(320) Q&A with Dean Braxton Pt. 1: What Happens When You Die, Families in Heaven, and Much More!

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And here I am when I'm going through this and

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the air is not coming in my body and I am suffocating.

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And the very thing that I didn't want to experience,

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I was experiencing. All of a sudden, what rose

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up on the inside of me were these words, I'm

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going home. And joy, peace, comfort came all

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over me. It wasn't just that it was in my heart.

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I feel my entire being, my toes were happy we

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were going home. I'm serious, you guys. Everything

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about me was so excited because I was going home.

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God promises in Joel 2 .28 to pour out his spirit

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on all humanity. Welcome to Global Outpouring,

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where we contend for that promised outpouring,

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we equip for that outpouring, so that we may

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engage in that very outpouring. I'm Philip Buss.

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And I'm Sharon Buss. Welcome to the podcast today.

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This is something we've never done before. One

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of our favorite listeners, Matthew Reams, he's

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also one of our favorite guests on this podcast.

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He made a suggestion for our convention that

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when we do Q &A with Dean Braxton, that we turn

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it into a podcast. Because everybody loves Q

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&A with Dean Braxton. So that's what we've done.

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So this is the first part of that. And we know

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you're going to enjoy it. And we look forward

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it. And very few people have the opportunity

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to talk to Dean one -on -one on what he saw in

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heaven. Yes. And we had interaction with the

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enjoy this Q &A with Dean Braxton. So we are

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here this afternoon to do Q &A, question and

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answer with Dean Braxton. And I'm so excited.

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This is one of my favorite things to do because

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I sneak in some of my questions too. But there's

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an awful lot of them here right now. So we'll

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see. So thank you so much for joining us for

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this. And thank you for the wonderful message

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that you gave this morning. That was powerful.

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And we're all stepping into something greater.

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Greater heavenly authority, right? So if you

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were not watching or if you were watching and

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you need to see it again, go to our YouTube channel

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to watch the message that our brother Dean gave

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this morning. And it was really powerful. So

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we have a basket full of questions and I'm just

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going to pick them randomly. So dear Dean. In

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an encounter with Jesus, I saw a storehouse made

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of glass packed to the ceilings with things we

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use on the planet. How do I access those things

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for use here on earth? You know, for me to try

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to come up with a formula on someone else's responsibility,

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that's between them and God. There you go. I

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mean, and so they need to really ask him what

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they need to do to get there. Everybody's a bit

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different. You know, because God's going to treat

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us all as individuals. When I was in heaven,

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I always tell people there is no number two.

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Everybody's number one. Okay. Sometimes I think

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we have an idea of earthly idea that we have

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to stand in line to be in front of Jesus. No,

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you don't. And someone says, well, how can that

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be? You know, he's God. And right now he's talking

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to each and everybody in this room. Like you're

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the only one he's talking to. The same thing

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is with anything that we want to know personally,

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we can go just directly to him. Now, what happens

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sometimes is I think we don't like hearing the

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answer of how to get that there. You know, I

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said this last night, and I'll say it right now.

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We're to follow him. To access those things is

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to follow Jesus. And I know a lot of us say we're

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following him, and then we come up with our criteria.

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what we won't do. I'll give you a good testimony.

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When I got into the public schools in California,

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it was a unique situation. I think you've heard

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this before. My father was passing away. He was

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leaving the planet. And I was at his house and

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I was taking care of him. And one day I thought

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I heard him make a noise. So I jumped up out

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of the room I was in and was running down the

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hallway. And I was going to, you know, go into

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his room. And I heard the Lord say audibly to

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me, I want California. I heard it. Okay. And

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I stopped in the middle of the hallway and I

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looked up and I said, how can I help? Do you

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hear what I'm saying? Yes. And that's when the

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schools opened up for me in California now. I

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do, you know, in the Sacramento area. I've done

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a number of schools. I've shared, you know, this

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story. And it wasn't. I got this great testimony,

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God. I could use it for you. You understand what

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I mean? It was, how can I help? And the next

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thing I know, the schools are open for me. And

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Ricky can tell you, you know, he goes with me

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in those schools. And they're not closed. And

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more schools are open for me all through California.

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And now because of that, it's opened up in the

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United States. So I'm just sharing that with

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you because I think we've got to realize we can

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go to him and ask him, what? We have to do to

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get where he wants us to get there. But we have

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to be willing. And I get so sad because we come

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up with criteria, you guys. Yeah, we just do.

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I won't do this. I won't do that. I won't go

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here. I won't do this. Instead of just saying,

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okay, God, wherever you send me, I will go. You

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know, you know what I'm talking about. And sometimes

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he sends you to places. Yeah, it might be. But

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he also equips you. with the things that you

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want from heaven to be able to be there. So someone's

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saying they can't get that. That might be, personally,

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you're not going where he wants you to go. Yeah,

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and lots of times the thing that you want least

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to do is the place where he wants you to go.

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Yeah, and most people don't realize, you may

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at that moment have the desire, I at least want

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to do that. But when you get there, you're so

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glad you did it. Yeah. It changes so much. Like,

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I am so glad I'm here. Yeah. Isn't that a little

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bit too about what you experienced because you

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had a traumatic experience as a child that you

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didn't want to drown. Yes. And here you are about

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to drown. Yeah. And what she was talking about

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is when I was about five or six years old, I

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jumped into a pool of water and I drowned almost,

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you know, I lost the lost air in my body. So

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I, whether I, told anybody or not, I was terrified

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of suffocating. That was the number one way I

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did not want to die on the planet. And I don't

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know about anybody else. I would go to God and

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say, if I'm going to die, don't let it be suffocation.

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And it wasn't during the time I was dying. And

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I remind him every once in a while, no, if I'm

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going to die, don't let it be. And here I am

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when I'm going through this and the air is not

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coming in my body and I am suffocating. And the

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very thing that I didn't want to experience,

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I was experiencing. But I just remember, you

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guys, it's so, to this day, so vivid to me, so

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real to me. All of a sudden, what rose up on

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the inside of me were these words, I'm going

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home. And joy, peace, comfort came all over me.

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Yes. It wasn't just that it was in my heart.

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Filled my entire being. My toes were happy we

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were going home. I'm serious, you guys. Everything

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about me was so excited because I was going home.

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But for me, suffocation was the one way I did

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not want to leave the planet. And yet, the number

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one way I left the planet is suffocation. But

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think about this. You probably had a fear. Of

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suffocation. But the perfect love of God that

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came up inside of you to say, I'm going home.

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That perfect love cast out that fear. It cast

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out that fear, yeah. Hallelujah. So we don't

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have to be afraid of where it is that God's going

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to send us. Even if we think that's the place

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I don't want to go or that's the people group

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I want nothing to do with. Please don't make

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me go there. You know, like the grandmother that

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did not like bikers. And God sent her bikers

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and she was ministering to them. That is cool.

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The bottom line is that, and one of the things

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we do, we think humbling ourselves is to resist

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something sometimes. And it's really being in

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rebellion. And rebellion is a witchcraft. Come

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on. You know, you're moving yourself into the

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dark side. It's true. You might as well just

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go along with what he says and move in that direction.

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Because rebellion is witchcraft, you guys. That's

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what the Bible says. That's right. And I kind

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of make it black and white because in heaven

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it is black and white. There is no gray areas.

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We throw gray areas in there. But there is no

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gray area in heaven. You're either for Jesus

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or you're not. So is there actually black in

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heaven? No, there's no darkness at all. I didn't

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think so. And most of us, that's a heavy one

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because it gets all into the universe and darkness

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and some people like stars and all that stuff.

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And I always tell people, You're going to enjoy

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things in heaven. If there's joy that you get

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out of something that's good, not bad, but it's

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good, it's going to be there in heaven. It's

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just going to be different. You're not going

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to lose the joy. It's the joy. It's like people

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that love to eat. Most of us love the taste of

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food or certain food. All right? And someone

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may have asked this question, is there food in

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heaven? There's no food in heaven, you guys.

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See, you're getting disappointed because your

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taste buds are getting disappointed. You know,

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your stomach ain't getting disappointed. Your

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taste buds are getting disappointed. The Bible

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says it in the scriptures. It says it in 2 Corinthians

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that God will do away with food and his stomach.

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It says it. It says it, you guys, in the Bible.

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All right? And you say, what do you live off?

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You live off praising Jesus. When I was praising

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Jesus, I came to understand what Jesus meant

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when he said, I have food that you know not of.

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Amen. The praise, you guys. Think about how full

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you get when you really praise Jesus. You know?

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So the banquet is a banquet, but it doesn't say

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it has food there. We think it has food there

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because of the banquet. Most of the time, most

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of us don't realize when we're together, we're

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fellowshipping. Yeah, that's true. Okay? So I

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say that because the scripture says, I tell you

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what I experience, and then I always tell you

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99 % of everything I experience is in the word

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of God. Okay? So I share that with you because

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I want you to understand something. Okay? You'll

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still get the joy of like you're eating, but

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it'll come a different way. All right. The joy.

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You like chocolate cake? Someone always says,

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I like chocolate. I want chocolate. Well, you

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can still have chocolate. The joy you get from

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it, it's just going to come different. That's

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not to say there's no taste in heaven. Yeah,

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there's a taste in heaven. Yeah. There's a taste.

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But I'm just saying that to you because we must

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have to bring it up because people are probably

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going to ask that question. But the reality of

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it is that, you guys, you think about what do

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you need? God sustains everything. It would be

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that way on the planet if we didn't have sin

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that came in and started destroying things and

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we started deteriorating. You understand what

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I mean? God provided for Adam and Eve everything

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they needed. And it wasn't we're all meat. It

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was plants. It's true. Well, in heaven, you don't

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have to eat the plants because they're alive

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and they'll talk to you if you start chopping

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them. Because everything in heaven is alive.

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There's nothing dead. Nehemiah 9, 6 says, man,

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I got to read that scripture because it's such

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a good scripture to me. It kind of like takes

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everything and puts it in perspective of God

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and who he is. So let me read this Nehemiah 9

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to you guys. And then I'll read the one about

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the food because I usually like to give out scripture.

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And the main reason not to prove I'm right, I

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always tell people my rightness don't get you

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anywhere. Jesus does. You know, he has to be

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right. But I like to bring out the scripture

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because that way you can go back and read it

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and God can even show you more. He wants you

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to know more. Okay. And so that's why I bring

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up scripture. But Nehemiah 9. Where are you at?

