Green Beret Exposes the Spiritual Deception Behind UFOs & UAP Disclosure | Paul Bock

0:00 Hello everyone and welcome to the Strang Report podcast. I'm Stephen Strang. Thanks for tuning in. Well, today I'm going to interview someone very interesting. In all the years I've interviewed people and I've had the opportunity to interview four US presidents. I've never had an interview like this. I'm going to talk to Paul Bach. This is his new book that's coming out in a few weeks. You can get it on Amazon. That's probably the easiest way to do it. And he has a very, very interesting story. I just finished reading the book myself. It's excellent. The book is called The Disclosure Agenda. And there's been all this stuff in the news about UAPs, UFOs, and things have been coming out about the government. And I'm not sure exactly where the interview is going to go, but we'll get started. And the interesting thing is that Paul describes everything from a spiritual perspective. So... Stay tuned. This is going to be one of the most interesting podcasts I think I've ever had. So let me ask you first.

1:03 First of all, thank you for taking time to talk to me. And of course, full disclosure for the disclosure agenda. I'm the publisher. And in some ways, we kind of took a risk on this book because it has the potential of being controversial. There's a lot of weird stuff going on with UAPs and the government and nobody knows who to trust and Christian people think it doesn't really apply to them, but really there's a lot of spiritual stuff going on with all this extraterrestrial type of things that are happening. To jump on your statement, the gospel itself is controversial.

1:50 That's kind of a major point. that you tell people, everybody wants to hear about the love of God, but you start telling people that they're lost and what it's going to cost them if they don't trust the gospel. That is a divisive issue. And then obviously, when it comes to this subject, there's a whole lot of voices in the space, both Christian, non -Christian. The government is obviously discussing these things. The disclosure is here, you could say. I would actually, and I think people that I've worked with, we would argue that disclosure did not happen just now when they started, the DOW started releasing the files. It actually started back with age of disclosure on that documentary with the intelligence officials. Which I finally got around to watching just a few days ago. It's very eye -opening.

2:43 And that is key because here you have intelligence officials that are and Marco Rubio that are discussing this on there They do say hey this there are some of these things. This this is not from this world. So just given the Compartments and who those people are I would act I would argue that disclosure had already happened But now that the president and the government is releasing these things that obviously disclosure is here so there's a lot of talk regarding the subject of What is it? The government's just kind of releasing information. And in a sense, they're very much like, all right, guys, here you go. Make of it what you will. And that is why, in a sense, that this is so important for the church.

3:27 Because as the government releases this, there's a lot of questions, OK, well, they're not giving context. They're not stating what it is. So what is it? And that is where you see different voices within the space that are presenting answers, they're presenting information, they're giving, validating evidence as to why their explanation is correct. But when you look at what they're saying, it is counter to the text of Scripture. Now, not all. We do know that there are Christians within the space that have been speaking on this subject. But the big focus for me and what I really focused on in the book that kind of had been missed in a lot of ways is while people like Chuck Missler, Tom Horn, L .A. Marzulli, Timothy Aberrino, like, and a whole host of others.

4:12 Yeah, they've been speaking on the subject. But what me and a couple of buddies of mine in the space that we work in within the Intel community, in a sense you could say, with our platform, what we saw was that nobody had been addressing the belief system that was forming around it. And that is where I would say that what got missed in the hype of different things, what got missed is that there is a belief system that has been forming for a while in this space. It was very kind of in the background, it was fringe a little bit, it was on the edges, but especially now that the government has come out with these things, it's got serious legs. Mass people, like obviously Joe Rogan's talked about this stuff for a very long time. He's very mainstream. I know Sean Ryan has talked about these things. He's had guests on. And then you have American Alchemy with Jesse Michaels. And now it is mainstream.

5:05 And these beliefs, these teachings of these people, you could say, they are reaching a vast number of people. So because this has such reach, the question is, okay, well, what's the Church's answer? If these people are providing answers that while on the surface it may seem, oh, it's just, you know, you're just dealing with things from our galaxy, whatever. The practices, the methods of interaction, you look at all that and you're like, this is beyond just natural. This is supernatural. And there's a lot of things in here that the Bible already addresses. And everything, kind of when you take the whole of it, methods of contact, contact narratives, messaging, all surrounding it, look at methods of, types of interactions, all of these whole host of things.

