(265) “Fathers, Teachers, and Intercessors—The New Face of Missions” with Peter Snyder
Peter Snyder has been a missionary in countries all over the world for over 40 years, and in that time, Peter has watched the era of traditional missions work come to an end. As more and more people in the nations are coming to Christ, indigenous groups are now leading the way in spreading the Gospel in their own lands—hallelujah! So where does that leave us? Peter shares amazing insights from his recent trip to Mongolia and highlights the urgent need for spiritual fathers, teachers, and intercessors to help the international Church continue the work of the Gospel. So, be encouraged! You still have a part to play!
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And my friend Samson, who's running a school
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there for the pastors who are coming out there
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and are leaving in droves, he said, from China.
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I said, well, where in the world are they going?
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He said, well, where else could they go? They
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have to leave. They're going into the, I want
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to cry when I say it, into the mission field.
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And so that's the next generation. We'll train
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these last 40 years in China. They're doing what
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we did 40 years ago. God promises in Joel 2 .28
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to pour out His Spirit on all humanity. Welcome
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I'm Philip Buss. And I'm Sharon Buss. Welcome
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to the podcast today. We're so glad you've joined
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us. We have with us our dear friend Peter Snyder,
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who's been a missionary in China, in Haiti, and
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other nations. And he's just come back from Mongolia,
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and he's going to share with us what is the latest
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in missions. Thank you so much for joining us
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I just love the passion of our brother Pete Snyder.
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He's just an amazing man of God with a passion
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for souls and a passion for teaching and all
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Snyder, it is such a blessing to have you with
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us. Before we push the record button, I was talking
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about the last time we had you on our podcast,
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and you made a comment about the missions as
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we knew it. Everything's changed now. It's over,
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and you just saw like we've already done everything
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that needed to be done as far as we were concerned.
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I want you to speak into that. Can you bring
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us some clarification? Our thinking is being
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changed. Even Jesus, his thinking was changed
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as he learned obedience through the things that
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he suffered, right? Amen. He learned and we're
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learning. Well, you left off with a real good
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question for me, you know, what I had said earlier
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about my idea of traditional missions being over
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in as much as we learn a new language, go to
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a new country, tell them about Jesus. Because
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in the last 50 years, we've seen countries Christianized.
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And their own indigenous people reaching out
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to the unreached people groups in their areas,
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whereas beforehand there was nobody at that point
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that could do that. But we did it, and we kind
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of saw a conclusion to that generation. And now
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what we're thinking about is what's next for
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us, like our baby boomer. Generation. What are
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we all about now? And what I'm seeing now more
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than anything else is they need teachers. They
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didn't have good Bible schools. They didn't have
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gospel truth teachers so much. But the Holy Spirit
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has taught them what to do and how to do it.
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And I've been amazed in China to see what was
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available, which was nothing. All they had was
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a touch of the presence of the Holy Spirit. people
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coming to the Lord, them coming together, reading
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the Bible together. It was very complicated for
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them because they had nobody to help them, you
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know, plow through Numbers and Deuteronomy and
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that sort of thing. And it was just a totally
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different scene because then after that, what
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did they do? They ate together, they worshiped
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the Lord together, and then they went on to reach
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more people together. But it just proliferated.
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And what happened after that? There was no teachers.
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And so now I'm coming in on the back end of things
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all throughout Southeast Asia now, bringing teaching,
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and they are so hungry. Peter, don't stop. Continue.
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And what do you need to know more than anything
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else? And then I find out from the pastors what
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they need to know and simplify it, bring it down
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to something that they can understand. And it's
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been such a blessing because they're so humble
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and they want to learn. They're teachable, not
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like so many situations I've come into where
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people weren't. And even we, you and I, like
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we said at the beginning, we have to be ready
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to learn and have a teachable heart. So my idea
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is a lot different than it was the last time
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we spoke when I was there at Engletown about,
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you know, the end of the great white missionary
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hope going into that area, learning the language,
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bringing them to Jesus, because now it's a totally
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different picture. All over the world and on
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back to Jerusalem through the Muslim nations.
