(319) "Expect More Supernatural Experiences as You Grow in God" with Bruce and Reshma Allen

0:00 He heard there was an earthquake and all of a sudden these angels came and grabbed him and took him. And there was a fallen building and he's standing on, you know, it's at an angle. First responders and that said, get off of there. You know, it's dangerous. It's going to collapse. But he heard a child. And so he dug himself into there and found this child and brought this child out and handed him back to the first responders. And then the angels brought him home. Yeah. Wow. Yeah, we need to be first responders in that way. God promises in Joel 2 .28 to pour out of His Spirit on all humanity. Welcome to Global Outpouring. Are we content for that promised outpouring? We equip for that outpouring so that we may engage in that very outpouring. I'm Philip Buss. And I'm Sharon Buss. Welcome to the podcast today. We have with us as our guests today Bruce and Reshma Allen, who are coming in September 2026 to be with us and have their school. The School of the Supernatural Translation by Faith.

1:08 And it is amazing. This will be about their fifth time here, I think it is. And they come and they teach these wonderful things of God about the supernatural things that are supposed to be natural to us. So we're going to have a wonderful conversation about the great things that God is doing, the supernatural things that come as you grow in God. Thanks so much for joining us today. We are so excited about this episode. You're really going to enjoy it. It's really going to stir your heart with the things of God. But before we get started, we want to encourage you, if you haven't already done so, to go to our website, globaloutpouring .net, and make sure that you are on our mailing list, our email list. We have several to choose from. We can send you emails that way and stay in touch and bring you more than what you get just from this podcast. So if you're subscribed to our podcast, we hope you have. Wherever you listen to podcasts or wherever you watch podcasts, subscribe to this channel. encourage other people. Do you know anybody that's hungry? Share this with them.

2:16 Share this with them. If you're watching on YouTube or one of the other places where you can hit a like, it will help to build this up so that others will find it in their feed and they'll say, hmm, what's this? And click on it and start to enjoy the things that you are enjoying. And you can help us if the Lord is moving on your heart to do so. There's a donation link on our website that you can help us pay this forward, help us. to bring this to other people. This is a thing that we love to do to reach the nations and to build people up and to equip people for the things that are coming in the great outpouring of the Holy Spirit. It's not going to come only just as wonderful things. Some of it will be the best of times, and some of it will be the worst of times. But as we're equipped for it, we'll be ready, and God will pour out His Spirit in amazing ways, and we get to participate. Well, Bruce and Reshma Allen, it is our delight to have you with us again on the Global Outpouring Podcast. Thanks so much for joining us today.

3:18 Well, thank you so much for having us. It's always fun to hang out with you guys. Well, we like hanging out with you too. You're just so far away. Yeah, but we like having you as house guests. I think that's really amazing. When you come for the School of the Supernatural Translation by Faith, which how many times have we done this now? I think that's four or five. Maybe this will be the fifth one. And every time I get more. I know that the Lord gives you more downloads every time in between, but it's like I get more. I get more every time. Can you just give us an introduction as to what this school is so that our listeners and watchers, viewers, so that our listeners and viewers who aren't familiar with you will have an opportunity to understand what this school is all about? Sure, but I like your... slip of the tongue, listeners and doers.

4:09 That's perfect. But the Lord challenged us in the year 2000 about, can a man be translated or translocated by faith like Elijah, like Philip, like Enoch, and on and on. That was so far off my grid, I didn't even know where to begin. So over the course of the last 25, 26 years, As we've studied this, every time we teach, he's added extra, more, more, more, because it's line upon line and precept upon precept. And I think we've had, what, 39 schools? Our largest one was just last fall in Korea with 450 students that were desperately hungry for the things of God. The shift in that area alone is phenomenal.

4:57 But we've seen so many people's lives touched and affected having encounters with the Lord. actually having translocation experiences. But bottom line is falling in love with the Word of God and the God of the Word more. That's the bottom line. You know, in Christ, there's nothing that is impossible within the bounds of the Word. I want to keep it in that realm of truth. But it's been good for Reshma and I, but it's also a now word I firmly believe. And what we're seeing happening in the world now is exactly what he showed me. was going to be going on and why we're going to need this. We just found out about a week ago that 40, 50 ,000 flights have been canceled and routes are being canceled because of the cost of jet fuel has doubled. So people have been left stranded and it's getting more and more difficult. And if you do get a flight, it's more and more expensive. So we're in that season where this is becoming true to the vision and what God called us to teach for this hour. And he said that there would come a time when you would need to be able to translate because travel would be impossible. Isn't that about what was said? Oh, absolutely, yeah. We see that the Word of God is full of supernatural acts of God. God's people are going to be unstoppable. It doesn't matter what... what comes upon us on our nations and the seasons we go through. It's amazing.

6:24 He can use us anywhere he wants. And one of the ways that he chose in the scriptures we see was that people being translated, being taken, you know, natural disasters all over the world. And there is people needing help, different parts of the world that are in difficult situations. And we have always believed that there is going to be a group of people in this hour. The times and seasons we live in, God's secret service that they will just appear and take care of what needs to be taken care of. Nobody would know and then come back home. So in school, we have such a great time because we have a classroom and we have students that come and we are able to go into greater depth of what it really means.

