(319) "Expect More Supernatural Experiences as You Grow in God" with Bruce and Reshma Allen


Have you ever had a dream of ministering to someone, somewhere, and it was so vivid that you felt like you were really there? Well, maybe you were!
When the Holy Spirit asked Bruce Allen years ago, “Can a man be translated by faith,” they embarked on a journey together that changed his life forever and led to the founding of The School of the Supernatural—Translation by Faith. Since then, Bruce and Reshma have taught these schools of the supernatural all over the world. They encourage Believers to grow in their relationship with Jesus, in their discernment, and in their knowledge of the Word of God first. Then they equip and activate so Believers can co-operate with the Holy Spirit in supernatural ways with a Scriptural foundation to accomplish the purposes of God in these last days. They join the Busses to share deep insight, fresh revelation, and lots of testimonies of experiences they’ve had with God, as well as similar testimonies from many other people!
This naturally supernatural life is available to you too! Global Outpouring will be hosting The School of the Supernatural—Translation by Faith, September 7-12, 2026. Join us to be equipped and activated to freely and confidently move with the Holy Spirit in whatever way He leads, knowing you have a firm Scriptural foundation to operate from. You won’t want to miss this event!
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He heard there was an earthquake and all of a
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sudden these angels came and grabbed him and
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took him. And there was a fallen building and
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he's standing on, you know, it's at an angle.
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First responders and that said, get off of there.
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You know, it's dangerous. It's going to collapse.
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But he heard a child. And so he dug himself into
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there and found this child and brought this child
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out and handed him back to the first responders.
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And then the angels brought him home. Yeah. Wow.
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Yeah, we need to be first responders in that
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way. God promises in Joel 2 .28 to pour out of
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His Spirit on all humanity. Welcome to Global
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Outpouring. Are we content for that promised
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outpouring? We equip for that outpouring so that
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we may engage in that very outpouring. I'm Philip
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Buss. And I'm Sharon Buss. Welcome to the podcast
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today. We have with us as our guests today Bruce
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and Reshma Allen, who are coming in September
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2026 to be with us and have their school. The
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School of the Supernatural Translation by Faith.
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And it is amazing. This will be about their fifth
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time here, I think it is. And they come and they
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teach these wonderful things of God about the
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supernatural things that are supposed to be natural
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to us. So we're going to have a wonderful conversation
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about the great things that God is doing, the
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supernatural things that come as you grow in
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God. Thanks so much for joining us today. We
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are so excited about this episode. You're really
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is a thing that we love to do to reach the nations
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and to build people up and to equip people for
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the things that are coming in the great outpouring
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of the Holy Spirit. It's not going to come only
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just as wonderful things. Some of it will be
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the best of times, and some of it will be the
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worst of times. But as we're equipped for it,
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we'll be ready, and God will pour out His Spirit
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in amazing ways, and we get to participate. Well,
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Bruce and Reshma Allen, it is our delight to
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have you with us again on the Global Outpouring
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Podcast. Thanks so much for joining us today.
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Well, thank you so much for having us. It's always
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fun to hang out with you guys. Well, we like
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hanging out with you too. You're just so far
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away. Yeah, but we like having you as house guests.
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I think that's really amazing. When you come
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for the School of the Supernatural Translation
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by Faith, which how many times have we done this
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now? I think that's four or five. Maybe this
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will be the fifth one. And every time I get more.
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I know that the Lord gives you more downloads
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every time in between, but it's like I get more.
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I get more every time. Can you just give us an
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introduction as to what this school is so that
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our listeners and watchers, viewers, so that
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our listeners and viewers who aren't familiar
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with you will have an opportunity to understand
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what this school is all about? Sure, but I like
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your... slip of the tongue, listeners and doers.
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That's perfect. But the Lord challenged us in
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the year 2000 about, can a man be translated
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or translocated by faith like Elijah, like Philip,
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like Enoch, and on and on. That was so far off
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my grid, I didn't even know where to begin. So
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over the course of the last 25, 26 years, As
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we've studied this, every time we teach, he's
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added extra, more, more, more, because it's line
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upon line and precept upon precept. And I think
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we've had, what, 39 schools? Our largest one
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was just last fall in Korea with 450 students
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that were desperately hungry for the things of
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God. The shift in that area alone is phenomenal.
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But we've seen so many people's lives touched
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and affected having encounters with the Lord.
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actually having translocation experiences. But
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bottom line is falling in love with the Word
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of God and the God of the Word more. That's the
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bottom line. You know, in Christ, there's nothing
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that is impossible within the bounds of the Word.
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I want to keep it in that realm of truth. But
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it's been good for Reshma and I, but it's also
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a now word I firmly believe. And what we're seeing
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happening in the world now is exactly what he
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showed me. was going to be going on and why we're
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going to need this. We just found out about a
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week ago that 40, 50 ,000 flights have been canceled
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and routes are being canceled because of the
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cost of jet fuel has doubled. So people have
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been left stranded and it's getting more and
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more difficult. And if you do get a flight, it's
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more and more expensive. So we're in that season
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where this is becoming true to the vision and
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what God called us to teach for this hour. And
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he said that there would come a time when you
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would need to be able to translate because travel
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would be impossible. Isn't that about what was
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said? Oh, absolutely, yeah. We see that the Word
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of God is full of supernatural acts of God. God's
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people are going to be unstoppable. It doesn't
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matter what... what comes upon us on our nations
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and the seasons we go through. It's amazing.
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He can use us anywhere he wants. And one of the
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ways that he chose in the scriptures we see was
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that people being translated, being taken, you
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know, natural disasters all over the world. And
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there is people needing help, different parts
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of the world that are in difficult situations.
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And we have always believed that there is going
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to be a group of people in this hour. The times
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and seasons we live in, God's secret service
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that they will just appear and take care of what
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needs to be taken care of. Nobody would know
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and then come back home. So in school, we have
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such a great time because we have a classroom
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and we have students that come and we are able
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to go into greater depth of what it really means.
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all the supernatural acts of God, and one of
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them being transported. And students have a chance
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to ask questions. We participate, and it's just
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like... Practice and activate. Practice and activate,
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and it's on a very personal level. Classroom
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setting is always great. I've always liked that.
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In every school, we have new testimonies of things
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happening with people that are actually walking
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in this frequently. So it's powerful. Wonderful.
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That's tremendous. Reshma, when you were talking,
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it reminded me of the story that you tell of
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a dream that you had on a Saturday night. Can
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you tell us that story? Yes. I believe I've shared
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it before. But it's good to tell it again. Yes.
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So we were ministering in a place in the United
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States. I think it was Wisconsin. And it was
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a Saturday night. I went to bed and I was having
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this very vivid, very real dream and seeing myself
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going up and down the coast of an Asian country
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and helping people, telling them, warning them,
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go to a higher ground because a huge wave is
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coming. And people were listening. Some were
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listening and going up. I was just helping them.
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And they knew something was happening in the
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atmosphere. All night long, it was so real. Like
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real as I can touch and see my husband right
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now. That real. All night long. And I got up,
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took a bathroom break, went back. back to bed
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and same thing happened again. And in the morning
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when I woke up and my husband was getting ready
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for church, we were going to go speak in a church.
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And I said, honey, I need to turn the TV on.
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And he's like, Reshma, you know, we do not turn
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TVs on in the, you know, I said, no, in the hotel.
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But I'm not wanting to watch TV. There is something
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that has happened in the world that I just...
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like to see what's going on, if there's some
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kind of news. So I turned on the TV and tsunami
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in Japan had just happened. That big tsunami
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how many years ago now. And it just hit me so
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hard. And I'm like, I started telling him what
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happened last night. It was so real. Was I there?
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I believe with all of my heart, I was there.
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Absolutely. Yeah. So God can use us. We have
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to just make ourselves available, I believe.
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Yes, yes. And lots of people are probably having
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dreams like that where it's so vivid and they
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just, wow, that was so real. I can't imagine
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what I dreamed. But, you know, I'm pretty sure
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they probably are really doing that, you know,
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when they have such a vivid dream and they're
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ministering in some way, meeting somebody's needs,
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helping somebody. It's the real thing. Yeah,
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more and more, you know, as I've walked this
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out, you always know when you have dreams. that
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are other than your normal life. Especially one
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of the big tales is how vivid the impression
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sticks. Most dreams you have at night, they fade
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away and you forget. So I found myself ministering
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different places, and I've actually had people
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come up in conferences and said, you know, you
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came and taught and did this and that and the
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other thing, and so it somewhat corroborates.
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You know, I said, well, no, I was back home,
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but I leave the mystery to God. I just walk in
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the faith and say, okay, Lord, if that's you,
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wonderful. If it's not wonderful, I've earned.
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Amen. More and more, this is happening, not just
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to a select few, but to multitudes of people.