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I know you're here. There you are. 96 says, you

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alone are the Lord. You made the heavens, even

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the highest heavens, along with all their multitudes

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of stars, the earth and all that is on it, the

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seas and all that's in them. You impart life

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to them all, and the multitudes of heaven worship

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you. Everything's alive, intelligent. And some

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of you say, well, I don't believe that. That's

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okay. As long as you know Jesus, you still get

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to go. And when you get there, you're going to

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act like you always do it. You're not going to

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have your flesh to battle with. That's wonderful.

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It's not going to try, you know, this can't really

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be real. This ain't real. In heaven, you got

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just the Holy Spirit in you and that's it. Is

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that good news? That is good news. No doubt.

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There's no doubt. Let me get you this food one

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because someone, I know this is, the people are,

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oh man, I'm not going to be able to eat. I'm

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starving. Sound like the Israelites that you

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were talking about yesterday, huh? I'm on a diet.

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Yeah, so this is what it says. First Corinthians

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6, 13. Food is for the stomach and the stomach

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is for food. However. God will do away with both

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of them. Well, there you go. I'm just telling

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you, you know, it was you think about going to

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heaven and you see this and you experience this

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the way I experienced it. And then you come back

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to the planet and you don't know these scriptures

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are in there. Do you understand what I mean?

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You don't know where they're at, and yet you

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know you experience what you experience. And

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then you start reading your Bible because I'm

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a Bible reader, and then all of a sudden, there

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it is. You get it? It was so freeing to see this

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scripture. I know for you that want to have food

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in heaven. You know what I mean? That's a whole

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different story. There's truth in the Bible in

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all areas. And sometimes it'll talk about a different

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subject and it'll bring in the truth. It's just

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like most of us don't realize that we're born

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again. We never die. Our body dies. You know

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what I mean? We leave our body and then our body

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dies. The scripture reference that I found that

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in was found in... Faith without works is dead,

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just like the body is dead without the spirit.

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When I read that for the first time, I remember

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thinking to myself, that means your spirit has

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to leave first before your body could die. Okay?

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That's what it means. That's the truth. And I

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really believe that me and Sharon talked about

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the people. I believe the people that wrote the

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Bible, some of them believe we already knew the

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foundation of some things. Do you understand

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what I mean? And they expected us to know this

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already, that, you know, your spirit leads first.

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Because here we are in Genesis, the second chapter,

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and we find out that when God was creating Adam

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at the time, the man, he literally had to breathe

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into him a spirit before it became alive. I mean,

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right there at the beginning, second chapter

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tells you, you can't be alive unless you have

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a spirit on the inside of you. It's true. So

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what does that mean? The spirit got to leave

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for you to be able to die. One of the things

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I love the most is when people bring up to me

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and say, but what about when it said the trumpet

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would sound and the dead in Christ would rise

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first? You know that scripture there? And everyone

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says, well, the word dead, if you look at it

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in the sense of how the Greeks put it in, it

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means you cannot be dead unless your spirit and

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your soul is gone. It has to go before you can

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be referred to as being dead. Is that interesting,

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you guys? Mm -hmm. You know, I'm just bringing

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it out. It's in the Word. So, and it's not to

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prove that I'm right. Like I told you, my rightness

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don't get you in, Jesus does. It's to give you

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the Scripture so you can go back and read it.

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And if you read it, God will show you even more.

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He wants you to know. Is that good news? Amen.

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James 3, 17, which is... You know, faith without

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works is dead. I always used to. I don't know

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about you guys. That was the scripture. Faith

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without works is dead. And then here comes the

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truth. Just like the body is dead without the

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spirit. Is that cool? Is that cool? Yeah. Yeah.

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That is so good. And I've heard you talk about.

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sometimes people are struggling at the very last.

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And maybe their spirit left already. Oh, yeah,

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yeah. And their body is just... It's just their

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body struggling without the spirit. It's like

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a car that's ran out of gas and just going on

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the fumes. Okay? Us that are born again that

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know Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior, Jesus said

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that's what he came to do. Yeah. Okay. He died

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on that cross. Hebrews, the second chapter, I

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believe it's the ninth verse, says that when

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he died on that cross, he died our death. And

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when he died our death, that's our physical death

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also, so that we don't have to go through the

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pain of the suffering. That's why Paul said,

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where is your sting, O death? Mm -hmm. Okay.

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That's what he meant there. So in reality, you

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that are born again, you will never experience

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the sting of death because Jesus Christ, however,

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experienced it when i suffocated i can't tell

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you what it's like to suffocate because jesus

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christ had already suffocated for me so i didn't

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have to go through the suffocation um painfulness

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that it would usually cause because he already

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did it i just left my body now my body went through

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it do you understand i mean but i was gone you

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know where this was where i found this out because

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you got to understand this was not my belief

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system and i'm knowing that i left my body before

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uh you know it died but i left i knew it okay

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and i thought to myself i don't have any connection

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to what it was like to really die even that book

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i wrote out there says what what is this like

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to die the reality i'm telling you i never died

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you'd be in the book okay that's what i'm really

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saying because i was born again and i was watching

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this movie with these guys at a man's retreat

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and in the movie These missionaries had gone

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to Ecuador. If you ever know the story of Ecuador,

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it's called the end of the sphere. You ever heard

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of the end of the sphere? Yes. And the native

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was talking to the son when he was older of how

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he killed his dad. And he said, as I went to

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stab him, he jumped the boa. He said he jumped

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the boa. That's what he said. Well, to them,

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the jump the boa meant they went into the other

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life. Do you understand what I mean? So he saw

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his spirit leave before the spear hit him. Wow.

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And I said, that's it, that's it. That's what

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happened to me. I left my body and then it died.

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Yeah, even before the man was attacked. Even

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before the man was attacked. Yeah. Okay. And

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a friend of mine, Ron, I was with John, what's

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his name? I can't think of his name. The guy

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that wrote Imagine Heaven. John Burke. He is

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a friend of mine. I do know his name most of

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the time. I'm saying that so that he knows. But

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me, John Burke had asked me and Randy K and a

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guy named Jim and Ron and a number of other people

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to come and he was doing some stuff with us.

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And we were all sitting around the table talking

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about how we died. You know what I mean? How

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we left the planet. Okay. And laughing and having

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a good time. Really, we were, you know, like...

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Any other subject you guys are at. And one of

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the things I like is me, Cortina, and Randy K,

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we had all medical issues. So we were talking

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about how we left the planet in that way. And

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then all of a sudden, Jim, he talked about it

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because he died in a plane crash. The plane went

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down and he died in the plane crash. And he was

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talking about how he left the body before it

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happened. And then Ron, I think this guy named

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Ron, he's an older guy, 87 years old. And he

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had been stabbed to death. Someone came into

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his house in San Francisco and stabbed him to

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death. And he said, I didn't feel the stabs going

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in me. You know what I mean? He said, I left

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before I felt anything. Glory to God. Is that

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God or is that God, you guys? Yes. And I've had

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people that have had accidents where they died

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and they were in that area where they were going

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to the light or they were leaving their body,

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going that area, and they chose to come back

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in. They didn't feel the pain until they came

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back into their body. Yeah. You know what I'm

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saying? But that's what God has given us, you

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know, us that are born again, so that we leave

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our body or our body dies, but we never do. Is

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that good news? Yes. I think. Can I tell you

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what I think it is? Of course. So some of us

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that are called into dangerous areas can go into

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those dangerous areas knowing that whatever the

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affliction is going to be, we're not going to

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experience it. Amen. I was in Chicago a few years

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ago, and I was talking to these people. that

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were Ninevites. You know, Ninevites, they're

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still around. There's still people that, you

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know, are Ninevites, you know. And I was talking...

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That's Jonah and Nineveh? John and Nineveh, yeah.

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And I was talking to them, and they were sharing

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with me all about their lives and things like

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that. And one of the things that was telling,

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to this day, they still celebrate when Jonah

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came into their country. They call it Bacala,

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and it's a national holiday for Ninevites, you

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guys. They celebrate to this day. But they were

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telling me about how most of them became Christians

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after they heard about Jesus Christ. They repented

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way back then, and they stayed repentant. And

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then when they heard about Jesus, they became

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Christians. You guys hear what I just said? That's

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great. They were following God. When that 120

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,000 in Nineveh turned to the Lord, it was passed

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on generation after generation after generation.

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Beautiful. They were telling me this, and then

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they were telling me how they had to get out

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of their country over there, the Syria area,

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and how they had to come to the United States.

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But they said the strong ones stayed. This is

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what they said to me, the strong ones stayed.

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And there were certain ones that stayed there

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so that they could minister to ISIS. Oh, yeah.

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They stayed. They stayed on purpose so that they

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could share the gospel to the people that were

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ISIS. You understand what I mean? And when they

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were saying it to me, they said, and the strong

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will stay. Like, that's normal. You know, that's

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the way we Christians act. That's the way it

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should be. You know what I mean? That we would

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put ourselves into that position that even if

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we're going to get killed, we're going to share

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the gospel. Do you understand? Beautiful. And

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I kind of like, yeah, yeah. I didn't want to

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tell them that we don't act that way. You know

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what I mean? And so then they told me that we

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had seen all these Christians getting beheaded.

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Remember that? Yes. Do you remember? Those were

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Ninevites. There were the strong ones that stayed

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to share the gospel. Wow. And I thought, Lord.

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But they knew something. And I know something.

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Before the blade hit their neck, they were gone.

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Glory to God. Isn't that comforting? Yes. That

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is so comforting. There's more stories I could

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tell you. Sure. You think about the tragic deaths.

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Yeah. And if you know Jesus. You leave. You're

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gone before the tragedy hits. And you don't have

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to grieve like that. And I know some of you are

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saying, well, I was there when they breathed

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their last. What you saw is their body struggling

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without their spirit. They were gone. Yeah. And

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it doesn't take that long to get there. To be

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absent the body, to be in the presence of the

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Lord. Faster than you can blink, you're there.

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By the time someone's saying they died, they've

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already been there. Been there a while, too.

00:26:38.589 --> 00:26:42.349
Wow. Is that good news? That is tremendous. And

00:26:42.349 --> 00:26:45.269
I've had several people tell me. I remember this

00:26:45.269 --> 00:26:47.049
one lady, the first time she told me, she said,

00:26:47.069 --> 00:26:49.910
I was upstairs and my husband had a heart attack.

00:26:50.069 --> 00:26:52.049
And he was mowing the grass and he had a heart

00:26:52.049 --> 00:26:54.930
attack. And she said, I saw his spirit leave.