7:12 all the supernatural acts of God, and one of them being transported. And students have a chance to ask questions. We participate, and it's just like... Practice and activate. Practice and activate, and it's on a very personal level. Classroom setting is always great. I've always liked that. In every school, we have new testimonies of things happening with people that are actually walking in this frequently. So it's powerful. Wonderful. That's tremendous. Reshma, when you were talking, it reminded me of the story that you tell of a dream that you had on a Saturday night. Can you tell us that story? Yes. I believe I've shared it before. But it's good to tell it again. Yes.

7:59 So we were ministering in a place in the United States. I think it was Wisconsin. And it was a Saturday night. I went to bed and I was having this very vivid, very real dream and seeing myself going up and down the coast of an Asian country and helping people, telling them, warning them, go to a higher ground because a huge wave is coming. And people were listening. Some were listening and going up. I was just helping them. And they knew something was happening in the atmosphere. All night long, it was so real. Like real as I can touch and see my husband right now. That real. All night long. And I got up, took a bathroom break, went back. back to bed and same thing happened again. And in the morning when I woke up and my husband was getting ready for church, we were going to go speak in a church.

8:51 And I said, honey, I need to turn the TV on. And he's like, Reshma, you know, we do not turn TVs on in the, you know, I said, no, in the hotel. But I'm not wanting to watch TV. There is something that has happened in the world that I just... like to see what's going on, if there's some kind of news. So I turned on the TV and tsunami in Japan had just happened. That big tsunami how many years ago now. And it just hit me so hard. And I'm like, I started telling him what happened last night. It was so real. Was I there? I believe with all of my heart, I was there. Absolutely. Yeah. So God can use us. We have to just make ourselves available, I believe.

9:34 Yes, yes. And lots of people are probably having dreams like that where it's so vivid and they just, wow, that was so real. I can't imagine what I dreamed. But, you know, I'm pretty sure they probably are really doing that, you know, when they have such a vivid dream and they're ministering in some way, meeting somebody's needs, helping somebody. It's the real thing. Yeah, more and more, you know, as I've walked this out, you always know when you have dreams. that are other than your normal life. Especially one of the big tales is how vivid the impression sticks. Most dreams you have at night, they fade away and you forget. So I found myself ministering different places, and I've actually had people come up in conferences and said, you know, you came and taught and did this and that and the other thing, and so it somewhat corroborates.

10:30 You know, I said, well, no, I was back home, but I leave the mystery to God. I just walk in the faith and say, okay, Lord, if that's you, wonderful. If it's not wonderful, I've earned. Amen. More and more, this is happening, not just to a select few, but to multitudes of people. Yeah. Yeah. And that's just one aspect of this translation we're talking about. And it's the simplest form. Why? Because you are removed. Your intellect is not. blocking or in the ascendant position where you can reason away. No, you're in that slumber state where God can take your spirit, man, and your soul and operate that way. Okay. So you mentioned other aspects. Tell us a little bit more what that means. Other than dreams. Yeah. Well, you have dreams. Some people have, like Mariah Woodworth -Edder, she would go into a trance. and would actually step into heaven. Her body's there. It's immobile. It's frozen. But her real man, the inner man, was there interacting with the heavenly realm. And that's one aspect, too. You're caught up into the third heaven where they're through vision, again, through dreams, or actually physically.

11:45 That's happened. Yeah. That's one thing. The other aspect would be geographic. Or the Lord specifically takes you somewhere to minister and then brings you back. So that's really the three areas at this point that we look at. But none of it is for boasting purposes. Right. It's not to build a ministry. And you will find those that made a big deal out of this lost their effectiveness and very soon fell away from even walking in it. It's not to be building you up or your ministry up or selling videos or tapes. It's to accomplish the purposes of God, period. Amen. Amen. Absolutely.

12:30 Well, that kind of brings me to address the book that you brought with you. It was new when you came here last September. In fact, maybe I'll just mention the dates of this upcoming school are September 7th through 12th, right here in our headquarters at Angletall Valley of Angels. And we have the registration form up on our website, globaloutpouring .org. You can go there to the events tab and you can sign up for that. There's all kinds of details there. But last time you came, you had just published a book called What's in a Name. And I've been reading the book and I like it. And I want to open the floor to you, Bruce, to give us a little bit of teaching out of that book about the different covenants and what it's like to walk in the character of the Lord. Well, that book came from a challenge by the Lord back in the year 2000 again. And he said, I want you to study one word this next year. And the word was name. At first, you know, he says one word, you think, oh, this is going to be light duty. I studied that for years. I still study because there's so much more to this.

13:40 And it was so other, excuse me, than anything I'd ever heard from anybody that it transformed my life. But in the Old Covenant, over 384 uses of the word name in every instance, but two, it spoke of character, honor, and authority. In the New Testament, 200 and some times. In every instance but one, it's character and authority. So if I just took out the word name and put in the significant meaning of that, it changes the whole dynamic of what you're reading and gives you greater insight. See, in Western culture, names are usually labels. They're a tag your parents liked the sound of, or maybe it had historic precedence in the family, but it identifies you in a crowd. Use it to fill in blanks on paperwork, you know. And that's what people call you. But it doesn't define you. You could change your name tomorrow and nothing essential about you would change. But in Hebrew, I mean, Hebrew disagrees so violently with this that if you understand that one word, it'll reshape everything we know.

