America’s Josiah Moment: Rick Pearson on Trump, Mystery Babylon, and the Coming Gog-Magog War

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Rick Pearson, you've written a very interesting

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book called America's Josiah Moment. You draw

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some very interesting parallels with end time

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prophecy between ancient Babylon and America.

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Can you kind of elaborate that? Because I know

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your story well enough to know it's pretty incredible,

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angels and all that stuff. So I want to find

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out, my readers want to know what the Lord showed

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you through that angelic visit. Okay, I say that

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when Donald Trump dodged a bullet, America dodged

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a bullet. Because Donald Trump is doing exactly

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what Josiah did in the Old Testament. America

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is a covenant nation. America cut a covenant

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with the pilgrim. The pilgrims cut a covenant

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with God when she was created. And Josiah read

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the Torah and ripped his clothes. because he

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realized the covenant nation of Israel had backslidden

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into Babylonian religions of abortion and Ashteroth

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poles and all types of immorality. And Josiah

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brought the nation back to God, got rid of all

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those Babylonian religions, and God gave... Israel

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a reprieve Donald Trump is a lot like Josiah

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because he's trying to bring the nation back

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to God through rededicating the nation and that

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a lot of people don't know this but America has

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53 biblical descriptions in the Bible Except

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she's not called America. She's called mystery

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babble on the great and America has fulfilled

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all of those descriptions, but the one that's

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the most right now, it says that the beast system

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who were fighting the world economic forum and

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the globalists have one mind and it says they

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will make war with the lamb inside of Babylon.

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And the lamb will overcome them because they

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are the called, the chosen and the faithful.

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So the election of Donald Trump is exactly like

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Josiah in the Bible in the sense that he's trying

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to pull the nation back to God. In fact, in Revelation

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18, it says, come out of her, my people, be not

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partaker of her sins, nor in her plagues that

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shall come. So in that sense, America is fulfilling

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her role in Bible prophecy. And so is Donald

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Trump. And let's talk about these 53 things,

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because there are people that says, well, America

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is not in the Bible, but you're saying it is.

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So kind of walk me through that. What's happening?

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You know, we see that things are kind of getting

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worse and worse. People even are trying to predict

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that the Antichrist is this person or that person.

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What do you think? Well, first of all, the Bible,

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there are eight providential nations in scripture.

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And Daniel laid the foundation for that in Daniel

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2, when Nebuchadnezzar had a vision of the golden

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image. In Revelation 13 and Revelation 17, the

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same beast system that Daniel saw is in those

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chapters. And it says that five world empires

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had fallen at the time John received the revelation.

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It says that one is meaning Rome at the time

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John received it. Then it says one empire is

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yet to come and the beast is the eighth. So when

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you look at that seventh nation in scripture,

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she has 53 biblical descriptions and the USA

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has met every description. I can give you some

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if you want. Please do. Okay. First of all, all

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the other empires are iconed as animals, but

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the seventh is iconed as a woman. And she sits

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upon the seven mountains of the earth. And that

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word sit means, is kathamea. It means she rules

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over or polices over the seven continents of

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the earth. And she has ports, she has sailors,

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she has merchants of the earth that all come

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and trade with her, she's the richest, most powerful

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nation in the history of the world according

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to scripture. There's none richer than Babylon

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the Great of the latter days. Now America fits

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all those descriptions. With the ports, with

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New York. with, she sits upon the water, the

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water, our nations, tongues, peoples, and multitudes.

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And we have an iconic symbol in New York, the

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Statue of Liberty, who was designed with seven

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spikes on her head, representing the seven mountains

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of the earth. Now, to take it even farther, Jeremiah

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50 verse 23, calls Babylon the hammer of the

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whole Earth. Recently, on June 12, 2025, America

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went in and surgically removed some nuclear facilities

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from Iran. They called it Operation Midnight

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Hammer. This is exactly what Jeremiah said she

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would look like. She would sit on the seven continents

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of the Earth with her money, with her wealth,

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she would trade with the merchants of the earth,

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but through her military, she would be the strongest.

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So now you have a nation, the United States of

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America, which spends $1 trillion a year on her

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military, which is the same as the other eight

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countries combined. She has 742 military facilities

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located in 179 countries around the earth. The

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United States of America is the most powerful

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nation in the history of the world, and those

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are just a few of the descriptions of Babylon

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the Great. Steve, we're just scratching the surface

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when I talk about this. What about all the other

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empires that came before America? For example,

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the British Empire, where does that fit in? Well,

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the British Empire, as far as Scripture's concerned,

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was not part of the description. She doesn't

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meet the whole descriptions of Babylon. Her iconic

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symbol was not of a woman. She didn't sit on

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all seven mountains of the earth. Back then,

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she sat on a large area, but the U .S. has 65

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% of the world's satellites spread all around

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the earth. I mean, America is by far the highest,

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most technically advanced powerful nation that's

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ever been created. And according to scripture,

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she's fulfilling every description of Babylon

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the Great. Now Babylon rises up before the beast

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system, immediately before the beast system rises.