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Yeah. Yeah. And that's just one aspect of this
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translation we're talking about. And it's the
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simplest form. Why? Because you are removed.
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Your intellect is not. blocking or in the ascendant
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position where you can reason away. No, you're
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in that slumber state where God can take your
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spirit, man, and your soul and operate that way.
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Okay. So you mentioned other aspects. Tell us
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a little bit more what that means. Other than
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dreams. Yeah. Well, you have dreams. Some people
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have, like Mariah Woodworth -Edder, she would
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go into a trance. and would actually step into
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heaven. Her body's there. It's immobile. It's
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frozen. But her real man, the inner man, was
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there interacting with the heavenly realm. And
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that's one aspect, too. You're caught up into
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the third heaven where they're through vision,
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again, through dreams, or actually physically.
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That's happened. Yeah. That's one thing. The
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other aspect would be geographic. Or the Lord
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specifically takes you somewhere to minister
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and then brings you back. So that's really the
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three areas at this point that we look at. But
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none of it is for boasting purposes. Right. It's
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not to build a ministry. And you will find those
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that made a big deal out of this lost their effectiveness
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and very soon fell away from even walking in
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it. It's not to be building you up or your ministry
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up or selling videos or tapes. It's to accomplish
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the purposes of God, period. Amen. Amen. Absolutely.
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Well, that kind of brings me to address the book
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that you brought with you. It was new when you
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came here last September. In fact, maybe I'll
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just mention the dates of this upcoming school
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are September 7th through 12th, right here in
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our headquarters at Angletall Valley of Angels.
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And we have the registration form up on our website,
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globaloutpouring .org. You can go there to the
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events tab and you can sign up for that. There's
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all kinds of details there. But last time you
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came, you had just published a book called What's
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in a Name. And I've been reading the book and
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I like it. And I want to open the floor to you,
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Bruce, to give us a little bit of teaching out
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of that book about the different covenants and
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what it's like to walk in the character of the
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Lord. Well, that book came from a challenge by
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the Lord back in the year 2000 again. And he
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said, I want you to study one word this next
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year. And the word was name. At first, you know,
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he says one word, you think, oh, this is going
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to be light duty. I studied that for years. I
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still study because there's so much more to this.
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And it was so other, excuse me, than anything
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I'd ever heard from anybody that it transformed
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my life. But in the Old Covenant, over 384 uses
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of the word name in every instance, but two,
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it spoke of character, honor, and authority.
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In the New Testament, 200 and some times. In
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every instance but one, it's character and authority.
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So if I just took out the word name and put in
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the significant meaning of that, it changes the
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whole dynamic of what you're reading and gives
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you greater insight. See, in Western culture,
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names are usually labels. They're a tag your
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parents liked the sound of, or maybe it had historic
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precedence in the family, but it identifies you
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in a crowd. Use it to fill in blanks on paperwork,
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you know. And that's what people call you. But
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it doesn't define you. You could change your
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name tomorrow and nothing essential about you
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would change. But in Hebrew, I mean, Hebrew disagrees
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so violently with this that if you understand
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that one word, it'll reshape everything we know.
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And that's what happened. And that word in Hebrew
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is shem. It means name, but in Hebrew, a name
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is not a label. A name is a declaration of essence.
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True. And so it carries identity, authority,
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character, reputation, and destiny compressed
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into one spoken word. So when you know someone's
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shem in Hebrew thought, you don't just know what
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to call them. You know who they are. Yeah. And
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so we don't really have that concept in Western
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culture. That's why names in Scripture were not
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a casual thing. And you find, you know, even
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the angel said, you shall call his name because
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of the specific call and destiny upon that life.
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Yes. It's interesting. Christians try and give
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a biblical name, which is okay. Still without
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understanding the import and the weight of what
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they're doing. We've lost sight of some of that.
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And I think that's why this is a personal opinion.
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This isn't a scriptural foundational thing. But
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I think that's why so many in the church are
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confused and lose their way. There's power in
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speaking forth the destiny, the essence, the
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character of an individual daily into their lives.
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Because it builds. Your spirit understands it.
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But if we just have, you know, here comes Yadu,
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Yadu, what does that do? You know what I'm saying?
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It's different. So when the Lord Yahweh changed
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Abram's name to Abraham, he wasn't updating a
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file. He was rewriting a destiny. Yes. That's
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why each one of us has a new name written down
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in glory. We can sing that together. Because
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God. alone knows our destiny. And some will say,
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well, then if he's got a name for me, what's
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the worry down here? Because it helps to shape
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you in preparation for that destiny. And as we've
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studied through the scripture, as I did for this
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book, What's in a Name, I discover they could
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never fulfill the full purpose of their life
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and destiny without the change of character,
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the change of their name. To incorporate, Abram
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became Abraham, a derivative of God's name. So
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there's got to be a fusion together with the
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book of destiny and the king of destiny in order
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to fulfill your destiny. That's the essence of
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that. So it says, the third commandment, you
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shall not take the Shem of Yahweh, your Elohim,
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in vain. Okay, what does that mean? Well, the
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Hebrew word vain is Shav, which means emptiness.
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falsehood, worthlessness. So the commandment
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is not about just the profanity as in emptying
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his name of his weight. It's treating the name
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that holds all of his character, authority, and
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covenant faithfulness as if it were lightweight,
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common, and disposable. There's no reverence.
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There's no awe. There's no understanding of the
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significance. That's why the Hebrews, the ancient
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Hebrews, because of their understanding, said,
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we're not even going to pronounce the name unless
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we do this. And that's why they buried it. Yeah.
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Because they, now I think they took it to an
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extreme. He gave his name to be used. And so
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religion will, of course, overkill. But that's
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the weight of what name means in Scripture. And
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we've lost that. And so, you know, we have a
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tendency in our cultures, and I'm guilty of this
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because I was brought up a family. We're always
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kicking around and joking. But we make up names
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for each other that are not necessarily good.
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You know? Fortunately, my nickname was Lightfoot.
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That one was okay. Not bad. But, I mean, you
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know what I'm saying. So we're glib with our
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tongue, not recognizing the authority of the
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believer that's in us as we. spew this forth
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and we build a destiny in somebody. And so that's
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the essence of the book. So when you go to the
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new covenant, where two or more of you are gathered
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together in my character, my essence, the weight
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of who I am, there I am in the midst of that.
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But so often we come with that other mentality.
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It's a magic formula. We just speak it and it
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happens. That's not biblical. And that's, again,
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my own opinion. That's why I think as we walk
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longer with the Lord and He expects a greater
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level of maturity, we don't often see as many
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prayers answered because we are no longer children
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that need His help so much, but you're learning
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to walk on your own. You have to have basic biblical
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understanding and respect for the Word of God
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and the God of the Word. Wow. You also mention
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in that book about the different covenants. The
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blood covenant of servanthood, the salt covenant
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of friendship. Perfect. Sandal covenant. Sandal
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covenant. Sonship. Sonship. And then there's
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a bridal covenant. Right. Levels of intimacy.
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Yes. So, again, in John 1, 12, it says, as many
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as have received him to them, he gives the right
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to become children of God. Whereas we were all
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taught the moment you're born again, you're a
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child of God. But that is not the biblical precedent.
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Once you're born again, you are born again. Now
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you are a servant. Entry level, blood covenant.
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Okay. And it's the only covenant that must be
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renewed every day. What? Well, for the believer
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in this dispensation, that means if I... Grieve
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Holy Spirit. If I sin, I can be quick to repent
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because the blood of Jesus covers a multitude
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of sins. So it's upon the priesthood in my heart
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to apply that blood. Yes. So it's the only one
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that's got to be renewed every day in it. When
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you enter into the second level of covenant,
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which is the salt covenant or friendship, it
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doesn't do away with servant. Right. I mean,
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even Jesus, the last thing he did at the Last
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Supper. He washed their feet as a servant, yet
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he was the prophet, priest, and king, and soon
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to be recognized as Messiah, but he still had
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the servant's heart. And so it's not done away
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with. And then it's just added to. So now you're
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servant, you have a measure of relationship,
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but a friend has a greater measure of relationship.
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Jesus even said of his disciples, I no longer
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call you servants. But friends, why? Because
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everything the Father's telling me, I'm telling
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you. Yeah. That's huge. After that comes the
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sandal covenant, which speaks of sonship. And
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that's based on when they came into the promised
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land, those sandals that carried them through
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the world, Egypt's a type of the world, and finally
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brought them into the promised land. It was the
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boundaries of their inheritance as they entered
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in the promised land. That was their starting
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point. So what we do in this life establishes
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a boundary where we begin in the eternal realm
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and we grow from there. So if you get saved at
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the last minute, your boundary is pretty small.
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That doesn't mean you're not saved, but that's
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your starting point. That's all. And now you
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progress. One thing I found really interesting
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is that archaeologists in Israel have found these...