5:57 you take all that, test it against the text, and you're saying, well, one, this actually isn't anything new. It's all here. It's very old. It's just kind of wrapped up in a different package. And two, by testing it against the text of Scripture, we can simply say, okay, that does not line up with the text of God. That is actually something that's forbidden. Well, I want to get into that, but... You know, it occurs to me that a lot of the people watching probably do not know your name. You know, you haven't really... In fact, in some ways, you're just starting to do media. Yeah. So, why don't you... You were a Green Beret, which is really impressive. But how in the world did you get involved with this whole thing with UAPs? So, I'll get the long short of it. I was a Green Beret. I was at Fifth Special Forces Group, ran a time at Special Warfare Center in school, working Special Forces Assessment and Selection as a cadre. Hopped over to SFPC doing the 18 x -rays the guys just coming in trying to go special forces that were not prior service Came back to fifth group took over as the a35 ops sergeant took my guys over to Syria and I had to run down to Jordan and When I was in Jordan just managing a couple things I was coming back to Syria Couldn't sleep wasn't sleeping a whole lot at that time walked into the chow hall at midnight chow to get some coffee Since I was awake This dude's sitting there saying, hey, can't sleep. I'm like, ah, I don't sleep. He's like, ah, me neither. Let's hang out. So hang out, build a relationship, stay in contact over

7:30 the next few years. And then back, I think it was, in 22, he was working some things. And he called me and said, hey, what are your thoughts on UAPs? So I gave him my viewpoint. Why do we find that? There are going to be a few people that know UFO, but they don't know UAP. UAPs is what? we would call UFOs now, what used to be called UFOs, unidentified aerial phenomenon, unidentified anomalous phenomenon. And then with that, you have what's called NHI, non -human intelligence. So instead of what we say alien, now that's the new term, NHI. So those are the defining terms with that. So when he called me, I had already done research into this back in 2012 to 2015. I did a three -year deep dive into eschatology. all the different viewpoints. And I kind of went down the rabbit hole of the whole UFO, alien stuff, because somebody had presented, it was Chuck Missler that had presented, oh, this is an end times deception. And I'm like, OK, maybe. But I'm going to go do my research.

8:32 So I was reading both secular, Christian, all the different viewpoints, all the explanations. Again, going back into the 1970s with the New Age movement. and people that were claiming to be in contact with these things. Again, just trying to take the whole of it and then go back to Scripture and say, okay, what is this? And so from that, I basically determined, hey, this is deceptive. It is not of God based on my testing of all that by the text. So when he called me in 22, I was like, hey, just based on my research, here's a quick 20 -minute rundown. This is why I believe this is ultimately not of God. It is deceptive. And he's like, well, I came to the same conclusion, but there's an opportunity for us to do some work within the intel community Helping some people out fill some gaps and then obviously there were some national security concerns because things were starting to get leaked and We're we do not like that's that's a huge deal.

9:29 Like if stuff's getting leaked that shouldn't be leaked like Render to Caesar what is Caesar's and to God the things that are gods and the problem is is there are things that we do and Have technologies whatever we don't want our enemies Having understanding of our capabilities like there's a lot that needs to be about our military. Yeah military Yeah, exactly our military enemies different compartments. It doesn't really matter on that end So we were not coming into this like oh, we want to find the the reality be whistleblowers No, we we cared about national security. We we like our country. We we live here. We like it here, right? There we believe that ultimately the God right? No authority exists except that which God has established, and you should submit to that authority. And so that's kind of the way we saw that we could honor those that are in authority over us, and we're patriots, right? We love our country. But at the same time, on that flip side, we saw the spiritual side of things. And so we're like, okay, God, what do you want us to do in this?

10:31 And so we started networking, and that's kind of developed into what I did for the last four years. Now, you would have had some preconceived ideas before you got involved with this. What changed and what do you think now about UAPs? If anything, I would say given my experiences within this space, it was solidified just due to the interactions I've had with people in this space, different levels within both the governmental and private sector community. I would say it solidified more like this is much this is incredibly deceptive. It is not of God. And that was, again, due to the people I interacted with and things that even myself and other people on our platform experienced. So from that, I would say I was solidified in the fact that, okay, this is not only, yeah, it is definitely not of God. You're dealing with satanic fallen angel stuff. Again, I'm not gonna get into the nuance of it, but all I can say is I would say it's of the enemy and not of God. Because again, just all this stuff within that we experience doesn't line up with the text and there's a the best way I can put it is when you get attacked and you start seeing serious spiritual warfare around your movements within the space and people that are taking and doing ancient practices and occult practices and this is how you make contact and Seeing people that are starting to manifest,

