(282) “Preparing to Be Used By God in the Spirit of Elijah” with Ken DeLoach

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Not everybody's a prophet. Right. But people

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that are prophets who flow in prophecy, like

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I tell people, I'm a minister. I flow in prophecy.

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I'm not a prophet. But if you're going to flow

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in prophecy or be a prophet, you had better be

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an intercessor. If you're not an intercessor,

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I'm sorry. You're not a prophet. Wow. That's

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my personal opinion. As my grandfather used to

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say, that's like noses. Everybody has one. God

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promised us in Joel 2 .28 to pour out His Spirit

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on all humanity. Welcome to Global Outpouring,

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where we contend for that promised outpouring,

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we equip for that outpouring, so that we may

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engage in that very outpouring. I'm Philip Boss.

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And I'm Sharon Boss. Welcome to the podcast today.

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We're so delighted that you're with us for this

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episode. We have with us a man who's becoming

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very dear to us, Ken DeLoach. And he was given

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a word back in 1978 that he's been living out

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all these days. And it's about preparing him

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to be used by God in the spirit of Elijah in

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the end times. Thank you so much for joining

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us today. We're so happy that you're with us.

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And we want to encourage you, if you haven't

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already done so, to go out to our website, globaloutpouring

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is helping you to see how you are being prepared

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by God for the ministry that he has for you in

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these end times. Well, Pastor Ken DeLoach, it's

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such a blessing and a pleasure to have you with

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us. You've been a member of this ministry for

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many years, since 1978. Is that right? That is

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correct. And we've just recently reconnected

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because you were living in Georgia and we didn't

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see a whole lot of you all those years. But welcome

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to the podcast. Thank you so much. We're delighted,

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delighted to have you. So we greatly appreciate

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the fact that you came to our Generation Awakening

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Youth and Young Adults. retreat recently, and

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you humbled yourself to cook for us. And you're

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a pastor, and of course, a pastor will do whatever

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a pastor needs to do. That is the truth. But

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tell us a little bit about yourself, your upbringing.

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Did you grow up in a Christian home? Tell us

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about where you came from. Well, first of all,

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thank you for having me on the podcast. I appreciate

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it so much. It's an honor to be here with you

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guys. I grew up in a home that we knew about

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God. And when I was younger, we went to church

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once in a while, not regularly. It was not until

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I became a teenager that we started going regularly

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to church then. I grew up in a little town in

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South Georgia in the middle of nowhere. We used

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to make a joke that we live so far back in the

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country, we have to pump sunshine into us back

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there. So, you know, on a dirt road back on a

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farm. Raised on a farm. And I thank God for my

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upbringing, but it was a difficult childhood.

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Very painful childhood. I think I remember you

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talking about your father wasn't a good father.

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No. My father was an alcoholic. Was very abusive,

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not only to my mother, but to us children. He

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didn't take care of his family. That's the easiest

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way I know how to say it. He abused his family.

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And it was difficult. I was the eldest, and to

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see these things happen, and there was nothing

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I could do. I wanted to do something, but at

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the time, I was just a child, and I didn't know

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what to do. I didn't know how to protect my mom,

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to keep her. I've seen him beat her mercilessly

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and put her in the hospital. I've seen him run

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over with a pickup truck. I've had myself covered

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in his blood. My mother would work all week long

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in a sewing factory. He'd come home at the end

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of the week with a paycheck, and he'd come in

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and steal it and go spend it on his drinking

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and his ladies. Oh, mercy. And we'd go pick up

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Coca -Cola bottles alongside the highway and

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turn them in for money. Then you could get a

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deposit for them. And we would get mayonnaise

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and bread and sometimes some eggs. A lot of times

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supper was just mayonnaise and bread. Oh, mercy.

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And it was a time when everybody had electricity,

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but a lot of times we didn't. We'd have to cook

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on a potbelly stove or we'd have to chop wood

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for the fireplace. My friends didn't do that,

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but that's the way I had to grow up. And I thank

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God for that now. But then it seemed to me to

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be an unfair burden. Yeah. Well, it really was

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an unfair burden. But, you know, your dad probably

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was raised that way too. No, he was not. Well,

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earlier in life, he was. His father was an alcoholic

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and very strong -willed man. He was a moonshine

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runner. Oh, my. And he was the type that if he

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felt like he wanted to fight, he'd knock somebody's

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head off and then beat the daylights out of them.

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Oh, my. That was my grandfather. He was a strong

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man. And then he got arrested for moonshining

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and sent off to a work camp. Back then, they

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sent moonshiners to work camps to train them

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to do something else. Wow. And every night, they

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had an evangelist. And they had to go to church

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every night to be preached to. And my grandfather

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told me this happened before I was born. He would

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tell me the story that one night they had a lady

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preacher who came to the tent and spoke and he

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gave his life to Christ. And he was never the

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same. He was the most godly man I knew. That

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was the grandfather I knew. I consider him my

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dad a lot of times. I knew the godly man. I didn't

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know. The rough and tumble moonshiner. Yeah.

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Wow. So my dad had some of that, but he also

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saw the other side. He was taken to church when

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his father got saved. But dad just seemed to

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want to go his own way, as some do. Wow. Did

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he come to the Lord before he passed? I talked

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to him many times in his later years. And dad,

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I know I've talked to you before, but as a son,

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I would not be doing my sonship part if I didn't

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ask you again. Are you sure things are good with

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you and the Lord? He says he'd say, son, you

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don't have to worry about it. It's taken care

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of. It's taken care of. That's all he would ever

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say. Wow. Yeah. So I just have to depend upon

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what he said. I can't tell you. Yeah. Because,

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you know. Yeah. Well, I love what Dean Braxton

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says from his experience in heaven, his hour

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and 45 minutes outside of his body. He said it

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is almost impossible for someone to go to hell

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if someone's praying for them. Yes. Oh, thank

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you, Jesus. I needed to hear that. Yeah, yeah,

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yeah. God has a way. He said that God is strategizing.

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Jesus is the greatest strategist, and he's always

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strategizing about how to get people there. He's

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trying to get people, and he is not trying to

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keep people out. Yeah, I love, and I can't remember

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the scripture right now that talks about that

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he has mercy, that he's so merciful that he will

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chase you down and pour his mercy upon you. Yes.

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That's our God. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's like

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the end of the 23rd Psalm. I think you're right.

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It's kind of like that song we hear is, goodness

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is running after me. Oh, yes. I love that song.

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It's one of my favorites. Yeah. Chasing you down.

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Because that's me. I say, Lord, I am so thankful

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that your mercies are new each morning because

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I wear them out every day. I do. That's just

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me. I'm the chiefest of sinners, and Lord, I've

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got to have those mercies. Please bring them

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this way. So how did you come to the Lord? Well,

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like I said, we started going to church when

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I was about 11 years old. Is it you and your

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mom or just your kids? Mom would take us when

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she would sometimes, but my uncle. My mother's

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sister's husband, they started a bus ministry

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and pick up kids. So they started picking us

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up and taking us and fell in love. That's where

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I felt safe because home was a nightmare and

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church became my sanctuary. I loved it every

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time I got a chance to go to the church because

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I got out of being honest the hell at home. Wow.

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And so when I was about. 12 years old, the pastor's

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wife, I was in her Sunday school class. It was

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like 10 to 12 -year -olds were in the Sunday

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school class, and I remember her. She'd said

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it many times, but that day something clicked.

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It was the Holy Spirit. And she says, anybody

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want to receive the Lord as their Savior? And

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I raised my hand and prayed the Lord's Prayer

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then, and He just changed my life from that point

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on. I began to see things so different. Yeah.

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It changes everything. Because I'll be honest

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with you. I hated my father because of the way

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he was mistreating my mom, basically. I didn't

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care about me. I just hated what I saw going

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to my mother and to my younger brothers and sisters.

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And little by little, God began to change that,

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began to give me a love. Now, it took me until

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I was a teenager to truly forgive him. Yeah.

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I can remember exactly where I was at when I

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was able to forgive him. I was in a little church

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in South Arkansas. I had to come to Bible school

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at Little Rock at the Rock Bible Institute, which

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does not exist anymore. It was an extension of

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Christ for the Nations. And the Christ for Nations

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choir had come up to sing at this church in southern

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Arkansas when we went to see them. And I had

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already been praying and seeking God to help

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me get over this anger and this unforgiveness.

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Because when I was 14, I was so sick, I had an

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ulcer half the size of my stomach. Oh, my. And

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I weighed 90 pounds, and I was tall as I am now.

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I grew fast, tall quickly, and didn't grow anymore

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after that. They called me Mr. Bones because

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I was so skinny you could see my bones through

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my shirt. Oh, my. And it was because I couldn't

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eat because I was so sick from all the stuff.

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And I had been asking the Lord. I started learning

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about the true forgiveness when I started going

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to Bible school. I didn't understand all the

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steps of forgiveness. And I started walking through

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those steps as I learned them through the word.