00:26:55.369 --> 00:26:58.369
Wow. That's what she said. And she said, when

00:26:58.369 --> 00:27:00.390
I got in the ambulance, I looked and they said,

00:27:00.490 --> 00:27:03.009
and I said, he's gone. He's gone. And then she

00:27:03.009 --> 00:27:06.309
was talking to her daughter. Her daughter was

00:27:06.309 --> 00:27:09.640
downstairs and saw the very same thing. Wow.

00:27:10.039 --> 00:27:13.339
So both of them saw, the daughter saw her dad's

00:27:13.339 --> 00:27:15.440
spirit lead and she saw her husband's spirit

00:27:15.440 --> 00:27:17.900
lead before, you know, they pronounced it dead.

00:27:18.119 --> 00:27:21.240
Is that cool? I think it's cool. I think it's

00:27:21.240 --> 00:27:25.539
cool. Yeah. Everybody agree? That's cool. Yeah.

00:27:26.160 --> 00:27:28.759
Hallelujah. All right. Should we take another

00:27:28.759 --> 00:27:31.359
one? Yeah, let's take another one. Tell us more

00:27:31.359 --> 00:27:34.660
about the throne room and about the stones and

00:27:34.660 --> 00:27:40.039
color and meaning and function. Wow. You know,

00:27:40.099 --> 00:27:45.059
we put a lot of emphasis on the throne room.

00:27:45.200 --> 00:27:47.880
In heaven, there's not a lot of emphasis on the

00:27:47.880 --> 00:27:50.759
throne room. There's a lot of emphasis on who

00:27:50.759 --> 00:27:56.319
sits on the throne. That's good. Okay. The throne

00:27:56.319 --> 00:28:00.119
room doesn't heal you. It doesn't save you. It

00:28:00.119 --> 00:28:02.509
can't help you. Do you understand what I mean?

00:28:02.609 --> 00:28:05.329
But the one that sits on the throne is the one

00:28:05.329 --> 00:28:07.650
that can do all those things. Beautiful. All

00:28:07.650 --> 00:28:12.410
right. So a lot of times in heaven, I had to

00:28:12.410 --> 00:28:16.690
readjust when I got back to the planet so that

00:28:16.690 --> 00:28:23.950
you guys would like me. Seriously, I was not

00:28:23.950 --> 00:28:26.829
the best person to be here when I first came

00:28:26.829 --> 00:28:30.400
back. Ask my wife and my children. Were you cranky?

00:28:31.839 --> 00:28:34.839
This is what I was. I wanted people to be born

00:28:34.839 --> 00:28:37.579
again and know Jesus Christ so bad. I wanted

00:28:37.579 --> 00:28:39.839
everybody on this planet to go to heaven. There

00:28:39.839 --> 00:28:42.440
was not one person I didn't want to go to heaven.

00:28:42.619 --> 00:28:47.440
And I knew that we had work to do. And so my

00:28:47.440 --> 00:28:50.900
daughter said this to me. My son said this to

00:28:50.900 --> 00:28:53.299
me. My wife said this to me. When they came into

00:28:53.299 --> 00:28:55.839
the room to comfort me, I would say, what are

00:28:55.839 --> 00:28:59.099
you doing here? We got work to do. I was more

00:28:59.099 --> 00:29:01.000
concerned with the people out there than I was

00:29:01.000 --> 00:29:04.660
where I was at that moment. So I was very, very,

00:29:04.660 --> 00:29:07.700
very focused on getting the word out to anybody.

00:29:08.039 --> 00:29:09.980
You go to heaven and see if you don't come back

00:29:09.980 --> 00:29:13.819
more focused. I'm serious. Okay. You find out

00:29:13.819 --> 00:29:15.819
that everything on the planet is falling apart.

00:29:15.920 --> 00:29:18.019
It's dissolving. The chair is dissolving. So

00:29:18.019 --> 00:29:20.180
now you have to readjust how you look at things

00:29:20.180 --> 00:29:22.299
because everybody else looks at it. Oh, this

00:29:22.299 --> 00:29:24.099
is a chair. It's going to be around. You're thinking

00:29:24.099 --> 00:29:28.839
eternal. You're not thinking temporal. Eternal.

00:29:28.960 --> 00:29:30.960
Where's that chair going to be, you know, 100

00:29:30.960 --> 00:29:34.380
years from now? You know, where's this building

00:29:34.380 --> 00:29:36.240
going to be? It's already falling apart. Where's

00:29:36.240 --> 00:29:38.380
it going to be 100 years from now? You start

00:29:38.380 --> 00:29:40.839
thinking eternal. Everything is eternal thinking.

00:29:41.000 --> 00:29:46.160
And in heaven, because everything is new every

00:29:46.160 --> 00:29:49.519
moment. You want to know why you like newness?

00:29:49.660 --> 00:29:52.180
You were created for newness. Oh, that's so good.

00:29:53.059 --> 00:29:56.140
That's your natural environment to have something

00:29:56.140 --> 00:29:59.299
being new every moment. Is that good news? So

00:29:59.299 --> 00:30:02.380
go back to the throne because I want to make

00:30:02.380 --> 00:30:05.160
sure. So no one's really looking at that, those

00:30:05.160 --> 00:30:07.920
things. We emphasize it here on the planet. You

00:30:07.920 --> 00:30:09.640
know, we say we're in the throne room. We say

00:30:09.640 --> 00:30:11.880
this, we say that. But it's really not the throne

00:30:11.880 --> 00:30:13.640
room that you want to be in. It's the father

00:30:13.640 --> 00:30:16.420
you want to be with. That's good. Is that good

00:30:16.420 --> 00:30:20.950
news? Oh, yeah. And so that's the mentality there.

00:30:21.170 --> 00:30:23.569
It's all about Jesus and the Father. And where's

00:30:23.569 --> 00:30:25.250
the Holy Spirit? He's on the inside of you to

00:30:25.250 --> 00:30:26.930
help you to make sure it's all about Jesus and

00:30:26.930 --> 00:30:28.769
the Father. Where's the Holy Spirit here? He's

00:30:28.769 --> 00:30:31.009
on the inside of you to make it what? Sure, it's

00:30:31.009 --> 00:30:33.910
all about Jesus and the Father. And that's to

00:30:33.910 --> 00:30:37.369
throw out the excuses. You always have the Holy

00:30:37.369 --> 00:30:40.769
Spirit that wants to praise God. Yes. Your flesh

00:30:40.769 --> 00:30:43.589
doesn't want to do it. Your feet may not even

00:30:43.589 --> 00:30:46.410
want to move at the moment. But your spirit.

00:30:47.039 --> 00:30:49.380
And the spirit on the inside of your spirit always

00:30:49.380 --> 00:30:52.380
wants to praise the Father. That's so good. Some

00:30:52.380 --> 00:30:55.119
of you got to grab that. I think today when we

00:30:55.119 --> 00:30:57.019
were talking about authority and you understand

00:30:57.019 --> 00:30:58.980
that your authority is really heavenly authority.

00:30:59.720 --> 00:31:01.880
Okay, you have earthly authority. You have that

00:31:01.880 --> 00:31:03.680
naturally because you were just born on the planet.

00:31:03.920 --> 00:31:06.500
But you have heavenly authority because of what

00:31:06.500 --> 00:31:09.750
Jesus Christ did. Amen. So you can operate in

00:31:09.750 --> 00:31:12.650
that heavenly authority. You're not battling

00:31:12.650 --> 00:31:14.869
the physical things you're battling. You're battling

00:31:14.869 --> 00:31:16.589
the spiritual things. You've got to go to the

00:31:16.589 --> 00:31:19.829
spiritual first. Spiritual first. Want me to

00:31:19.829 --> 00:31:23.430
say it one more time? Spiritual first. Okay?

00:31:23.569 --> 00:31:27.269
It will come into the temporal realm, I call

00:31:27.269 --> 00:31:29.150
it. You guys call it the natural and the supernatural.

00:31:29.569 --> 00:31:33.069
I call it the temporal and the eternal. That's

00:31:33.069 --> 00:31:35.529
good. Because the Bible says it's not what you

00:31:35.529 --> 00:31:39.869
see. You know, that will laugh. It's what you

00:31:39.869 --> 00:31:43.170
don't see that's eternal. And that's true. And

00:31:43.170 --> 00:31:45.450
that's who we are. We're created for the eternal

00:31:45.450 --> 00:31:48.890
realm. Is that good news? That's good news. And

00:31:48.890 --> 00:31:51.890
most of you, when you fall asleep or get ready

00:31:51.890 --> 00:31:54.130
to go to sleep or you sleep, you enter into that

00:31:54.130 --> 00:31:57.430
realm whether you realize it or not. And that's

00:31:57.430 --> 00:31:59.970
because your flesh don't have a say -so anymore.

00:32:02.339 --> 00:32:05.640
Wow. Yeah. You experience probably more in that

00:32:05.640 --> 00:32:08.119
realm when you're asleep than you realize. Wow.

00:32:08.160 --> 00:32:10.220
You know what I'm talking about? God gets through

00:32:10.220 --> 00:32:12.779
his message a lot of times. So when you talk

00:32:12.779 --> 00:32:15.039
about the throne room and entering the throne

00:32:15.039 --> 00:32:18.119
room, it's really, let's don't stop at the throne

00:32:18.119 --> 00:32:20.640
room. It's the person sitting on the throne that

00:32:20.640 --> 00:32:24.700
we have access to. You can go what? Boldly? Yes.

00:32:25.119 --> 00:32:29.099
To the throne of what? Grace. You have the ability

00:32:29.099 --> 00:32:33.450
to go directly to the person. In heaven, I came

00:32:33.450 --> 00:32:37.269
to understand we, his, really we're offspring.

00:32:37.569 --> 00:32:41.150
I say sons and daughters because it sounds good,

00:32:41.230 --> 00:32:43.210
you know. But in the Bible, we're really his

00:32:43.210 --> 00:32:46.029
offspring. That's what it's called, okay? Is

00:32:46.029 --> 00:32:50.069
that right? Okay. And we refer to him always

00:32:50.069 --> 00:32:55.789
as father. We're the only creation that he has

00:32:55.789 --> 00:32:58.869
that refers to him as father. Is that cool? Is

00:32:58.869 --> 00:33:01.460
that cool? And what is everything else calling?

00:33:01.619 --> 00:33:04.400
Everything else in heaven calls him the Word.

00:33:06.119 --> 00:33:08.200
They refer to him as the Word. That was an eye

00:33:08.200 --> 00:33:10.420
-opener for me when you told us that. But we

00:33:10.420 --> 00:33:13.859
refer to him as Father. And I say that so that

00:33:13.859 --> 00:33:16.859
you understand the connection you can have with

00:33:16.859 --> 00:33:20.099
him that not everything else in heaven can have.