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footprint or sandal print, huge, huge areas that
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are marking out significant places. And Gilgal
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was one of them, which was where they first came
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across and they renewed the covenants of circumcision
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there. I don't know how many there are, but I
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know there's more than two, or at least I know
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for sure there's two. And there might, there's
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probably more. haven't followed up on that. I
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just saw it some time ago, but I thought that
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was really interesting that this kind of really
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fits with the sandal covenant of your boundaries.
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Yeah. And recognize too, it was those, the children
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that went into the promised land because the
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adults had murmured, complained, backed by wine,
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you know, their maturity did not allow them to
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enter into the fullness of the covenantal promise.
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Still servants. Yeah. Maybe friends. But no,
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Moses and Joshua, friends. And then the promise.
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So there's so many parallels we can look at.
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And then the final, of course, is the bridal.
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That's the greatest level of intimacy. Stogne
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speaks of the intimacy of a husband and wife.
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So, and you know, the husband and wife finally
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get to the point they can look at each other
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and communicate. Because they've been together
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so long and they understand what each thinks.
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So that's the picture, four major covenants,
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that the Lord, once Adam and Eve fell, immediately
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initiated the blood covenant. He slew an animal,
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covered them, so that they could come back into
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this place of intimacy, bridal intimacy. That
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was his design. And so it's all about the name,
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the character, the name. Absolutely. Beautiful.
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Absolutely. It's so important that we don't just
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stop at getting born again. There's a whole lifelong
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discipleship and growing in, as you said, growing
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in relationship with the Lord. It's so significant.
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I've had this discussion with people. I mean,
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years ago when I was in the military, I had friends
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in there that say, well, I got saved, I'm a Baptist,
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once saved, always saved, and they go out and
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live like the devil himself. That's not how that
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works. No, it's not. And yet I do know it's the
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grace and mercy of God that puts within us a
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desire to know Him more. Yes. And I know within
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those guys that I'm talking about that I remember
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that desire was there, but they kept ignoring
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it for the freewheeling life they thought they
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were having. And it was a deception they agreed
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to, not a calling and a longing that God had
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been placing in there. And so it's all based
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upon our response. The grace is there. He's calling
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to us. Will you respond? Revelations 19, verse
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7 and 8. To her, it's been granted to become
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arrayed in fine linen, clean and bright. So each
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one of us, as we progress in God, It's an invitation.
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Will you be my bride? If you're accepting that,
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then you're weaving a garment of fine linen,
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clean and bright, which is the righteous acts
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of the saints. It starts with servant, friend,
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son, bride. You've agreed to step into the process
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of becoming. And that takes righteous acts of
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faith. with humility, with, you know, all the
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above. So that's the important one. This whole
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idea of developing the character of Christ is,
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I think, so, I mean, we preach about it all the
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time. That's one of our main topics on this podcast,
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because our mandate, I feel, is to contend for
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the outpouring and equip for the outpouring.
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So equipping for the outpouring. has to do with
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developing the character of Christ. You're not
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going to be able to carry the weight of what's
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coming in this outpouring of the Holy Spirit
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on all flesh if you don't have a measure of this
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maturity. working in your life. And it's going
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to be all hands on deck. And the newly born again
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are going to be helping people get born again.
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I know that's true. But somebody's got to help
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people grow up in the things of God. So that's
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kind of one of the reasons why we hammer on it
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so much is that. you know, Galatians 5, where
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it's talking about the fruit of the Spirit, that's
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describing what Jesus' character was like. And
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his character was like that because, remember,
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it was the Spirit of God that hovered over Mary,
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and she brought him forth from the seat of the
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woman, which was prophesied in the Garden of
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Eden when they were being dealt with after they
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had eaten the wrong food. So this idea of becoming
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like Jesus is a real thing that we should be
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pursuing. Yeah. The Spirit overshadowed Mary.
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Yeah. The Spirit overshadowed each one of us
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at our new birth. Absolutely. With the potential
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to enter into the fullness of the knowledge of
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God. Amen. But Jesus, from the day one, submitted
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himself to tutors. He submitted himself to a
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process, even though at age 12, he knew far more
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than the learned men in Jerusalem. And his parents
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said, no, it's not time. And he came back and
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submitted himself until he was 30, at which point
00:28:42.559 --> 00:28:46.180
the father said, okay, now you're ready. We're
00:28:46.180 --> 00:28:49.980
never taught that. We're taught we're born again,
00:28:50.140 --> 00:28:53.420
and you've got an anointing, and you've got a
00:28:53.420 --> 00:28:57.269
gifting. Now, take the world. Yeah. Well, that
00:28:57.269 --> 00:28:59.490
will carry you so far until you crash and burn.
00:28:59.589 --> 00:29:03.150
We're seeing it happen all around us. Yeah. What
00:29:03.150 --> 00:29:06.170
God is doing in your message, in our message,
00:29:06.349 --> 00:29:11.150
is calling forth mothers and fathers to help
00:29:11.150 --> 00:29:16.130
steward and help this final generation so that
00:29:16.130 --> 00:29:18.369
they go all the way and not part of the way.
00:29:18.609 --> 00:29:22.359
Amen. Pastor Tony, or we call him Bishop Tony,
00:29:22.519 --> 00:29:25.619
Apostle, whatever. And he says, call me anything
00:29:25.619 --> 00:29:28.019
but a prophet, because they stone the prophets.
00:29:28.299 --> 00:29:32.799
But his last teaching, he has just put out called
00:29:32.799 --> 00:29:36.180
the Capacity Code. Yeah, it was episode 306.
00:29:36.420 --> 00:29:39.920
Episode 306, where God is wanting to, you have
00:29:39.920 --> 00:29:43.500
to increase your capacity for all the giftings,
00:29:43.500 --> 00:29:45.819
and that's there. And that reminds me, years
00:29:45.819 --> 00:29:50.410
ago, when I was Sigi, that was born in Germany
00:29:50.410 --> 00:29:52.750
when the bombs were falling on Berlin, and she
00:29:52.750 --> 00:29:56.150
grew up under the Soviets. And when she got a
00:29:56.150 --> 00:29:59.430
hold of God, and she has an expression, she used,
00:29:59.609 --> 00:30:02.710
you need a bigger transformer, which is kind
00:30:02.710 --> 00:30:05.309
of the same thing, because you get a bigger transformer,
00:30:05.369 --> 00:30:09.589
you're able to handle more voltage, more power,
00:30:09.630 --> 00:30:12.349
and be able to handle what God gives you. And
00:30:12.349 --> 00:30:16.059
I thought that's a real good parallel. For what
00:30:16.059 --> 00:30:19.920
God wants to do through us and for us, but the
00:30:19.920 --> 00:30:24.160
ball's in our court, basically. Yes. People don't
00:30:24.160 --> 00:30:27.200
think of a day -by -day choice a lot of times
00:30:27.200 --> 00:30:31.140
as a relationship with Jesus because they've
00:30:31.140 --> 00:30:34.079
never maybe experienced anything deeper, but
00:30:34.079 --> 00:30:38.579
it's just there. The more time that you spend
00:30:38.579 --> 00:30:40.960
there, the more you want to. But it's getting
00:30:40.960 --> 00:30:43.539
kind of like getting over that hurdle of putting
00:30:43.539 --> 00:30:46.279
the flesh aside enough to get a taste of what
00:30:46.279 --> 00:30:49.980
he really has for you. Amen. Yeah, in the last
00:30:49.980 --> 00:30:52.980
few years, it's hard for me to find language,
00:30:53.039 --> 00:30:57.380
a vocabulary to express a deeper work I know
00:30:57.380 --> 00:31:02.240
God's doing in me and a change of mind, mindset.
00:31:03.180 --> 00:31:05.859
And I know it's the grace of God. I'm not pointing
00:31:05.859 --> 00:31:09.180
at me like, look at me. I'm in awe and wonder,
00:31:09.279 --> 00:31:13.140
but I see things differently. I understand differently.