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And that night we were in service and it was

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just a beautiful singing service. There was no

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preaching, wonderful choir. And they just invited

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people to come to who needed to pray. And just

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something in me welled up and said, this is the

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time. So I went to the altar and I just broke.

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I cried and wept and cried. And I left it at

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the altar. Beautiful. Then I began to love my

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dad. And I took care of my dad his last days.

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I provided a home for him, took care of him,

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and was with him when he passed. Wow. What a

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wonderful healing. Yes. Thank you, Jesus. Did

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your siblings reconcile with him? Yes, all four

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of us did. Well, there's five of us. I have a

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half -brother also. Yeah, all five of us were

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there except for one of my brothers. He was not

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able to get there, but we were all with him when

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he passed. Wow. Did your mother get where she

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could forgive him? Oh, yes. They became friends.

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And when I think I was probably in my mid -20s,

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they worked things out and became friends, were

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friends the rest of his life. Wow. He was married

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eight times. And lived with about that many more.

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Oh, my goodness. And in my 20s, I was still hearing

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about half -brothers and sisters I did not know

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existed. Oh, my. Oh, wow. Yeah. Wow, wow, wow.

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Yeah. So it was a God thing. I love God's redemption.

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Yes, yes. He has such a way of turning all things

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together for good to them that love him and that

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are called according to his purpose. Amen. Wow.

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Amen. When I let go of that, it freed me. It

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brought me to another level that I never really

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thought I could get there. Yeah. I was still

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at that time extremely skinny and sickly. But

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then after that, God just began to change me,

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change my attitude, change my mindset, change

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the way I saw the world. I imagine that ulcer

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went away. As a result. Oh, yes, it did. Totally

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healed. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you know, unforgiveness

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eats you up. Oh, it does. It's like fire shut

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up in our bones, as the word tells us. And a

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lot of doctors I've talked to said not only causes

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ulcers, they said it also causes arthritis, extreme

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cases of arthritis because of bitterness and

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unforgiveness. Yeah. And also cancer. Oh, yes.

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Very much so. Yeah. I'll just bring it in here

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that Shirley Smith, Mama Shirley, had that testimony.

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And we'll put a link to her testimony of how

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she overcame cancer by forgiving. Yes. We'll

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put a link in the show notes for that because

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it's an incredible, glorious testimony. It is.

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It's amazing. But unforgiveness will affect your

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health. Yes, it will. And see, Mama Shirley was

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in the class that I came to go to Little Rock

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Bible School. So I was learning from her also.

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The Lord put us side by side in the classroom.

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Wow. And she helped me walk through that same

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thing. They were, her and James. No, Papa James

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was there, but I know she was there that night.

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And she is the one that began to help me walk

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through that process. She was there that night

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that the Lord touched you to forgive. I love

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that. Yeah, she was there because she was the

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one that was helping me walk through it. Wow.

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That's amazing. Yeah, it was. Glory to God. And

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as a result of you being in that Bible school,

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that's how you met our founder. Yes, exactly.

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She came to our Bible school one night and did

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a service for us. And I was just two years out

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of the Baptist church that I was 18, just graduated

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from high school in the spring. And I started

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there in the fall of 77. And that's when I met

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Shirley for the first time. And I had come in

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through the charismatic renewal. Our Baptist

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church that I attended, Became charismatic in

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one night. Wow. The entire church got the Holy

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Ghost in one night. Well, that sort of changes

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things, doesn't it? It did. But yet at the same

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time, I did not know all. And so when I saw Sister

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Gwen and her minister, I was just blown away.

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First of all, Mama Shirley. turned my life and

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world upside down. I said, this lady has Jesus

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coming in her living room. I want that. And then

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Sister Gwen comes and she ministers and she says,

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okay, I want to pray for every one of the students.

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So she lined us up, you know, side by side along

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the line. And I was near the end on this end

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and she was coming down and I had never been

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prophesied over before like that. I was a Baptist,

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little Baptist boy, you know, and I had heard

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about prophecy, but I never experienced it. Yeah.

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And this was new to me. And so I'm watching her

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come down the line and I'm thinking, you know,

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this is going to be different. And it was. She

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scared me. She scared a lot of people. He scared

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me, too. He ran from her. That's another story.

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We won't go there. She came to me and she went

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to pray for me and put her hands forward and

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she jumped back and went, oh. And I went. what

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have I done wrong? Is she seeing something? I

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thought I had done something wrong. And she didn't

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lean towards, oh, she said, I have never seen

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this before. And I'm thinking, what? As a little

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Baptist boy, I'm scared to death. I'm shaking,

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just about shaking, you know. She said, I see

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you being knitted together in your mother's womb

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for the end times, and you're going to carry

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the spirit of Elijah to the world. And should

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I see the globe turning three times? So your

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ministry will circle the world three times in

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the end times. So don't be worried. Your greatest

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ministry is not till the end. Wow. I was just

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shattered in a good way. Yeah, sure. You know,

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I'm thinking, okay, I'm 18 in times. How long

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is that going to be? Well, I'm 66. Right. Wow.

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Wow. Well, when Sharon was 18, when you had your

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encounter with the Holy Spirit. Yeah, under Sister

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Gwen. You know, I heard the Holy Spirit say,

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I want you. I want you 100%, and I want you right

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now. And as time went on, you know, within a

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few weeks, I was thinking, well, I've already

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got a scholarship at the music school at Western

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Michigan University. I'll just go for a year.

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And then I came to the first world convention

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in Dogpatch. That was my first one too, dog patch.

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Well, yeah, this was 76. Mine was in 78. Yeah.

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So nobody prophesied over me. I don't even remember

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a moment when it happened, but it was like I

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suddenly, gradually, I don't think it was sudden.

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I think I gradually came to the realization that

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if I went to college, I would never serve God.

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Oh, wow. So, you know, my thought was I'll go

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for one year and then I'll serve God. Nope. But

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then it was when Sister Gwen was speaking. Oh,

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yeah. That you heard the word. Yeah, I heard

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the Lord say you'll take her place when she's

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gone. Oh, wow. And that was 35 years later. Yeah,

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it was 37 years later when it came to pass. 37

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years later. So though the vision, Terry, wait

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for it. Yeah. I know what you mean because I've

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spoken all over the world and ministered all

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over the world. I've come close to almost soaring

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the globe. I said, well, Lord, I've been around

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almost one time. There's two more to come. I'm

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hanging on to that. Last night when I was praying,

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I said, Lord, remember Sister Gwen's prophecy?

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I said, I'm hanging on to that. I'm not letting

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it go. I want that fulfilled in my life. I want

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everything written in my book in heaven. I want

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to complete it before you call me home or the

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rapture takes place, whatever. Yes, absolutely.

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Now, you had a similar situation. with what I

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just described for myself about having to make

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a choice of, you know, are you going to go on

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to college? Are you going to go on to what the

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world has to offer? Are you going to serve God?

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So tell us that story. Well, when I was 22 years

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old, I got involved in a college scholarship

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program because I was wanting, you know, college

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students need money. And I was a socio, I would

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call, senior. So I got involved in this program

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where men and young girls, it was called the

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International Cinderella Girl and Prince Charming

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Talent Competition. And they gave out college

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scholarships. It was for college students. And

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by the miracle of God, I won the Southeastern

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Prince Charming Competition, which allowed me

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to go to the international competition where

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they gave away. larger sums of money and also

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a new car. And I'm thinking, Oh, I'd love to

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have a new car as a 22 year old. Yeah. And the

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Lord was gracious and merciful. And I came in

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second, didn't win, but came in second. And that

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gets you a college scholarship. Yeah. Yeah. I

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got some money for that. And was also the people,

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some of the people were there were big producers

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in, this was in California and Caesar's palace

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and Lake Tahoe's where we were doing the performance

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and the show. And it was. televised worldwide

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and some of the people working with us and the

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judges two of the judges was one was barbie benton

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i don't know if you remember her or not she was

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academy award actress and she was also had a

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hit number one single and and unfortunately she

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was also playmate of the year Oh, dear. Yeah,

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yeah. Okay. Yeah. Well, those accolades seem

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to go together, don't they? Exactly. And also,

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then another gentleman was some big soap opera

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star on these soap opera shows. I recognized

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him, but didn't know who he was. And then another

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one was a producer who also produced songs and

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had a studio in California, and he wrote Blue

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Suede Shoes and other things like that for Elvis

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and stuff. And another one was John Wayne's…

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Manager. and he also had a school for actors.

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And so I did my thing there and sang and everything.

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And also one of the people was Dr. Joyce Brothers.

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She was my dance partner on the show. Oh, my

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goodness. Got the dance with Dr. Joyce Brothers.

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I got offered contracts to record from the man

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who did the recording. I got offered a contract

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to go with John Wayne's guy. Moved permanently

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to California, and they said that I had the ability

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to become a star, is what you want to call it.