12:04 we would say, demonic possession or being attacked. There's a whole host of stories with this, I would say stories, but things that we experienced. So that's the long way of saying it solidified my view that this is not of God. It is a deception. And that is why it's so important for me to write this, because the Church just hasn't been ready for it. they've completely misunderstood what's actually going on. And even if they just give the basic label of, oh, it's demonic, the problem is, is that this is ultimately a gospel conversation. Because you can't just do the whitewash, it's demonic. Because that's not answering people's questions, right? In 1 Peter 3, all of you should be ready to give an answer to everyone who asks about the hope that is within you. And Jude, he says to put up a stiff fight for the faith once we're all delivered to the saints. go into conflict with people, but we do war, right? The weapons of warfare are not carnal, they're not fleshly, but mighty for pulling down strongholds and going against arguments that are counter to the text of Scripture and to the God of the Bible. And that is very much what we saw in this space with the things that we are experiencing.

13:18 Why this is so dangerous and why it applies to the gospel is because these are very, very real experiences. These are very, very real things. And I would say at this point, like, yeah, great. The government's admitting this stuff is real, but they're not giving context. And why it's so dangerous is because you have these people over here who are giving answers. They are providing context. They are providing methods of interaction. An example, I would say, would be Jesse Michael's podcast on American Alchemy. He did one about four weeks ago, speaking of Jake Barber's book. Well, Jake Barber, if you watch his interviews, he talks about this entity, this feminine entity, and the ecstasy he experienced interacting with it. Jesse Michaels discusses his book he discusses the entity and in that YouTube video which at now we checked it yesterday is at 900 ,000 views he walks you through Stephen Greer's contact protocol to reach out and Make contact with these things so now you've got almost a million people who are being led in how to contact non -human intelligence and Well, I want to get into that, but I also want to do it in the framework of your book. Yeah. Because, you know, as your publisher, I was interested in your book. I really didn't know where it was going to go. I knew that people were starting to talk about this. I heard or read that people like Steven Spielberg said that his movie was going to cause Christians to really doubt their faith. And I'm going like, you know,

14:50 somebody needs to speak up with it. But I felt that your book had kind of two parts. One is it was almost like an apologetic and went into all the things in the Bible that I knew, but I'd never looked at them from the way you did. So for example, the most obvious is probably Ezekiel's wheel within a wheel. But even Angel appearing to Mary or Elijah going up in a whirlwind and those kinds of stories, when you look at it, You know because some of this UAP stuff is they go through walls and they appear and then they disappear and but actually a lot of the angelic activity in the Bible or certainly the demonic and you explain it where it's like well You know because I always wonder how the world through all of time did this not exist and then suddenly in 1947 or 1948 it was everywhere, right?

15:55 And your book kind of explains that. And then you also go through these people. Stephen Greer is probably the main one. I barely knew who he was, but he's very influential. And he's developed, should I say, almost a religious type of fervor and belief system that taps into New Age and Hinduism and the Baha 'i. You know, I don't live in those kind of worlds. I just stay away from that kind of stuff. I believe the Bible, and I'm not interested in really. But when you look at this big picture, or I should say you did, I found the book very, very helpful to begin to put everything together. So let me ask you, why did you decide it was important to write the book? To your point on that, with Stephen Greer, that religious fervor, that religious guidance, and that's why I brought up American Alchemy. and him walking you through those steps to make contact. And then at the end, he gives almost a religious call to partake in it, and that, hey, this is a capability inherent to all of us. The reason I wrote the book is because guys like Stephen Greer, who do have a following and influence, Chris Bledsoe, Diana Pasulka, there are people providing religious answers.

17:13 I'd never heard of. Right. But they're very prominent, and they're very influential. So now the question is, what is the church's response? How do we have gospel conversations in a rapidly changing spiritual environment with this all involved in it? You know, we have people that we interact with that do Stephen Greer's protocols or Chris Bled's. Why don't you explain about that? So basically, Stephen Greer's protocol, he calls it CE5, Close Encounters of the Fifth Kind. And he defines that as human -initiated contact with non -human intelligence. He was given it when...