14:52 And that's what happened. And that word in Hebrew is shem. It means name, but in Hebrew, a name is not a label. A name is a declaration of essence. True. And so it carries identity, authority, character, reputation, and destiny compressed into one spoken word. So when you know someone's shem in Hebrew thought, you don't just know what to call them. You know who they are. Yeah. And so we don't really have that concept in Western culture. That's why names in Scripture were not a casual thing. And you find, you know, even the angel said, you shall call his name because of the specific call and destiny upon that life.

15:47 Yes. It's interesting. Christians try and give a biblical name, which is okay. Still without understanding the import and the weight of what they're doing. We've lost sight of some of that. And I think that's why this is a personal opinion. This isn't a scriptural foundational thing. But I think that's why so many in the church are confused and lose their way. There's power in speaking forth the destiny, the essence, the character of an individual daily into their lives. Because it builds. Your spirit understands it. But if we just have, you know, here comes Yadu, Yadu, what does that do? You know what I'm saying?

16:29 It's different. So when the Lord Yahweh changed Abram's name to Abraham, he wasn't updating a file. He was rewriting a destiny. Yes. That's why each one of us has a new name written down in glory. We can sing that together. Because God. alone knows our destiny. And some will say, well, then if he's got a name for me, what's the worry down here? Because it helps to shape you in preparation for that destiny. And as we've studied through the scripture, as I did for this book, What's in a Name, I discover they could never fulfill the full purpose of their life and destiny without the change of character, the change of their name. To incorporate, Abram became Abraham, a derivative of God's name. So there's got to be a fusion together with the book of destiny and the king of destiny in order to fulfill your destiny. That's the essence of that. So it says, the third commandment, you shall not take the Shem of Yahweh, your Elohim, in vain. Okay, what does that mean? Well, the Hebrew word vain is Shav, which means emptiness.

17:45 falsehood, worthlessness. So the commandment is not about just the profanity as in emptying his name of his weight. It's treating the name that holds all of his character, authority, and covenant faithfulness as if it were lightweight, common, and disposable. There's no reverence. There's no awe. There's no understanding of the significance. That's why the Hebrews, the ancient Hebrews, because of their understanding, said, we're not even going to pronounce the name unless we do this. And that's why they buried it. Yeah. Because they, now I think they took it to an extreme. He gave his name to be used. And so religion will, of course, overkill. But that's the weight of what name means in Scripture. And we've lost that. And so, you know, we have a tendency in our cultures, and I'm guilty of this because I was brought up a family. We're always kicking around and joking. But we make up names for each other that are not necessarily good.

18:50 You know? Fortunately, my nickname was Lightfoot. That one was okay. Not bad. But, I mean, you know what I'm saying. So we're glib with our tongue, not recognizing the authority of the believer that's in us as we. spew this forth and we build a destiny in somebody. And so that's the essence of the book. So when you go to the new covenant, where two or more of you are gathered together in my character, my essence, the weight of who I am, there I am in the midst of that. But so often we come with that other mentality. It's a magic formula. We just speak it and it happens. That's not biblical. And that's, again, my own opinion. That's why I think as we walk longer with the Lord and He expects a greater level of maturity, we don't often see as many prayers answered because we are no longer children that need His help so much, but you're learning to walk on your own. You have to have basic biblical understanding and respect for the Word of God and the God of the Word. Wow. You also mention in that book about the different covenants. The blood covenant of servanthood, the salt covenant of friendship. Perfect. Sandal covenant. Sandal covenant. Sonship. Sonship. And then there's a bridal covenant. Right. Levels of intimacy.

20:21 Yes. So, again, in John 1, 12, it says, as many as have received him to them, he gives the right to become children of God. Whereas we were all taught the moment you're born again, you're a child of God. But that is not the biblical precedent. Once you're born again, you are born again. Now you are a servant. Entry level, blood covenant. Okay. And it's the only covenant that must be renewed every day. What? Well, for the believer in this dispensation, that means if I... Grieve Holy Spirit. If I sin, I can be quick to repent because the blood of Jesus covers a multitude of sins. So it's upon the priesthood in my heart to apply that blood. Yes. So it's the only one that's got to be renewed every day in it. When you enter into the second level of covenant, which is the salt covenant or friendship, it doesn't do away with servant. Right. I mean, even Jesus, the last thing he did at the Last Supper. He washed their feet as a servant, yet he was the prophet, priest, and king, and soon to be recognized as Messiah, but he still had the servant's heart. And so it's not done away with. And then it's just added to. So now you're servant, you have a measure of relationship, but a friend has a greater measure of relationship.

21:51 Jesus even said of his disciples, I no longer call you servants. But friends, why? Because everything the Father's telling me, I'm telling you. Yeah. That's huge. After that comes the sandal covenant, which speaks of sonship. And that's based on when they came into the promised land, those sandals that carried them through the world, Egypt's a type of the world, and finally brought them into the promised land. It was the boundaries of their inheritance as they entered in the promised land. That was their starting point. So what we do in this life establishes a boundary where we begin in the eternal realm and we grow from there. So if you get saved at the last minute, your boundary is pretty small.