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And I went home, back home to Georgia, and started

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praying and talking with my pastor friends who

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were my mentors and my family. And I just felt,

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no, that's not what God wants. I'm supposed to

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do ministry. And so I just, you know, did what

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God's following into the ministry. Wow. That

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is so tremendous. Yeah. We make lots of choices

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in life. Yes. And, you know, sometimes you get

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that big carrot. Oh, my. Sometimes you get that

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big opportunity. Yes. You know, I had it in my

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head personally that, you know, I would go to

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music school and. You know, vocal was my main

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thing, but I was also a bassoonist, believe it

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or not. But not a good one. But my thought was,

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well, I'll go to school to become a music teacher,

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unless somebody discovers me. Well, actually,

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when she would sing something from the... The

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sounds of music or the Karen Carpenter to hear

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Sharon sing something of Karen Carpenter's song.

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You'd have a hard time telling it wasn't Karen

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Carpenter. So she modeled her voice after. But

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I started out listening to Julie Andrews on sound

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music. Oh, yes. So I learned all of those songs.

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And I'd stand out in the backyard on the stump

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and sing, you know, all that stuff. I never knew

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that. That's amazing. We're going to be married

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44 years in a couple weeks here, and you never

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told me that. The first song I did was To God

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Be the Glory. Oh, really? That's what I sang

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in front of the audience. And the second song

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I did was from... It's no business like show

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business. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Because, you know,

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I wanted to let them know that I was a Christian.

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Yeah. But then you had to do something that was

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a little, you know, it was an old Broadway musical.

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Sure. You know. Yeah. Yeah. And I love the old

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Broadway musicals. Yeah. You know, you and I

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were talking before we started this about how

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we both love musicals. Oh, yes. We were both

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into musicals, right? Yes. But I think there

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is something about maybe God wants some kind

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of, Christian musicals again. Oh, I do too. Very

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much so. It's been in my heart. Matter of fact,

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when I went to teach at the Christian high school

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that I was at, we started doing musicals and

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theater and I became not only teaching high school

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science, but also became the drama teacher. Wow.

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Yeah. And when we go to drama competitions, my

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team was known for bringing Christian drama.

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Wow. And that's what we always focused on was

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to get the message of Jesus Christ out through

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singing or through drama. Yeah. Yeah. You know,

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we don't get into going to movies and things

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like that. Do they even do musicals anymore?

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I have no idea. There's been a few. There's been

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a few. I think it was called, I just went blank

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on the name of it. It was a big hit, and it was

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about Barnum Bailey, how he started in New York

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City. It was a big music. It was a huge smash.

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Wow. And the vocals in there are incredible.

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Wow. Yeah. Well, there's just something about

00:24:48.200 --> 00:24:53.099
song that conveys a message that goes beyond

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just speaking. Oh, yes, yes. And we have to understand,

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from what research I've done in history, is that

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it's limited. It's not depth. But the musical

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died out and then came back during the Renaissance

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through the church. The church used it to tell

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the gospel of Jesus Christ in musical form because

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the people did not read. Or if they did, they

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were only educated or of the religious persuasion.

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So they started doing musicals in the church

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and plays in the church that draw the people.

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And that's where it came back during the Renaissance

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was in the church. It died out and then the church

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brought it back. Wow. Well, you know, you have

00:25:32.960 --> 00:25:37.160
Handel writing all of those oratorios. Yeah,

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Handel's Messiah just sends chills up my spine

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every time. Yeah, that was so anointing. A lot

00:25:43.420 --> 00:25:46.420
of times I just start crying. Yeah, that was

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part of my growing up, you know, because my mother

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and brother were professional violinists. And

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so they would, they perform it every year. Like

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on Friday night, they'd have the professional

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soloists and on Sunday afternoon, the student

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soloists. And so they were in the orchestra because

00:26:04.359 --> 00:26:07.359
it was a combination of professional and students.

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So I got dragged to that every year, you know,

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but it gets in you. It does. And then to get

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to sing parts of it too. I've loved that. My

00:26:17.380 --> 00:26:22.119
younger brother, it got into him also. I tell

00:26:22.119 --> 00:26:24.119
him all the time, I said, I love you, brother,

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but sometimes you just make me so mad because

00:26:26.000 --> 00:26:29.519
he's so talented musically. When he was like

00:26:29.519 --> 00:26:32.200
12 years old, he walked past the piano and hit

00:26:32.200 --> 00:26:34.380
a few keys. Oh, that sounds pretty. Within a

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year, he's playing anything you can think of.

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Just had just about five months of lessons and

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can play a piano like nobody's business and sing

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unbelievably. And then he was in musical theater

00:26:46.009 --> 00:26:48.349
in high school. And they said, we've got to have

00:26:48.349 --> 00:26:50.569
somebody to tap dance. He said, oh, I'll do it.

00:26:50.630 --> 00:26:52.750
The leader said, do you tap dance? No, but I'll

00:26:52.750 --> 00:26:55.470
learn. And he did. Yeah. He learned it within

00:26:55.470 --> 00:26:58.130
just a few weeks in tap dance. Wow. You know,

00:26:58.470 --> 00:27:03.250
creatives, creative people are just often able

00:27:03.250 --> 00:27:05.769
to pick up something that they've never done

00:27:05.769 --> 00:27:08.970
before. He's highly intelligent also. When they

00:27:08.970 --> 00:27:10.869
tested him in high school, he always tested at

00:27:10.869 --> 00:27:14.109
think tank level. Oh, my. So he has the brain

00:27:14.109 --> 00:27:17.849
and also the talent. I said, you just make me

00:27:17.849 --> 00:27:22.990
sick. No, but you've got your own set of gifts.

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And I want to just say this, that I admire, and

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I don't know you well, but I admire knowing your

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prayer life. Yes. So tell us a little bit about

00:27:36.049 --> 00:27:39.490
how you came into a prayer life. I'm going to

00:27:39.490 --> 00:27:42.190
be honest with you. Shirley Smith birthed me

00:27:42.190 --> 00:27:44.890
into my prayer life. It was not until I moved

00:27:44.890 --> 00:27:48.130
in with Shirley and James. I had an apartment

00:27:48.130 --> 00:27:50.369
living while I was going to college at the Bible

00:27:50.369 --> 00:27:54.500
school there in 77 and 78. and it was getting

00:27:54.500 --> 00:27:56.819
tight financially, and I started hanging out

00:27:56.819 --> 00:27:58.720
with James and Shirley, and they'd invite me

00:27:58.720 --> 00:28:00.680
over a lot and then spending time with them.

00:28:00.920 --> 00:28:03.799
And their daughter, Jamie, and I become fast,

00:28:03.940 --> 00:28:06.339
close friends. She's a year younger than I am,

00:28:06.440 --> 00:28:08.519
two years, almost two years. And we just became

00:28:08.519 --> 00:28:10.599
fast friends. They said, listen, there's no use

00:28:10.599 --> 00:28:13.039
in paying that rent. Just come on and start living

00:28:13.039 --> 00:28:16.220
with us. They had a huge house. And said, we

00:28:16.220 --> 00:28:18.829
got an extra bedroom. Nobody uses it. And when

00:28:18.829 --> 00:28:21.829
I started, I started seeing her prayer life.

00:28:22.029 --> 00:28:23.650
And then, of course, she said, come on, come

00:28:23.650 --> 00:28:26.009
on. And she'd take me into the living room and

00:28:26.009 --> 00:28:30.410
me, and we spent hours in prayer and seeking

00:28:30.410 --> 00:28:34.609
God and fasting. And I did not know that level

00:28:34.609 --> 00:28:38.970
of prayer existed. And then as I got there, I

00:28:38.970 --> 00:28:42.450
became so hungry for it. It's like, I got to

00:28:42.450 --> 00:28:45.769
have more. And we would spend hours in prayer

00:28:45.769 --> 00:28:49.829
and worship. It was the glory of God would show

00:28:49.829 --> 00:28:53.369
up in the presence of God, and you would just

00:28:53.369 --> 00:28:58.269
feel like your body was just being renewed during

00:28:58.269 --> 00:29:01.869
that times of prayer and intercession. Shirley

00:29:01.869 --> 00:29:04.730
and I, until she passed away recently, we talked

00:29:04.730 --> 00:29:07.190
about that, still talk about the 70s and the

00:29:07.190 --> 00:29:11.779
80s when God had us together. In James and the

00:29:11.779 --> 00:29:14.299
times that we spent in prayer and intercession.

00:29:14.900 --> 00:29:18.440
And any time Mama was getting ready to go on

00:29:18.440 --> 00:29:21.200
a trip, I would a lot of times call her up. Hey,

00:29:21.240 --> 00:29:22.440
Mama, surely you're getting ready to go on a

00:29:22.440 --> 00:29:24.299
trip somewhere, aren't you? She said, yeah, how

00:29:24.299 --> 00:29:28.460
did you know? I said, in prayer. And the Lord

00:29:28.460 --> 00:29:30.200
said, watch out for this, watch out for this,

00:29:30.200 --> 00:29:31.640
and look out for this. And she called me back.