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And of course, Jesus returns. So let me clarify
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that. And I hope I did there to you. Yeah. The
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last time you were with us, you spoke about,
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you know, being the end of missions as we knew
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it. And it kind of left me with a question mark.
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So I appreciate the fact that you're clarifying
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this. And especially since you've just been to
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Mongolia. Tell us a little bit about that. That
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was a whole new nation for you. Yeah, and it
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was wonderful. It was a great experience bringing
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the Word of God there, because when I say the
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Word, I mean the gospel truth, because they had
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been through so much of these initial decades
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of learning to live and function and operate
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as a church. But there, you know, they were so
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hungry. And I'm a senior now at 70 years old.
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And to go to places like that with only 1 .7
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% Christians there, I thought, wow, that's what
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it was in China in 1987 when we went there. And
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then what happened next? It was like, whoa, it
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was an explosion. But the thing is, generationally
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speaking, I'm talking to you, Sharon, and me
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at our age. Things come in perfect timing. The
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Holy Spirit's timing is perfect. And even for
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this, you know, I thought, is that it? When I
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got over there and I saw the people and I saw
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their hunger and their love for each other, I
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thought, I almost don't want to interfere. And
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I did take a backseat. They brought me up to
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teach them these things, but I wanted to take
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a backseat and like a grandfather, which I am,
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Guide them and love them. And, you know, none
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of this grandstanding stuff. And they had found
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that some other denominations from other different
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countries would come in and want to control them
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in a situation. And they said, you need this.
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They didn't. What I saw was just such love. And
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especially during this Easter season when we
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were there. They all came together in Ardennet,
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the pastors, leaders, and the teachers. And the
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place was just packed. They hadn't done that
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there before. And there they were. And it was
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just a festival of love. And when you have that
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kind of love, you have the Holy Spirit. And what
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do you really need more than that except somebody
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to maybe come up and impress on them the need
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for them to keep their freedoms? And that's what
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Paul was most interested in because he saw what
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was happening. He said these Judaizers and these
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legalists will come in and they'll try to steal
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your freedom. And he said, I'm afraid of that,
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the wolves. And I saw that too. But they have
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such a grasp on the Holy Spirit and his love
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among themselves in Mongolia that anything outside
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of that is suspect. And they discern it. right
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now. But me as an outsider going in, you know,
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I had to just kind of learn from watching them.
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And I thought, how many other nations in Asia
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need this and need the old teachers to come in?
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And I thought I was very humbled to be able to
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do that. You know, they don't really put much
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emphasis on Easter like we do. Good Friday. But
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they did have that meeting. I walked in some
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of those churches and there was Santa Claus's
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picture up there. Oh, that's amazing. Santa Claus.
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We don't work here. So they do need grandfathers
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and fathers in Israel, and that's what we are.
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So we held three full seminars in four different
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places, and it was on the Father, Son, and the
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Holy Spirit to give them the theology of the
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gospel. Where we don't go back and we don't delve
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into the Old Covenant understanding of who God
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was and try to work our salvation out in the
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Old Testament. But we look at John 3 .16 and
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the good news and the context of John 3 .16 and
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then John chapter 3 and then the book of John
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and then the Gospels. And then we'll learn this
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all together. And then when we're finished. We'll
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go through the whole New Testament, learn everything
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we can about Jesus, and then we'll go back and
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look at some of the history and how it pointed
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to Jesus. But we don't start from there. Our
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foundation is in the gospel truth. And so when
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we held these seminars, I mean, we just being
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another guy and the head pastor there on the
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father. It was identifying who the father was,
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you know, the father. They never knew him as
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the father. And the son, of course, he's in and
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through everything. You teach him Colossians
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about that in us and who we are in the Holy Spirit.