00:31:13.740 --> 00:31:16.339
And I believe it's got to do with a process of
00:31:16.339 --> 00:31:19.660
maturity. And, you know, my only thought in that
00:31:19.660 --> 00:31:21.259
is, why couldn't we have done this when I was
00:31:21.259 --> 00:31:25.859
18, Lord? But there's a time and a season for
00:31:25.859 --> 00:31:30.599
everything under the sun. And I'm looking at
00:31:30.599 --> 00:31:34.099
God's calling forth the Joshua's, the Caleb's,
00:31:34.099 --> 00:31:37.039
you know, the Miriam's. We've got to help this
00:31:37.039 --> 00:31:42.299
final generation. Yes, absolutely. I remember
00:31:42.299 --> 00:31:45.960
one of our mentors a number of years ago was
00:31:45.960 --> 00:31:48.799
saying, we want you to climb on our shoulders
00:31:48.799 --> 00:31:53.960
and go higher. And Bob Jones said to Sister Gwen,
00:31:54.099 --> 00:31:56.539
our founder, Sister Gwen, you have nothing to
00:31:56.539 --> 00:31:59.740
worry about. your ceiling will be your handmaidens'
00:31:59.740 --> 00:32:03.900
dancing floor. So it's all about every generation
00:32:03.900 --> 00:32:07.619
adding to what the previous generations have
00:32:07.619 --> 00:32:11.859
had, and each generation gets stronger and goes
00:32:11.859 --> 00:32:14.619
higher as long as they're on the right track,
00:32:14.759 --> 00:32:17.779
learning to grow up in God. If they don't get
00:32:17.779 --> 00:32:20.420
that, they're not going to add anything to their
00:32:20.420 --> 00:32:24.319
generation. Yeah. Not that I'm naive, but the
00:32:24.319 --> 00:32:26.980
Lord showed me that years ago. My ceiling should
00:32:26.980 --> 00:32:30.440
be their floor. So it's comforting to know that
00:32:30.440 --> 00:32:34.240
God's spoken that to many. Yes. That's the way
00:32:34.240 --> 00:32:36.500
it should be. Yeah, it is the way it should be.
00:32:36.559 --> 00:32:38.579
And if you look at church history, that's the
00:32:38.579 --> 00:32:41.680
way it always has been. Not necessarily that
00:32:41.680 --> 00:32:45.259
the days of the book of Acts got better in the
00:32:45.259 --> 00:32:49.700
next generation. kind of waned somewhat. There's
00:32:49.700 --> 00:32:53.059
always been a Pentecostal outpouring in every
00:32:53.059 --> 00:32:56.880
generation, if you really look at church history.
00:32:57.119 --> 00:33:01.880
But like, for instance, in Europe in, what would
00:33:01.880 --> 00:33:05.559
it be, I think maybe around the 1500s or so when
00:33:05.559 --> 00:33:08.559
the Anabaptists got the vision that you should
00:33:08.559 --> 00:33:12.690
be baptized by immersion as Someone who knows
00:33:12.690 --> 00:33:14.609
what they're doing and not just as a baby being
00:33:14.609 --> 00:33:17.970
sprinkled. You know, sprinkling came in in the
00:33:17.970 --> 00:33:20.650
days of Constantine when all of a sudden he says,
00:33:20.789 --> 00:33:23.950
OK, we're all Christians. Everybody get baptized.
00:33:23.970 --> 00:33:26.490
So they just sprinkled water because it was too
00:33:26.490 --> 00:33:29.630
many people to dunk. And so sprinkling became
00:33:29.630 --> 00:33:34.589
a thing. Right. So at some point, I don't know,
00:33:34.589 --> 00:33:37.329
it was 1400s or 1500s. But but at some point,
00:33:37.369 --> 00:33:41.359
the Anabaptists got the Anabaptist means. baptized
00:33:41.359 --> 00:33:44.900
again, I think, if I recall correctly, because
00:33:44.900 --> 00:33:47.680
they had been baptized as babies. You know, that
00:33:47.680 --> 00:33:51.619
was just how it was done. And somebody gets a
00:33:51.619 --> 00:33:54.960
revelation. And the previous generation tends
00:33:54.960 --> 00:33:59.339
to persecute the generation that gets a new revelation.
00:34:00.059 --> 00:34:05.140
And, you know, they had cases of being drowned
00:34:05.140 --> 00:34:09.260
in the river. because they were giving this doctrine
00:34:09.260 --> 00:34:13.659
of baptism. And so they said, okay, let's see
00:34:13.659 --> 00:34:17.360
how you like it. And they never came back up
00:34:17.360 --> 00:34:20.800
alive. So there was persecution. So everything
00:34:20.800 --> 00:34:25.739
that's being restored, like in the days of the
00:34:25.739 --> 00:34:28.820
Methodist movement in, what would that be? The
00:34:28.820 --> 00:34:32.940
1700s, I think, in England. England was about
00:34:32.940 --> 00:34:35.420
to crash and burn, really. It was in bad, bad
00:34:35.420 --> 00:34:38.780
shape. But God began to move. And if you've seen
00:34:38.780 --> 00:34:41.900
the movie A Great Awakening, you see a little
00:34:41.900 --> 00:34:45.659
bit of what went on in Oxford with the Holy Club,
00:34:45.780 --> 00:34:49.179
with John Wesley and his brother Charles and
00:34:49.179 --> 00:34:52.099
George Whitefield, and there were others. And
00:34:52.099 --> 00:34:56.420
they began to understand being born again. John
00:34:56.420 --> 00:34:58.820
Wesley talked about, my heart was strangely warmed.
00:34:59.469 --> 00:35:02.349
Suddenly he knew that he was saved, where up
00:35:02.349 --> 00:35:05.329
to that point in their doctrine, they didn't
00:35:05.329 --> 00:35:07.369
know that you could be saved. You just hoped
00:35:07.369 --> 00:35:11.489
that you would make it to heaven. And so they
00:35:11.489 --> 00:35:14.349
were teaching being born again. And, you know,
00:35:14.349 --> 00:35:16.969
just one thing after another is added generation
00:35:16.969 --> 00:35:20.429
after generation. There's more revelation. So,
00:35:20.489 --> 00:35:23.630
you know, the fact that God has brought translation
00:35:23.630 --> 00:35:29.500
back into your ministry to teach. I suppose you've
00:35:29.500 --> 00:35:32.800
probably had a little persecution. Just to leave
00:35:32.800 --> 00:35:37.780
it. Just to leave it. But, you know, you're bringing
00:35:37.780 --> 00:35:40.800
back something. Like, let me just go back even
00:35:40.800 --> 00:35:44.059
in our ministry. Sister Gwen Shaw, our founder,
00:35:44.300 --> 00:35:49.219
she brought back fasting and intercession. And
00:35:49.219 --> 00:35:51.880
hardly anybody was doing it when she came home
00:35:51.880 --> 00:35:55.590
from the mission field. In the early 1950s, she
00:35:55.590 --> 00:35:57.690
discovered that the churches that she went to
00:35:57.690 --> 00:36:00.349
were very proud of the fact that they had turned
00:36:00.349 --> 00:36:02.809
their prayer room into a stainless steel kitchen.
00:36:05.079 --> 00:36:08.219
So she was really concerned about this, probably
00:36:08.219 --> 00:36:11.760
the 60s as well. And so she wrote this book,
00:36:11.940 --> 00:36:14.480
Pour Out Your Heart, about intercession. Did
00:36:14.480 --> 00:36:16.300
she write that first, that one? That was her
00:36:16.300 --> 00:36:18.519
first one, yeah. And then after that, she wrote
00:36:18.519 --> 00:36:20.579
about fasting, Your Appointment with God. And
00:36:20.579 --> 00:36:23.940
hardly anybody was talking about fasting in those
00:36:23.940 --> 00:36:27.719
days. And now it's pretty common. It's pretty
00:36:27.719 --> 00:36:30.619
common for you to find churches that at the beginning
00:36:30.619 --> 00:36:33.519
of the year, they declare a fast. It's not so
00:36:33.519 --> 00:36:37.679
uncommon. So God keeps adding and he keeps adding
00:36:37.679 --> 00:36:39.679
and he keeps adding because he wants to make
00:36:39.679 --> 00:36:42.059
it richer. He wants to make it better. You know,
00:36:42.139 --> 00:36:45.179
Dean Braxton talks about when he was in heaven,
00:36:45.260 --> 00:36:49.880
that he looked at the Father. And he would just
00:36:49.880 --> 00:36:52.599
get overwhelmed with the greatness and the glory
00:36:52.599 --> 00:36:54.900
and all the adjectives you can think of. And
00:36:54.900 --> 00:36:57.420
he'd look again and he was more so. That every
00:36:57.420 --> 00:37:02.179
moment he is increasing in his glory and increasing
00:37:02.179 --> 00:37:04.619
in his love for you. And every moment he's creating
00:37:04.619 --> 00:37:09.659
new love just for you. And, you know, it's revelation
00:37:09.659 --> 00:37:14.440
that is meant to change us and meant to make
00:37:14.440 --> 00:37:17.519
us grow closer to him. You know, starting in
00:37:17.519 --> 00:37:21.349
Acts. It exploded on the scene and then waned.