22:40 That doesn't mean you're not saved, but that's your starting point. That's all. And now you progress. One thing I found really interesting is that archaeologists in Israel have found these... footprint or sandal print, huge, huge areas that are marking out significant places. And Gilgal was one of them, which was where they first came across and they renewed the covenants of circumcision there. I don't know how many there are, but I know there's more than two, or at least I know for sure there's two. And there might, there's probably more. haven't followed up on that. I just saw it some time ago, but I thought that was really interesting that this kind of really fits with the sandal covenant of your boundaries.

23:25 Yeah. And recognize too, it was those, the children that went into the promised land because the adults had murmured, complained, backed by wine, you know, their maturity did not allow them to enter into the fullness of the covenantal promise. Still servants. Yeah. Maybe friends. But no, Moses and Joshua, friends. And then the promise. So there's so many parallels we can look at. And then the final, of course, is the bridal. That's the greatest level of intimacy. Stogne speaks of the intimacy of a husband and wife.

24:07 So, and you know, the husband and wife finally get to the point they can look at each other and communicate. Because they've been together so long and they understand what each thinks. So that's the picture, four major covenants, that the Lord, once Adam and Eve fell, immediately initiated the blood covenant. He slew an animal, covered them, so that they could come back into this place of intimacy, bridal intimacy. That was his design. And so it's all about the name, the character, the name. Absolutely. Beautiful. Absolutely. It's so important that we don't just stop at getting born again. There's a whole lifelong discipleship and growing in, as you said, growing in relationship with the Lord. It's so significant.

24:57 I've had this discussion with people. I mean, years ago when I was in the military, I had friends in there that say, well, I got saved, I'm a Baptist, once saved, always saved, and they go out and live like the devil himself. That's not how that works. No, it's not. And yet I do know it's the grace and mercy of God that puts within us a desire to know Him more. Yes. And I know within those guys that I'm talking about that I remember that desire was there, but they kept ignoring it for the freewheeling life they thought they were having. And it was a deception they agreed to, not a calling and a longing that God had been placing in there. And so it's all based upon our response. The grace is there. He's calling to us. Will you respond? Revelations 19, verse 7 and 8. To her, it's been granted to become arrayed in fine linen, clean and bright. So each one of us, as we progress in God, It's an invitation.

26:04 Will you be my bride? If you're accepting that, then you're weaving a garment of fine linen, clean and bright, which is the righteous acts of the saints. It starts with servant, friend, son, bride. You've agreed to step into the process of becoming. And that takes righteous acts of faith. with humility, with, you know, all the above. So that's the important one. This whole idea of developing the character of Christ is, I think, so, I mean, we preach about it all the time. That's one of our main topics on this podcast, because our mandate, I feel, is to contend for the outpouring and equip for the outpouring.

26:55 So equipping for the outpouring. has to do with developing the character of Christ. You're not going to be able to carry the weight of what's coming in this outpouring of the Holy Spirit on all flesh if you don't have a measure of this maturity. working in your life. And it's going to be all hands on deck. And the newly born again are going to be helping people get born again. I know that's true. But somebody's got to help people grow up in the things of God. So that's kind of one of the reasons why we hammer on it so much is that. you know, Galatians 5, where it's talking about the fruit of the Spirit, that's describing what Jesus' character was like. And his character was like that because, remember, it was the Spirit of God that hovered over Mary, and she brought him forth from the seat of the woman, which was prophesied in the Garden of Eden when they were being dealt with after they had eaten the wrong food. So this idea of becoming like Jesus is a real thing that we should be pursuing. Yeah. The Spirit overshadowed Mary.

28:09 Yeah. The Spirit overshadowed each one of us at our new birth. Absolutely. With the potential to enter into the fullness of the knowledge of God. Amen. But Jesus, from the day one, submitted himself to tutors. He submitted himself to a process, even though at age 12, he knew far more than the learned men in Jerusalem. And his parents said, no, it's not time. And he came back and submitted himself until he was 30, at which point the father said, okay, now you're ready. We're never taught that. We're taught we're born again, and you've got an anointing, and you've got a gifting. Now, take the world. Yeah. Well, that will carry you so far until you crash and burn.

28:59 We're seeing it happen all around us. Yeah. What God is doing in your message, in our message, is calling forth mothers and fathers to help steward and help this final generation so that they go all the way and not part of the way. Amen. Pastor Tony, or we call him Bishop Tony, Apostle, whatever. And he says, call me anything but a prophet, because they stone the prophets. But his last teaching, he has just put out called the Capacity Code. Yeah, it was episode 306. Episode 306, where God is wanting to, you have to increase your capacity for all the giftings, and that's there. And that reminds me, years ago, when I was Sigi, that was born in Germany when the bombs were falling on Berlin, and she grew up under the Soviets. And when she got a hold of God, and she has an expression, she used, you need a bigger transformer, which is kind of the same thing, because you get a bigger transformer, you're able to handle more voltage, more power, and be able to handle what God gives you. And I thought that's a real good parallel. For what God wants to do through us and for us, but the ball's in our court, basically. Yes. People don't think of a day -by -day choice a lot of times as a relationship with Jesus because they've

30:31 never maybe experienced anything deeper, but it's just there. The more time that you spend there, the more you want to. But it's getting kind of like getting over that hurdle of putting the flesh aside enough to get a taste of what he really has for you. Amen. Yeah, in the last few years, it's hard for me to find language, a vocabulary to express a deeper work I know God's doing in me and a change of mind, mindset. And I know it's the grace of God. I'm not pointing at me like, look at me. I'm in awe and wonder, but I see things differently. I understand differently.

