Aug. 23, 2016
Steve Strang's Interview with Trump
How will Trump make America great again? Listen as host Steve Strang was given the opportunity to interview the presidential candidate Donald Trump.
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Welcome to the Strang Report with Steve Strang on the Charisma Podcast Network.
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This episode was produced to discuss and address issues within our nation and around the world
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from a Christian worldview.
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Hello I'm Steve Strang and welcome to this very special edition of the Strang Report.
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Today I'm interviewing the man I believe will be the 45th President of the United States, Donald Trump.
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This was a scoop for us. We're going to publish the interview in Charisma Magazine,
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but we're giving it to our podcast listeners first. I have in the studio with me Dr. Steve Green
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who went with me to the interview and we're going to talk about kind of the behind-the-scenes things
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Welcome back and welcome to Dr. Steve Green. You do your own podcast. You're well known to our listeners
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and I'm glad to have you here and I was glad to have you with me on the interview and I thought it
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would just be interesting as we set this up that we tell our listeners a little bit about what happened
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and our own feelings about it. Well thank you Steve. It was really great for me to be with such a big
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deal guy like you to be able to get into an interview with Donald Trump. I mean we went into
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that interview for our listeners. We had a private interview with Donald Trump and the only people in
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the room with us are these four great big old guys that were standing in the corners they're
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about eight foot tall and seven foot wide shoulders and it was an experience just to watch them watch
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us and of course I watched Donald Trump as Steve was interviewing him and it was just an amazing
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experience to see how gentle and kind and listening Donald Trump was. He was not that aggressive
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take the podium and screaming everybody. He was listening to Steve's questions and I thought he
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gave thoughtful answers. He did and I've had the privilege of interviewing three U.S. presidents
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George H.W. Bush. I actually met with him at the White House. It was a group setting then I
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interviewed George W. Bush with six other Christian journalists. It was a little bit more like a
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press conference except that we were around the table in one of these historic rooms in the White
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House. I was so nervous I didn't even remember the name of the room and we each could ask one
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question and then I was able to interview Barack Obama. Wait a minute what's your question we all
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want to know what was the one question you asked you remember. Well I had a whole list of questions
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and we all had to kind of jump in a little bit like a press conference and I remember thinking
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that person just asked my question. That person just asked my question. That hurts. And you know
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I would have to go back and pull that out of the archives to see what question I did ask because
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our story that we did about it was about the whole interview and what was going on at the time.
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But I very clearly remember this that before I asked the question I said Mr. President I want
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you to know that I pray for you every day and he stopped and he said I really appreciate that. He
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said when I work the rope line you know which is where there's a rope and there's the public and
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they shake hands. He said people are saying that to me more and more and he said I really appreciate
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that. And then I went on a great memory and asked my question which I admit I can't remember right
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now. But contrast to that to my interview with Barack Obama where it was a group setting with
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probably about 40 Christian leaders not everyone got to ask a question. I jumped in and I asked him
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the only difficult question of the day and I very clearly remember it. I said Mr. President the group
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of people that I write for are very conservative Christians and almost everyone is against abortion.
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So how do I explain to them your position on abortion? And he gave me kind of his answer
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that I read in his book. Really? He said that abortion is never preferred. We need to try to
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avoid abortion and we need to take care of the children that are born and blah blah blah.
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However I was never invited again to any meetings with Barack Obama. That's right. And contrast
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that to our interview with Donald Trump which we started in June to try to get this interview.
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We decided that we should write about the campaign as we have on every campaign since 1984. We've
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written about them. I was able to get a very short phone interview with John McCain. The John
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McCain people did not even really reach out to the Christian community very much. It was not an
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interview really worth talking about. For some reason they felt some obligation to give us a
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few minutes on the telephone. With this one I told them that we would go anywhere. We would submit
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our questions in advance and so forth. I was expecting to have to go up to New York and interview him.
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I thought I'd really do it at Trump Towers. We were told fairly early that they would grant an
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interview but then we could never nail them down on when. And then they suggested that we interview
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Mike Pence which we want to do after he was selected as a running mate. But we said we've
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got to have an interview with Donald Trump if we're going to put his picture on the cover of
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Christmas magazine. Which we are. And in October we're going to print a slightly edited version
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of this interview that our listeners are going to hear in just a minute. Now we edited it not
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to change any meaning but to just clean it up and there were some redundancies where he would make
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the same statement twice and we took that out. In fact today I was actually working on that so
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it was fresh in my mind. But we had 10 minutes. It was here in Orlando. He spoke to a group of about
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500 pastors and they arranged two interviews afterwards. CBN had an interview before us.
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Then they left and then as you just said we had him to ourselves. He was remarkably gracious.
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He seemed to listen. He showed respect. He went to get himself a bottle of water I guess. And he
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asked me if I wanted something which you don't expect with the stereotype of Donald Trump.