00:33:20.599 --> 00:33:25.420
The angels can't call him Father. That's amazing.

00:33:25.480 --> 00:33:27.660
We can call him Father. Do you know why? Because

00:33:27.660 --> 00:33:32.119
we're as what? We were made in what? His image.

00:33:32.500 --> 00:33:36.059
Is that good news? And when you come to understand

00:33:36.059 --> 00:33:38.220
it, that's because in heaven, you're not going

00:33:38.220 --> 00:33:40.579
to, you're not going to say God almighty. You're

00:33:40.579 --> 00:33:43.359
going to say father. You're going to say father.

00:33:43.619 --> 00:33:47.019
You're going to say father. Beautiful. And he's,

00:33:47.019 --> 00:33:50.099
and he's going to say, and I say that it really

00:33:50.099 --> 00:33:52.460
says, I'm just going to use you as an example.

00:33:52.619 --> 00:33:55.099
Okay. He's going to say, this is my daughter.

00:33:56.539 --> 00:34:00.690
You know? When I was there, I'm getting back

00:34:00.690 --> 00:34:03.289
to the throne. But when I was there, I was looking

00:34:03.289 --> 00:34:05.990
at the father. And he said to me, I will take

00:34:05.990 --> 00:34:10.650
care of my daughter. Talk about my wife. He didn't

00:34:10.650 --> 00:34:13.829
refer to her as my wife. He referred to her as

00:34:13.829 --> 00:34:17.010
his daughter. That is so good. I say that to

00:34:17.010 --> 00:34:19.230
the man because you've got to understand, you're

00:34:19.230 --> 00:34:24.369
messing with his daughter. You've got to treat

00:34:24.369 --> 00:34:27.610
his daughter right. That is so good. My friend

00:34:27.610 --> 00:34:29.789
Rick over there, I told you, he does a lot of

00:34:29.789 --> 00:34:32.489
the teaching and stuff, and he looks up things.

00:34:32.690 --> 00:34:36.989
And we were looking at that scripture. What is

00:34:36.989 --> 00:34:43.449
the scripture? Proverbs 18, 12, which was? A

00:34:43.449 --> 00:34:47.789
man that finds a wife finds a good thing. And

00:34:47.789 --> 00:34:51.469
so he looked it up. He broke down all the words,

00:34:51.530 --> 00:34:53.889
all the Hebrew words and everything. And this

00:34:53.889 --> 00:34:56.269
is what it comes up to. If you take care of my

00:34:56.269 --> 00:34:59.630
daughter, I will provide the resources. Ooh,

00:34:59.630 --> 00:35:02.650
that is so good. I always want to say to any

00:35:02.650 --> 00:35:04.929
man, you want to be rich? Take care of his daughter.

00:35:05.530 --> 00:35:10.570
That is so good. That is so. And then I get to

00:35:10.570 --> 00:35:15.170
men say, what about me? What about me? But the

00:35:15.170 --> 00:35:17.289
reality of it is that's what this scripture really

00:35:17.289 --> 00:35:20.750
means. You take care of my daughter. What's that

00:35:20.750 --> 00:35:26.460
Proverbs? 1820. See, I got him as a lifeline

00:35:26.460 --> 00:35:31.579
over there right now. So the rest of that question

00:35:31.579 --> 00:35:33.739
about the throne room was about the colors and

00:35:33.739 --> 00:35:38.199
the stones. The stones. Yeah. There's a number

00:35:38.199 --> 00:35:40.440
of ways I can go with that. Which way would you

00:35:40.440 --> 00:35:43.679
like me to go? We've talked about the stones

00:35:43.679 --> 00:35:47.119
and the beautiful. We have. Okay. We have. So

00:35:47.119 --> 00:35:49.380
we just send people to the podcast? Yeah, we

00:35:49.380 --> 00:35:54.460
should. My favorite, I'll tell you. Can I tell

00:35:54.460 --> 00:35:57.519
you? Can I tell you? My favorite is that I came

00:35:57.519 --> 00:35:59.679
to understand that every family has a color.

00:36:00.000 --> 00:36:04.679
Yeah. Every family has a color. Now, if you've

00:36:04.679 --> 00:36:06.780
been listening to our podcast, you would know

00:36:06.780 --> 00:36:12.219
that already. And the scripture references I

00:36:12.219 --> 00:36:14.840
use is talking about when we talk about the children

00:36:14.840 --> 00:36:17.980
of Israel and we talk about the breastplate and

00:36:17.980 --> 00:36:19.880
how on the breastplate is all these different

00:36:19.880 --> 00:36:22.679
jewels. And every jewel, every color represents

00:36:22.679 --> 00:36:25.619
a different tribe. Do you understand what I mean?

00:36:25.860 --> 00:36:28.539
So when you get to heaven, you're going to know

00:36:28.539 --> 00:36:31.599
your family not only by just knowing, but because

00:36:31.599 --> 00:36:35.639
of the color. Because in heaven, really, families

00:36:35.639 --> 00:36:39.500
are called to serve. As families. You know, we

00:36:39.500 --> 00:36:41.320
were talking about how we are priests. We talked

00:36:41.320 --> 00:36:43.920
about that earlier. You know, we are really priests

00:36:43.920 --> 00:36:46.760
on this planet. Well, what we have as example

00:36:46.760 --> 00:36:51.760
is that when the Levites were called into the

00:36:51.760 --> 00:36:53.940
temple to serve, they were called into the temple

00:36:53.940 --> 00:36:59.920
to serve as family. Not as individuals. Come

00:36:59.920 --> 00:37:03.260
on. As family. So when you get to heaven, you're

00:37:03.260 --> 00:37:05.099
going to be serving with your family. I know

00:37:05.099 --> 00:37:06.480
some of you just said, oh, you don't know how

00:37:06.480 --> 00:37:11.559
bad my family is. But everything's right. There's

00:37:11.559 --> 00:37:13.519
nothing wrong. I always tell people, when you

00:37:13.519 --> 00:37:15.159
get to heaven, you get to experience family the

00:37:15.159 --> 00:37:17.760
way God really wanted you to experience it. And

00:37:17.760 --> 00:37:19.500
all those issues that you have in family now,

00:37:19.599 --> 00:37:22.119
you don't have no more. Hallelujah. It's not

00:37:22.119 --> 00:37:24.300
that you don't remember them. They don't exist.

00:37:25.820 --> 00:37:28.000
There's no way to even go back and grab them

00:37:28.000 --> 00:37:30.280
and bring them up and say, hey, I remember when.

00:37:30.380 --> 00:37:34.219
It does not exist. Okay. So when she's talking

00:37:34.219 --> 00:37:37.659
about the stones and they are representing different

00:37:37.659 --> 00:37:41.059
families that are serving around God at that

00:37:41.059 --> 00:37:45.159
moment. Beautiful. Is that good news? Yes. You

00:37:45.159 --> 00:37:49.039
know, and they change. See, we think it's like

00:37:49.039 --> 00:37:52.199
a still picture and we took the picture and then

00:37:52.199 --> 00:37:54.179
all of a sudden that's the way it is always.

00:37:54.460 --> 00:37:58.480
No. Everything's alive. Things are changing all

00:37:58.480 --> 00:38:01.820
the time. Do you understand? We got a snapshot.

00:38:02.400 --> 00:38:06.159
That's all we got at that moment. Is that good

00:38:06.159 --> 00:38:16.320
news? Yes. The stones can change. Individually,

00:38:16.320 --> 00:38:18.219
they can change. And really, it's representing

00:38:18.219 --> 00:38:21.599
families serving at that moment. So the stones

00:38:21.599 --> 00:38:23.380
will change and different families will come

00:38:23.380 --> 00:38:26.199
and serve in that moment. Is that cool? Your

00:38:26.199 --> 00:38:29.260
family will have it. I don't know how the rotation

00:38:29.260 --> 00:38:33.340
goes. You understand what I mean? But no one's

00:38:33.340 --> 00:38:36.300
jealous about the rotation. You know, they get

00:38:36.300 --> 00:38:39.860
it last week. How they get it this week? Why

00:38:39.860 --> 00:38:43.300
do you call them up this week? No one's over

00:38:43.300 --> 00:38:45.019
it. You know what I mean? We're just glad we're

00:38:45.019 --> 00:38:47.820
there serving period. Is that good news? That's

00:38:47.820 --> 00:38:50.000
good news. So families, that's what that's all

00:38:50.000 --> 00:38:55.710
about when that goes on there. Beautiful. You

00:38:55.710 --> 00:38:59.710
guys got me digging into the area. Because people,

00:38:59.829 --> 00:39:01.650
no one's ever asked why those stones are there.

00:39:02.170 --> 00:39:04.550
Okay. You know, one of the people that had a

00:39:04.550 --> 00:39:07.909
stone and he messed up was Lucifer. That's right.

00:39:08.230 --> 00:39:11.489
You know what I mean? He mooned among the fiery

00:39:11.489 --> 00:39:15.710
stones of God. Okay. And he messed up. Okay.

00:39:16.030 --> 00:39:23.599
And those stones were on top of his head. I always

00:39:23.599 --> 00:39:27.699
say he moved among the thoughts of God. Then

00:39:27.699 --> 00:39:31.179
he said, I want to be God. So that's a whole

00:39:31.179 --> 00:39:33.599
different story. It takes about eight hours to

00:39:33.599 --> 00:39:36.260
teach, so we ain't doing that. You've been there,

00:39:36.280 --> 00:39:39.659
you know. Yes. And it's a good teaching. Are

00:39:39.659 --> 00:39:42.059
you ready for another one? Yeah. Okay. What did

00:39:42.059 --> 00:39:44.659
you see and learn in heaven concerning Israel

00:39:44.659 --> 00:39:48.539
and what's happening now in Israel? You know,

00:39:48.619 --> 00:39:51.909
I think the biggest thing about... Israel that

00:39:51.909 --> 00:39:55.650
I learned in the first person that really dug

00:39:55.650 --> 00:39:57.590
this out was Sid Roth when I was on the show

00:39:57.590 --> 00:40:01.449
years ago. It's the prodigal son and the son

00:40:01.449 --> 00:40:04.250
and, you know, God is calling. The prodigal son

00:40:04.250 --> 00:40:07.610
was coming home. Okay. But the son that's always

00:40:07.610 --> 00:40:10.369
been home is still kind of rejecting the prodigal

00:40:10.369 --> 00:40:12.510
son. Right. Do you understand what I'm talking

00:40:12.510 --> 00:40:16.019
about? The prodigal son is coming home. And really

00:40:16.019 --> 00:40:18.159
how the prodigal son is coming home, to be honest

00:40:18.159 --> 00:40:20.320
with you, one of the things Jesus said is they

00:40:20.320 --> 00:40:23.280
don't celebrate me enough. That's what he said.