00:37:22.150 --> 00:37:27.949
So unless a seed falls into the ground, it won't
00:37:27.949 --> 00:37:30.730
bring forth the harvest. That's why every generation
00:37:30.730 --> 00:37:33.530
has their own seed that comes forth from past
00:37:33.530 --> 00:37:38.329
generations in greater clarity, greater clarity,
00:37:38.349 --> 00:37:43.829
until the final day when it comes forth in fullness,
00:37:44.110 --> 00:37:47.400
the fullness of the knowledge of God. That's
00:37:47.400 --> 00:37:50.000
where all of this has been leading. And so anytime
00:37:50.000 --> 00:37:52.920
you receive insight and revelation from God that
00:37:52.920 --> 00:37:57.800
is forerunner in nature, there's going to be
00:37:57.800 --> 00:38:00.800
contending and contention, but there's going
00:38:00.800 --> 00:38:03.639
to bring forth a greater harvest of truth and
00:38:03.639 --> 00:38:07.179
Christ -likeness than the past generation. So
00:38:07.179 --> 00:38:10.539
we can't judge them. We have to have compassion.
00:38:11.659 --> 00:38:13.519
And then determine in our hearts we're not going
00:38:13.519 --> 00:38:16.199
to stop the new thing God's going to do that
00:38:16.199 --> 00:38:20.320
goes after us. Right. And that's called parenting.
00:38:21.539 --> 00:38:27.460
Yes, Parenting 101. Absolutely. To step into.
00:38:28.079 --> 00:38:30.480
That's my favorite part of the Great Awakening
00:38:30.480 --> 00:38:35.159
was when he went into that first church. Oh,
00:38:35.159 --> 00:38:38.489
yeah. I think he throws the wig down and hypocrite.
00:38:38.530 --> 00:38:40.769
And I went, oh, yeah, come on, come on. Yeah.
00:38:42.969 --> 00:38:47.949
That was great. That was good. Wow. He didn't
00:38:47.949 --> 00:38:52.510
mince any words. No. And you got to watch. You
00:38:52.510 --> 00:38:57.309
can only imagine two also. That was, wow. I haven't
00:38:57.309 --> 00:39:00.250
seen that one yet. Wow. I don't think we saw
00:39:00.250 --> 00:39:01.130
the first one. Get your comics out if you do.
00:39:01.690 --> 00:39:05.440
Okay. Okay. It's based on the song, It Is Well
00:39:05.440 --> 00:39:10.099
With My Soul, the story behind it. Oh, yes, Horatio
00:39:10.099 --> 00:39:13.920
Spafford. Wow, I didn't realize that that's what
00:39:13.920 --> 00:39:16.480
that was for. You know, I heard that there was
00:39:16.480 --> 00:39:20.579
a movie by that name. Yeah, the guy, one of the
00:39:20.579 --> 00:39:23.699
main guys in the movie, that song spoke to him
00:39:23.699 --> 00:39:26.679
and he shares how it came about because he was
00:39:26.679 --> 00:39:28.760
going through something. It's powerful, so powerful.
00:39:29.239 --> 00:39:33.250
Wow. That's awesome, yeah. We were out in the
00:39:33.250 --> 00:39:36.989
northeast and we went into, it was a Jonathan
00:39:36.989 --> 00:39:39.610
Edwards church, I believe it was. He's buried
00:39:39.610 --> 00:39:42.969
in the church underneath. And you're sitting
00:39:42.969 --> 00:39:46.449
there in this place and I'm looking at this piano
00:39:46.449 --> 00:39:48.929
that was up there. It's a square piano, totally
00:39:48.929 --> 00:39:53.010
square. It goes way back to the 1800s and kind
00:39:53.010 --> 00:39:56.000
of picturing. where Jonathan Edwards is sitting
00:39:56.000 --> 00:39:58.039
down there and George Whitefield is preaching,
00:39:58.219 --> 00:40:01.079
you know, up in the pulpit. And I remember him
00:40:01.079 --> 00:40:03.880
calling the fiery Whitefield, you know. And when
00:40:03.880 --> 00:40:06.739
we saw that movie, that really gave me an idea
00:40:06.739 --> 00:40:10.820
what that was like, you know. Right. Wow. Yeah.
00:40:10.960 --> 00:40:14.199
I love revival. Yeah. Sister Gwen was a real
00:40:14.199 --> 00:40:16.820
revivalist, and I would get so stirred up by
00:40:16.820 --> 00:40:18.739
the Holy Ghost when she would preach about revival.
00:40:19.159 --> 00:40:21.079
Wow, wow, wow. Let me give you a sneak peek.
00:40:21.579 --> 00:40:25.079
Oh. Yeah. You know, Dr. Flo Ehlers. Oh, yes.
00:40:25.119 --> 00:40:27.699
Oh, yes. We just talked. Next book. I'm going
00:40:27.699 --> 00:40:29.920
to give it an advert here called Bulldog Faith.
00:40:30.119 --> 00:40:33.500
She asked me to read it. And man, oh, man, oh,
00:40:33.500 --> 00:40:35.719
man. It's good. It's good. It's very good. She
00:40:35.719 --> 00:40:38.639
sent it to us, too. You guys are rating it, too.
00:40:38.840 --> 00:40:42.199
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Perfect. I mean, I love it.
00:40:42.260 --> 00:40:45.190
I just love it. Such a powerful. Powerful woman
00:40:45.190 --> 00:40:48.150
of God. Yeah, we had her on a podcast that just
00:40:48.150 --> 00:40:50.630
came out about three weeks ago, I think. Oh,
00:40:50.630 --> 00:40:53.849
good. She was telling some of her Bulldog Faith
00:40:53.849 --> 00:40:57.409
stories. Yeah, I learned a lot I hadn't known,
00:40:57.570 --> 00:41:00.050
which is power. I mean, just good stuff. What
00:41:00.050 --> 00:41:04.389
she went through. I know. Oh, what her husband
00:41:04.389 --> 00:41:08.989
went through, too. Yeah. So anybody out there
00:41:08.989 --> 00:41:10.909
listening, you need to look for that book to
00:41:10.909 --> 00:41:13.829
come out, Bulldog Faith by Dr. Flo Ehlers. Yeah,
00:41:13.849 --> 00:41:17.849
should be out, I'm thinking, in the summer. It's
00:41:17.849 --> 00:41:19.869
just gone for editing and that sort of thing.
00:41:19.989 --> 00:41:23.650
Dr. Flo has been, wow, she's been a friend for
00:41:23.650 --> 00:41:27.250
a long, long time. And back to the subject of
00:41:27.250 --> 00:41:29.869
translation, she was the one who introduced us
00:41:29.869 --> 00:41:33.309
to the video that she made of Brother Grubbs
00:41:33.309 --> 00:41:37.989
decades ago. You want to tell some of his stories?
00:41:38.530 --> 00:41:41.050
The way she told us, when she finally heard me
00:41:41.050 --> 00:41:43.300
teach a little bit on this, She said, I think
00:41:43.300 --> 00:41:45.219
I got something for you. She went and dug out
00:41:45.219 --> 00:41:47.780
that old video. She said, I haven't done anything
00:41:47.780 --> 00:41:52.380
with this because it was way out there. So she
00:41:52.380 --> 00:41:56.099
gave me permission. We put it on DVD. This brother
00:41:56.099 --> 00:42:02.860
Grubbs, in 1951, he had a NDE, near -death experience.
00:42:03.559 --> 00:42:07.400
So from that day on, that was 1950 actually,
00:42:07.480 --> 00:42:11.320
from that day on, two angels would come and pick
00:42:11.320 --> 00:42:13.960
him up. physically, and take him to different
00:42:13.960 --> 00:42:17.199
parts of the world to minister. And he starts
00:42:17.199 --> 00:42:20.079
sharing in that video his exploits about some
00:42:20.079 --> 00:42:21.880
of the things he did and where the angels took
00:42:21.880 --> 00:42:24.039
him. Sometimes it was in the body, sometimes
00:42:24.039 --> 00:42:27.119
it was not. And the witnesses, so many people
00:42:27.119 --> 00:42:30.300
witnessed and watched this. And Paul Harvey in
00:42:30.300 --> 00:42:33.039
1951 even wrote about it in the New York Times
00:42:33.039 --> 00:42:35.099
about the man who appeared and disappeared of
00:42:35.099 --> 00:42:41.389
the UN building. One of his first journeys. Wow.
00:42:41.510 --> 00:42:45.030
He was a forerunner, but he made the mistake
00:42:45.030 --> 00:42:48.730
that anybody would. They're excited about what
00:42:48.730 --> 00:42:50.969
God's doing. And he shared it and they ostracized
00:42:50.969 --> 00:42:53.530
him, said, no, that's the devil. Stay away. At
00:42:53.530 --> 00:42:57.909
first in this interview with Dr. Flo, they're
00:42:57.909 --> 00:43:01.530
very kind of hesitant. But then they started
00:43:01.530 --> 00:43:04.389
getting into it. And it was a shame. I mean,
00:43:04.449 --> 00:43:10.800
he was, what, in his 70s by then? 1987? And he'd
00:43:10.800 --> 00:43:13.219
had a stroke in the past, so he's not quite as
00:43:13.219 --> 00:43:15.860
– so his wife was picking it up and his son was
00:43:15.860 --> 00:43:20.420
sharing some of the things. And, yeah, what a
00:43:20.420 --> 00:43:23.119
treasure that we ostracize because of ignorance.