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And he asked me if I wanted to take a picture with him. That's right. Us. All of us did this
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together. That's amazing. He never felt too busy. I never at any time in the interview thought he
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was trying to truncate to get you out of the room. He's actually once said okay if you're
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finished I'm in. He was fine with it. He wanted to talk to you. I had a very nice podcast recorder
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and I must have been nervous although in a way I wasn't nervous but you know I was
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preoccupied about my questions. You have to push a couple of buttons and I pushed all but the last
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one and found that my recording did not happen. However we made a backup recording and we made
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a little video. All guys do backup plans. We forget stuff. I have learned to do backup plans
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and so what you're going to hear is the interview on an iPhone. It's not as good a quality but you
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can listen to it and we're going to play it for you now unedited. And then afterwards Dr. Steve
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Green and I will talk about a little bit more behind the scenes things with what happened with
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Donald Trump and how we're going to use it. Enjoy this interview. I think you'll find that Steve
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did a great job with his questions and listen to the calm that our future president is giving
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in his answers to Steve String. You're going to enjoy this. So first question is evangelicals
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and Catholics have been under attack from the Obama administration for their pro-life convictions
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and desire to be left alone to enforce government acceptance of that which violates their biblical
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views on marriage. How can you reassure them that you will respect religious liberty for them? Well
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I think that you know I even mentioned in my speech that religious liberty is is the foundation
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without religious liberty you don't have liberty and I feel that so strong and so many other people
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do except they don't express it and plenty of politicians do but they don't express it. So
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religious liberty is something that I find that I cherish and you will never be disappointed.
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And when you met with evangelical leaders of course I wrote this report to you. Right.
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You said that you would support repealing the Johnson and then so churches and ministries
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can maintain tax exemption. That's right. Without giving us a freedoms. How will you do it? Well
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I'll start it very early on. I'm actually starting it if you wanted to. I started it already because
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I put it in the platform. You know it's in the platform. A lot of people didn't even know what
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it was and that I put it in the platform and now a lot of the pastors and ministers have seen it
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and they can't even believe it because how this happened in the first place is shocking how they
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were able to take it away. So it's not something that was written from the beginning and you know
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this is something that was written by a very strong politician. That's all it is. But it makes
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it silences great people. It silences people that we want to hear. They're afraid to open
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their they're afraid to talk about anybody because they can lose everything. You know can lose everything
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with this. And we will I will do if I win one of the first things I will do is lobby very strongly
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to have this terminated and I will tell you something it won't be hard because your lobby is
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so powerful. So even Democrats are going to approve it because this is bigger than men
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bigger than women in terms of numbers of people. So I'll be able to get it done. I have absolute
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confidence that I'll be able to get it done. You've been lied for the very strong bond with your adult
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children. Why does it spend the secret that you have such a close relationship with your children
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and they're very obvious respect for you? Well I worked very hard when it came to my children
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and one of the things that I would tell them all the time is no drugs very important no cigarettes.
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I also tell them no cigarettes but no drugs no alcohol no cigarettes and I would say that to
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a point where they would go you know every time I did go out or see them and say no drugs no alcohol
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no cigarettes. And you know I have friends I have very small children but their children are hooked
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on drugs or they hooked on alcohol. I had cigarettes because of the health fat because it's just
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easier if you don't smoke. I was lucky enough not to smoke if I did smoke I mean I have friends
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I can't get off and they're strong people. But if you've never started it's not a problem. Same
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thing with drugs same thing with alcohol if you've never started it's not a problem. And that's a
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big fact I mean the fact that they're not hooked and you know hopefully right and you never know
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what's a fragile world so who knows what happens but I would always talk about drugs alcohol and
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to a lesser extent cigarettes. As president who will you reach out to for spiritual counsel and
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why do you feel that president meet God's wisdom and guidance? Well I have many I have so many
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friends including Paula White who's here but I have many friends within the community and some
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of the people who are in there today but one of them who's been so incredible is Franklin Graham.
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Franklin Graham has been I mean he's been amazing he's been really terrific.
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Silver close to Franklin Pastor Jeffers has been terrific. Paula White has been incredible.
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So many so many and I will I really like to stay with people that have been so loyal because they
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were here at the beginning where this was a very very little tiny flame and they were here when
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everyone was saying well you can't be actually 70 because actually the real level was 18 originally
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off the record if you include Gilmore. If you include Gilmore but you know how do you beat 16
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seasoned politicians because there were 17 total but how do you beat 16 seasoned politicians and
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in the case of Ben Carson who's a terrific guy who endorsed us and Carly but how do you beat
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you know these tremendously talented people and so they were there at the beginning I guess
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something nice about people that were there at the beginning. You've already said these
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support Israel's claims of Jerusalem as a capital. Yes many evangelical Christians are very strong
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supporters of Israel. How will your policies toward Israel differ from your opponent? Well for
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one thing I support Israel. I don't think I think I don't think Obama supports Israel. I think it's
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the worst thing that's ever happened to Israel. The Iran deal is a disaster for Israel and I'm
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very supportive of Israel. I have tremendous friendships in Israel. I have a son-in-law who's
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Jewish and a daughter. I have a daughter who's Jewish so I will be very strongly in favor of Israel.
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In the book of Deuteronomy in the Old Testament it says to be kind to the stranger in the land.