00:40:23.500 --> 00:40:26.539
And if you think about when it comes to the children

00:40:26.539 --> 00:40:29.079
of Israel, they had celebration after celebration

00:40:29.079 --> 00:40:30.840
after celebration. Even this time was a celebration.

00:40:31.360 --> 00:40:35.559
And we at the most will squeeze into celebrations.

00:40:35.679 --> 00:40:39.320
It's called Easter and Christmas. And both of

00:40:39.320 --> 00:40:42.739
those are kind of being taken over. And I know

00:40:42.739 --> 00:40:45.460
that the people that started them way back then

00:40:45.460 --> 00:40:50.599
was trying to group in other groups so they could

00:40:50.599 --> 00:40:53.059
celebrate them. But the reality of it is that,

00:40:53.079 --> 00:40:54.840
you guys, they were still celebrating Jesus.

00:40:55.300 --> 00:40:58.900
Yes. Do you guys hear me? Yes. And people make

00:40:58.900 --> 00:41:02.360
all kinds. We did a podcast about that. We only

00:41:02.360 --> 00:41:07.139
have two celebrations. But if you think about

00:41:07.139 --> 00:41:09.400
the children of Israel, they celebrated God a

00:41:09.400 --> 00:41:13.179
whole lot. Every week, you know. And so they're

00:41:13.179 --> 00:41:16.219
coming back in with that thinking of celebrating

00:41:16.219 --> 00:41:19.260
Jesus. Not to make it a religious, you know what

00:41:19.260 --> 00:41:21.780
I mean? But to understand that God needs to be

00:41:21.780 --> 00:41:27.960
celebrated. You know, we say the first day of

00:41:27.960 --> 00:41:31.559
the week we celebrate him. You know, and a lot

00:41:31.559 --> 00:41:35.679
of us, that's just a ritual. We just go because

00:41:35.679 --> 00:41:37.539
we don't want to feel guilty if we didn't go.

00:41:38.409 --> 00:41:42.050
And then if we don't go, we think, I don't know,

00:41:42.110 --> 00:41:44.269
maybe I'm not going to be blessed this week,

00:41:44.269 --> 00:41:46.929
so I better go. You got to know what I'm talking

00:41:46.929 --> 00:41:49.710
about. Instead of going with the idea of celebrating.

00:41:52.049 --> 00:41:54.250
In deep worship, one of the things that really

00:41:54.250 --> 00:41:56.730
got me when I was putting that book together

00:41:56.730 --> 00:41:59.429
and going back to what it was like to be called

00:41:59.429 --> 00:42:00.969
around, throwing to God, telling him how much

00:42:00.969 --> 00:42:03.849
we love him, is that everything was so excited

00:42:03.849 --> 00:42:06.590
that we were coming together to tell Jesus, their

00:42:06.590 --> 00:42:09.369
father, how much we love him. You know, on Sunday

00:42:09.369 --> 00:42:11.889
mornings, I'm going to, can I step on some toes

00:42:11.889 --> 00:42:16.809
in this area? I'm going to anyway. But worship,

00:42:17.050 --> 00:42:20.269
let's look at worship. We look at worship as

00:42:20.269 --> 00:42:22.710
trying to get us in there. God wants us to be

00:42:22.710 --> 00:42:26.929
ready to worship before we get there. Amen. You

00:42:26.929 --> 00:42:30.289
know, leave your troubles out the door. You got

00:42:30.289 --> 00:42:31.989
things going on. We're going to make you feel

00:42:31.989 --> 00:42:34.449
better now. You know, God wants you to come in

00:42:34.449 --> 00:42:38.489
with already. Let's go. I always say if we would

00:42:38.489 --> 00:42:42.789
do it beforehand, where would we be? You know,

00:42:42.809 --> 00:42:47.139
and I this is Dean. I don't think worship should

00:42:47.139 --> 00:42:48.760
always be at the beginning. I think it should

00:42:48.760 --> 00:42:51.460
be after the service. Because a lot of people

00:42:51.460 --> 00:42:54.860
have more to worship after the service. What

00:42:54.860 --> 00:42:56.800
would have happened after you got prayed for

00:42:56.800 --> 00:42:59.559
today and you got your answer to prayer and then

00:42:59.559 --> 00:43:03.000
we went to worship? Yeah. What would have...

00:43:03.000 --> 00:43:05.300
I mean, seriously. It would have exploded in

00:43:05.300 --> 00:43:08.079
you. Because a lot of you got changed in a lot

00:43:08.079 --> 00:43:11.659
of ways. There's a lot of healing. A lot of physical...

00:43:11.659 --> 00:43:15.099
And you would have... Wow! Now I got something

00:43:15.099 --> 00:43:17.760
to really worship about. You know, that's just

00:43:17.760 --> 00:43:23.059
the, but how do they worship in heaven? We come

00:43:23.059 --> 00:43:28.039
with the attitude. See, I said we. I laugh about

00:43:28.039 --> 00:43:30.260
that. My wife don't like it, but I laugh about

00:43:30.260 --> 00:43:34.639
it. When I first came back, I just, when I first

00:43:34.639 --> 00:43:36.719
came back, I always said, you guys, you guys,

00:43:36.780 --> 00:43:40.739
you guys. And my wife said, I don't like what

00:43:40.739 --> 00:43:43.340
you say, you guys. Well, you go to heaven and

00:43:43.340 --> 00:43:49.260
see if you don't start separating yourself. So

00:43:49.260 --> 00:43:52.159
I got to go in my head to always know I'm back

00:43:52.159 --> 00:43:54.340
on the planet. I'm with you guys. So I'm one

00:43:54.340 --> 00:43:56.500
of you guys. I have to be like you guys in a

00:43:56.500 --> 00:44:00.280
way. But the reality of it is that everybody

00:44:00.280 --> 00:44:02.139
had the heart that we were coming to tell our

00:44:02.139 --> 00:44:05.000
father how much we love him. And we were so excited

00:44:05.000 --> 00:44:09.429
about that. And when it was my turn to tell my

00:44:09.429 --> 00:44:12.650
father how much I loved him, I remember rising

00:44:12.650 --> 00:44:15.690
up. And everybody sings an individual song. No

00:44:15.690 --> 00:44:18.730
one sings chorus songs together. They're individually.

00:44:19.269 --> 00:44:25.050
And they are your tongue. You know how you sing?

00:44:25.429 --> 00:44:27.329
You think about it. If we were to sing in tongues

00:44:27.329 --> 00:44:30.949
right now, it wouldn't clash. Everybody's singing

00:44:30.949 --> 00:44:33.969
a different language. But some would say it's

00:44:33.969 --> 00:44:37.230
harmonized. No, it's not. I can't even describe

00:44:37.230 --> 00:44:40.530
what it really is. But everybody sings in their

00:44:40.530 --> 00:44:43.590
own language to the Lord. Is that cool? Is that

00:44:43.590 --> 00:44:46.849
cool? All right. So when it was my opportunity

00:44:46.849 --> 00:44:49.369
to tell my father how much I love him, I remember

00:44:49.369 --> 00:44:51.929
going through the process of the Holy Spirit,

00:44:52.050 --> 00:44:56.250
partnering with my spirit, coming up with the

00:44:56.250 --> 00:44:59.900
very words that I should sing to him. And I remember

00:44:59.900 --> 00:45:02.500
how they were rising in the inside of me. I wrote

00:45:02.500 --> 00:45:04.760
it in the book. How they were rising in the inside

00:45:04.760 --> 00:45:07.340
of me. And when it got to my lips, oh, I'll never

00:45:07.340 --> 00:45:13.000
forget this. My lips were so excited. My lips

00:45:13.000 --> 00:45:16.179
were so excited. Okay? They were able to launch

00:45:16.179 --> 00:45:19.639
this word of love to my father. You know what

00:45:19.639 --> 00:45:21.820
I'm talking about? And then another word came,

00:45:21.960 --> 00:45:23.800
and another word came, and another word. And

00:45:23.800 --> 00:45:27.340
it was like, wow. But everything inside of me

00:45:27.340 --> 00:45:31.579
was happy. You come to understand God made you

00:45:31.579 --> 00:45:35.679
in a way to, what do you call it, to praise him

00:45:35.679 --> 00:45:38.719
with everything that you have. You know, I do

00:45:38.719 --> 00:45:42.119
a training. The first one I did, our seminar,

00:45:42.260 --> 00:45:44.920
I did it with Sharon and them. It's called a

00:45:44.920 --> 00:45:48.500
deep worship seminar. And it's an all -day seminar.

00:45:50.329 --> 00:45:52.829
Just worshiping. And what we do is we teach the

00:45:52.829 --> 00:45:54.429
Hebrew words like we were talking about this

00:45:54.429 --> 00:45:58.070
morning. And then we go into worship. And we

00:45:58.070 --> 00:46:00.010
teach and then we go into worship. And we teach

00:46:00.010 --> 00:46:01.889
and we go into worship. And anybody that's ever

00:46:01.889 --> 00:46:03.989
been in it, by the time you get to the third

00:46:03.989 --> 00:46:08.530
session, it's different. And usually I have testimonies

00:46:08.530 --> 00:46:11.750
now. Because people are changed so much. Wow.

00:46:12.010 --> 00:46:13.769
You know what I mean? That we have testimonies

00:46:13.769 --> 00:46:16.150
at the end and let people talk about the different

00:46:16.150 --> 00:46:18.469
things that took place in their lives. You know?

00:46:19.030 --> 00:46:24.110
So. That's that. Yeah, get his book, Deep Worship

00:46:24.110 --> 00:46:25.869
in Heaven. If you want to know more about worship

00:46:25.869 --> 00:46:28.809
in heaven, get that book. And if you're not a

00:46:28.809 --> 00:46:32.170
reader, get Audible. The book is on Audible.

00:46:32.190 --> 00:46:34.989
It's very well read. But it must be a Canadian.

00:46:35.309 --> 00:46:37.610
He's got a little bit of a Canadian accent. Yeah,

00:46:37.610 --> 00:46:40.230
how do you realize that? It's his accent. Yeah,

00:46:40.250 --> 00:46:43.349
he is a Canadian. He did a good job, I think.

00:46:43.409 --> 00:46:45.889
Oh, he did a great job. I loved it. I loved it.