17:56 And his stage, you remember the five stages? Because... I don't remember. So basically, he says... Because each stage is different. Like, I think Co -occurring Encounters of the Fourth Kind is a person being taken up into a craft. Close Encounters of the Third Kind, I think. Again, don't quote me because I can't remember. But I know that each day is like one is they see a craft one is like there's an. stuff left behind like material or evidence or you know where there's like a field yeah and there's like a big circle right that you can see from the air yes that was like why did it happen right that would be considered one of the ce2 or something again i i don't fully remember doesn't help again i apologize i'm a bit fragment if i am fragmented i got hit by a truck on my bicycle and was unconscious for a little bit about four weeks ago so i'm still recovering from a concussion which is just the warfare around this, because that literally happened right after I submitted the transcript to you guys. So when we look at that CE5 protocol, basically he walks you through meditative steps.

18:59 You can actually download an app to guide you in it to be able to interact and basically call things down. He also has CE5 events where he will have people come out and they will go through this protocol together collectively. And then craft will show up. Entities will have pictures of this where entities will show up. People have claimed that there was a guy that was deaf. And on close encounters of the Fifth Kind documentary that came out a few years ago, he actually gives his testimony that after they did this protocol and this entity came in, that his hearing returned. He didn't have to have hearing aids anymore. He was healed. So the reason I wrote the book is I approached it, yes, I do tell and discuss interactions and spiritual things that happen to us in the process. I don't go into the nature of the intelligence community or our platform.

19:53 What I do is focus on things we've experienced, but then I approached the religious side that you're talking about, kind of like Mormonism. Back in the 70s, you remember Mormonism was just spreading like crazy across the US and the church. Well, actually, it's the 1800s. Yeah, you're right. But Walter Martin. Remember, Walter Martin stood up. He said, OK, guys, we're going to take this. We're going to take Joseph Smith. We're going to take Brigham Young. We're going to take the Mormon theology, and we're going to test that against the text. So what I tried to do was not get into all the crazy nuance, but hit enough that you get the overarching understanding of what's occurring, the belief system. And there's variations by different people you talk to, so you're kind of going to get a flavor for whatever you want. But taking those overarching narratives, messages, beliefs, and practices and testing them against the scripture, because it does matter.

20:51 This matters very much to the gospel and people's eternities because, you know, how as you as a Christian, this is now mainstream. These people are becoming very mainstream. you have somebody that's done one of these practices, interacted with something, seen something. You know, they're looking, you know, we live in very much a doom -scrolling Instagram generation where, well, it's an influencer speaking it. They are authoritative. So, and they have validating evidence, it seems. So, you know, that's the truth, right? And the problem is, is that in there, one of the things I point out And if you actually live in the space, what you find is that truth is being determined and validity is being determined by experience rather than the text. You know, Paul says to test all things, hold fast to that which is good.

21:44 In 1 John, he says, test the spirits, whether they be from God. And in all these people's writings that I address, not one person tests what's going on against the scripture. Now, Chris Bledsoe, he discusses it, like, but he discusses it of saying, Well, when I read the Bible, this stuff, all this is out there. They're not really believers, are they? Well, I am not going to... I would say, you know, what is a believer? It's one that professes faith in Jesus Christ, right? Dina Pasolka, she claims to be a born -to -be believer. When she was a child, she became Catholic. In her book, she states there is a truth, but she's open to what it is. I am not the arbiter or judge of souls. right? Do you confess Jesus Christ, come in the flesh? Do you trust in Him for salvation?

22:28 In fact, I'm going to be very careful on that question because I would say, if I had to look just from an objective, like, I wouldn't think so. But again, you know, Stephen Greer, you know, I would say no, simply from the fact that he's Baha 'i. He is, you know, given his beliefs. I would say no, he is not a biblically orthodox Christian. No, but he summons entities that Christians who believe in spiritual warfare would be called summoning demons. Yeah, absolutely. That's really what it is. You go right down and critique everything he believes and then you say that you love him, you're praying for him. Yeah. And I thought, you know, he's probably going to read this sometime.