00:43:23.599 --> 00:43:26.800
Yeah. You know, we did a podcast with Hannah
00:43:26.800 --> 00:43:29.539
Werner not too long ago because she's one of
00:43:29.539 --> 00:43:32.460
our speakers at the convention. And some of the
00:43:32.460 --> 00:43:35.659
comments we got are just – From the shorts. On
00:43:35.659 --> 00:43:37.820
the shorts, you know, that we put out there just
00:43:37.820 --> 00:43:42.250
like – People can't go to heaven or this is witchcraft.
00:43:42.409 --> 00:43:44.789
Nobody's been there. Nobody, you know, I was
00:43:44.789 --> 00:43:48.250
astounded at the negativity that stirred up.
00:43:48.329 --> 00:43:51.210
I thought, wow, it's just like these people have
00:43:51.210 --> 00:43:54.929
no idea. Nobody can go to heaven, huh? What are
00:43:54.929 --> 00:43:56.190
we doing? And come back and talk about it. And
00:43:56.190 --> 00:43:58.389
come back and talk about it, you know. You mean
00:43:58.389 --> 00:44:02.610
like Jesus did? Yeah. Who said, by the way, the
00:44:02.610 --> 00:44:04.289
works I do, you can do, never mind. You can do
00:44:04.289 --> 00:44:07.230
greater, yeah. Yeah. Wow. I was just thinking.
00:44:07.230 --> 00:44:11.039
Or like Paul did, or like. One of the testimonies
00:44:11.039 --> 00:44:14.500
that I remember from Brother Grubb's testimony
00:44:14.500 --> 00:44:17.639
that since we are talking about translation is
00:44:17.639 --> 00:44:20.420
when there was a fire. Was it in Alaska? No,
00:44:20.480 --> 00:44:24.519
the earthquake in Alaska in 64. And go ahead,
00:44:24.619 --> 00:44:27.239
if you remember. He heard there was an earthquake
00:44:27.239 --> 00:44:29.340
and all of a sudden these angels came and grabbed
00:44:29.340 --> 00:44:32.440
him and took him. And there was a fallen building
00:44:32.440 --> 00:44:34.539
and he's standing on, you know, it's at an angle.
00:44:34.579 --> 00:44:38.510
He's standing. Apparently, first responders in
00:44:38.510 --> 00:44:40.849
that said, get off of there. You know, it's dangerous.
00:44:40.969 --> 00:44:44.090
It's going to collapse. But he heard a child.
00:44:45.030 --> 00:44:47.889
And so he dug himself into there and found this
00:44:47.889 --> 00:44:49.969
child and brought this child out and handed him
00:44:49.969 --> 00:44:53.670
back to the first responders. And then the angels
00:44:53.670 --> 00:44:57.469
brought him home. Yeah. Wow. For one child. Yeah,
00:44:57.590 --> 00:45:01.530
we need to be first responders in that way. Wow.
00:45:01.849 --> 00:45:04.269
Exactly. And I wonder what the destiny was for
00:45:04.269 --> 00:45:06.869
that child that he pulled out. You know, I think
00:45:06.869 --> 00:45:10.289
if this is broadcast and if we had this video
00:45:10.289 --> 00:45:13.429
up and more, it's on YouTube now because people,
00:45:13.510 --> 00:45:15.590
you know how people are. They take your video
00:45:15.590 --> 00:45:19.090
and boom. But I mean, who knows? It could be
00:45:19.090 --> 00:45:21.369
possible somebody would witness that and want
00:45:21.369 --> 00:45:24.550
to come forth with their testimony. That would
00:45:24.550 --> 00:45:27.289
be awesome. That would be amazing. Wouldn't that
00:45:27.289 --> 00:45:30.480
be something? Yeah. Wow. For someone to step
00:45:30.480 --> 00:45:33.420
up and say, I was that child. Yeah. We've had
00:45:33.420 --> 00:45:35.840
encounters with people in Europe and different
00:45:35.840 --> 00:45:38.800
places where we shared about a little bit on
00:45:38.800 --> 00:45:40.400
translation and they finally come up and said,
00:45:40.440 --> 00:45:44.340
oh, thank God, now I can share this because it's
00:45:44.340 --> 00:45:48.000
the truth and I won't be passed out. And even
00:45:48.000 --> 00:45:52.199
in America, that older lady in Southern California,
00:45:52.199 --> 00:45:55.440
the well -known pastor's church. They asked me
00:45:55.440 --> 00:45:57.960
to come and share on this, and he was very dubious.
00:45:57.980 --> 00:46:00.739
And he says, can I ask you some questions? Don,
00:46:00.840 --> 00:46:04.420
he was grabbing the mic. And I knew, okay, he's
00:46:04.420 --> 00:46:06.840
looking for a battle here. The first thing he
00:46:06.840 --> 00:46:09.099
says, now, I don't know if you believe anything
00:46:09.099 --> 00:46:11.400
he said, but who in here has ever had an experience
00:46:11.400 --> 00:46:13.059
like this? And a couple of hands went off, and
00:46:13.059 --> 00:46:16.920
he went, what? I'm your pastor. You didn't tell
00:46:16.920 --> 00:46:20.059
me? Yeah. And so this woman came up. She was
00:46:20.059 --> 00:46:25.239
in her 70s. She had talked how years ago. She
00:46:25.239 --> 00:46:28.719
was in America. She was taken over to England
00:46:28.719 --> 00:46:30.960
into a hospital. She went into this hospital
00:46:30.960 --> 00:46:33.340
room and ministered to somebody, prayed for them.
00:46:33.900 --> 00:46:36.920
And that person was healed. And then she vanished
00:46:36.920 --> 00:46:38.880
and came back. And it was written up in the news
00:46:38.880 --> 00:46:42.380
over there. So he was just gobsmacked. He went,
00:46:42.440 --> 00:46:49.820
I said, next question. So, yeah, there were two
00:46:49.820 --> 00:46:53.780
or three people had had experiences. But see.
00:46:54.429 --> 00:46:58.570
They didn't want to be ostracized. So I know
00:46:58.570 --> 00:47:00.230
there's more people out there walking in this
00:47:00.230 --> 00:47:04.090
than talk, which is okay, too, because this isn't
00:47:04.090 --> 00:47:07.449
to be, except for now God's releasing it. Yeah.
00:47:07.909 --> 00:47:11.869
I'm reminded also of we were in a GLOW meeting
00:47:11.869 --> 00:47:15.150
with Sister Gwen in Mountain Home, Arkansas.
00:47:16.230 --> 00:47:18.849
And afterwards, a lady comes up to her and says,
00:47:18.969 --> 00:47:21.230
thank you so much for coming to the hospital
00:47:21.230 --> 00:47:24.690
and praying for me. I was healed. And she said,
00:47:24.829 --> 00:47:28.610
I don't remember ever coming to Mountain Home
00:47:28.610 --> 00:47:30.989
to the hospital to pray for anybody. She said,
00:47:31.010 --> 00:47:33.510
when did that happen? And she told her the exact
00:47:33.510 --> 00:47:36.010
date. And Sister Gwen said, I was in the Philippines
00:47:36.010 --> 00:47:41.989
then. So she probably did it in her sleep or
00:47:41.989 --> 00:47:45.289
when she was praying or something. Or just praying
00:47:45.289 --> 00:47:48.750
in the spirit. Yeah, sure, sure. Yeah, we've
00:47:48.750 --> 00:47:51.440
had those experiences too. Yeah, one of my favorite
00:47:51.440 --> 00:47:53.179
stories that Sister Gwen used to tell, and she
00:47:53.179 --> 00:47:55.159
told all of these kind of translation stories.
00:47:55.239 --> 00:47:58.360
So it's like I grew up spiritually on this kind
00:47:58.360 --> 00:48:02.880
of stuff. This is normal Christianity to me.
00:48:03.079 --> 00:48:05.699
When I first got Spirit -filled, I heard about
00:48:05.699 --> 00:48:08.340
somebody that was driving someplace and they
00:48:08.340 --> 00:48:10.739
got there hours before they should because God
00:48:10.739 --> 00:48:12.780
had translated them. So, you know, I was in my
00:48:12.780 --> 00:48:15.199
teens when I heard that. So this is normal. This
00:48:15.199 --> 00:48:17.730
is normal Christianity to me. We were going to
00:48:17.730 --> 00:48:20.110
this little Methodist church in Jasper where
00:48:20.110 --> 00:48:23.670
we were at. And one of my friends there, he was
00:48:23.670 --> 00:48:27.010
a mechanic. That's how we got to know him. And
00:48:27.010 --> 00:48:30.269
he had this little tiny Ford Escort, and he kind
00:48:30.269 --> 00:48:33.369
of drove kind of wild. And he's coming up our
00:48:33.369 --> 00:48:37.030
Highway 7 and comes up, and a truck is— Now,
00:48:37.070 --> 00:48:39.210
wait a minute. You've got to explain that Highway
00:48:39.210 --> 00:48:41.929
7— He's coming up a mountain. He's coming up
00:48:41.929 --> 00:48:43.889
a mountain. One curve after another curve. So
00:48:43.889 --> 00:48:45.469
around every curve, there's another curve. Yeah,
00:48:45.469 --> 00:48:48.449
we call it Dramamine Drive, Highway 7, you know,
00:48:48.469 --> 00:48:50.130
because you're going to get motion sick on it.