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And we're one. And then the idea of the body
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and what privilege we have in this. Last generation,
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chosen generation, royal priesthood, holy nation.
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And then when they get their identity in that,
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they're not as apt to slip. And that's where
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Paul was reinforcing that and just pounding that
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same nail. I told you on that one video I just
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sent that I was shocked because I asked the head
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pastor in Mongolia. I said, what denomination
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are you people? Because there's just all the
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Christians from everyone who were gathered here.
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What's a denomination? Wow. I love it. He just
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didn't even know. And I thought, wow, I don't
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even want to tell him. But, you know, I checked
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earlier. Do you know how many denominations there
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are of Christianity? Oh, my. There's over 10
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,000. Oh, my. Yeah. Just check it out sometime.
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Well, a denomination is just the way certain
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people think and how they approach. Christianity
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and what they believe. But we all have our cohesion
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in the Apostles' Creed, of course. All Christians
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believe the same thing there. I believe in God
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the Father, Almighty Maker. Do you believe that?
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Do you understand that? Yes. Why do we say that?
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Well, Christians in the old days, many of them
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couldn't read. They didn't know what their faith
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was, but they would say that and reinforce who
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they knew they were as Christians, especially
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if they were going to be brought through fiery
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tribulation and persecution, which is sad, which
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the first century Christian church suffered like
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no other church before. Our church is built on
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the blood and the foundation of what they did.
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When I said, oh, yeah, we see, we know, we understand.
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Do you do that? Do you say this? Do you all learn
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that? Yes, we do. And they also learn some other
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old covenant things that still don't apply to
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the new way that Jesus made for us, you know,
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into discovering the kingdom and discovering
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who he is. And so there has to be somebody like
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a father. that will come in and just help them.
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You say, hey, this is really good, what you're
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doing. And here's what you can do to make it
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better. Here's what we can do together. And that
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approach never loses. But if someone goes in
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like the old Christian missionary, guy you know
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this critical spirit are you doing this and you
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start pointing fingers at everybody and everything
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say this is wrong and that's wrong you know it
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just causes confusion and they want to learn
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and like a child you don't want to you want to
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be very simple about the things you present and
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um i was teaching them along the way in mongolia
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you know there's a new things that the Lord wants
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to show you, and revelation he wants to teach
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you on your own, and an awakening that we need
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in these last days to finish the work and get
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a vision for what he wants us to do. And at the
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end of these seminars, invariably, they were
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coming up to me, Brother Pete, we got a vision.
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We had an awakening. I mean, there's tears and
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all kinds of wonderful breakthroughs there. Wonderful.
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Good. Now you're on track here. But then what
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does that mean for me? To say, okay, that's the
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end of it, ditch it and go? No, teaching is continuous.
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And being a teacher, I think, is the greatest
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thing. I'm not a pastor, and here I am, the Lord
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has called me to train pastors. Maybe that's
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better, because they're not thinking that there's
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any spirit of competition there among pastors
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or me. But just to be a teacher and bring the
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truth in a way that a father would. It was a
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wonderful experience for me, and that was the
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best part of Mongolia. And you've learned that
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too, your grandmother. And I just want the children
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to receive the bread, and I don't want it to
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be thrown to the dogs today. Amen. We know where
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they are. So let's see here. The girl who introduced
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me to the things there in Mongolia had been in
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China for 10 years. tribal regions all by herself,
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not as a Christian, but with the United Nations.
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And I saw what she was doing in those areas that
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were totally unreached at that time. I said,
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hey, this is wonderful. And I came in and even
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helped her to understand what the idea was, how
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we could really help and brought her to Jesus.
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She became a missionary and started. teaching
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the gospel everywhere, including North Korea
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for nine years. She lived there all by herself
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and everybody else wouldn't dare to go. And now
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she's been in Mongolia these last nine years.
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And I invited her to our house here in Phoenix.
