning of beloved. And it literally means the ones I love. So he was looking down on his beloved, laughing in adoration. I knew it was adoration then too. I was just kidding him, but because I'm still me. But yeah, he would just. He was so sweet. And I love that there's certain questions he let me ask fully, you know, like get out the whole sentence. But Psalm 139 verse 4, there is not a word on our tongue that thou not knowest altogether. So he would answer me a lot of times by the second or third word. I would say, well, well, God, and you go, well, Camille, and then he would just start talking to me. And it was so amazing. Yeah. Like reading your mail. Yeah. Yeah. Because it is telepathic there. It was completely, I don't think I ever moved my mouth like that. I didn't eat. I knew I could, like if you wanted to or something.

48:19 But Dean Braxton brings up a really cool point because I never knew this before this in the last couple months, probably a year. He said that the belly is for meat and the meat is for belly, but in heaven you will not need either one of these things. Paul says this in Corinthians. And I was like, that's totally true because I never felt like I needed to eat. When he would speak, that's when you got filled up. It was like fuel. It was food. It was everything. But I did see thousands and thousands, millions, I think even, of babies. And babies were the most of any age group in heaven. I think it's all because of miscarriages and abortion. Yeah.

49:06 It's terrible. And so they would age though. So there was all different age groups of babies. So like lots of toddlers. So they would all age. And from what I saw, everybody returned to Christ's age when they got there. They were perfected in Christ's age. The babies. I would age up into that from what I saw because I saw I had lost two children in miscarriage. And my son, wow, God is so good. He showed me them there. But I knew that he was aging because I saw him. But how I saw them, I think that I definitely need to talk about this. And I could see this drone view of heaven. And I would ask God questions and different things. But one of them was I saw into the gate. So there's this huge gate. There's lots of gates there. But this one that I saw was, I think, the entrance gate. Because these tiny angels had these wings. And I knew they were in. Instinctually, they were errant angels.

50:09 And they were hanging these big, beautiful bows. And they had all my favorite colors intertwined somehow. Because I remember thinking, those are all my favorite colors. But separate but together. Because color is so much different there. And they were hanging them on the wall. And I believe it's 2 Peter. It says that you will be ministered to abundantly upon your entry into heaven. And so they were preparing my party. And I always loved that it was a narrow gate. It was a narrow gate. And so it was very, I got that as I'm writing my book as well, because I was trying to think of describing the gate. And I'm like, it's a narrow gate. And God says, didn't my word say that? And I thought, wow, that's something you wouldn't think of to be literal. But yeah, but there was a narrow gate and it was solid gold.

51:02 The doors were solid gold. And so they were fixing that up. And as I'm looking down, one of the ladies started, there were two ladies helping me out or, you know, decorating for the party. One was really beautiful. She had a clipboard and she was instructing the angels on where to place my bows and where exactly everything she wanted to do. And she had a checklist. And as she's doing this, I came back and I said to my ex -husband, I said, I said, I met this woman. I met two of them, actually, but the one is the one I got confirmed of. But the first one with the clipboard, I said, I met this woman. She was so beautiful. She had this strawberry blonde hair, but she pulled it up. And I just described characteristics about her. She's an organizer, lovely, lovely woman. And he said, that's my grandma Pansy. And I thought he was joking. I thought that he was kind of a joker. So we're trying to make me feel better because I was so devastated. And so I thought, okay, well, he's probably saying that. Well, about in 2017, I returned, you know, I came back from heaven in 2013. In 2017, I'm in my wheelchair still. And we cleaned out a storage unit that he had had before we got married. And so I was looking through all these pictures and I said, oh, cool, pictures of his family that I'd never seen before. Because his grandmothers, there were two grandmothers I met there. One died 10 years before we met.

52:29 The other one was 20 years before we met. And they were old. They were older. So I would have never seen them in their 30s. But I'm scrolling through these pictures and I see the picture and I just say, oh, my God, I got so excited. I put on my lap and I start wheeling towards them. And I'm like, this is her. This is who I saw in heaven. And he goes, yeah, that's my grandma Pansy. Wow. Yeah. That's amazing. Yeah. And someone I would have never in a million years knew on earth. Nothing. I never saw pictures. My father -in -law didn't have pictures of her, you know, in the house that I saw, at least. He may have. I don't know. But so nothing could have got in there, though, you know, that would have made me and to know her characteristics and how she wore her hair. But people there are different in the aspect. Daniel 12 says it brilliantly.

53:22 And he says that those who bring basically those who bring people to the Lord will shine like the raiment. Amen. So everybody's shown there. So like skin was like a glittery. See, when he first took me out of my body, before I transformed, I was clear. But once I transformed, I was glittery and shone like the raiment. Like everybody were in these white robes, but there was no skin color. You just knew people. You just instinctually knew them sometimes. Like if you do know them, he withheld some of that from me. Like I didn't know my children until he told me. So as one of these two, I believe, grandmothers were yelling, started yelling, Camille's here, Camille's here.

54:08 And as soon as she started yelling that, I saw. Hundreds of people like rush, like how a big homecoming, you know, just rush in to meet me. And I just remember me and the father are looking over at drone style because I never went into the actual gates. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm looking at a drone and I see all these people come up and I see this little boy crawling at the very back. And I said, who's that? And he said, that's your son. So, Camille, let's pause now and tell the rest of the story in the next episode. Does that work for you? Yeah, absolutely. So, would you close this episode in prayer for us, for our viewers and our listeners? Absolutely. And one thing I've loved since I've been back is knowing that... Prayer is the closest I can be back there. So I love prayer. I love intercession.

55:08 I think it's so important that all of us are praying all the time. Like he says, the Lord says, pray without ceasing, right? And so, because it really brings earth to heaven more than anything else we can possibly do. So we thank you, Lord God. We thank you, Jesus, for today, Lord. I pray for every person listening that you bless and anoint them, Lord. I pray for blessings and confirmations of what I've spoken. today, Lord. I thank you, Jesus, for loving us the way you do. May they feel that love that you have for them because it's so much bigger than we could ever imagine. So every listener here needs a revelation of that love. We ask for a revelation of that love right now, Lord God. We thank you for every person listening. I love your healing power. I am a true testament to your healing power. So we thank you, Lord God, that in your name, Jesus, we ask for every person listening to be healed right now jesus of whatever ails them that we will have people writing saying they had miraculous healings from you yes and all glory goes to you father and we love you we love and worship you lord we just ask that you confirm just your feelings about everybody, because I know it's so easy to get wrapped up on what we're not these days, Lord. Help every person listening to realize their identity in Christ, and especially even me, Lord God. I have a hard time. I'm not perfect. And so we thank you that you are, that you are worthy to be praised.

56:37 And we ask, Lord God, that you bless this show, bless this broadcast like they never even could have possibly imagined in a way so good. Good, Lord. Thank you for being so good and loving us so much that you look down from heaven and laugh. Thank you, Lord. In Jesus' mighty name. Amen. Amen. Amen. Thank you so much. That was tremendous. Oh, good. And we look forward to the next episode. Amen. Yes. Me too. If you enjoyed today's podcast, please subscribe, rate, and review this podcast on Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen to podcasts. Your review helps the podcasting platform suggest this podcast to other listeners who are also looking for a great move of the Holy Spirit. Check out our website at globaloutpouring .org to find out more information, read our blogs, connect with us, and donate.

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