31:13 And I believe it's got to do with a process of maturity. And, you know, my only thought in that is, why couldn't we have done this when I was 18, Lord? But there's a time and a season for everything under the sun. And I'm looking at God's calling forth the Joshua's, the Caleb's, you know, the Miriam's. We've got to help this final generation. Yes, absolutely. I remember one of our mentors a number of years ago was saying, we want you to climb on our shoulders and go higher. And Bob Jones said to Sister Gwen, our founder, Sister Gwen, you have nothing to worry about. your ceiling will be your handmaidens' dancing floor. So it's all about every generation adding to what the previous generations have had, and each generation gets stronger and goes higher as long as they're on the right track, learning to grow up in God. If they don't get that, they're not going to add anything to their generation. Yeah. Not that I'm naive, but the Lord showed me that years ago. My ceiling should be their floor. So it's comforting to know that God's spoken that to many. Yes. That's the way it should be. Yeah, it is the way it should be.

32:36 And if you look at church history, that's the way it always has been. Not necessarily that the days of the book of Acts got better in the next generation. kind of waned somewhat. There's always been a Pentecostal outpouring in every generation, if you really look at church history. But like, for instance, in Europe in, what would it be, I think maybe around the 1500s or so when the Anabaptists got the vision that you should be baptized by immersion as Someone who knows what they're doing and not just as a baby being sprinkled. You know, sprinkling came in in the days of Constantine when all of a sudden he says, OK, we're all Christians. Everybody get baptized.

33:23 So they just sprinkled water because it was too many people to dunk. And so sprinkling became a thing. Right. So at some point, I don't know, it was 1400s or 1500s. But but at some point, the Anabaptists got the Anabaptist means. baptized again, I think, if I recall correctly, because they had been baptized as babies. You know, that was just how it was done. And somebody gets a revelation. And the previous generation tends to persecute the generation that gets a new revelation. And, you know, they had cases of being drowned in the river. because they were giving this doctrine of baptism. And so they said, okay, let's see how you like it. And they never came back up alive. So there was persecution. So everything that's being restored, like in the days of the Methodist movement in, what would that be? The 1700s, I think, in England. England was about to crash and burn, really. It was in bad, bad shape. But God began to move. And if you've seen the movie A Great Awakening, you see a little bit of what went on in Oxford with the Holy Club, with John Wesley and his brother Charles and George Whitefield, and there were others. And they began to understand being born again. John

34:56 Wesley talked about, my heart was strangely warmed. Suddenly he knew that he was saved, where up to that point in their doctrine, they didn't know that you could be saved. You just hoped that you would make it to heaven. And so they were teaching being born again. And, you know, just one thing after another is added generation after generation. There's more revelation. So, you know, the fact that God has brought translation back into your ministry to teach. I suppose you've probably had a little persecution. Just to leave it. Just to leave it. But, you know, you're bringing back something. Like, let me just go back even in our ministry. Sister Gwen Shaw, our founder, she brought back fasting and intercession. And hardly anybody was doing it when she came home from the mission field. In the early 1950s, she discovered that the churches that she went to were very proud of the fact that they had turned their prayer room into a stainless steel kitchen.

36:05 So she was really concerned about this, probably the 60s as well. And so she wrote this book, Pour Out Your Heart, about intercession. Did she write that first, that one? That was her first one, yeah. And then after that, she wrote about fasting, Your Appointment with God. And hardly anybody was talking about fasting in those days. And now it's pretty common. It's pretty common for you to find churches that at the beginning of the year, they declare a fast. It's not so uncommon. So God keeps adding and he keeps adding and he keeps adding because he wants to make it richer. He wants to make it better. You know, Dean Braxton talks about when he was in heaven, that he looked at the Father. And he would just get overwhelmed with the greatness and the glory and all the adjectives you can think of. And he'd look again and he was more so. That every moment he is increasing in his glory and increasing in his love for you. And every moment he's creating new love just for you. And, you know, it's revelation that is meant to change us and meant to make us grow closer to him. You know, starting in Acts. It exploded on the scene and then waned.

37:22 So unless a seed falls into the ground, it won't bring forth the harvest. That's why every generation has their own seed that comes forth from past generations in greater clarity, greater clarity, until the final day when it comes forth in fullness, the fullness of the knowledge of God. That's where all of this has been leading. And so anytime you receive insight and revelation from God that is forerunner in nature, there's going to be contending and contention, but there's going to bring forth a greater harvest of truth and Christ -likeness than the past generation. So we can't judge them. We have to have compassion.

38:11 And then determine in our hearts we're not going to stop the new thing God's going to do that goes after us. Right. And that's called parenting. Yes, Parenting 101. Absolutely. To step into. That's my favorite part of the Great Awakening was when he went into that first church. Oh, yeah. I think he throws the wig down and hypocrite. And I went, oh, yeah, come on, come on. Yeah. That was great. That was good. Wow. He didn't mince any words. No. And you got to watch. You can only imagine two also. That was, wow. I haven't seen that one yet. Wow. I don't think we saw the first one. Get your comics out if you do.