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And she was here. I said, hey, do you know any
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of the pastors over there? And she said, well,
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sure. I love those pastors. I said, well, ask
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them if they would like. It would be all right
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if a teacher came through and brought seminars
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because that's what I've been doing in Philippines,
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Thailand, China and everywhere else over there.
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And they said, OK, we'll ask. And then she did.
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And they said, oh, sure. We would just love that.
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Wow. And so when I came there, I saw that the
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biggest problems. that they had were some of
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the things we saw in some of the deepest tribal
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regions with alcoholism. But they have their
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own rehab centers and they have their own prison
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ministries, which is wonderful. But what I really
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loved. And I wanted to be part of, and I told
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you this before I ever went there, I wanted to
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reach some of those lost tribes that nobody had
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reached. Because I heard there's 28 tribes and
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23 of them haven't heard about Jesus. So everywhere
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I went there, I asked them, is there any outreach?
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What do you guys do? And right then, you know,
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we were there. There's two blizzards we went
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through when we were there. But these guys were
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coming in on horseback. I mean, they looked,
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they're freezing to death. And they said, this
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is outreach. Isn't God good? We were able to
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go to some of these tribes. I said, can I go
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with him? And I thought maybe I couldn't fit
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on one of those horses because I'm a little bit
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bigger than they are, I thought. But then I saw
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some of them, they were bigger than me. And I
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thought, well, if they can do it, I can. I just
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would rather go at a time when it's not so cold.
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But up they went, down to the east. And right
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as we were leaving, the head pastor was going
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down into the Gobi, to the tribes there, and
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up by Russia and off to the west. And the head
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pastor's going to take three other pastors going
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into Uzbekistan and Kajikistan and bring the
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gospel to the Mongolians there and up into Russia
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so that they can. Do their own outreach from
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there and show them what they've learned. So
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all of that I learned in such a short time there.
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And I thank God, you know, that I was able to
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do that. And I'm looking forward to going back.
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But first I have to go to Thailand and Philippines
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and teach and then into China. I'll take Lauren
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in there with me. We haven't been there since
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COVID. Yeah, Lauren, my wife. I'm looking to
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see how the pastors are doing over there because
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I've heard nothing from them. When we were there,
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it was called WeChat. Do you remember WeChat,
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how we would talk to each other? And today there's
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WhatsApp and Signal and some of these others,
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but I had all the pastors' names and their contact
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information on WeChat. As soon as I got to America
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and got an American phone number, they were all
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gone. And so I've had no contact with any of
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them, except for the pastors that came out to
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Thailand, who I don't see, and my friend Samson,
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who's running a school there for the pastors
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who are coming out there and are leaving in droves,
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he said, from China. I said, well, where in the
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world are they going? He said, well, where else
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could they go? They have to leave. They're going
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into the, I want to cry when I say it, into the
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mission field. Amen. So that's the next generation.
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You know, we've trained these last 40 years in
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China. They're doing what we did 40 years ago.
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And it's so precious. And they have that, you
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know, the Back to Jerusalem movement. Yes. Not
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just the Chinese, but all the Asians. They want
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to go back and see where Jesus was and where
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he rose from the dead, where he was born. And
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Jesus himself said, you know, from Jerusalem
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to Judea, Samaria to the outermost parts of the
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earth. And then, of course, it would go all the
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way around the world and back to Jerusalem. And
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the last time I was there in Jerusalem was with
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Gene and the Chinese pastor. And I took them.
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I thought, well, praise God, at least I can go
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and see some of the Chinese. All the way back
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to where Jesus started his ministry is the Jordan
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River there outside of Jericho. And so Gene took
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us there. And so I took Pastor Sampson, who has
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that school in Thailand, a Chinese pastor, teaching
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the Chinese pastors. And I said, Sampson, go
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down into the water. And he started to go down
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into the water. And out of the crowd came these
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other Chinese. Wow. There's something about going
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to the toilet in China that one person has to
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go, they all go. They saw him go, and they came
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out from everywhere at about five or six of them,
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and they all went down in the water, didn't know
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each other. took a hold of each other's hands
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and went down and up and down and down. And they
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were singing this song. I tell you, Sharon, I
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knew the song, but I never had heard it before.