00:48:50.530 --> 00:48:53.590
And he's zipping up the mountain. And all of
00:48:53.590 --> 00:48:57.610
a sudden, a semi is coming jackknifed, you know,
00:48:57.610 --> 00:49:00.710
coming over, blocking his lane. And all of a
00:49:00.710 --> 00:49:03.809
sudden, he's on the other side of the semi. And
00:49:03.809 --> 00:49:06.909
I don't know how many people he told. He wasn't
00:49:06.909 --> 00:49:09.849
what you call a real deep Christian. But God
00:49:09.849 --> 00:49:12.610
had a purpose for doing that for his life. And
00:49:12.610 --> 00:49:16.250
I thought, oh, wow. Yeah, the Lord used him as
00:49:16.250 --> 00:49:20.010
an evangelist after that. He was used by the
00:49:20.010 --> 00:49:23.349
Lord in just one -on -one kind of evangelism.
00:49:23.469 --> 00:49:26.329
I remember our music group. They're from Lake
00:49:26.329 --> 00:49:30.159
Elsinore, California. They travel in a bus. And
00:49:30.159 --> 00:49:33.619
I think they were in a car this time or whatever
00:49:33.619 --> 00:49:36.420
they were in. Coming up to an intersection, all
00:49:36.420 --> 00:49:38.619
of a sudden, this truck just pulls right out
00:49:38.619 --> 00:49:41.539
or a car pulled right out. And all of a sudden,
00:49:41.579 --> 00:49:43.219
they're on the other side. And when she looks
00:49:43.219 --> 00:49:46.400
in the rearview mirror, the person is out of
00:49:46.400 --> 00:49:48.480
the car with their hands on their waist looking
00:49:48.480 --> 00:49:51.829
at them like, what happened? You should have
00:49:51.829 --> 00:49:56.250
nailed me. True. That's pretty awesome. It just
00:49:56.250 --> 00:49:58.710
reminded me, since you guys started sharing those
00:49:58.710 --> 00:50:01.809
testimonies, we were doing a school in South
00:50:01.809 --> 00:50:04.889
Africa some years ago, and there was a lady who
00:50:04.889 --> 00:50:07.429
came to the school, and that happened to her.
00:50:08.289 --> 00:50:10.929
She was in the school for five days, but I don't
00:50:10.929 --> 00:50:13.989
know, it was day two or day three. That happened
00:50:13.989 --> 00:50:16.980
to her while she was coming to the school. She
00:50:16.980 --> 00:50:19.699
came and told us what had happened. There was
00:50:19.699 --> 00:50:23.400
no way she said she could have gone any direction.
00:50:23.460 --> 00:50:26.079
This truck was coming right at her, and next
00:50:26.079 --> 00:50:27.940
thing she knew, she was on the other side of
00:50:27.940 --> 00:50:31.460
it. God totally protected her. So, yeah, we have
00:50:31.460 --> 00:50:34.480
testimonies, piles of testimonies from around
00:50:34.480 --> 00:50:36.519
the world. We should collect some more of those.
00:50:36.559 --> 00:50:39.960
Yeah, it's not just the person. It's not just
00:50:39.960 --> 00:50:42.159
the person, too, but the vehicle they're driving.
00:50:42.579 --> 00:50:46.659
Right, right. Bag in baggage. Biblical. Jesus
00:50:46.659 --> 00:50:48.639
stepped into the boat and instantly was at the
00:50:48.639 --> 00:50:51.019
shore. True. Was at shore, yeah. Absolutely.
00:50:51.460 --> 00:50:54.699
Absolutely. So that story I was about to tell
00:50:54.699 --> 00:50:57.639
was that there was this lady in California named
00:50:57.639 --> 00:51:00.619
Confidence Cloats. I don't know how long ago,
00:51:00.840 --> 00:51:04.639
but Sister Gwen used to tell this story about
00:51:04.639 --> 00:51:09.139
how this lady would be dreaming. I mean, she'd
00:51:09.139 --> 00:51:12.880
go to sleep. And in her dreams, the angel would
00:51:12.880 --> 00:51:16.159
come and take her someplace to minister. And
00:51:16.159 --> 00:51:18.139
she would go and minister. The angel would bring
00:51:18.139 --> 00:51:22.099
her back and she'd wake up. So one day she's
00:51:22.099 --> 00:51:24.300
on her way. And I don't remember where she went,
00:51:24.320 --> 00:51:28.780
but I have it in the way I remember the story.
00:51:28.860 --> 00:51:30.199
I don't know if it's the right place or not,
00:51:30.260 --> 00:51:33.019
but I think she was in the Philippines. And she
00:51:33.019 --> 00:51:36.039
preached the gospel and, you know, God did signs
00:51:36.039 --> 00:51:37.820
and wonders and all the things that he does.
00:51:38.480 --> 00:51:41.139
And the angel is bringing her back as the sun
00:51:41.139 --> 00:51:44.639
is coming up. And she says, oh, they're seeing
00:51:44.639 --> 00:51:48.039
the coastline of California. She says, oh, angel,
00:51:48.099 --> 00:51:50.000
would you take me down? I'd love to grab a handful
00:51:50.000 --> 00:51:54.039
of sand. So the angel dips down and she grabs
00:51:54.039 --> 00:51:56.260
a handful of sand. And the next thing she's hearing
00:51:56.260 --> 00:52:00.800
is, Sister Confidence, Sister Confidence, wake
00:52:00.800 --> 00:52:03.619
up, wake up. Are you OK? You're sleeping so late
00:52:03.619 --> 00:52:07.230
today. And it was her coworker. And so she says,
00:52:07.349 --> 00:52:09.250
oh, come in, dear. I was just having the most
00:52:09.250 --> 00:52:12.610
wonderful dream about the angel taking me to
00:52:12.610 --> 00:52:14.730
the Philippines. And I ministered. And on the
00:52:14.730 --> 00:52:17.989
way back, I asked for the angel to take me down
00:52:17.989 --> 00:52:23.250
and let me get a handful of, and she had a handful
00:52:23.250 --> 00:52:29.150
of sand. Perfect. So, you know, it's real. It's
00:52:29.150 --> 00:52:33.940
absolutely real. That's a handy testimony. What
00:52:33.940 --> 00:52:36.880
about that brother that had the mud on his boots?
00:52:37.000 --> 00:52:40.340
Yes, yes. Was that Mozambique one? No, there
00:52:40.340 --> 00:52:43.559
was a brother that he worked in the oil fields
00:52:43.559 --> 00:52:47.340
in, I suppose, Texas, someplace in that region
00:52:47.340 --> 00:52:49.820
in the States, you know, Texas or Oklahoma someplace.
00:52:50.519 --> 00:52:53.900
And he had just gotten himself ready for bed
00:52:53.900 --> 00:52:57.219
and he'd laid out his clothes for the next day
00:52:57.219 --> 00:53:01.019
and he had just cleaned his boots and he went
00:53:01.019 --> 00:53:04.380
to bed. And he's dreaming that he's in Uganda
00:53:04.380 --> 00:53:08.900
and he's drilling a water well for this village.
00:53:09.599 --> 00:53:12.559
And he comes back in his dream. He comes back.
00:53:12.559 --> 00:53:16.980
He wakes up in the morning and he has mud on
00:53:16.980 --> 00:53:22.460
his boots, red mud. So he had access to one of
00:53:22.460 --> 00:53:27.300
these guys that can analyze the soils. And he
00:53:27.300 --> 00:53:29.619
gives him a sample of the mud. He says, tell
00:53:29.619 --> 00:53:32.440
me where this is from. And so he comes back later.
00:53:32.480 --> 00:53:34.079
The guy says, hey, there's only one place in
00:53:34.079 --> 00:53:36.559
the world that has this exact kind of mud, and
00:53:36.559 --> 00:53:40.699
it's Uganda. What a coincidence. Yeah. Yeah.
00:53:41.659 --> 00:53:46.099
Quite amazing. So this type of thing should be
00:53:46.099 --> 00:53:51.460
expected. Yes. And become a normal Christian
00:53:51.460 --> 00:53:55.500
experience in this hour. Absolutely. Absolutely.