39:01 Okay. Okay. It's based on the song, It Is Well With My Soul, the story behind it. Oh, yes, Horatio Spafford. Wow, I didn't realize that that's what that was for. You know, I heard that there was a movie by that name. Yeah, the guy, one of the main guys in the movie, that song spoke to him and he shares how it came about because he was going through something. It's powerful, so powerful. Wow. That's awesome, yeah. We were out in the northeast and we went into, it was a Jonathan Edwards church, I believe it was. He's buried in the church underneath. And you're sitting there in this place and I'm looking at this piano that was up there. It's a square piano, totally square. It goes way back to the 1800s and kind of picturing. where Jonathan Edwards is sitting down there and George Whitefield is preaching, you know, up in the pulpit. And I remember him calling the fiery Whitefield, you know. And when we saw that movie, that really gave me an idea what that was like, you know. Right. Wow. Yeah.

40:10 I love revival. Yeah. Sister Gwen was a real revivalist, and I would get so stirred up by the Holy Ghost when she would preach about revival. Wow, wow, wow. Let me give you a sneak peek. Oh. Yeah. You know, Dr. Flo Ehlers. Oh, yes. Oh, yes. We just talked. Next book. I'm going to give it an advert here called Bulldog Faith. She asked me to read it. And man, oh, man, oh, man. It's good. It's good. It's very good. She sent it to us, too. You guys are rating it, too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Perfect. I mean, I love it. I just love it. Such a powerful. Powerful woman of God. Yeah, we had her on a podcast that just came out about three weeks ago, I think. Oh, good. She was telling some of her Bulldog Faith stories. Yeah, I learned a lot I hadn't known, which is power. I mean, just good stuff. What she went through. I know. Oh, what her husband went through, too. Yeah. So anybody out there listening, you need to look for that book to come out, Bulldog Faith by Dr. Flo Ehlers. Yeah, should be out, I'm thinking, in the summer. It's just gone for editing and that sort of thing.

41:19 Dr. Flo has been, wow, she's been a friend for a long, long time. And back to the subject of translation, she was the one who introduced us to the video that she made of Brother Grubbs decades ago. You want to tell some of his stories? The way she told us, when she finally heard me teach a little bit on this, She said, I think I got something for you. She went and dug out that old video. She said, I haven't done anything with this because it was way out there. So she gave me permission. We put it on DVD. This brother Grubbs, in 1951, he had a NDE, near -death experience.

42:03 So from that day on, that was 1950 actually, from that day on, two angels would come and pick him up. physically, and take him to different parts of the world to minister. And he starts sharing in that video his exploits about some of the things he did and where the angels took him. Sometimes it was in the body, sometimes it was not. And the witnesses, so many people witnessed and watched this. And Paul Harvey in 1951 even wrote about it in the New York Times about the man who appeared and disappeared of the UN building. One of his first journeys. Wow. He was a forerunner, but he made the mistake that anybody would. They're excited about what God's doing. And he shared it and they ostracized him, said, no, that's the devil. Stay away. At first in this interview with Dr. Flo, they're very kind of hesitant. But then they started getting into it. And it was a shame. I mean, he was, what, in his 70s by then? 1987? And he'd had a stroke in the past, so he's not quite as – so his wife was picking it up and his son was sharing some of the things. And, yeah, what a treasure that we ostracize because of ignorance.

43:23 Yeah. You know, we did a podcast with Hannah Werner not too long ago because she's one of our speakers at the convention. And some of the comments we got are just – From the shorts. On the shorts, you know, that we put out there just like – People can't go to heaven or this is witchcraft. Nobody's been there. Nobody, you know, I was astounded at the negativity that stirred up. I thought, wow, it's just like these people have no idea. Nobody can go to heaven, huh? What are we doing? And come back and talk about it. And come back and talk about it, you know. You mean like Jesus did? Yeah. Who said, by the way, the works I do, you can do, never mind. You can do greater, yeah. Yeah. Wow. I was just thinking.

44:07 Or like Paul did, or like. One of the testimonies that I remember from Brother Grubb's testimony that since we are talking about translation is when there was a fire. Was it in Alaska? No, the earthquake in Alaska in 64. And go ahead, if you remember. He heard there was an earthquake and all of a sudden these angels came and grabbed him and took him. And there was a fallen building and he's standing on, you know, it's at an angle. He's standing. Apparently, first responders in that said, get off of there. You know, it's dangerous. It's going to collapse. But he heard a child. And so he dug himself into there and found this child and brought this child out and handed him back to the first responders. And then the angels brought him home. Yeah. Wow. For one child. Yeah, we need to be first responders in that way. Wow.

45:01 Exactly. And I wonder what the destiny was for that child that he pulled out. You know, I think if this is broadcast and if we had this video up and more, it's on YouTube now because people, you know how people are. They take your video and boom. But I mean, who knows? It could be possible somebody would witness that and want to come forth with their testimony. That would be awesome. That would be amazing. Wouldn't that be something? Yeah. Wow. For someone to step up and say, I was that child. Yeah. We've had encounters with people in Europe and different places where we shared about a little bit on translation and they finally come up and said, oh, thank God, now I can share this because it's the truth and I won't be passed out. And even in America, that older lady in Southern California, the well -known pastor's church. They asked me to come and share on this, and he was very dubious.