23:11 And I just thought that was a great way to almost like send him a message. Well, that's my prayer, right? You know, I get his, that's hard for me. I love the guy. You know, he was an ER doctor. He got into this world. He He is being led by entities to do something that he truly believes is for the betterment of humanity. You know, he has good intentions, right? That doesn't, you know, just because maybe he gets something wrong or he's, and yes, would we say that he is an enemy of the gospel? Yes. But he's still, I still love him. He's a lost soul, you know, and that's really what this guy, does that not matter to us? You know, I guess that's the big thing is we're fat, dumb, and happy sitting in our churches. It's like being overseas. You sit on a FOB, right? A FOB is a forward operating base. And there's people that will deploy, sit on the FOB, and they have jobs to do, but they're not going out, they're not running missions, they're not doing things. You're in a supporting role. But you got salsa night, you got coffee time, you got the, you know, in Kandahar they had the boardwalk with the TGI Fridays. And so we're sitting there fat, dumb, and happy. while there's war going on around. And the problem is, is that we in the church, we are very, we call them phobets, like hobbits, right? A hole in the ground that's very, you know, it's comfortable and warm, good food. But we call them phobets, right? And it's just a term that we use. And very much the church in that way has become that.

24:39 We're fat, dumb and happy, sitting in our pews, getting our little feeding, and we're not actively engaging in the Great Commission. We're not doing what we were told to do. Give reasons for faith, preach the gospel, right? Make disciples of the nations. You know, we've relegated that to the people in the pulpit and the ministers. Ephesians 4 is very clear. No, their job is to equip the saints for the work of the ministry, that they are to go out and do the work of the ministry. And so, you know, with those questions regarding Greer and my viewpoint, like, I love these people.

25:19 Like, it's a soul. Christ died for them. Like, if He loved them enough to die for them, why would I have any, you know, angst against them? And knowing Him personally, seeing His heart, seeing the things that He has done, He truly is good intentions, and He is doing what He feels is the best for humanity. I can't fault the guy for that, but my concern, my big concern, me and a couple others within the platform, is first the church. The world is talking about this. People are giving answers. Okay, well, given Instagram, TikTok, YouTube culture, podcase space, I guarantee you people in your church are being exposed to this. Now the question is, again, I don't know people's bodies. I don't know the sheep that they're overseeing. I don't know how strong they are in the text. But I do know that on the last study, major study, only 6 % of Christians, like professing Christians, hold a biblical worldview based on seven core principles, which are just very basic. So we don't hold biblical worldviews.

26:27 We don't know the text. And so from that perspective, how am I going to test what people are saying? If they're providing evidence, we are a very experiential based people. So, oh, it feels good. It looks good. It looks real. Maybe, like I had a conversation with a buddy of mine. who's a chaplain and was discussing all these things with him, and he was very honest. I appreciated his humility. He said, if you hadn't had this conversation with me, and the government comes out and says, hey guys, aliens are real, it would have made me really question, okay, well, what about my faith? How does this line up with Bible? Like, what does this mean? And the reason that's important is because there's a lot of people that are presenting, again, they're presenting it in a couple different ways. One way within the space that they're presenting it is that the ancient cultures, the people of the Bible, well, this ultimately is this non -human intelligence source, but they were just presenting themselves within the cultural or religious context that those people understood, or this non -human intelligence They had a ufo uap non -human intelligence experience and the people just wrote about it and interpreted it within their religious cultural context So you have the church body? That's being exposed to this If you're not answering questions, I you know people are inquisitive by nature Usually almost no pastors would answer the rest. So so

27:58 most of them don't even know what's going on Right, and that's but that's why this is so so major and so dangerous and why it matters If you're not going to give answers, people will find answers. So if they're getting answers, they're counter to Scripture, will that cause them to walk away from the faith? In Encounters, Diana Pasolka in her book Encounters actually discusses that, where there were people that came from religious backgrounds and their experiences and research, it broke their faith. But now they're like, well, I have a greater understanding now of what this is. So they walked away from the faith. Some people do a syncretized version, which is like Chris Bledsoe, who's got this syncretized system that is ultimately very demonic. It is satanic in nature. When you look at the things he is doing, the book opens up with him practicing necromancy. You have all of this stuff, right?