00:46:45.889 --> 00:46:48.920
I still listen to it. Okay. Here's a question.

00:46:49.079 --> 00:46:52.380
Do people still go to paradise today or was paradise

00:46:52.380 --> 00:46:55.260
only there before Jesus died on the cross? Really,

00:46:55.400 --> 00:46:57.440
what is the difference between paradise and heaven?

00:46:57.579 --> 00:47:00.099
When I left my body, I went directly to be with

00:47:00.099 --> 00:47:02.900
the Father and Jesus. There's no mention of paradise

00:47:02.900 --> 00:47:07.559
in that sense. Okay. So no one's up there giving

00:47:07.559 --> 00:47:11.840
you a history lesson. Seriously, you guys. What

00:47:11.840 --> 00:47:15.480
it used to be like. You're in the now now. Beautiful.

00:47:15.900 --> 00:47:18.780
And so just to let you know that some of the

00:47:18.780 --> 00:47:22.340
questions that we have, they don't bring life.

00:47:22.639 --> 00:47:24.480
That's a good way of putting it. They're not

00:47:24.480 --> 00:47:28.019
life questions. Okay. And in heaven, there's

00:47:28.019 --> 00:47:30.860
no one talking about that. When I got there,

00:47:30.980 --> 00:47:32.980
Jesus looked at me, saw himself on the inside

00:47:32.980 --> 00:47:36.199
of me, and I was in. I love that. that simple

00:47:36.199 --> 00:47:39.719
you know it it so we're not saying well you know

00:47:39.719 --> 00:47:41.880
there's paradise over here and we know you you

00:47:41.880 --> 00:47:45.719
um i say there's i sometimes say there's a you

00:47:45.719 --> 00:47:47.800
know quarantine area there's not a quarantine

00:47:47.800 --> 00:47:52.739
area you know i can understand why they would

00:47:52.739 --> 00:47:54.800
think that you know people would think that but

00:47:54.800 --> 00:47:57.800
the reality of it is uh i'm saying the bible

00:47:57.800 --> 00:48:00.579
but i'm thinking about um purgatory you know

00:48:00.579 --> 00:48:03.289
the the Catholics say purgatory. I could think,

00:48:03.349 --> 00:48:05.289
I know how they could think that, but the reality,

00:48:05.369 --> 00:48:07.010
you're born again, you know Jesus Christ the

00:48:07.010 --> 00:48:08.289
Lord is saving you, you're going to be with the

00:48:08.289 --> 00:48:11.489
Father of Jesus. There is no stopping off. You

00:48:11.489 --> 00:48:14.429
know, there's no rest areas along the way. I

00:48:14.429 --> 00:48:16.570
mean, you're going to direct to be with the Father.

00:48:16.929 --> 00:48:19.030
Everything about you is going to want to be with

00:48:19.030 --> 00:48:20.849
Him. And when I say everything, we always think

00:48:20.849 --> 00:48:23.309
about just our thinking, our mind. Your hand's

00:48:23.309 --> 00:48:25.150
going to want to be with Him. Your leg's going

00:48:25.150 --> 00:48:27.469
to want to be with Him. Everything, everything

00:48:27.469 --> 00:48:30.289
that you're created of is going to want to be.

00:48:30.349 --> 00:48:34.170
with you. Beautiful. Is that good news? That

00:48:34.170 --> 00:48:39.630
is good news. That is good news. Has Yeshua or

00:48:39.630 --> 00:48:42.750
Jesus downloaded anything to you about the regathering

00:48:42.750 --> 00:48:45.289
of all Israel, true Israel, and descendants of

00:48:45.289 --> 00:48:48.250
Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob? Many believe the 1948

00:48:48.250 --> 00:48:51.190
Jews were a political, demonic creation of the

00:48:51.190 --> 00:48:56.150
elite rulers of the world. That is the true second

00:48:56.150 --> 00:49:00.940
exodus. Yeah. I got to say, from a heavenly point

00:49:00.940 --> 00:49:02.820
of view, that was not a discussion up there.

00:49:03.500 --> 00:49:09.639
Okay. Isn't that good? Man, our discussions are

00:49:09.639 --> 00:49:12.699
different than God's discussions. You know, and

00:49:12.699 --> 00:49:15.159
so he has a whole different, he just wants his

00:49:15.159 --> 00:49:18.920
people home. He wants all his people home. You

00:49:18.920 --> 00:49:21.099
know, us that are grafted in, he wants us home.

00:49:22.659 --> 00:49:26.650
Is that good news? That is good news. What do

00:49:26.650 --> 00:49:29.769
you say to people who insist there is intelligent

00:49:29.769 --> 00:49:33.469
life beyond Earth? You know, and there is intelligent

00:49:33.469 --> 00:49:42.190
life beyond Earth. It's in heaven. And the aliens

00:49:42.190 --> 00:49:45.710
probably didn't come from there. I think many

00:49:45.710 --> 00:49:49.849
people are seeing demons and angels, and they

00:49:49.849 --> 00:49:52.570
don't know how to describe them. I go through

00:49:52.570 --> 00:49:56.309
the Bible to describe nine different angels that

00:49:56.309 --> 00:49:58.809
I encounter, and they don't all look like human

00:49:58.809 --> 00:50:00.849
beings. They look like everything you can imagine.

00:50:01.230 --> 00:50:02.570
You know, on the book, according to the book

00:50:02.570 --> 00:50:05.929
you gave me, it has that fiery pillar going up

00:50:05.929 --> 00:50:08.929
from the top. That's an angel itself. And so,

00:50:08.989 --> 00:50:13.409
you know, most people don't realize it. The pillar

00:50:13.409 --> 00:50:16.630
of fire was an angel. The pillar of the cloud

00:50:16.630 --> 00:50:21.480
was an angel. You read your Bible. It's in there.

00:50:22.400 --> 00:50:25.239
I will send my angel before you. I will send

00:50:25.239 --> 00:50:28.559
my angel before you. Yep. And it showed up as

00:50:28.559 --> 00:50:31.199
a pillar of fire. And it showed up as a cloud.

00:50:31.880 --> 00:50:35.699
You know, interesting, huh, you guys? Yeah, they

00:50:35.699 --> 00:50:38.199
all don't look like us, you guys. The word angel

00:50:38.199 --> 00:50:40.320
means messenger in the Greek and in the Hebrew.

00:50:40.539 --> 00:50:43.239
So anything that God uses as a messenger could

00:50:43.239 --> 00:50:46.960
be used as an angel. You that see angels, you

00:50:46.960 --> 00:50:49.420
need to ask now on, what is the message? Because

00:50:49.420 --> 00:50:52.179
they always got a message. What happens a lot

00:50:52.179 --> 00:50:55.059
of times is that we see the angel and we get

00:50:55.059 --> 00:50:57.039
wild about the angel and we don't ask what the

00:50:57.039 --> 00:51:02.579
message is. My story is like you go into a stop

00:51:02.579 --> 00:51:05.340
sign and you see the stop sign and you get outside

00:51:05.340 --> 00:51:07.800
and you start worshiping the stop sign. They

00:51:07.800 --> 00:51:10.599
got a message. You know what I mean? Seriously.

00:51:12.320 --> 00:51:15.349
And God doesn't... You've got to understand,

00:51:15.530 --> 00:51:18.329
you can go boldly to the throne of grace, so

00:51:18.329 --> 00:51:22.190
you have access to God all the time. The angels

00:51:22.190 --> 00:51:25.429
come to really enhance or to help you move forward,

00:51:25.489 --> 00:51:27.210
because they're ministering angels, to help you

00:51:27.210 --> 00:51:30.710
move forward. And most of us don't realize you've

00:51:30.710 --> 00:51:33.349
got more than one angel assigned to you. Depending

00:51:33.349 --> 00:51:36.170
on your work in the kingdom, you've got lots

00:51:36.170 --> 00:51:37.690
and lots and lots of angels that are assigned

00:51:37.690 --> 00:51:40.280
to you. And they're always working. We have a

00:51:40.280 --> 00:51:41.920
lot of them today working all over the place.

00:51:41.980 --> 00:51:44.260
And when they collaborate, whoa, boy, that's

00:51:44.260 --> 00:51:47.659
a whole different story. You know, everybody,

00:51:47.760 --> 00:51:49.699
if you're working in the kingdom of God, you

00:51:49.699 --> 00:51:51.780
got lots of angels. That's beautiful. You don't

00:51:51.780 --> 00:51:53.980
have one angel. You say one guardian angel, you

00:51:53.980 --> 00:51:57.579
got angels. You know, scripture references I

00:51:57.579 --> 00:52:00.780
use is Elijah when he was being surrounded and

00:52:00.780 --> 00:52:03.760
he told the Lord to open the eyes of his servant

00:52:03.760 --> 00:52:06.719
and his servant can see all those different angels,

00:52:06.840 --> 00:52:10.659
chair to fire. And horses are fired. You know?

00:52:10.820 --> 00:52:14.900
And there was people in the chariots. So what

00:52:14.900 --> 00:52:18.400
was the angels? The chariots and the horses.

00:52:19.380 --> 00:52:24.739
Wow. You know? And then you got when David was

00:52:24.739 --> 00:52:27.639
being called to be king of all of Israel. And

00:52:27.639 --> 00:52:29.480
he was wondering if he should go fight the Philistines.

00:52:29.739 --> 00:52:32.039
And the Lord said, when you hear the army of

00:52:32.039 --> 00:52:35.679
the Lord in the treetops. That was David's angels

00:52:35.679 --> 00:52:37.599
that were being sent to fight in the spiritual

00:52:37.599 --> 00:52:40.539
realm. Is that cool? Is that cool? Yeah, that's

00:52:40.539 --> 00:52:43.179
cool. You know what's so cool about that? Let

00:52:43.179 --> 00:52:44.940
me tell you this authority thing. Let's go back

00:52:44.940 --> 00:52:47.280
to that. Before, God would be the one that sends

00:52:47.280 --> 00:52:52.659
the angels. Now you can. You have that authority.