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It says the beast and the 10 horns will hate

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the woman. and they'll make war with her, with

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the lamb inside of Babylon. And the lamb will

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overcome because of the call the chosen and the

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faithful. So this whole scenario now, what you

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see happening around the world, you see nations

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turning against America. And you even see God's

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people within America that are turning against

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America. But there's a remnant, Steve. There's

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a remnant of blood bought believers. who are

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rising up, lifting up a shout. And it says in

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Jeremiah 50 that God will fill Babylon with his

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people and they will fan her and they will raise

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up a shout. Now when a farmer goes and fans his

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crop, he puts the shovel in the ground, he throws

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the wheat and the chaff up in the air. and the

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wind comes and separates the wheat and the chaff.

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This is what's happening right now in Babylon.

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And he says, I will send a destroying wind inside

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of Babylon and it'll come forth out of my treasures.

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That's the call, the chosen and the faithful.

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We're in an end time battle and the bride will

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be rewarded for her works. around the world,

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but we're getting close to that time when God

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is going to put the world into the tribulation

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period and it will begin with a war and America

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and the 65 million children that she has sacrificed

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is going to be judged. So when the judgment comes

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down on America, the bride will go up. Well,

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let's talk about some of the things that are

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in the news. Of course, everyone's talking about

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the war with Iran. Where does that fit in to

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this in your in your belief? OK, well, the Gog

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Magog war is the is the war that kicks off the

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tribulation period. And in the Gog Magog war,

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you have Russia, Iran, Turkey, Ethiopia, Libya.

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You have a combination of nations that come down

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on Israel. But that cannot happen. until she

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is sitting without any walls, sitting at peace.

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And it says that these nations all of a sudden

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come to take a spoil. So right now we have the

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Gaza Strip being cleaned out. We have Hamas,

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we have Hezbollah being cleaned up. We have Iran

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pretty well. Her military's being knocked out.

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But Russia, has 55 % of the world's nuclear weapons,

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and they have hypersonic weapons. Scripture says

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in Jeremiah 51, 27, Iran, Persia, Eskenaz, Southern

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Russia, and Ararat, Turkey, will make war and

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burn Babylon. So those are three out of the seven

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in the Gog Magog war that come down and they

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make war with Israel. And at the end of that

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war, the result is this. I will send fire on

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Gog and Magog and among them who dwell carelessly

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in the aisles. This is World War III. The only

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nation that dwells carelessly in the latter days

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is the latter day nation called Babylon the Great.

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And America has fulfilled every description of

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Babylon. So when this war comes, the Gog Magog

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War, we're not gonna watch it on television.

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When your staff sent me some information about

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you, there were a lot of things that caught my

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attention. One of them was about what they're

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calling America Back to God on the Rededicate

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250. Tell me the significance of that in light

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of what we've been discussing. Well, 250 represents

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two things, rebellion against divine authority,

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which results in divine judgment. The 250, the

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most famous appearance of 250 in scripture is

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number 16, where Korah led a group of 250 prominent

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Israelite leaders in a rebellion against the

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leadership of Moses and Aaron. and it was their

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defiance against God -appointed leadership and

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their rejection of the nation's divine moral

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protocol that resulted in divine judgment. The

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earth opened up and literally swallowed them.

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Now they were rebelling not only against Moses,

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but against someone who was attempting to keep

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the children of Israel within their covenant

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laws. that God had given them. So when we see

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people marching down the street with a rainbow

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flag with six colors saying that we're here,

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we're queer, we're going to rule the world, they're

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not going against necessarily the laws of the

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land. They're going against the divine laws that

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God gave America because the rainbow is actually

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seven colors. They've made it six colors, so

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you have six the number of man versus seven the

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number of God. And this is a covenant nation.

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Now when you shed 65 million children to the

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God of Malek, Numbers says, do not shed the innocent

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blood of man. If you shed the innocent blood

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of man by man, shall your blood be shed. There

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is a divine reciprocal when you shed innocent

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blood now we have been given a reprieve but if

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Donald Trump had not gotten in and Kamala had

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gotten in you would see what's happening in Canada

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happening in America because the World Economic

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Forum has invaded Canada and It's very dark now.

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They're making laws that you can't quote scripture

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in the Bible They're taking away free speech.

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They're arresting people now for conversion therapy.