00:29:31.660 --> 00:29:33.640
I have to go, exactly what you said is exactly

00:29:33.640 --> 00:29:37.519
what happened. And I had no idea. It's just the

00:29:37.519 --> 00:29:40.420
Holy Spirit. Right. When you get into that place

00:29:40.420 --> 00:29:45.200
of prayer, you get word of knowledge and you

00:29:45.200 --> 00:29:49.259
get visions and you get prophecies. Yes, you

00:29:49.259 --> 00:29:53.359
do. It's part of that life. As a pastor and as

00:29:53.359 --> 00:29:55.160
a minister, God called me first as a servant

00:29:55.160 --> 00:29:58.720
and second as a teacher. And I believe with all

00:29:58.720 --> 00:30:01.140
my heart is that being taught by Shirley to be

00:30:01.140 --> 00:30:05.369
an intercessor was the key. to all my ministry.

00:30:05.670 --> 00:30:08.529
It was that intercession because I'm a firm believer

00:30:08.529 --> 00:30:11.990
that not everybody's a prophet. Right. You know,

00:30:11.990 --> 00:30:14.089
but people that are prophets are workers who

00:30:14.089 --> 00:30:17.569
flow in prophecy. Like I tell people, I'm a minister.

00:30:17.730 --> 00:30:20.750
I flow in prophecy. I'm not a prophet. But if

00:30:20.750 --> 00:30:22.470
you're going to flow in prophecy or be a prophet,

00:30:22.569 --> 00:30:24.930
you had better be an intercessor. If you're not

00:30:24.930 --> 00:30:27.250
an intercessor, I'm sorry. You're not a prophet.

00:30:27.740 --> 00:30:30.420
Wow. That's my personal opinion. As my grandfather

00:30:30.420 --> 00:30:33.619
used to say, that's like noses. Everybody has

00:30:33.619 --> 00:30:42.039
one. So, you know, I credit the intercessory

00:30:42.039 --> 00:30:44.759
prayer that was taught to me by Mama Shirley

00:30:44.759 --> 00:30:50.420
as what? It changed my life. Sister Gwen, watching

00:30:50.420 --> 00:30:54.299
her pray over people and the heart that poured

00:30:54.299 --> 00:30:58.599
out of her. Oh, my goodness. And to see how she

00:30:58.599 --> 00:31:01.079
moved with the Spirit of God. And same thing

00:31:01.079 --> 00:31:03.240
with Mama Shirley. It's like, Lord, I want that.

00:31:03.700 --> 00:31:07.220
I want what they have. And I'm so thankful that

00:31:07.220 --> 00:31:11.240
God gave me spiritual mothers that didn't look

00:31:11.240 --> 00:31:14.420
at where I came from. That taught me where I

00:31:14.420 --> 00:31:19.269
needed to go. And I say this often, that spiritual

00:31:19.269 --> 00:31:23.569
mothers know better what a son needs more than

00:31:23.569 --> 00:31:27.049
the son himself needs. Yeah, that's true. Now,

00:31:27.049 --> 00:31:30.430
one of the things that happened was that Shirley

00:31:30.430 --> 00:31:33.369
and James took you to Mexico. Yes. Tell us that

00:31:33.369 --> 00:31:36.250
story. I had went through a tragedy in my life

00:31:36.250 --> 00:31:40.230
in my mid -20s. And I called James, and James

00:31:40.230 --> 00:31:44.759
said, son, come home. So I came home. back to

00:31:44.759 --> 00:31:48.400
Little Rock, North Little Rock, and began the

00:31:48.400 --> 00:31:51.539
healing process with them again, prayer, fasting,

00:31:51.759 --> 00:31:55.579
seeking God. And as I began to, God began to

00:31:55.579 --> 00:31:57.440
heal me and bring me back to where I needed to

00:31:57.440 --> 00:32:01.019
be. And I was there about two years this time.

00:32:01.319 --> 00:32:04.559
And then a friend of ours who was a missionary

00:32:04.559 --> 00:32:07.500
in Mexico in a place called the Rincon de Romas

00:32:07.500 --> 00:32:11.720
Aguas Calientes, Paulina Shinners. Shirley and

00:32:11.720 --> 00:32:14.140
her had been friends for many years. And she

00:32:14.140 --> 00:32:16.640
said, we're going to Mexico with Paulina. I said,

00:32:16.700 --> 00:32:18.720
oh, that's wonderful. I've never been to Mexico.

00:32:18.740 --> 00:32:20.920
I've never been on a missions trip. She said,

00:32:20.960 --> 00:32:25.619
but you're going to stay. And I look at Mama.

00:32:25.660 --> 00:32:28.720
I said, what? I'm what? I said, yes, you need

00:32:28.720 --> 00:32:31.140
to go and you need to stay with Paulina for a

00:32:31.140 --> 00:32:34.940
while. I said, okay, Mama. I trusted her. Yeah.

00:32:35.240 --> 00:32:38.619
You know, I trusted her. Yeah. She had a proven

00:32:38.619 --> 00:32:40.519
track record. Oh, yes, very much so. Her and

00:32:40.519 --> 00:32:43.819
James both. If something was going on in my life,

00:32:44.160 --> 00:32:46.720
James, he would know it. He would call, and he'd

00:32:46.720 --> 00:32:50.259
know what was going on. He was not active like

00:32:50.259 --> 00:32:53.720
Shirley was, but he was in tune with the Spirit.

00:32:54.119 --> 00:32:58.680
Glory to God. And I said, okay, Mama. And I fell

00:32:58.680 --> 00:33:01.920
in love with Sister Paulina. Oh, we had the best

00:33:01.920 --> 00:33:08.069
time. The first time I ever saw Jesus, literally,

00:33:08.109 --> 00:33:11.289
he came into the house where we were at, in Paulina's

00:33:11.289 --> 00:33:14.769
house. I got down there, and I traveled around

00:33:14.769 --> 00:33:16.630
with them, helping them do the ministry, spoke

00:33:16.630 --> 00:33:19.430
a little bit, and then came time. They were there

00:33:19.430 --> 00:33:21.170
for about a month, or maybe a little less than

00:33:21.170 --> 00:33:23.069
a month. It came time for them to go back home,

00:33:23.170 --> 00:33:26.450
and I was staying there with Paulina. So I got

00:33:26.450 --> 00:33:28.809
in my room, and I got my Bible, my little notepad,

00:33:28.809 --> 00:33:31.529
which I still do notepads. I'm old school. I

00:33:31.529 --> 00:33:34.640
got one sitting right here. And I began to, because

00:33:34.640 --> 00:33:36.819
I want to write down what God's saying to me.

00:33:36.980 --> 00:33:39.660
Yeah. I said, okay, Lord, I'm here. I'm ready

00:33:39.660 --> 00:33:42.000
to go. I'm ready to preach. You know, and he

00:33:42.000 --> 00:33:46.720
said, sit down, shut up and listen. You're not

00:33:46.720 --> 00:33:49.019
going to do anything until I put what I need

00:33:49.019 --> 00:33:53.559
to put into you. Wow. I said, yes, sir. So I

00:33:53.559 --> 00:33:55.559
told Pauline what the Lord had said. And I said,

00:33:55.579 --> 00:33:58.099
and the Lord, I'm supposed to start a fast. She

00:33:58.099 --> 00:34:01.319
said, I will fast with you. Wow. So we started

00:34:01.319 --> 00:34:05.339
a fast. And on the third day, I'm in my room.

00:34:05.779 --> 00:34:08.059
And Paulina is in the living room, which I can

00:34:08.059 --> 00:34:09.639
see through the door to the living room. And

00:34:09.639 --> 00:34:12.139
a young lady that she had sent to Bible school,

00:34:12.219 --> 00:34:14.320
training to become a pastor, she was there also.

00:34:14.500 --> 00:34:17.219
She didn't live far away. And she was there also

00:34:17.219 --> 00:34:19.599
in the living room. And they were talking. And

00:34:19.599 --> 00:34:21.579
I was just seeking the Lord and praying and asking

00:34:21.579 --> 00:34:24.199
God, you know what? The presence of God began

00:34:24.199 --> 00:34:28.820
to change in the room. And the next thing I know,

00:34:28.940 --> 00:34:34.070
I am laying on the floor. And where I'm laying,

00:34:34.170 --> 00:34:36.409
I can see out the door of my room into the living

00:34:36.409 --> 00:34:39.809
room. And I happened to notice Pauline is on

00:34:39.809 --> 00:34:42.630
the floor, and so was the young lady. We're all

00:34:42.630 --> 00:34:44.530
three on the floor, and we're all three focused

00:34:44.530 --> 00:34:46.929
to the center of the living room. And I look

00:34:46.929 --> 00:34:49.150
up, and the ceiling of the living room opens

00:34:49.150 --> 00:34:53.230
up. And glory clouds start coming down. Wow.

00:34:53.730 --> 00:34:58.550
And then the feet and the robe. Oh, my. And I

00:34:58.550 --> 00:35:03.110
felt like I was melting into the floor. Wow.