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Like that song in the book of Revelation that
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they sing. And the presence of God was over that
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place like never before. Hallelujah. I've seen
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it. That's where Jesus started his ministry.
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And that's where he ended his ministry when he
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went back to Jerusalem himself to die on the
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cross. And Thomas said, come on, let's go with
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him, boys. And we all have to go through that
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valley there that goes back to Jerusalem. It's
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called the Valley of the Shadow of Death. Dean
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said, look up here. This is the mountain of temptation.
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I said, yeah, but do you know what that is down
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there? I've gone through it all the way back.
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It's the valley of the shadow of death. And that's
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where Jesus went when he went back and raised
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Lazarus from the dead, which was a type of what
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he was about to do himself, and then redeemed
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the entire world. I'm saying this to say that
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all of the Asians are very, very keen on this
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notion of Jesus returning to Jerusalem and to
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finish the work through the Muslim nations. But
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there's something to be said for that in as much
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as the Muslims all know who Jesus is. But, you
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know, they don't know that he's the Messiah.
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Right. And it's just a hard nut to crack. It's
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like. It is in Israel with the Jews. The religious
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spirit is the hardest one to get through to.
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And I mean, not many come to the Lord, but in
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the fires that they're going through now over
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there in the Middle East. That's what's going
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to bring it all forth because there's always
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one hand is the awakening and the other hand
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is the fires of the persecution. It's always
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like that. So I guess what I wanted to say more
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than anything else on this podcast is that our
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generation has a wonderful, wonderful responsibility
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and calling as teachers. And to me, there's nothing
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greater than being a teacher. I'm heading out
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in a couple of weeks to go back to Asia. And
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then a couple of weeks after that, back to China.
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Hopefully, I'll come and see you in the late
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summer or early fall. And then from there, we're
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going to put our heads together and figure out
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what to do next. Now, I do have a little word
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to give. It's only just a minute. Sure. But I
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want you to hear this. Good. I found this morning,
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and it touched my heart, you know, Hezekiah had
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his life extended, remember? Mm -hmm. And chapter
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20 of 2 Kings, and here comes Isaiah, and he
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speaks to him when these Babylonians came, looks
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at all the gold that Hezekiah had accumulated.
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So Hezekiah had given these extra years, and
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we've been given extra years now. Yes, we have.
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I'm telling you. And there's a tight fear. But
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then he told them they came from a far country.
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And Isaiah said, they will come and take your
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sons who will descend from you, who you will
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beget, and they shall become eunuchs in the palace
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of the king of Babylon. So Hezekiah said to Isaiah,
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and here's where I had the problem with this.
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The word of the Lord which you have spoken is
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a good word. For he said, will there not be peace
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and truth at least in my days? Yeah, that breaks
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my heart. Yeah, but listen, it did me too. It
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troubled me for a minute. But then I thought,
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he knew what was coming. We all knew what was
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coming to the United States, but it was averted.
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We have an extended period of time now before
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Manasseh gets into the picture. You know, if
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Hezekiah's life hadn't been extended, there would
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have been no Manasseh. Think about it. I know,
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I have thought about that. Well, here, what he
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says, this will be good. Won't there be truth
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in my days? And it bothered me because I thought,
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well, what about his kids and grandkids have
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become eunuchs? Wouldn't he worry about them?
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But then in my days, in my generation, at least
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he knew he had that generation to make a difference,
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bring the truth, finish his calling, finish his
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work, like Paul said, and do what he had to do.
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in his days, and our generation too. And so that's
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where my mind, what's going to happen is going
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to happen. You know, that's all been written
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in the books. But we have been given a very,
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very special period of time now. We saw what
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could have happened if things would have continued
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on the way they went. And thank God they didn't.