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This is all part of the global darkness that

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will come in the tribulation period. But America

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is standing in the gap right now and 250 is very,

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very critical. It's a time right now in American's

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history to choose you this day who you will serve.

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You'll either serve God and his commandments,

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or you'll serve secular humanism. And what the

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Bible says is the darkness that comes in the

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tribulation period with the Antichrist. You know,

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you're a businessman, not a theologian, at least

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not by training, but you have a very interesting

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story that I want you to tell my viewers about

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how you got a visitation and kind of got started

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along this line. And of course, you've studied

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it over the years and written a book. And before

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we're done, I want you to tell us about America's

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Josiah Moment, because it's a book that I want

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my viewers to get and to read. But tell me about

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that special visitation that you had. I learned

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about America in Scripture, not in a seminary.

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I didn't learn it in a Bible school. I learned

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it flat on my back, shaking like a leaf, close

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to 40 years ago in 1986. I was convicted by the

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Lord. I hadn't been tithing and I gave 10 % of

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my money to medical missions to help people.

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And I made a vow to God from this point on, Lord,

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I'm all yours. I'm going to use my money in business

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to help other people. When I made that vow and

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released that money Steve something happened

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spiritually I opened a portal just like Cornelius

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in Acts chapter 10 the angel came to him and

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said your arms and your offerings have come up

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for a memorial to God Go talk to Peter and he

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will show you the way of salvation I had exactly

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the same experience only I was told about things

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in America that were coming And for a period

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of seven days, I totally lost my appetite. And

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it was like having music. You know, when you

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have a song in your head and you can't get it

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out, I was getting downloaded all kinds of things

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about America. The same spirits that rose during

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the time of Babylon are rising again in America.

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And the darkness that was going to come to America

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as far as sexual immorality and corruption. and

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I could hardly believe what I was hearing. And

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then on the seventh day, on the seventh night

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of the seventh day, an audible voice woke me

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up, called me by name, and an angel came into

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the room and told me and confirmed what I heard

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was from the Lord. Now this shook me up. Steve,

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I slept for three weeks. with this Bible on my

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chest, and I couldn't believe what I was hearing

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that was coming to America. And so I went to

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Tulsa, Oklahoma, and I had Oral Roberts, who

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I'm a graduate of ORU, I had him lay hands on

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me because I thought maybe I was having a nervous

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breakdown. And he laid his hands on me, his right

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hand, and he started laughing. He said, Rick,

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you're not crazy. God's spoken to you, son. Don't

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be afraid. Now he didn't know what the Lord had

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told me, but it was everything in my book has

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documented everything that I was told back then

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is documented in the book. And I have a protocol

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on my TV program, Prophecy USA. If the Bible

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doesn't say it, neither will I. So what comes

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out of here? must be back by what's in this book.

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And that's what set the pace and set the stage

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for the five books that I've written. We got

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three bestsellers, five books, and we're on a

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day start Saturday nights at 10 .30, called Prophecy

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USA, and I'm breaking it down, all 53 biblical

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descriptions of America in the Bible. and I'm

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telling people to get your house in order. Scripture

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says, come out of her my people, be not partaker

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of her sins, nor in her plagues. So it was that

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revelation in 1986 that set the stage for this.

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Now I never went on TV until I was 65, Steve.

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And I had a supernatural door open to go on television.

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And so now here we are, I think we're on 250

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stations in 55 nations right now. That's a pretty

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incredible story. And I mentioned earlier your

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book. Why don't you talk to us about the book

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and tell people what to expect when they buy

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it and read it? Okay, when you get the book,

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first of all, the second chapter, I will describe

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all 53 biblical descriptions of Babylon the Great.

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And it's all documented by five different prophets.

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In scripture, Steve, we've had four or five PhDs

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write us and tell us that they've vetted our

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material and what they learned at Bible school

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and seminary was wrong. They believe that the

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United States of America is not an experiment

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in democracy, but it's a fulfillment of divine

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proclamation. God saw America. and the prophet

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saw America before she came. And for the appointed

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time, the vision waits for the appointed time

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and all of those descriptions are now here. So

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we go through all 53 descriptions. We talk about

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Josiah. We talk about Donald Trump has the spirit

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of Jehu. It says that Elisha went and anointed

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Jehu. because God wanted the land cleansed of

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bail worship. So he went and he anointed a man

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that was in the army. He wasn't a political guy

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at all, but it says he rode furiously like a

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madman. And he went to Jezreel and he had Jezebel,

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who's the queen of bail worship, had her thrown

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out the window and ran over with his chariot.