00:35:03.389 --> 00:35:07.369
My DNA felt like it was coming apart. Wow. And

00:35:07.369 --> 00:35:10.030
I said, Jesus, I knew it was Jesus. I said, Jesus,

00:35:10.090 --> 00:35:15.170
I can't breathe. I said, Lord, I almost couldn't

00:35:15.170 --> 00:35:18.090
handle it. The glory. Never saw his face because

00:35:18.090 --> 00:35:21.989
the glory was so bright. Saw his body and his

00:35:21.989 --> 00:35:25.889
robe and the glory in his hands, but never saw

00:35:25.889 --> 00:35:28.489
the face because I could not raise my head up

00:35:28.489 --> 00:35:31.650
enough to see once this started taking place.

00:35:32.839 --> 00:35:35.039
literally felt like melting into the floor. One

00:35:35.039 --> 00:35:37.760
time I said, Lord, you got to stop. You're killing

00:35:37.760 --> 00:35:42.440
me. I'm going to die. It was so strong. And the

00:35:42.440 --> 00:35:45.380
Lord began to tell me and speak to me and said,

00:35:45.420 --> 00:35:47.440
son, I've called you for the end times. You're

00:35:47.440 --> 00:35:50.320
going to be a son of God. And I thought to myself,

00:35:50.440 --> 00:35:52.099
I know this is kind of off track, but I thought

00:35:52.099 --> 00:35:54.079
to myself right then, I know this is, I'm human.

00:35:54.119 --> 00:35:57.500
I'm sorry. Back then there was a thing going

00:35:57.500 --> 00:35:59.199
around called the sons of God, and they'd gotten

00:35:59.199 --> 00:36:02.570
into a lot of false teachings. And I said, Lord,

00:36:02.670 --> 00:36:06.630
that's false teaching. And he said, no. And he

00:36:06.630 --> 00:36:10.650
said, talk to Paulina. And I said, okay. And

00:36:10.650 --> 00:36:13.409
little by little, the glory began to change me,

00:36:13.449 --> 00:36:15.809
and I began to, and just little by little, he

00:36:15.809 --> 00:36:19.869
lifted and went back up and was gone. It was

00:36:19.869 --> 00:36:21.789
probably an hour later before I was able to get

00:36:21.789 --> 00:36:26.670
off the floor. And I was so weak. And I finally

00:36:26.670 --> 00:36:29.380
was able to get to the living room. And Pauline

00:36:29.380 --> 00:36:31.380
and the young lady are now sitting in their chairs.

00:36:31.460 --> 00:36:33.340
They're the same way. They're just wiped out.

00:36:33.659 --> 00:36:36.199
And I asked, I said, did you? They said, yep.

00:36:36.280 --> 00:36:39.619
And they described exactly what I had seen. They

00:36:39.619 --> 00:36:42.119
had seen also. And we had not communicated to

00:36:42.119 --> 00:36:45.780
each other until an hour later. Wow. And then

00:36:45.780 --> 00:36:47.800
I asked Pauline, I said, Pauline, what does this

00:36:47.800 --> 00:36:51.280
mean, the sons of God? And she took and taught

00:36:51.280 --> 00:36:54.400
me for the next several days what it really meant

00:36:54.400 --> 00:36:56.599
to be a son of God and the revelation of the

00:36:56.599 --> 00:37:00.619
sons of God. Wow. And that turned my world upside

00:37:00.619 --> 00:37:03.340
down and put me on the path that I'm still on

00:37:03.340 --> 00:37:07.099
today. Wow. Yeah. Since I was about 25 then.

00:37:07.139 --> 00:37:11.760
I'm 66. Wow. A 40 -year journey. And he's just

00:37:11.760 --> 00:37:15.059
as powerful now as he was then. Yeah. Glory to

00:37:15.059 --> 00:37:20.119
God. Oh, praise God. So for years you have taught

00:37:20.119 --> 00:37:24.320
school. You've pastored. Yes. I was a youth pastor

00:37:24.320 --> 00:37:26.860
for many years. Matter of fact, they used to

00:37:26.860 --> 00:37:28.960
call me the oldest continuing youth pastor in

00:37:28.960 --> 00:37:34.519
captivity. That's hilarious. And the Lord gracious

00:37:34.519 --> 00:37:36.539
was to allow me to be a youth pastor. They're

00:37:36.539 --> 00:37:39.920
my heart. Youth are my heart. Then the Lord moved

00:37:39.920 --> 00:37:43.460
me in to become a senior pastor. And the church

00:37:43.460 --> 00:37:45.519
I went to was a small church, so I had to get

00:37:45.519 --> 00:37:48.059
a job. So I have a degree in Christian education

00:37:48.059 --> 00:37:51.099
and a minor in science. So I became a science

00:37:51.099 --> 00:37:53.519
teacher at the local private Christian school,

00:37:53.659 --> 00:37:55.519
which was a very large school. It was one of

00:37:55.519 --> 00:37:57.539
the largest in the States we had at the time,

00:37:57.559 --> 00:38:01.000
about 800 students. And so I became the middle

00:38:01.000 --> 00:38:03.630
school science teacher. Then the Lord moved me

00:38:03.630 --> 00:38:05.250
up to become the high school science teacher,

00:38:05.389 --> 00:38:10.090
which I love because I'm with kids. I preach

00:38:10.090 --> 00:38:11.929
to the adults on Sunday and Wednesday night and

00:38:11.929 --> 00:38:13.650
I hang out with the kids Monday through Friday.

00:38:14.769 --> 00:38:16.909
That's awesome. So I said, how do you do it?

00:38:16.909 --> 00:38:20.150
I said, just bounce right along with them. And

00:38:20.150 --> 00:38:22.289
I looked at that and I was talking to a friend

00:38:22.289 --> 00:38:23.969
of mine. He says, Ken, you're in the modern day

00:38:23.969 --> 00:38:26.840
youth. pastor now because the school he said

00:38:26.840 --> 00:38:30.179
is is a right ground for you so i was able to

00:38:30.179 --> 00:38:32.619
praise god able to lead many young people to

00:38:32.619 --> 00:38:36.260
the lord and then they the school asked me to

00:38:36.260 --> 00:38:37.980
not only teach science but also to teach the

00:38:37.980 --> 00:38:41.679
10th graders theology so every for years on after

00:38:41.679 --> 00:38:44.559
that i taught the 10th graders theology from

00:38:44.559 --> 00:38:46.679
we started from the very beginning book of the

00:38:46.679 --> 00:38:49.780
bible to the end of the bible Wow. So the Lord

00:38:49.780 --> 00:38:53.000
was just so gracious to me to allow me to do

00:38:53.000 --> 00:38:56.159
that. That's tremendous. And I miss the kids

00:38:56.159 --> 00:39:00.460
tremendously. I do. And the Lord then, after

00:39:00.460 --> 00:39:03.480
I was there at that school for 17 years while

00:39:03.480 --> 00:39:07.179
I was ministering, pastoring and stuff. And then

00:39:07.179 --> 00:39:09.619
the Lord said, okay, time's coming to an end.

00:39:09.760 --> 00:39:11.619
And the Lord moved me on from that. And then

00:39:11.619 --> 00:39:15.199
I was still pastoring, had a really severe audible

00:39:15.199 --> 00:39:20.329
accident, me and my family. And I was the only

00:39:20.329 --> 00:39:23.550
one injured, praise the Lord for that. But it's

00:39:23.550 --> 00:39:27.250
a miracle I survived. A lady pulled out in front

00:39:27.250 --> 00:39:31.210
of us, and I T -boned her. And my airbag did

00:39:31.210 --> 00:39:34.190
not deploy. And I hit the door frame, the metal

00:39:34.190 --> 00:39:36.010
door frame between the door and the windshield.

00:39:36.539 --> 00:39:39.679
my head and neck and almost broke my neck and

00:39:39.679 --> 00:39:42.260
messed my back up. Knee went through the end

00:39:42.260 --> 00:39:46.719
of the dash. And I've had two major back surgeries,

00:39:46.860 --> 00:39:50.300
two neck surgeries, a knee surgery, and bone

00:39:50.300 --> 00:39:53.000
from both hips to rebuild my neck and back with,

00:39:53.119 --> 00:39:55.280
and metal plates and screws and rods. And they

00:39:55.280 --> 00:39:57.860
said I would never walk again. They're wrong.

00:39:58.019 --> 00:40:02.579
I walk. Glory to God. But what did you say to

00:40:02.579 --> 00:40:05.059
the doctor? I said to the doctor, I said, but

00:40:05.059 --> 00:40:08.010
Jesus. That's some exact words to him, but Jesus.

00:40:08.170 --> 00:40:11.530
I walk because of Jesus. Yeah. And they said,

00:40:11.570 --> 00:40:14.389
well, because there's places in my spine that

00:40:14.389 --> 00:40:16.409
are still, they can't do surgery on because of

00:40:16.409 --> 00:40:19.409
where they're located. And so I still have ruptured

00:40:19.409 --> 00:40:21.949
discs that are cutting nerves in two. And they

00:40:21.949 --> 00:40:23.550
said, well, eventually you'll be in a wheelchair.