00:53:55.739 --> 00:53:57.780
Even better when you have the understanding of
00:53:57.780 --> 00:54:00.739
the scripture of why this is so. But yeah. That's
00:54:00.739 --> 00:54:03.840
important. This is powerful. Exciting times.
00:54:04.400 --> 00:54:08.079
Amen. Amen. And about to get more exciting. Yes,
00:54:08.079 --> 00:54:11.920
that's right. We're supposed to be going to South
00:54:11.920 --> 00:54:16.199
Africa again in October. So I spent floating
00:54:16.199 --> 00:54:17.940
in my heart, okay, Lord, how are we getting there
00:54:17.940 --> 00:54:21.579
this time? Whichever way he wants to do it, if
00:54:21.579 --> 00:54:23.880
it's long hours on an airplane or instantly,
00:54:24.059 --> 00:54:29.809
but we're right on top of this. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely.
00:54:30.090 --> 00:54:33.510
That reminds me of Pat Holleran was one of these
00:54:33.510 --> 00:54:35.929
guys that had these translation experiences pretty
00:54:35.929 --> 00:54:38.449
often. And he and his wife were scheduled to
00:54:38.449 --> 00:54:43.050
fly to Germany on a certain day. And like the
00:54:43.050 --> 00:54:46.289
day before or maybe two days before they were
00:54:46.289 --> 00:54:49.929
scheduled to fly, he's in prayer and he finds
00:54:49.929 --> 00:54:51.949
himself in Germany and he's talking with the
00:54:51.949 --> 00:54:53.909
people there in Germany. They see him, they're
00:54:53.909 --> 00:54:57.510
talking together. And so he was in a dilemma.
00:54:57.510 --> 00:55:00.130
Do I just stay here and let my wife bring the
00:55:00.130 --> 00:55:04.070
luggage or do I go back and get it and fly with
00:55:04.070 --> 00:55:08.010
her? I think he did come back and do the normal
00:55:08.010 --> 00:55:12.889
thing. I mean, normal as far as the world goes.
00:55:14.959 --> 00:55:17.320
The typical airline. Because otherwise, how would
00:55:17.320 --> 00:55:20.099
he have a stamp in his passport, right? Yeah.
00:55:20.880 --> 00:55:24.239
You know, I've often pondered, you know, okay,
00:55:24.280 --> 00:55:27.539
I go over there, I'm on video, they see me, and
00:55:27.539 --> 00:55:31.440
then I'm back home, and I say, how'd you do that?
00:55:32.039 --> 00:55:34.880
Yeah. Just tell them. Yeah, funny you should
00:55:34.880 --> 00:55:39.880
mention. Exactly, exactly. Well, I just love
00:55:39.880 --> 00:55:42.639
what God is doing, and we can look for that to
00:55:42.639 --> 00:55:45.320
increase and increase and increase. And I just
00:55:45.320 --> 00:55:49.659
want to say thank you, Bruce, for bringing this
00:55:49.659 --> 00:55:52.079
to the body, that the Holy Spirit challenged
00:55:52.079 --> 00:55:54.780
you, and you stood up to the challenge, and you
00:55:54.780 --> 00:55:57.079
studied it, and you learned it, and you've practiced
00:55:57.079 --> 00:56:01.460
walking with the Lord to receive more and more
00:56:01.460 --> 00:56:04.280
revelation to be able to teach it. So I just
00:56:04.280 --> 00:56:06.440
want to say thank you on behalf of the body of
00:56:06.440 --> 00:56:09.519
Christ for having persevered in this, because
00:56:09.519 --> 00:56:13.619
it's not easy. And, you know, you kind of tossed
00:56:13.619 --> 00:56:15.920
it off about persecution, but I'm sure you've
00:56:15.920 --> 00:56:18.840
had plenty. So do you have any final thoughts
00:56:18.840 --> 00:56:23.019
to share? I think we need to stretch our faith.
00:56:24.179 --> 00:56:25.840
Reshma and I have talked about this many times,
00:56:25.920 --> 00:56:29.820
doing this together frequently. You know, you
00:56:29.820 --> 00:56:35.349
start out, how do I? instead of how do we? And
00:56:35.349 --> 00:56:37.809
the pattern that Jesus had is, like I said, he
00:56:37.809 --> 00:56:40.730
stepped in the boat, they all went at once. Yes.
00:56:40.889 --> 00:56:42.849
I think we're in that season. We're going to
00:56:42.849 --> 00:56:46.929
need that for quite a few things. Bringing people
00:56:46.929 --> 00:56:50.570
out of difficult situations, taking people in
00:56:50.570 --> 00:56:57.090
to help in situations. So expand the tent pegs.
00:56:57.510 --> 00:57:00.469
Amen. It's time to believe largely instead of
00:57:00.469 --> 00:57:07.110
focus on your own little Amen. Amen. That's a
00:57:07.110 --> 00:57:08.989
good word. Reshma, would you close in prayer
00:57:08.989 --> 00:57:13.730
for us? Yes, I would. Lord, we thank you for
00:57:13.730 --> 00:57:16.469
this time that you gave us, Lord, to get together
00:57:16.469 --> 00:57:19.869
and just feast on your word and talk about. the
00:57:19.869 --> 00:57:21.869
great things that you are doing among us, Lord.
00:57:22.289 --> 00:57:24.889
In the hour, the seasons that we live in, Father,
00:57:24.949 --> 00:57:28.130
I pray that you will open our eyes in a greater
00:57:28.130 --> 00:57:30.469
measure, our ears and our heart to comprehend
00:57:30.469 --> 00:57:33.349
the truth of your word. And Lord, also protect
00:57:33.349 --> 00:57:35.989
us from deception, that you will give us a spirit
00:57:35.989 --> 00:57:38.590
of discernment in this hour, Lord God. I thank
00:57:38.590 --> 00:57:41.289
you. And Lord, we pray for all those who are
00:57:41.289 --> 00:57:44.510
listening, that, Lord, you will bless them, you
00:57:44.510 --> 00:57:46.789
will lead them and guide them in this hour, Lord,
00:57:46.829 --> 00:57:49.699
those who are making decisions. to come, Lord
00:57:49.699 --> 00:57:52.159
God, that you will make a way for them to be
00:57:52.159 --> 00:57:54.980
able to come to this school, Lord God. What a
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great week, Lord, we have with you. And prepare
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their hearts, Lord. And bless Cheryl, Lord God,
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and Philip, Lord God, for their ministry and
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opening up their home and opening up their lives,
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Lord God, to make this happen, Lord. And we just
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speak your blessing and we thank you for this
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time. Lord, lead us and guide us all by your
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Holy Spirit. In Jesus' name. Amen. Amen. And
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I just want to remind everyone that, you know,
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I mentioned one book that Dr. Bruce has written.
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But how many books have you written now? You've
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got quite a few. Six, seven, eight, something
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like that. Okay. And then Reshma, you've just
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written a new book. You teach discernment in
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this class. Give us a quick overview. Okay, so
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I finished a book on discernment that I've been
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working on for a long time. And God laid that
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message in my heart, the times and season we
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live in. There is so much deception in the church
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and outside of the church and people of God being
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able to discern. So in this book, what God had...
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given me on discernment and also life stories,
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testimonies of what we have experienced concerning
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discernment and how God helped us and different
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testimonies. It's pretty amazing. So I am really
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excited about it, what God is doing with it.
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I will bring some with me to the school. And
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I believe with all of my heart that it is such
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an important message right now, being able to
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discern. And we have been talking about supernatural
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things of God. And we teach very strongly what
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God has laid in the Word of God about being able
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to discern and discern right and wrong, good
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and evil, false prophets, false teachers, false
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visions, false... angels that visit and also
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from his kingdom. We got to be able to tell the
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difference. And I believe it's very important
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because our world is full of supernatural stories
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and the church is full of it. And I believe...
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Church is full. Well, we see it everywhere. People,
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you know, having visions, dreams, seeing, going
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and all that. And are we able to tell if it is
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from God or not? So that's basically what the
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book is about. Beautiful. That's great. So how
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do people get your books? They can get it through
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our ministry and also on Amazon. Okay. And what's
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your website? Stillwatersinternationalmissions
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.com. And also I think so Barnes & Noble are
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going to carry it. On 23rd, actually, in my local
01:00:47.360 --> 01:00:49.900
area, Barnes & Noble is having a book signing
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with me. Congratulations. That's great. Wonderful.
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Okay. We're delighted to have had you with us
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and we're looking forward to having you with
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us in person in September. And again, the dates
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are September 7th through 12th, 2026. And we
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just encourage you. listener, viewer, to go to
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our website, globaloutpouring .net or .org. Either
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one will get you there. And go to the Events
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tab and click on the School of the Supernatural
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Translation by Faith. You get all the details
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