28:51 So again, a different flavor for whatever you want. But for the church, my concern is that if you don't provide answers, to what's going on, or you're not addressing these people's answers, then people may walk away. The second thing is for the church itself in sharing the gospel. Like, the lost has to matter to us. Like, that has to start mattering to us again. And so now you've got a religious system that people are pursuing. That's why I throw that number out there. You're talking about the UAP. The UAP, yeah, yeah. So again, Jesse Michaels, you've got, again, just on YouTube. That's not including Apple Podcasts and Spotify. That's almost a million people that have been led into contact. That is almost a million souls. That doesn't matter to us. Like, how are you going to have that conversation with somebody that's done that? How will you share the gospel? Like, how are you going to defend the faith in that? Like, at some point, the lost has to matter to us, and Christ His sacrifice has to matter to us To where we say you gave everything for me now I'm willing to give everything for you. You love them enough to die for them You gave me the ministry of reconciliation My job is to sow seed and water and we've got to get serious about that and the greatest the most terrifying verse for me and The couple guys

30:25 on my platform when we were discussing this whole thing and I know ultimately when it started, was in Ezekiel, the prophet is told, if I say to the wicked man, you will die in your wicked ways and you do not warn him, I will require his blood of you. That is terrifying because God states through the prophet that he is going to hold the blood of the unsaved at the hands of the saved. if we do not warn them. So your book is really your way of warning people. Yeah. It is a hopes and prayer that, and a way of equipping, I pray, the church to have a greater understanding, not of the, yes of the phenomena you could say, because again, looking at the whole of everything, testing against the text of scripture, understand the belief system that has now formed and got serious legs moving out. How do I address it one for myself? People within my initial orbit and then how do I have those gospel conversations as this? Continues to to spread. Well, let me ask you something the first time I heard your name There was a brouhaha line about some kind of secret meeting that you had with some leaders That you are warning them about something. Are you able to elaborate on what really happened?

31:52 Yes, so there there was Again, part of the, aside from everything we were doing, which doesn't ultimately matter within this space, that's not what matters. One of the things that we had tried to do in the process was we saw this coming. We saw, we knew at some point, just because there was so much talk about it with congressional hearings and other stuff going on, like we knew at some point that since the government's talking about this, the official position will be disclosure. Like, hey guys, it's real. And so what we didn't, as we saw that space changing, we saw the amount the government was talking about this. What we did, and we were seeing this religious belief system, through that process, at times, we would try to make contact with pastors of all varying sorts. We've spoken to pastors from Catholicism, to SDAs, to Protestant, to hyper -charismatic, to very hardcore fundamentalist, cessationist, Calvinist. We've had these discussions with these pastors, and the goal was just to say, hey, look, guys, the government's talking about this. Here, look, Congress is talking about this. Look, we have whistleblower testimonies. Well, now that we can demonstrate to you the government's talking about this, Here is what is being said on the outside in response to that providing answers.

33:24 Are you aware of any of this? What's your answer? And that was really the gist of it. And so as we were earlier this year, God opened some doors. We'd already talked to a few over the years. And I ended up through a whole crazy God thing of connection. Ending up meeting Tony Merkel last year after I'd gotten back from Haiti to do a I pulled out a Missionary me and two other guys went down to pull a missionary couple out of a missionary couple out out of Haiti Was going there to just make connections for the organization I did that with and ended up making connections with Tony Merkel who I'd never heard of at that point we talked we discussed it was really good and He kind of lined up spiritually on that realm of things. I just said, hey, yeah, kind of what you're saying about this stuff is true from what he was telling me. Again, I'd never watched him.

34:21 And so earlier this year, as we saw how vibrant, you could say, the whole disclosure thing was becoming, especially with Age of Disclosure coming out in December and with Disclosure Day and then the congressional hearings, and we saw how again, just how vast this movement was on the belief side, we were like, we've really got to start working to make these connections. So we'd set up a meeting with local pastors, and Tony calls me out of nowhere and just says, hey, I don't know why I'm supposed to call you. So I was like, well, that's kind of crazy because we're just having this meeting with these pastors. So had one locally. And in that meeting, again, that's all we did. We had to tell them like look, we're not going to give you the doubts of the intelligence community We're not going to talk about this.

35:14 All we're saying is look have you are you aware of this? Are you aware of this congressional hearing? Are you aware of this documentary? Are you aware of this government official saying this? Okay, and the whole purpose of that was just to say look they're talking about it. All right. Now here's these people These are the answers they're giving What's your answer? So we did that then we hit the next week That's when Tony connected me within that meeting, and we wanted it quiet, because we were still working, right? And we just didn't want, there's a lot of that with just protection and just trying to be quiet about things while we are still working, because due to the nature of the things that we were doing, we didn't want to be out there.