00:52:54.360 --> 00:52:57.219
You have the authority now to direct angels to

00:52:57.219 --> 00:53:01.260
fight in the kingdom of God. It's probably best

00:53:01.260 --> 00:53:04.960
to get the... unction of the Holy Spirit. Well,

00:53:04.960 --> 00:53:08.420
they're not going to move unless it's the Word

00:53:08.420 --> 00:53:11.460
of God. Of course. If it ain't the Word of God,

00:53:11.659 --> 00:53:14.260
you're speaking a whole different language to

00:53:14.260 --> 00:53:16.920
them. They don't understand. You speak the Word

00:53:16.920 --> 00:53:21.719
of God. By His stripes, I am you. That's the

00:53:21.719 --> 00:53:25.639
Word of God. That's so good. I just put that

00:53:25.639 --> 00:53:30.019
out there so that you can start. God is assigned

00:53:30.019 --> 00:53:31.980
angels. Greater is he that's in you than he that's

00:53:31.980 --> 00:53:34.019
in the world. And he's giving you angels to help

00:53:34.019 --> 00:53:36.019
you. You guys got a lot of work. I mean, a lot

00:53:36.019 --> 00:53:39.159
of help to do a lot of work. How come we ain't

00:53:39.159 --> 00:53:44.199
getting a lot of work done? This shouldn't have

00:53:44.199 --> 00:53:48.269
done that. But. And then the last one I use is

00:53:48.269 --> 00:53:51.530
Jesus in the garden. And there he is. And someone

00:53:51.530 --> 00:53:54.909
cuts off one of the servant's ears. And Peter

00:53:54.909 --> 00:53:56.809
decides that he would go ahead and fight with

00:53:56.809 --> 00:53:59.869
a sword. And Jesus says, no, my father can send

00:53:59.869 --> 00:54:03.030
me 12 legions of angels. Remember that? Those

00:54:03.030 --> 00:54:04.809
were the angels that were assigned to Jesus.

00:54:05.449 --> 00:54:08.210
And guess what? If you break it down, there's

00:54:08.210 --> 00:54:12.570
72 ,000 angels. That's a lot of angels, you guys.

00:54:13.210 --> 00:54:17.329
And they're not assigned to you for life. That

00:54:17.329 --> 00:54:20.630
means as you change in how he wants you to do

00:54:20.630 --> 00:54:22.750
things on the planet, he reassigns different

00:54:22.750 --> 00:54:26.309
angels to you. And every angel is created for

00:54:26.309 --> 00:54:30.349
a purpose. So as your purpose changes, guess

00:54:30.349 --> 00:54:33.989
what? You get a new group of angels. Is that

00:54:33.989 --> 00:54:36.769
cool? Is that cool? That is very cool. You know

00:54:36.769 --> 00:54:38.750
what happens a lot of times? I share this with

00:54:38.750 --> 00:54:40.389
people. Then they go start reading their Bible.

00:54:40.469 --> 00:54:42.349
And then God just starts showing them all kinds

00:54:42.349 --> 00:54:45.239
of stuff. Because it's in the Word. I'm not trying

00:54:45.239 --> 00:54:47.760
to, you know, you might say, I don't believe

00:54:47.760 --> 00:54:49.699
that. I don't agree with that. That's okay. Read

00:54:49.699 --> 00:54:52.099
the Word. It's going to come out. That's so good.

00:54:52.820 --> 00:54:58.119
So good. Is Jesus, as people imagine him, as

00:54:58.119 --> 00:55:00.920
like what we see in movies where Jesus is a white

00:55:00.920 --> 00:55:08.159
man with long hair? No one's thinking that way

00:55:08.159 --> 00:55:11.619
there. Sometimes I have to go back and think,

00:55:11.800 --> 00:55:14.460
okay. We never thought of that. That's not a

00:55:14.460 --> 00:55:18.500
thought in heaven, you know, of the color of

00:55:18.500 --> 00:55:21.659
his skin or what he looks like. He's the Savior.

00:55:22.079 --> 00:55:24.159
You know, in heaven, they don't refer to him

00:55:24.159 --> 00:55:28.219
as, you know, Jesus. They say Savior. Because

00:55:28.219 --> 00:55:30.780
that's what Jesus means. That's what Jesus means,

00:55:30.920 --> 00:55:35.219
yeah. He's the Savior. Our understanding of names

00:55:35.219 --> 00:55:39.940
in English is mostly like... What does that name

00:55:39.940 --> 00:55:41.900
mean? You don't even have a meaning for most

00:55:41.900 --> 00:55:45.239
names. But all you got in heaven was the meaning

00:55:45.239 --> 00:55:48.480
of the names. We got, but yeah. I mean, they

00:55:48.480 --> 00:55:51.400
were called what they were. What they were. And

00:55:51.400 --> 00:55:53.780
he was Savior. So everybody referred to him as

00:55:53.780 --> 00:55:56.340
Savior. You know what I mean? But all the names

00:55:56.340 --> 00:55:59.119
that we refer to him on the planet mean Savior.

00:55:59.880 --> 00:56:03.139
You understand what I mean? In the Hebrew or

00:56:03.139 --> 00:56:06.639
in the Greek, it all means Savior. It does, you

00:56:06.639 --> 00:56:08.980
guys. But in saying that to you, I'm going to

00:56:08.980 --> 00:56:11.219
go back because I want to really... When I saw

00:56:11.219 --> 00:56:16.840
Jesus, he looked mostly liquid to me. And the

00:56:16.840 --> 00:56:20.820
reason he looked liquid mostly is because color

00:56:20.820 --> 00:56:23.860
was coming out of him. All kinds of color. So

00:56:23.860 --> 00:56:25.400
you can say he's every color you could think

00:56:25.400 --> 00:56:27.619
of, plus colors that you don't even know about.

00:56:27.840 --> 00:56:31.960
They were coming out of him. And then he changed.

00:56:32.559 --> 00:56:35.900
He would change, you guys. He would look different

00:56:35.900 --> 00:56:38.260
every moment. So I could see how someone could

00:56:38.260 --> 00:56:40.059
say he looks this way, he looks this way, he

00:56:40.059 --> 00:56:42.619
looks this way. Because every moment he changed.

00:56:42.780 --> 00:56:45.880
He just looked different. Now, you know how I

00:56:45.880 --> 00:56:49.139
am with Scripture. Okay, so let me bring in this

00:56:49.139 --> 00:56:50.639
scripture. Can I share this scripture with you?

00:56:50.719 --> 00:56:54.699
Please do. Because it was interesting when I

00:56:54.699 --> 00:57:00.699
found it years ago. It's found in Mark, the 16th

00:57:00.699 --> 00:57:04.179
chapter. I believe it's the 12th verse. Now,

00:57:04.199 --> 00:57:06.619
this is the same story of those guys that were

00:57:06.619 --> 00:57:08.980
traveling to Damascus. And they were on their

00:57:08.980 --> 00:57:12.519
way there. And as they were on their way there,

00:57:12.739 --> 00:57:15.400
Jesus showed up and they didn't recognize him.

00:57:15.460 --> 00:57:17.039
And then later on it said then their eyes were

00:57:17.039 --> 00:57:18.860
open and they could recognize him. Remember that,

00:57:18.860 --> 00:57:21.860
you guys? And he said, didn't our hearts burn

00:57:21.860 --> 00:57:24.320
when he talked to us? Okay. This is the same

00:57:24.320 --> 00:57:27.039
story, but it's only in one verse in Luke. And

00:57:27.039 --> 00:57:30.039
it says that after this, he appeared in a different

00:57:30.039 --> 00:57:37.940
form. You want me to go back to that? Mark, the

00:57:37.940 --> 00:57:41.820
16th chapter, the 12th verse. After this, he

00:57:41.820 --> 00:57:45.840
appeared in a different form to two of them while

00:57:45.840 --> 00:57:50.820
they were on their way to the country. Jesus

00:57:50.820 --> 00:57:53.920
can show himself. I really believe he shows himself

00:57:53.920 --> 00:57:57.280
as you are going to receive him. Oh, that's good.

00:57:57.739 --> 00:58:00.239
That's what I really believe. Now, I'm going

00:58:00.239 --> 00:58:01.460
to tell you something. When you get to heaven,

00:58:01.559 --> 00:58:05.599
you get to see him as he is. And we will be like

00:58:05.599 --> 00:58:08.760
him. Okay. And it doesn't matter no more the

00:58:08.760 --> 00:58:10.679
physical appearance or what he looks like because

00:58:10.679 --> 00:58:14.340
now you get to see him as he is. Is that good

00:58:14.340 --> 00:58:19.139
news, you guys? Oh, yes. Because my friend, you're

00:58:19.139 --> 00:58:23.219
from Kenya. Is he from Kenya? Ethiopia. That's

00:58:23.219 --> 00:58:28.760
great. It's even better. Okay. I remember seeing

00:58:28.760 --> 00:58:31.139
a Bible a long time ago. It was called the African

00:58:31.139 --> 00:58:34.460
Bible. And I had it. And it would take him pictures

00:58:34.460 --> 00:58:38.619
that the Ethiopians had drawn of Jesus, painted

00:58:38.619 --> 00:58:41.340
of Jesus. And this is before Michelangelo did

00:58:41.340 --> 00:58:45.420
his 16th chapel. Okay. And what they painted

00:58:45.420 --> 00:58:49.519
Jesus as is an African man on a cross. Okay.

00:58:49.739 --> 00:58:56.199
And dark skin with short hair. And that's before

00:58:56.199 --> 00:58:58.960
Michelangelo. Do you guys hear what I just said?

00:58:59.219 --> 00:59:03.769
Okay. You know, Michelangelo came up with his

00:59:03.769 --> 00:59:07.750
remnants of Jesus later on. But the Ethiopians

00:59:07.750 --> 00:59:10.530
had already painted Jesus as a man with dark

00:59:10.530 --> 00:59:15.590
skin. Dark skin. Not like me. Dark skin. Okay.

00:59:15.710 --> 00:59:19.230
On a cross. Dying. That's how. I believe Jesus

00:59:19.230 --> 00:59:22.110
showed up and showed himself that way. Yeah.

00:59:23.030 --> 00:59:26.909
Because he could take on a different form. I

00:59:26.909 --> 00:59:30.110
know that blows some boxes, really. Because we're

00:59:30.110 --> 00:59:34.079
stuck with the white. Jesus we've seen. And some

00:59:34.079 --> 00:59:36.480
say, well, he looks more like Jewish. Well, in

00:59:36.480 --> 00:59:39.099
heaven, no one's saying he's Jewish. No one's

00:59:39.099 --> 00:59:43.340
saying he's Caucasian or he's African or anything

00:59:43.340 --> 00:59:47.519
like that. He's Jesus. Right. I remember one

00:59:47.519 --> 00:59:51.900
time I was in a school. Were you with me, Ricky?

00:59:52.000 --> 00:59:55.760
I think you were with me. I was in Napoma High

00:59:55.760 --> 00:59:59.780
School. And the kids asked me what race Jesus

00:59:59.780 --> 01:00:04.300
was. And I said, in heaven, there is no race.