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But this is an extended period of time for us
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to get this mind about us of what we can do to
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finish well. Beyond that, there's nothing anybody
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can do about it. Not Hezekiah, not Isaiah, not
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you or me. But this is a very urgent time. And
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when I saw that, I was just like you. It broke
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my heart. Poor children. I've lost a son. I know
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what it's like. But the children, the children,
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if we do what we're called to do and finish the
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work the way we're supposed to do it, God will
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take care of our children. My father used to
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tell me that. My brother said, why are you selling
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everything we have and giving it to the Haitians?
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He said, well, if I take care of God's work,
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he'll take care of my kids. children. He said,
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I don't want that kind of inheritance. I want
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the real kind. But you know what? This is the
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real kind. This is the real kind. Well, that's
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just about all I have here. In our generation,
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you said that there was another generation. There
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was this generation of baby boomers, the millennials,
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and a group, what did you call them? Gen Y. The
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Gen Y. I'd never even heard of it. Or maybe it's
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Gen X. Maybe it's Gen X. I'm not sure. Gen X,
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Gen Y. Or there's Gen Z. I know that. But then
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the next group that I don't know, that's the
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beta. I thought, what is the next bunch that
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are coming in? And they're the ones that will
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be most greatly influenced by technology. And
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we see the little kids jumping on the iPhones,
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jumping on this and using AI and doing all this
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stuff. What's that going to bring forth? Well,
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it depends on what the fathers and mothers, how
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they lead them and guide them into the next generation.
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We can determine what smells fishy and what doesn't
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and can help them along. And so I guess when
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we spoke the last time and I thought maybe my
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role is an overseas missionary and the traditional
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sense is over. It certainly is not when it comes
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to being a guard dog. Amen. of the kingdom and
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a watchman, as it says in Habakkuk, remember?
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Yes, I will stand upon the ramparts. Yes, we
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do. I love you, honey, and I love you, Philip.
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I can't see you back there. Hope you're doing
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okay. Yeah, I'm doing good. Did you get that
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grease out of your fingernails? He was changing
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the oil, wasn't he? Yes. He's a man of many hats.
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You know, I want to add something here, Peter.
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Something that the Lord has reminded me of, I
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studied this book a number of years ago, but
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there's a little yellow book called Praying Effectively
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for the Lost. And it's really, really powerful
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in just bringing a clarity to the importance
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of prayer when it comes to salvation for the
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lost. That you're not going to find anybody that's
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getting saved. Unless somebody's praying for
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them. And that's a part of missions that a lot
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of folks don't get a hold of. They don't feel
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called to the nations. Maybe they maybe they're
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interested in the nations, but they don't see
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themselves going there. But the value of prayer.
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for bringing in the harvest is just enormous.
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Pray the Lord of the harvest that he'll bring
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forth laborers into the harvest fields. And the
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idea of binding the strongman. The strongman
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is the way of thinking, the mindset that keeps
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people from accepting the gospel. There's like
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a stronghold in the very center that it's unbelief
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in Jesus as the Messiah, as our Savior. It's
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a spirit of unbelief, or it's... a mindset, rather,
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of unbelief, and it's guarded by a whole bunch
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of other things that are besetting sins in a
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person's life, whether it's greed or lust or
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addiction or trauma or abuse or, you know, any
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of those kind of things that keep a person from
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getting the gospel in, like where in the parable
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of the sower, where you've got Instantly, as
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soon as that seed is dropped on the ground, the
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birds are there swallowing it up. And our prayer
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life is key in seeing this revival, seeing the
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outpouring, seeing souls come. And I just feel
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like that is a piece that we really need to bring
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again, anew, afresh, this idea of intercession.