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And then he... killed both Joram and Ahaziah,

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who were the sons of Ahab and Jezebel. And then

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he had a great conference in Jezreel. He called

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all the Baal worshipers together. And he said,

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Ahab worshiped Baal greatly, or a little, but

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I will worship him greatly. and they had all

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of the Baal worshipers come, all of the priests,

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and they had a huge conference. And at the end

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of the conference, the Baal worshipers said,

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where are the children that we can shed their

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blood to Malik? And Jehu said, we're not gonna

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shed their blood, we're gonna shed your blood.

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And they killed every Baal worshiper in Israel.

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And that was Jehu. He was radical, he was...

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He was just a wild man. And Donald Trump is nothing

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like that, but he's unconventional. And God is

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using the leadership of Donald Trump to try and

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bring America back. And some will come back to

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God and others won't, but there's coming a day

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with this Gog -Magog war where God will judge

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Babylon. It's all in scripture and it's all in

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the book. 12 times in scripture, Babylon is destroyed

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by fire in one hour. She becomes the least of

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all nations. And then the tribulation begins.

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But in the midst of those flames, God has a supernatural

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exit plan for the church. And that's the rapture

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of the church. We show in scripture that the

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rapture of the church will be on one of the most

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violent days in the history of mankind. It'll

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be a war. between Gog and Magog, and they will

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come against Israel, but they also will do a

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preemptive strike on Babylon the Great. There's

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a lot in the book, Steve. It's hard to unwrap

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in 25 minutes, but I'll guarantee you, I'm not

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saying anything that isn't backed by scripture.

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So I want you to elaborate on that because I

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know you say there's gonna be a convergence.

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You just touched on it. There are three things

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that you... say are going to happen that are

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pretty incredible and how can people prepare?

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Okay, the rapture of the church. Would you like

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me to give some scriptures or just or just absolutely

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give us the scriptures? Okay, people can look

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it up. Luke 17 29. Jesus talked about the rapture.

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He said this, but the same day that Lot went

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out of Sodom and Gomorrah, it rained fire and

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brimstone from heaven and destroyed them all.

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Even thus shall it be. in the day when the Son

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of Man is revealed. Two women shall be grinding,

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one shall be taken, one shall be left. Two men

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shall be in the field, one shall be taken, one

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shall be left. He's talking about the rapture

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taking place exactly like it was on the day that

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Sodom and Gomorrah was destroyed. Paul in 2 Thessalonians

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1 -7 said, and to you who are troubled, rest

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with us when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed

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from heaven. revealed as in the rapture with

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his mighty angels in flaming fire, taking vengeance

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on them that know not God and obeying not the

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gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ. The final identifiers

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of Babylon the Great in Jeremiah 50 -40 and Isaiah

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13 -19 is she will look exactly like Sodom and

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Gomorrah. Now in Revelation 3 -8, it says, I

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know your works. and I've set before you an open

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door that no man can shut. Because you've kept

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the word of my patience, I will keep you from

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the hour of trial which shall come upon the whole

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earth to try them who dwell upon the whole earth."

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This is the open door. It will open just like

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the three Hebrew boys, Shadrach, Meshach, and

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Abednego. were thrown into a burning fiery furnace

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and the flames had no power. When the judgment

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comes down on America, the flames will have no

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power on the remnant. Now this is all tied into

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the Gog Magog war, which I've already said he

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will burn Gog and Magog and those who dwell carelessly

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in the Isles. And Babylon is deposed by the globalists.

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It says, and the 10 horns which thou sawest on

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the beast shall hate the woman and shall make

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her desolate and naked and eat her flesh and

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burn her with fire. For God hath put in their

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hearts to fulfill his will and to agree and give

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their kingdom unto the beast until the words

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of God are fulfilled. The tribulation period

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will begin with the Gog Magog war and with the

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destruction of America. and then for seven years,

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the beast system will rule and reign overnight.

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The U .S. currency will be dissolved. The digital

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currency that we're all hearing about will be

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initiated probably within weeks after that war.

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A global census will be taken. A mark will be

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issued on the right hand and on the forehead.

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This is all part and parcel of what we see happening

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in the tribulation period But America will not

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exist in the tribulation period Wow, and all

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this is in your book America's Josiah moment,

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which is available on Amazon I checked it out

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earlier today and It's something that you want

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to check out. I really appreciate this. You have

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a very interesting testimony Thank you for all

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you do for the kingdom of God. Thank you for

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your television program. Thank you for sharing

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your heart with us today. I'll be back with a

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closing thought after this. Thank you, Steve.

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Thank you for watching my podcast today. I hope

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that you will buy Rick's book. I think it's very,

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very important. I think the things that you just

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heard are things that not everyone is teaching,

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but to me, it makes a lot of sense. If you enjoyed

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the podcast, share it with others. We'll be putting

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some reels up. You may be interested in that.

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And tune in again next time for another episode

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of The Strang Report. Thank you for watching

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and God bless you.