45:57 And he says, can I ask you some questions? Don, he was grabbing the mic. And I knew, okay, he's looking for a battle here. The first thing he says, now, I don't know if you believe anything he said, but who in here has ever had an experience like this? And a couple of hands went off, and he went, what? I'm your pastor. You didn't tell me? Yeah. And so this woman came up. She was in her 70s. She had talked how years ago. She was in America. She was taken over to England into a hospital. She went into this hospital room and ministered to somebody, prayed for them. And that person was healed. And then she vanished and came back. And it was written up in the news over there. So he was just gobsmacked. He went, I said, next question. So, yeah, there were two or three people had had experiences. But see.

46:54 They didn't want to be ostracized. So I know there's more people out there walking in this than talk, which is okay, too, because this isn't to be, except for now God's releasing it. Yeah. I'm reminded also of we were in a GLOW meeting with Sister Gwen in Mountain Home, Arkansas. And afterwards, a lady comes up to her and says, thank you so much for coming to the hospital and praying for me. I was healed. And she said, I don't remember ever coming to Mountain Home to the hospital to pray for anybody. She said, when did that happen? And she told her the exact date. And Sister Gwen said, I was in the Philippines then. So she probably did it in her sleep or when she was praying or something. Or just praying in the spirit. Yeah, sure, sure. Yeah, we've had those experiences too. Yeah, one of my favorite stories that Sister Gwen used to tell, and she told all of these kind of translation stories.

47:55 So it's like I grew up spiritually on this kind of stuff. This is normal Christianity to me. When I first got Spirit -filled, I heard about somebody that was driving someplace and they got there hours before they should because God had translated them. So, you know, I was in my teens when I heard that. So this is normal. This is normal Christianity to me. We were going to this little Methodist church in Jasper where we were at. And one of my friends there, he was a mechanic. That's how we got to know him. And he had this little tiny Ford Escort, and he kind of drove kind of wild. And he's coming up our Highway 7 and comes up, and a truck is— Now, wait a minute. You've got to explain that Highway 7— He's coming up a mountain. He's coming up a mountain. One curve after another curve. So around every curve, there's another curve. Yeah, we call it Dramamine Drive, Highway 7, you know, because you're going to get motion sick on it.

48:50 And he's zipping up the mountain. And all of a sudden, a semi is coming jackknifed, you know, coming over, blocking his lane. And all of a sudden, he's on the other side of the semi. And I don't know how many people he told. He wasn't what you call a real deep Christian. But God had a purpose for doing that for his life. And I thought, oh, wow. Yeah, the Lord used him as an evangelist after that. He was used by the Lord in just one -on -one kind of evangelism. I remember our music group. They're from Lake Elsinore, California. They travel in a bus. And I think they were in a car this time or whatever they were in. Coming up to an intersection, all of a sudden, this truck just pulls right out or a car pulled right out. And all of a sudden, they're on the other side. And when she looks in the rearview mirror, the person is out of the car with their hands on their waist looking at them like, what happened? You should have nailed me. True. That's pretty awesome. It just reminded me, since you guys started sharing those testimonies, we were doing a school in South Africa some years ago, and there was a lady who came to the school, and that happened to her.

50:08 She was in the school for five days, but I don't know, it was day two or day three. That happened to her while she was coming to the school. She came and told us what had happened. There was no way she said she could have gone any direction. This truck was coming right at her, and next thing she knew, she was on the other side of it. God totally protected her. So, yeah, we have testimonies, piles of testimonies from around the world. We should collect some more of those. Yeah, it's not just the person. It's not just the person, too, but the vehicle they're driving. Right, right. Bag in baggage. Biblical. Jesus stepped into the boat and instantly was at the shore. True. Was at shore, yeah. Absolutely.

50:51 Absolutely. So that story I was about to tell was that there was this lady in California named Confidence Cloats. I don't know how long ago, but Sister Gwen used to tell this story about how this lady would be dreaming. I mean, she'd go to sleep. And in her dreams, the angel would come and take her someplace to minister. And she would go and minister. The angel would bring her back and she'd wake up. So one day she's on her way. And I don't remember where she went, but I have it in the way I remember the story. I don't know if it's the right place or not, but I think she was in the Philippines. And she preached the gospel and, you know, God did signs and wonders and all the things that he does.

51:38 And the angel is bringing her back as the sun is coming up. And she says, oh, they're seeing the coastline of California. She says, oh, angel, would you take me down? I'd love to grab a handful of sand. So the angel dips down and she grabs a handful of sand. And the next thing she's hearing is, Sister Confidence, Sister Confidence, wake up, wake up. Are you OK? You're sleeping so late today. And it was her coworker. And so she says, oh, come in, dear. I was just having the most wonderful dream about the angel taking me to the Philippines. And I ministered. And on the way back, I asked for the angel to take me down and let me get a handful of, and she had a handful of sand. Perfect. So, you know, it's real. It's absolutely real. That's a handy testimony. What about that brother that had the mud on his boots?