00:40:24.090 --> 00:40:27.730
I said, no. When I go in to see another, they

00:40:27.730 --> 00:40:29.389
said, we're going to see this specialist. And

00:40:29.389 --> 00:40:31.070
I walk in and they look at my records. They said,

00:40:31.150 --> 00:40:33.449
you just walked through that door. I said, mm

00:40:33.449 --> 00:40:35.969
-hmm. They said, that's impossible. Not with

00:40:35.969 --> 00:40:40.110
Jesus, it's not. They said, and you're working?

00:40:40.510 --> 00:40:43.329
No, that's not possible. There's no way you can

00:40:43.329 --> 00:40:46.929
work. And then they had, that was the first surgery.

00:40:46.989 --> 00:40:50.369
The second surgery they had on my back. He told

00:40:50.369 --> 00:40:52.070
me that, he said, it'll take you five years to

00:40:52.070 --> 00:40:56.670
get over it. Wow. And it did. He was right. I

00:40:56.670 --> 00:41:00.110
was housebound for five years. Of the last seven

00:41:00.110 --> 00:41:02.889
years, five of those. In my home, I had to give

00:41:02.889 --> 00:41:07.170
up pastoring, leave my church and the ministry

00:41:07.170 --> 00:41:10.929
because I was not able to walk except for one

00:41:10.929 --> 00:41:12.809
hour a day. They would only let me sit up for

00:41:12.809 --> 00:41:15.369
an hour a day. And they said, because in the

00:41:15.369 --> 00:41:18.250
past, the surgery I had, you would usually be

00:41:18.250 --> 00:41:21.489
in a body cast for a year. And I said, thank

00:41:21.489 --> 00:41:24.849
God for the new technology. Thank God for that.

00:41:25.559 --> 00:41:27.519
And the first thing that I told you earlier that

00:41:27.519 --> 00:41:29.840
I did when they released me was I said, Mama

00:41:29.840 --> 00:41:32.360
Shirley, we're going to convention. Wow. And

00:41:32.360 --> 00:41:34.539
that's where I came. I came back. Because the

00:41:34.539 --> 00:41:36.179
last time I was here in the Valley was in the

00:41:36.179 --> 00:41:39.420
80s. Yeah. Wow. So I said, and the last convention

00:41:39.420 --> 00:41:42.300
I physically attended was in Atlanta. Yeah. And

00:41:42.300 --> 00:41:45.800
the accident happened after that. Wow. But I

00:41:45.800 --> 00:41:47.340
watched it on YouTube. When y 'all started doing

00:41:47.340 --> 00:41:49.099
YouTube live streaming, I started watching it

00:41:49.099 --> 00:41:51.840
there through the TV. Oh, wow. But this was my

00:41:51.840 --> 00:41:54.179
first time back. I said, I'm going to convention.

00:41:54.780 --> 00:41:57.599
I said, I'm sorry. I said that, you know, I got

00:41:57.599 --> 00:42:00.400
to get back into what I know, you know, because

00:42:00.400 --> 00:42:02.460
it was a tough five years. But at the same time,

00:42:02.559 --> 00:42:04.980
God poured so much into me. That was my next

00:42:04.980 --> 00:42:08.559
question. So what what was the outcome spiritually

00:42:08.559 --> 00:42:12.280
while you're. You cloistered with God for four

00:42:12.280 --> 00:42:14.900
or five years. I devoured books that God would

00:42:14.900 --> 00:42:18.400
put in my pathway. I think I read every—I haven't

00:42:18.400 --> 00:42:20.539
finished reading them all, but I'm close. Rick

00:42:20.539 --> 00:42:23.079
Joyner's books. I just went blank on the name

00:42:23.079 --> 00:42:25.800
one. The Final Quest? Yes, The Final Quest. I

00:42:25.800 --> 00:42:27.360
have read that thing several times. Yeah, we've

00:42:27.360 --> 00:42:29.900
read that two or three times. It's one of my

00:42:29.900 --> 00:42:33.400
favorite books in all the world. And God just

00:42:33.400 --> 00:42:37.210
started pouring into me and started— teaching

00:42:37.210 --> 00:42:40.090
me right because for so long i had poured out

00:42:40.090 --> 00:42:43.329
exactly i had and at one time it was almost like

00:42:43.329 --> 00:42:45.289
i felt like well i reckon god had to sit me down

00:42:45.289 --> 00:42:47.570
so he could you know get me where i needed to

00:42:47.570 --> 00:42:50.349
be yes because he has an assignment for you to

00:42:50.349 --> 00:42:52.989
go around the world three times in the end times

00:42:52.989 --> 00:42:55.969
exactly and i said well lord and you know i like

00:42:55.969 --> 00:42:58.590
mexico you set me down told me to shut up so

00:42:58.590 --> 00:43:03.210
i could listen again And the Lord really began

00:43:03.210 --> 00:43:05.750
to share things with me and show me things that,

00:43:05.789 --> 00:43:07.769
honestly, I've not shared with people because,

00:43:07.949 --> 00:43:09.789
you know, I thought people would not receive

00:43:09.789 --> 00:43:12.989
it. But then when I came to convention, lo and

00:43:12.989 --> 00:43:15.510
behold, what's being taught is exactly what the

00:43:15.510 --> 00:43:18.329
Lord had been telling me for five years. Glory

00:43:18.329 --> 00:43:20.250
to God. And I'm thinking, oh, I'm on target.

00:43:20.630 --> 00:43:22.949
Exactly. Yeah, I'm on target. And I started writing

00:43:22.949 --> 00:43:26.969
a book on frequency and sound from heaven, the

00:43:26.969 --> 00:43:31.090
frequencies and sounds of heaven. I spoke to

00:43:31.090 --> 00:43:33.869
one of the men who was speaking, Etienne Bloom,

00:43:33.929 --> 00:43:38.130
Blom Bloom. And at the last service, I got the

00:43:38.130 --> 00:43:40.989
nerve and the courage to go talk to him. And

00:43:40.989 --> 00:43:44.230
I just asked him about sound and frequency. He

00:43:44.230 --> 00:43:47.010
says, well, Ken, tell me what you have. And I

00:43:47.010 --> 00:43:48.829
told him the research and where God was leading

00:43:48.829 --> 00:43:51.690
me. He said, I have everything you have, but

00:43:51.690 --> 00:43:53.909
God will not let me write that book. Please write

00:43:53.909 --> 00:43:57.909
that book, and I want a copy. And so I went to

00:43:57.909 --> 00:44:01.119
go finish my book. And Satan has fought it. I

00:44:01.119 --> 00:44:02.619
have not been able to finish it in two years

00:44:02.619 --> 00:44:05.920
because I had it on a laptop that was, I'm not

00:44:05.920 --> 00:44:09.099
going to say the name. Yeah. Very expensive though.

00:44:09.159 --> 00:44:11.360
Let's put it that way. Very expensive laptop.

00:44:11.579 --> 00:44:14.440
A month after its warranty ran out, it went black.

00:44:14.940 --> 00:44:17.820
Wow. I was opening it to work on it. It went

00:44:17.820 --> 00:44:21.760
black. And I had not made a hard copy. Ouch.

00:44:22.039 --> 00:44:25.099
Yeah. That was my fault. Or a backup. That was

00:44:25.099 --> 00:44:28.489
my fault. So it's been stuck. I took it to the

00:44:28.489 --> 00:44:31.289
experts. They're experts. And they couldn't even

00:44:31.289 --> 00:44:33.730
get it to open and get the stuff out. It took

00:44:33.730 --> 00:44:36.989
them for months and months and months for this

00:44:36.989 --> 00:44:40.130
able to finally get it onto a flash drive. Wow.

00:44:40.349 --> 00:44:42.630
And the flash drive is written in that certain

00:44:42.630 --> 00:44:45.909
company's processing and other computers won't

00:44:45.909 --> 00:44:49.159
read it. So now I found someone who has that

00:44:49.159 --> 00:44:51.039
computer, so I'm going to take it to them and

00:44:51.039 --> 00:44:55.239
have it transposed into another style so that

00:44:55.239 --> 00:44:57.380
other computers will read it so I can finish

00:44:57.380 --> 00:45:02.119
it. Wow. Yeah. Wow, wow, wow. The devil doesn't

00:45:02.119 --> 00:45:04.880
want that book out. No, he has slaughtered tooth

00:45:04.880 --> 00:45:09.059
and nail. Wow. He has, but you know, that's where

00:45:09.059 --> 00:45:10.980
God had me. He had me for five years pouring

00:45:10.980 --> 00:45:14.179
into me. Yes. And I'll be honest with you, I

00:45:14.179 --> 00:45:16.559
was never that type of person who listened to

00:45:16.559 --> 00:45:18.639
people on TV to preach or teach. God wouldn't

00:45:18.639 --> 00:45:21.559
let me. The whole time I was pastoring and ministering,

00:45:21.579 --> 00:45:23.460
every once in a while he would let me listen

00:45:23.460 --> 00:45:26.840
to a certain individual. But he would not let

00:45:26.840 --> 00:45:29.239
me. He says, no, I want to give this to you.