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for the lost is just enormous. Can I make an
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application to that? Please. Because it's something
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that I learned kind of the hard way. You know,
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I couldn't see any of the people in Israel and
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Jerusalem becoming Christians. And I tried talking
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to them about Jesus and the Orthodox synagogues
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and this and that. And as I was leaving, one
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man, he was a Holocaust survivor. He came up
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to me and as I was leaving, he said, Promise
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me something. I said, what? Promise me I can
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walk in the kingdom with you. I said, okay. And
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I left his house, and Satan just peed up on me.
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He said, how dare you? How dare you say that
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to him? You have no authority. And then out of
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my heart came Psalm 116. I believe, therefore
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I spoke. Shut up, devil. And I went home and
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he was harassing me and harassing me. Got on
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my knees in my bedroom. And I started weeping
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and weeping for this guy and these other ones
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there. And the Lord spoke to me and said, how
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do you think you came in, Peter? It's those tears
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of your mother and grandmother and all. And I
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hadn't had that revelation. But, you know, I'm
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convinced. The love extended and where we make
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these relationships, they're eternal. They go
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beyond anything we can see, even if it's only
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a hope. Like you said that last time, Psalm 91,
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the last verse. Yes. And show him my salvation.
00:33:25.890 --> 00:33:28.730
Exactly. Well, thanks for saying that. I'm going
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to look for that. I think I read that book. It's
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an old book, Pray Effectively for the Lost. Yeah.
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You don't know who wrote it? Yes, it's Lee Thomas.
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Lee Thomas is the author. He's got some nice
00:33:39.420 --> 00:33:41.559
YouTube videos out there, too. Yeah, he's got
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a 14 -year -old YouTube video that teaches some
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of this in nine -minute segments. It's like a
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90 -minute total. But it's PEL Ministries, Praying
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Effectively for the Lost. PELministries .org,
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I think it is, is his website. And I've just
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beenâI went back to my book. And I marked it
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all up the first time I read it. So I marked
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it up some more this time. And I'm just, I'm
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very, very moved about the importance of prayer.
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And what you said about tears, one of the quotes
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that he makes in this book, and I've heard it
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other times when folks that were in the Salvation
00:34:20.300 --> 00:34:22.360
Army were reaching out to General Booth and saying,
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we are having no success in our outreach. We're
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just getting nowhere. And General Booth wrote
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back two words. Try tears. Try tears. It's the
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compassion of the Lord. We've got to get a love
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for the lost to be able to pray for them. When
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we have our children, we learn that. We have
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a mother's heart and a father's heart. Yeah.
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That's where we learn it. That's where we become
00:34:49.280 --> 00:34:52.539
fathers and mothers of the lost, too. It's true.
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Well, honey, this is a new day for all of us,
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and we have a new beginning and a new start.
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I think everything began, was born new with this
00:35:02.039 --> 00:35:05.559
new administration in Washington. And it's our
00:35:05.559 --> 00:35:08.239
time extended that we have, and we need to use
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it wisely. Yes. And, you know, just redeem the
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time. And I really appreciate you giving me a
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chance to talk. All my friends that are out there
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I haven't spoken to in a long time. We'll be
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seeing you again sometime soon, okay? Amen. Amen.
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Do you want to pray for our listeners before
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we part here? I would like to. Father, we just
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thank you for this eternal moment. It's been
00:35:32.409 --> 00:35:35.210
so precious to be in your presence. I hope I
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can get through this prayer. I just speak life
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over everybody that's listening, Lord, and an
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awakening, a vision of the things of the days
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ahead that you would have us to do, that you
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enabled us to do, Lord, and that you would send
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us forth to do. Provide for us, Lord. Bring forth
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divine provision like never before. And more
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than that, Lord, give us a certainty as to what
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our calling is and our identity is in you, Lord
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Jesus, that we have this authority. I speak that
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into all those that are listening right now as
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we go forth and we speak it into the lives by
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impartation to those that you would send us to.
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In the mighty name of the Lord Jesus Christ.
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