35:57 I prefer even than this. This is not fun for me. But with that meeting, We did same thing. Hey guys, I'd never heard of any of them. I only had met one of them online on tik -tok at once But basically we did the same thing. Here's what the government saying guys Here's what the narratives and messages are which is that it kind of ties into New Age and yeah Exactly. Well all of those different things, right? Again, it's just these are what they're saying Here's the text is and almost yep some of these things. Yeah bring UAPs into your life to experience. Yeah, whatever exactly and you know in an earlier time We would have said that they were summoning demons and maybe yes They are well, and that's and that's where other people in the space would counter and saying then they don't like that They oh you there these they're not aware this like they're just saying it's demons. It's fallen angels they got to stop saying that because Like we have this and that, you know, we have evidence, like this is not demonic. And again, it's like, well, like some people I've heard online will say, well, you can't explain craft, you can't explain bodies. It's like, well, I mean, I'm gonna approach this from a strategic perspective, right? If I am working to deceive and I'm running a psychological operation, deceive a population, what do I need to validate my deception? Well, I would I mean

37:28 again, this is just me given the nature of all the interactions giving the whole test against the text Can you give me the limitations of a fallen angel? Why can't they create craft? Why couldn't they produce bodies somehow they were in according to Jude they were able to disrobe and leave their first estate their habitation and somehow breed with women as based in Genesis 6 Like, you can't give me the limitations of a fallen angel nor what their capabilities are. And so from that, I'm going to say, well, OK, if I'm, again, running a deception operation to influence, I'm going to present evidence.

38:11 I'm going to have people I maneuver and play to sow different narratives for people to pick up on and start believing. And now I've got physical validation. And again, just because something's real doesn't make it right or true. There are many things that are true, but they run completely counter to the text of scripture. So that's where in this process, I lost my train of thought with your question. Oh, but the meeting, that's where with all of that, we were just kind of like, hey, These are the answers. So there was a lot of hoopla about the meetings and I will clarify One person one of the guys that came out Perry Stone The meeting he was discussing was not our meeting. We found that out later I had a call from a seventh group guy who said hey, are you aware of this pastor said never heard of him?

39:10 That was the meeting that Perry Stone was talking about So there was a lot of confusion and we found out through different networks There was actually multiple meetings ran by multiple people around the same time that we had no knowledge of we had no clue who these people are and Based on the accounts of some of those people like there were people that were legitimate government officials Like showing badges and stuff like that. We're I'm unaware of those I don't know who those people are but that so that's where a lot of that confusion came from so Don't know what was said in those meetings. I can only state regarding this so yes, I am a retired Green Beret Yes, the legitimate thing is I was working in intelligence platform. However like it wasn't necessarily all the craziness that some people may have pushed it out as because that's not what we said we just simply Gave those three things. I've kind of stated Well as we wrap this up And there's so much more we could get into So much more in the book. I hope people will actually get the book Why don't you look at the camera and tell people that maybe? Barely know anything about UAPs or hearing about this or wanting to know what to understand What your book will give them and why they should read it so I'm going to caveat this by saying even if you don't get my book Know your Bible More than anything right If we know this, then anything

40:45 else, if we know the true and the word of God, then no matter what comes out, we can test it. If entities show up and they're saying, hey, we're aliens, test that. Who do you claim? Do you claim Jesus Christ, God come in the flesh, died, rose again the third day? Put everything, especially now in this space, to the text. to the test against the text. So my book, if you get it, great. If you don't, man, know your Bible, but my book is going to provide you a good grasp and understanding of what the major narratives are, what the belief system is teaching that is formed within this space, test it against the scripture so you will have a better understanding of where our nation and the world is going. and what kind of the stances of a vast part of the population who are following these people and being affected by them. That's what you'll get out of that book. Well, Paul, I want to thank you for taking time, and I would encourage people to get the book. It's called The Disclosure Agenda, A Green Beret's Warning to the Church About UFOs, Aliens, and Their Emerging Religion. And there's a lot in those few words, and the book Like I said, I've read it word for word. I learned a lot. It's a very interesting read. I hope the people will get it. So thank you for watching

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