01:00:04.440 --> 01:00:07.360
They're just sons and daughters. And Ricky, remember,

01:00:07.539 --> 01:00:10.219
all the kids stood up and shouted and clapped

01:00:10.219 --> 01:00:16.159
and yelled. Wow. So in heaven, I'm telling you

01:00:16.159 --> 01:00:17.920
right now, we're not looking at the color of

01:00:17.920 --> 01:00:20.340
your skin anymore. It doesn't matter. It's one

01:00:20.340 --> 01:00:23.320
human race. It's Jesus. Is that good news? That

01:00:23.320 --> 01:00:28.199
is good news. Hallelujah. I have one more question.

01:00:28.400 --> 01:00:31.849
Okay. What happened, and we need to wrap it up,

01:00:31.929 --> 01:00:36.809
what happened when Adam and Eve ate the fruit

01:00:36.809 --> 01:00:38.769
of the knowledge, the tree of the knowledge of

01:00:38.769 --> 01:00:43.789
good and evil? What changes happened that put

01:00:43.789 --> 01:00:46.969
us where we are now in this physical realm? There

01:00:46.969 --> 01:00:49.989
was a lot of decay came in, mainly. If I just

01:00:49.989 --> 01:00:53.460
say it really quick, decay, we call it... you

01:00:53.460 --> 01:00:56.940
know, but decay came in and things started dying

01:00:56.940 --> 01:00:59.400
and things were not supposed to die. And especially

01:00:59.400 --> 01:01:02.059
us, we got separated from the Father. And when

01:01:02.059 --> 01:01:04.219
you're separated from the Father, when the demons

01:01:04.219 --> 01:01:07.480
and devils and evil spirits get, before, you

01:01:07.480 --> 01:01:09.019
know, they were angels. Some people don't believe

01:01:09.019 --> 01:01:11.639
they were angels. They, this and that. But the

01:01:11.639 --> 01:01:13.860
reality, they were angels that chose, one third

01:01:13.860 --> 01:01:18.440
of heaven chose not to go with God. They chose

01:01:18.440 --> 01:01:22.380
to go with Lucifer. And Lucifer, I always tell

01:01:22.380 --> 01:01:27.619
people, does not no longer exist. He's the devil.

01:01:28.000 --> 01:01:31.739
He's Satan now. But the word Lucifer, which was

01:01:31.739 --> 01:01:35.440
a good name. I've tried to get someone to name

01:01:35.440 --> 01:01:37.139
their child Lucifer, but it ain't happening.

01:01:40.009 --> 01:01:43.550
But if you think about what the name means, it's

01:01:43.550 --> 01:01:46.449
Lightgiver. That's all the name means, you know

01:01:46.449 --> 01:01:49.130
what I mean? It really is a good name, but I

01:01:49.130 --> 01:01:53.619
know it's hard to get over that. But the reality

01:01:53.619 --> 01:01:57.739
of it is that decay came into the planet. I mean,

01:01:57.760 --> 01:01:59.719
not the planet, but yeah, it came into the planet

01:01:59.719 --> 01:02:01.880
because the planet wasn't even supposed to decay

01:02:01.880 --> 01:02:06.579
anymore. And when decay came into the third chapter

01:02:06.579 --> 01:02:09.960
and we got separated from the Father, Sharon,

01:02:10.159 --> 01:02:14.199
that was a terrible day. Yeah. But the good thing

01:02:14.199 --> 01:02:15.820
about it, Jesus Christ came and died on that

01:02:15.820 --> 01:02:21.039
cross. Amen. And then we were, you doing it for

01:02:21.039 --> 01:02:28.000
me? Yeah, see? Yes. See how he looks? Mm -hmm.

01:02:29.219 --> 01:02:33.440
Yeah. He could show you, you know, and there's

01:02:33.440 --> 01:02:36.420
one on the cross, too, that was really, really,

01:02:36.539 --> 01:02:43.920
see? Yes. Yes. That's cool. We'll have to add

01:02:43.920 --> 01:02:48.059
that to the podcast. Yeah. And that was before.

01:02:48.219 --> 01:02:51.269
You guys got to understand, that's before. You

01:02:51.269 --> 01:02:53.809
know what I mean? Michael Angelo did his pictures.

01:02:54.030 --> 01:02:58.409
Sure. You know. But to go back to this, I say

01:02:58.409 --> 01:03:02.710
this will happen. Adam clocked to sin. You know

01:03:02.710 --> 01:03:05.289
how you have time? Because time, we were created

01:03:05.289 --> 01:03:08.349
out of time. We were never created to be in time.

01:03:08.730 --> 01:03:11.409
None of us in this room. You were created to

01:03:11.409 --> 01:03:14.269
be in time. The other thing, we were never created

01:03:14.269 --> 01:03:16.630
to be separated. That's why we have such greed.

01:03:17.240 --> 01:03:23.500
We were not wired for separation. Do you know

01:03:23.500 --> 01:03:26.440
what I mean? To be separated. We were wired to

01:03:26.440 --> 01:03:29.820
be together with each other forever and never

01:03:29.820 --> 01:03:35.000
have that separation. But to go back, so we were

01:03:35.000 --> 01:03:40.159
out of time. Adam messed up, and we came into

01:03:40.159 --> 01:03:42.699
time, and we started deteriorating, started falling

01:03:42.699 --> 01:03:47.099
apart, getting old. Yeah. Okay. In the Hebrew,

01:03:47.380 --> 01:03:52.099
most of our translations say you will surely

01:03:52.099 --> 01:03:54.699
die if you do that. But in the Hebrew, it says

01:03:54.699 --> 01:03:58.119
dying, you shall die. In other words, the dying

01:03:58.119 --> 01:04:02.719
process began at that moment. And it was a process

01:04:02.719 --> 01:04:05.880
of dying. So that's what happened. The good news

01:04:05.880 --> 01:04:09.360
is Jesus came and I'd say clocked us out. Amen.

01:04:09.820 --> 01:04:12.739
In old days, you would have the clock. Do you

01:04:12.739 --> 01:04:16.639
remember the clock? Yeah. And I'd say Adam clocked

01:04:16.639 --> 01:04:20.079
his in and Jesus clocked his out. Awesome. So

01:04:20.079 --> 01:04:25.139
what happened to the – Like the spirit man and

01:04:25.139 --> 01:04:27.800
the rebellious part of us. It's like there's

01:04:27.800 --> 01:04:29.940
a part of us that wants to do right, you know,

01:04:29.960 --> 01:04:33.820
like Romans 7. I want to do the right thing and

01:04:33.820 --> 01:04:36.420
I don't do it. And I want to not do the wrong

01:04:36.420 --> 01:04:42.099
thing and I do it. So was that part of the transition?

01:04:42.280 --> 01:04:45.199
That was part of the transition, you know. You

01:04:45.199 --> 01:04:47.300
know, that's a long teaching that you're talking

01:04:47.300 --> 01:04:53.199
about. Well, let's do it sometime. I got my buddy

01:04:53.199 --> 01:04:56.179
over there. He's looking at me, shaking his head,

01:04:56.320 --> 01:05:00.340
like, don't get me, dude. But the reality of

01:05:00.340 --> 01:05:04.400
it is that, yeah, you know, that deterioration

01:05:04.400 --> 01:05:07.260
came into our body. When I separated from my

01:05:07.260 --> 01:05:09.460
body, I came to understand something about my

01:05:09.460 --> 01:05:12.340
body. And it said something to me even when I

01:05:12.340 --> 01:05:14.199
came back. It said you would never do this to

01:05:14.199 --> 01:05:18.920
me. My body said that, you guys. You know what

01:05:18.920 --> 01:05:21.320
I mean? And this is what I said. You're alive?

01:05:22.380 --> 01:05:25.199
That's what I said. And yet the Bible tells you

01:05:25.199 --> 01:05:27.579
that fleshly side of you, that carnal side of

01:05:27.579 --> 01:05:31.280
you is alive. And it's at war with the spiritual

01:05:31.280 --> 01:05:34.780
side. Most of us think it's the devil that is

01:05:34.780 --> 01:05:38.000
leading us astray. And I'm going to tell you

01:05:38.000 --> 01:05:40.420
something right now. It's your flesh that's leading

01:05:40.420 --> 01:05:42.340
you astray. And the devil is just coming along

01:05:42.340 --> 01:05:45.809
to help. He's encouraging you to make wrong choices.

01:05:45.989 --> 01:05:49.849
I'm serious. Your spirit always wants to do right.

01:05:49.969 --> 01:05:51.750
It always wants to do what Jesus wants to do.

01:05:51.869 --> 01:05:54.829
It always does. It doesn't have to be convinced

01:05:54.829 --> 01:05:57.929
to do the right thing. It was created for rightness.

01:05:58.769 --> 01:06:00.889
And just to end on this, when I got to heaven,

01:06:01.130 --> 01:06:02.989
everything was right. There was nothing wrong,

01:06:03.150 --> 01:06:06.460
and I did it. And I remember that. And then I

01:06:06.460 --> 01:06:08.800
came back to the idea that we were created for

01:06:08.800 --> 01:06:11.079
rightness, not rightness according to how I say

01:06:11.079 --> 01:06:13.219
it right, according to how he says it right.

01:06:13.420 --> 01:06:15.980
And the reason a lot of us get upset when something

01:06:15.980 --> 01:06:18.300
goes wrong is because we were never created to

01:06:18.300 --> 01:06:20.320
be in wrongness. We were created to be in rightness.

01:06:21.320 --> 01:06:24.599
So you get upset and mad and you were never created

01:06:24.599 --> 01:06:26.460
to be in wrongness. You were created to be in

01:06:26.460 --> 01:06:30.420
rightness. Is that cool? Is that cool? Yeah,

01:06:30.500 --> 01:06:35.490
I just changed the music. But that's cool. Beautiful.

01:06:35.490 --> 01:06:38.469
I hope this answered questions. This was good,

01:06:38.630 --> 01:06:41.949
wasn't it? So thank you so much for doing this

01:06:41.949 --> 01:06:45.829
with us today. This was wonderful. And can we

01:06:45.829 --> 01:06:49.309
just say thank you, Jesus, for this? This was

01:06:49.309 --> 01:06:54.130
wonderful. Thank you, Lord, for opening the eyes

01:06:54.130 --> 01:06:56.670
of our understanding to gain more understanding

01:06:56.670 --> 01:06:59.349
of how it is in heaven so we can start doing

01:06:59.349 --> 01:07:07.880
it here on earth. In Jesus' name. If you enjoyed

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