00:45:29.340 --> 00:45:30.880
I don't want you to learn this from someone.

00:45:31.440 --> 00:45:33.679
So God would give me things and I'd go preach

00:45:33.679 --> 00:45:35.099
it. Oh, you heard that from Brother So and said,

00:45:35.219 --> 00:45:37.579
who? Oh, you don't know him? No, I've never heard

00:45:37.579 --> 00:45:40.679
of him. Oh, he preached that. I said. I didn't

00:45:40.679 --> 00:45:42.880
get it from him. This is what the Lord gave me.

00:45:43.820 --> 00:45:45.880
That's how you know it's the Lord. Exactly. Because

00:45:45.880 --> 00:45:48.579
he's given it to somebody else too. Exactly right.

00:45:48.699 --> 00:45:51.340
And that's where God had me for five years. He

00:45:51.340 --> 00:45:55.159
had me pouring into me, teaching me. The teacher

00:45:55.159 --> 00:45:58.119
needed to be taught again. Yeah. It's called

00:45:58.119 --> 00:46:01.019
continuing education. That's exactly right. And

00:46:01.019 --> 00:46:03.679
who better than the Holy Spirit? Exactly. He's

00:46:03.679 --> 00:46:06.440
the teacher. Yeah, he's the teacher. Wow. So

00:46:06.440 --> 00:46:10.019
you came to our convention this year. Yes. And

00:46:10.019 --> 00:46:13.280
you had an experience. Tell us about that. It

00:46:13.280 --> 00:46:17.760
was on the 22nd of May of this year. And the

00:46:17.760 --> 00:46:20.699
group called Three O 'Clock. Yeah, Three O 'Clock

00:46:20.699 --> 00:46:24.219
Session. Yeah, I loved them. I loved all the

00:46:24.219 --> 00:46:26.219
worship because I'm the type of person who likes

00:46:26.219 --> 00:46:29.500
many different styles of worship. We sure have

00:46:29.500 --> 00:46:33.159
them. I do. I love many different styles of worship.

00:46:33.280 --> 00:46:36.260
And they were leading the worship. And during

00:46:36.260 --> 00:46:38.880
the worship, I had an open vision. Yeah. I was

00:46:38.880 --> 00:46:41.360
sitting in the back on the left in my station

00:46:41.360 --> 00:46:43.780
where I was stationed to help serve and do whatever

00:46:43.780 --> 00:46:47.559
you need to be done. And I look up and the heavens

00:46:47.559 --> 00:46:50.219
open and the ceiling opens and this gigantic

00:46:50.219 --> 00:46:54.320
marble staircase comes out of the heavens over

00:46:54.320 --> 00:46:57.519
the singers and the bottom of it lands in the

00:46:57.519 --> 00:47:01.230
altar. Wow. And I've seen staircases and ladders

00:47:01.230 --> 00:47:03.389
from heaven before. And, of course, I knew what

00:47:03.389 --> 00:47:06.710
was coming next, the angels. Sure. And here come

00:47:06.710 --> 00:47:09.409
the worshiper angels. They came in and started

00:47:09.409 --> 00:47:12.989
worshiping with us. And then came in the warfare

00:47:12.989 --> 00:47:16.210
angels. Wow. Came in. And the Lord says, no,

00:47:16.369 --> 00:47:19.530
don't pay attention to them. Pay attention to

00:47:19.530 --> 00:47:21.789
the details of the staircase. He's never told

00:47:21.789 --> 00:47:24.730
me that before. Wow. So I started looking. I

00:47:24.730 --> 00:47:28.280
said, oh. It's marble. He said, yes, it's marble.

00:47:28.579 --> 00:47:31.699
And he said, as a science teacher, you know how

00:47:31.699 --> 00:47:34.840
marble is formed. I said, yes, under great intense

00:47:34.840 --> 00:47:37.639
pressure and heat. And it starts out as one type

00:47:37.639 --> 00:47:40.099
of rock. And then under that intense heat and

00:47:40.099 --> 00:47:44.059
pressure, it becomes marble. And also he said,

00:47:44.159 --> 00:47:46.960
you know, the impurities that are in that first

00:47:46.960 --> 00:47:50.820
stone is what gives the marble its design and

00:47:50.820 --> 00:47:52.920
its color and its patterns and makes it beautiful.

00:47:53.469 --> 00:47:56.349
So he takes our impurities. Oh, that preaches,

00:47:56.369 --> 00:47:59.530
doesn't it? Yeah. He said, I take these impurities,

00:47:59.670 --> 00:48:02.650
your failures, your faults, and I take it and

00:48:02.650 --> 00:48:05.550
put it under pressure and intense heat and fire

00:48:05.550 --> 00:48:10.010
and change you and make you into marble, into

00:48:10.010 --> 00:48:16.110
a new rock. And he said, when my people sacrifice

00:48:16.110 --> 00:48:20.449
with praise and obedience. through that fire

00:48:20.449 --> 00:48:22.969
and that pressure, and they live in obedience

00:48:22.969 --> 00:48:28.190
to me and sacrifice for me, they become the stairway

00:48:28.190 --> 00:48:30.789
for the angels, for the heavenly host to descend

00:48:30.789 --> 00:48:35.420
on. Wow. It says you actually become the steps,

00:48:35.559 --> 00:48:38.679
the stairway, because you have paid the price

00:48:38.679 --> 00:48:41.820
for the heavens to be open there and for them

00:48:41.820 --> 00:48:45.059
to come in to worship with you. You are the marble.

00:48:45.179 --> 00:48:49.119
You are the staircase. Wow. And it just blew

00:48:49.119 --> 00:48:54.840
me away. My mouth hanging open. And then, of

00:48:54.840 --> 00:48:58.199
course, the Lord told me, 1 Peter 2, about living

00:48:58.199 --> 00:49:01.239
stones. We are living stones. We're becoming

00:49:01.239 --> 00:49:04.880
living stones. And I wrote it down. As soon as

00:49:04.880 --> 00:49:07.739
it was finished, my notebook was right there,

00:49:07.760 --> 00:49:10.619
as usual. Went to writing as fast as I could.

00:49:11.039 --> 00:49:14.940
And I got through, and the next day, Matthew

00:49:14.940 --> 00:49:17.480
comes by. Matthew was just here. Matthew Reams.

00:49:17.679 --> 00:49:19.780
Yeah, he comes by. I said, Matthew, read this.

00:49:20.269 --> 00:49:24.110
He looked at me and said, dude, you know how

00:49:24.110 --> 00:49:27.230
he is. He said, did that staircase look like

00:49:27.230 --> 00:49:28.929
the staircase from Gone with the Wind, the big

00:49:28.929 --> 00:49:31.449
winding? I said, yes, you described it to a T.

00:49:31.650 --> 00:49:35.590
He said, I saw it not before that. Wow. So there

00:49:35.590 --> 00:49:39.610
was my first confirmation. Glory to God. So I

00:49:39.610 --> 00:49:43.070
got it, and I said, well, take this, take a copy.

00:49:43.170 --> 00:49:45.809
And I gave him a copy to give to you, but it

00:49:45.809 --> 00:49:47.889
was so busy, I'm sure he just forgot to give

00:49:47.889 --> 00:49:49.909
it to you. Or he might have given it to me, and

00:49:49.909 --> 00:49:53.130
it got lost in the papers. Exactly. That's why

00:49:53.130 --> 00:49:54.449
I didn't want to disturb you, because I knew

00:49:54.449 --> 00:49:58.610
you were so busy, so busy. And the Lord said,

00:49:59.050 --> 00:50:01.329
this is the new teaching I want you to start

00:50:01.329 --> 00:50:07.110
working on. Wow. Through sacrifice. And through

00:50:07.110 --> 00:50:11.849
praise and being obedient that we open the heavens

00:50:11.849 --> 00:50:14.889
so that the host of heavens can come down and

00:50:14.889 --> 00:50:18.360
minister with us and among us. Amen. Amen. And

00:50:18.360 --> 00:50:21.619
to get to that point before you become a stairway,

00:50:21.699 --> 00:50:25.139
you go through some pressure and some heat. Oh,

00:50:25.139 --> 00:50:27.139
yes. It's only through that pressure. It's only

00:50:27.139 --> 00:50:30.119
through being obedient and walking through the

00:50:30.119 --> 00:50:35.199
sacrifice, paying the price that we become, we

00:50:35.199 --> 00:50:39.320
change from the original stone and become the

00:50:39.320 --> 00:50:42.500
living stone. Beautiful, beautiful, beautiful.

00:50:42.840 --> 00:50:47.230
Wow. That's tremendous. That's awesome. Oh, that's

00:50:47.230 --> 00:50:50.969
a Selah moment, isn't it? Isn't it? Well, Pastor

00:50:50.969 --> 00:50:52.869
Ken, would you please pray for our listeners

00:50:52.869 --> 00:50:58.050
and just as the Lord leads you? Amen. Dear Heavenly

00:50:58.050 --> 00:51:02.050
Father, I come to you in the mighty name of Jesus

00:51:02.050 --> 00:51:06.150
our Christ. I want to praise you, first of all,

00:51:06.150 --> 00:51:10.829
for your love, Lord. You love us so much, God,

00:51:10.969 --> 00:51:16.650
that you sent your precious Son for us. And God,

00:51:16.710 --> 00:51:18.929
not only for us that are here, but for everyone

00:51:18.929 --> 00:51:22.949
that is listening, you poured out yourself that

00:51:22.949 --> 00:51:27.409
they may be saved, healed, delivered, oh God.