52:37 Yes, yes. Was that Mozambique one? No, there was a brother that he worked in the oil fields in, I suppose, Texas, someplace in that region in the States, you know, Texas or Oklahoma someplace. And he had just gotten himself ready for bed and he'd laid out his clothes for the next day and he had just cleaned his boots and he went to bed. And he's dreaming that he's in Uganda and he's drilling a water well for this village. And he comes back in his dream. He comes back. He wakes up in the morning and he has mud on his boots, red mud. So he had access to one of these guys that can analyze the soils. And he gives him a sample of the mud. He says, tell me where this is from. And so he comes back later.

53:32 The guy says, hey, there's only one place in the world that has this exact kind of mud, and it's Uganda. What a coincidence. Yeah. Yeah. Quite amazing. So this type of thing should be expected. Yes. And become a normal Christian experience in this hour. Absolutely. Absolutely. Even better when you have the understanding of the scripture of why this is so. But yeah. That's important. This is powerful. Exciting times. Amen. Amen. And about to get more exciting. Yes, that's right. We're supposed to be going to South Africa again in October. So I spent floating in my heart, okay, Lord, how are we getting there this time? Whichever way he wants to do it, if it's long hours on an airplane or instantly, but we're right on top of this. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely.

54:30 That reminds me of Pat Holleran was one of these guys that had these translation experiences pretty often. And he and his wife were scheduled to fly to Germany on a certain day. And like the day before or maybe two days before they were scheduled to fly, he's in prayer and he finds himself in Germany and he's talking with the people there in Germany. They see him, they're talking together. And so he was in a dilemma. Do I just stay here and let my wife bring the luggage or do I go back and get it and fly with her? I think he did come back and do the normal thing. I mean, normal as far as the world goes.

55:14 The typical airline. Because otherwise, how would he have a stamp in his passport, right? Yeah. You know, I've often pondered, you know, okay, I go over there, I'm on video, they see me, and then I'm back home, and I say, how'd you do that? Yeah. Just tell them. Yeah, funny you should mention. Exactly, exactly. Well, I just love what God is doing, and we can look for that to increase and increase and increase. And I just want to say thank you, Bruce, for bringing this to the body, that the Holy Spirit challenged you, and you stood up to the challenge, and you studied it, and you learned it, and you've practiced walking with the Lord to receive more and more revelation to be able to teach it. So I just want to say thank you on behalf of the body of Christ for having persevered in this, because it's not easy. And, you know, you kind of tossed it off about persecution, but I'm sure you've had plenty. So do you have any final thoughts to share? I think we need to stretch our faith.

56:24 Reshma and I have talked about this many times, doing this together frequently. You know, you start out, how do I? instead of how do we? And the pattern that Jesus had is, like I said, he stepped in the boat, they all went at once. Yes. I think we're in that season. We're going to need that for quite a few things. Bringing people out of difficult situations, taking people in to help in situations. So expand the tent pegs. Amen. It's time to believe largely instead of focus on your own little Amen. Amen. That's a good word. Reshma, would you close in prayer for us? Yes, I would. Lord, we thank you for this time that you gave us, Lord, to get together and just feast on your word and talk about. the great things that you are doing among us, Lord.

57:22 In the hour, the seasons that we live in, Father, I pray that you will open our eyes in a greater measure, our ears and our heart to comprehend the truth of your word. And Lord, also protect us from deception, that you will give us a spirit of discernment in this hour, Lord God. I thank you. And Lord, we pray for all those who are listening, that, Lord, you will bless them, you will lead them and guide them in this hour, Lord, those who are making decisions. to come, Lord God, that you will make a way for them to be able to come to this school, Lord God. What a great week, Lord, we have with you. And prepare their hearts, Lord. And bless Cheryl, Lord God, and Philip, Lord God, for their ministry and opening up their home and opening up their lives, Lord God, to make this happen, Lord. And we just speak your blessing and we thank you for this time. Lord, lead us and guide us all by your Holy Spirit. In Jesus' name. Amen. Amen. And I just want to remind everyone that, you know, I mentioned one book that Dr. Bruce has written.

58:29 But how many books have you written now? You've got quite a few. Six, seven, eight, something like that. Okay. And then Reshma, you've just written a new book. You teach discernment in this class. Give us a quick overview. Okay, so I finished a book on discernment that I've been working on for a long time. And God laid that message in my heart, the times and season we live in. There is so much deception in the church and outside of the church and people of God being able to discern. So in this book, what God had...

59:10 given me on discernment and also life stories, testimonies of what we have experienced concerning discernment and how God helped us and different testimonies. It's pretty amazing. So I am really excited about it, what God is doing with it. I will bring some with me to the school. And I believe with all of my heart that it is such an important message right now, being able to discern. And we have been talking about supernatural things of God. And we teach very strongly what God has laid in the Word of God about being able to discern and discern right and wrong, good and evil, false prophets, false teachers, false visions, false... angels that visit and also from his kingdom. We got to be able to tell the difference. And I believe it's very important because our world is full of supernatural stories and the church is full of it. And I believe...

1:00:10 Church is full. Well, we see it everywhere. People, you know, having visions, dreams, seeing, going and all that. And are we able to tell if it is from God or not? So that's basically what the book is about. Beautiful. That's great. So how do people get your books? They can get it through our ministry and also on Amazon. Okay. And what's your website? Stillwatersinternationalmissions .com. And also I think so Barnes & Noble are going to carry it. On 23rd, actually, in my local area, Barnes & Noble is having a book signing with me. Congratulations. That's great. Wonderful.

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