00:51:28.010 --> 00:51:31.130
Whatever they are walking through right now,

00:51:31.190 --> 00:51:33.570
their children are walking through, your precious

00:51:33.570 --> 00:51:37.179
souls, God. We stand upon the word of God and

00:51:37.179 --> 00:51:40.199
believe that you're going to work a miracle in

00:51:40.199 --> 00:51:42.900
their lives. We stand upon the word of God for

00:51:42.900 --> 00:51:45.639
those that are sick, that by the stripes of Jesus,

00:51:45.719 --> 00:51:49.079
they are healed. We stand upon the word of God

00:51:49.079 --> 00:51:51.500
that says you sent your word to heal us of all

00:51:51.500 --> 00:51:54.619
our diseases. You said in your word that you

00:51:54.619 --> 00:51:57.539
rose with healing in your wings for us, oh God.

00:51:57.699 --> 00:52:01.630
And we release that healing word right now. and

00:52:01.630 --> 00:52:03.670
let it go through the airwaves, Lord, and it

00:52:03.670 --> 00:52:06.170
will not return void, but it will accomplish

00:52:06.170 --> 00:52:09.590
healing and miracles will take place. Yes. Right

00:52:09.590 --> 00:52:16.400
now. And Father, we release salvation. Yes. Father,

00:52:16.480 --> 00:52:18.920
you said no man comes unto the Father save the

00:52:18.920 --> 00:52:21.980
Holy Spirit draw them. Oh, Holy Spirit, draw

00:52:21.980 --> 00:52:25.800
them. Yes. Draw them, Lord. Give them dreams,

00:52:25.940 --> 00:52:29.940
visions, visitations, God. Send people by to

00:52:29.940 --> 00:52:33.079
minister to them. One to plant, one to tend,

00:52:33.199 --> 00:52:36.820
one to water, one to reap the harvest. Yes, Lord.

00:52:37.300 --> 00:52:40.559
Lord, I just thank you. And I praise you for

00:52:40.559 --> 00:52:43.460
your mercies. And Father, for those right now

00:52:43.460 --> 00:52:46.400
who's walking through a dark spot. Yes. Pour

00:52:46.400 --> 00:52:51.559
in your mercy. Pour in your peace. I release

00:52:51.559 --> 00:52:55.420
the peace of the Lord Jesus Christ, the Prince

00:52:55.420 --> 00:53:00.599
of Peace, through these airways. Habashi. Move,

00:53:00.719 --> 00:53:06.739
Lord. Move, Lord. Let peace fill each person

00:53:06.739 --> 00:53:10.739
who is listening. Go into that room. Go into

00:53:10.739 --> 00:53:15.019
that car. Go into the hospital room. Holy Spirit,

00:53:15.960 --> 00:53:19.880
Prince of Peace, come in and overshadow them.

00:53:20.000 --> 00:53:24.000
Yes, Lord. And fill them with your peace, Lord.

00:53:24.400 --> 00:53:27.940
Yes, Lord. With your salvation, Lord. Thank you.

00:53:27.980 --> 00:53:31.300
And we thank you, God, for the miracles that

00:53:31.300 --> 00:53:34.760
are going to take place. Yes, Lord. Yes. I thank

00:53:34.760 --> 00:53:36.920
you for the deliverances that are going to take

00:53:36.920 --> 00:53:40.460
place, Lord. Those that are bound up in darkness,

00:53:40.659 --> 00:53:44.320
oh God, you're going to set them free with your

00:53:44.320 --> 00:53:47.940
marvelous light of salvation. Yes, Lord. Lord,

00:53:48.119 --> 00:53:51.699
I just bind those chains of darkness and break

00:53:51.699 --> 00:53:54.880
them off of them in the name of Jesus. Yes. Every

00:53:54.880 --> 00:53:59.199
chain shall break and fall off. Yes. Every stronghold

00:53:59.199 --> 00:54:08.619
must fall. Thank you, Father. Thank you, God.

00:54:09.239 --> 00:54:13.420
Lord, right now, I lift up the Native Americans.

00:54:13.539 --> 00:54:16.800
Lord, they just come to my heart right now. Yes,

00:54:16.800 --> 00:54:22.340
Lord. God, I ask you that your Holy Spirit would

00:54:22.340 --> 00:54:26.440
let a fire of revival burn through the Native

00:54:26.440 --> 00:54:31.400
Americans. Lord, every tribe will begin to burn

00:54:31.400 --> 00:54:34.380
and begin to seek after you, Lord. Yes, Lord.

00:54:34.480 --> 00:54:38.039
Let miracles flow among them, God. Let salvation

00:54:38.039 --> 00:54:41.079
pour out among them. And we bind up that spirit

00:54:41.079 --> 00:54:44.500
of alcoholism among them. And we bind up that

00:54:44.500 --> 00:54:48.360
spirit of poverty among them. Amen. And we release

00:54:48.360 --> 00:54:53.900
the power of the living God in among their churches,

00:54:54.039 --> 00:54:57.900
Lord. Yes, Lord. Oh, God, that they'll no longer

00:54:57.900 --> 00:55:03.380
be cold, but they will become red hot with the

00:55:03.380 --> 00:55:07.090
glory and fire of God. Yes, Lord. Thank you,

00:55:07.090 --> 00:55:10.769
Jesus. And God, my heart goes now to China, Lord.

00:55:11.650 --> 00:55:14.849
They are suffering with so many floods and disaster,

00:55:15.210 --> 00:55:20.210
Lord. Touch your people there, Lord. Be merciful

00:55:20.210 --> 00:55:23.590
unto them, Lord. Yes, Father. Let salvation reign

00:55:23.590 --> 00:55:26.250
through them, Lord Jesus. As the rains come in

00:55:26.250 --> 00:55:28.190
the natural, let it come in the supernatural.

00:55:28.429 --> 00:55:31.829
Let the Spirit of God pour out upon China. Yes,

00:55:31.829 --> 00:55:34.730
Father. And move upon them right now in the mighty

00:55:34.730 --> 00:55:37.269
name of Jesus. Yes, Father. Thank you, Father.

00:55:37.409 --> 00:55:40.670
Father, we thank you. And, Father, I just ask

00:55:40.670 --> 00:55:43.650
you that your Holy Spirit will fill this valley.

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Yes, Father. Ingle -tall, Lord. The Valley of

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the Angels. Thank you. Father, I thank you for

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the angels that came to visit me the other night

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here in the valley. Thank you, Jesus. Thank you,

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God, for their ministry. They touched me when

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I needed you the most. Thank you, Father. And

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I ask you to send your ministry angels now to

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each one that's crying out, that's hungry and

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thirsting for Jesus. Yes, Lord. And for those

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who do not know what they need. They're just

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crying out for mercy, for deliverance, for something

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to grab hold of, for hope. Yes. And you are the

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hope that passes all understanding, God. Yes.

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Thank you, Father. And just pour into them, Lord.

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Yes. And bring salvation to them. And bring healing

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and deliverance. And Father, shake your people.

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Yes. It's time to wake up, people. Yes. It's

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time to wake up. Look into the harvest, for it

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is white. Amen. Labors come forth. Yes. Stand

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up. We call them from the north, south, east,

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and west to come. Yes. To come into the field.

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Yes. And to labor, to reap the harvest. Yes,

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Lord. For that pastor, that minister that has

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been wounded, that's been hurt, God, bring healing

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to their souls. Yes, Lord. Bring healing to their

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spirit and raise them up with a new fire, with

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a new boldness, with a new fresh word of God

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and revelation. And I thank you for that, Lord.

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I praise you for it. Yes, Lord. And Lord, I ask

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you to touch my brothers and sisters here at

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Global Outpouring. Thank you, Father. Home away

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from home is the way I see about it. Yes, amen.

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Bless my home, Lord. Thank you, Jesus. Bless

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them when they come in and when they go out.

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Thank you, Father. Whatever they put their hands

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to, let it prosper. Yes, Lord. And we call in

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the people that's needed to minister. And those

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who have come, we call the eagles to come and

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to minister here. Yes. And we call them in now

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in the name of Jesus. It's time. Come. Come.

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to minister and we call in the new christians

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to come to be trained so they too can become

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eagles and go out yes send them out lord thank

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you and we praise you for it and ask you to touch

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every young person that was here and every worker

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that was here at this retreat lord yes that you

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will change their lives forever yes let it be

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an eternal change lord yes and we thank you god

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that we had a chance to step out of time and

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step into eternity. Let us live in eternity.

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In Jesus' name we pray. Amen. Your review helps

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