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How would that scripture guide your policy and immigration? Well I think that's good but we
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have to be careful at the same time. We're allowing people to come into the country. We don't know
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anything about them. There's no paperwork. There's no documentation. You see what's going on in
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Germany and France and many other places where they had an open door policy essentially and it's
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going to go on here too. I mean we've allowed thousands and thousands of people into a country
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who have no idea who they are. At the same time we want to build safe havens. We want to build safe
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havens and we're going to get the Gulf States to fund that money because it's a tremendous amount
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of money and this country doesn't have it. So we want to take care of people but we can't allow them
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in because we just don't know. You see what happened in Saint Bernardino. You see what happened in
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Orlando right here. You see what happened with the World Trade Center. We can look at all over
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the world and look at what's going on in France, Nice, Germany. We just can't. We have enough
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problems so we can't do that. You know you talked about the rough and tumble campaign, the 17
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candidates and so forth and you have went over the evangelical vote and you've changed a lot.
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How has this whole process affected you spiritually? Well I can tell you I've always been spiritual but
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I really appreciate evangelicals because they really supported me. You know when somebody
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supports you you feel pretty good about and I'd go into a very evangelical state and people would
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say oh gee I won't win that state and I ended up winning in a landslide because I had tremendous
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support. You see the polls where people are leading they supported Trump over other people that
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in theory they could have supported very easily and they didn't. So I think the fact that I had that
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tremendous support from the evangelicals meant a lot to me and it will mean a lot to me in the future.
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You know before you spoke they had a speaker talking about Judeo-Christian values in the
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founding of the nation and so forth. In our secular society a lot of people discount that.
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Do you believe that America was founded on Judeo-Christian principles?
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Yeah I think it was. I think to a large extent when I look at football coaches being fired
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because they held a prayer on the field like yesterday I think it's absolutely terrible.
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I think it's a terrible thing. I see so many things happening that are so different from what
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our country used to be. So now religion is a very important part of me and it's also I think it's
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a very important part of our country. Final question what is the most important thing in your life?
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Well you know you always have to say family. It's family is the most important thing from that
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standpoint. Religion is very important but I assume you're not talking about religion or family
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but you know those two things are very important. Belief is very important.
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But you would always have to put family number one.
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And then give us some advice as we tell your story and persuade people like you're encouraging
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that crowd except instead of a church you know we'll be speaking to hundreds of thousands and
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several millions. Well I'm going to get the job done. I'm going to do a great job for religion
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and for the evangelicals. I'm going to do a great job and that's why we got a standing ovation from
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pastors who don't give much of standing ovation. Just to state if a lot of people speak.
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So that was a great honor but I will do a great job. I will get the job done
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and I'll get it done properly and there will be a great thing for the evangelicals.
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Well I hope you enjoyed that interview. You know actually I have put the video of it
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that was on Facebook live on our website. It's already been out. It's been very interesting
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to read the comments. We decided to put it on a podcast to get the word out and it is an exclusive
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for us and we're going to be very glad to have it in print where it's a little more permanent
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and I want the readers to see it in our October issue where it's part of a package.
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We have several other articles that we're putting together to make the case for how Donald Trump
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should be the next president of the United States. I interviewed Ted Cruz on my podcast
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before the very first primary and I endorsed him for president. He was my first choice
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but the very day he dropped out of the race I switched over to Donald Trump and I'll admit
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that I've really warmed up to him as I've gotten to know him. He seems to be interested in Christian
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things. Christian principles are important to him. He says he's going to support as you just heard
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religious liberty. He's going to try to repeal what's called the Johnson amendment. I think that
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is significant. I know of no other president or even political candidate that has said that he would
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get rid of this which is really gagging ministers and churches from being involved in the political
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process. Actually Matt Staver the head of the Liberty Council who of course is an attorney
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says that no church has lost their tax except status except one who lost it for one day where
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they really did something pretty grievous and what it is is that a church itself cannot endorse
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but a pastor can endorse himself. He can say I'm your shepherd. I try to help you get through life
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and make right decisions and wrong decisions. I'm going to share with you what I'm going to do as a
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private citizen to vote my convictions and you can make your own decisions but I'm going to support
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this candidate or that candidate. That is perfectly legal but a lot of pastors don't know that and they
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just say oh we need to stay away from it entirely. In fact right after the interview as you know I
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came back to our office where we had a meet and greet for a Christian leader in our area. It was
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already planned and I was concerned I was going to have to leave it but I came back and I was
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talking about it and how I was endorsing Donald Trump and so forth and one of the ministers said
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oh you are so bold to speak about politics and I said well first of all we don't have a 501
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C3 ministry even though we consider what we do in ministry. We pay lots of taxes. We pay lots of
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taxes and I consider it paying rent to live in America. You know I'm very philosophical about
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it but I've endorsed someone for president every year since 1984 and we've spoken up about a lot
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of political things over the years but yet this pastor who is at reception in my own headquarters
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talking at a private setting with no other media there. We weren't recording it. I thought that somehow
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I was stepping into territory that I shouldn't have so I think that just goes to show you the
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mindset that too many ministers and pastors have. A lot of fear for the government. I want to add
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one thing to your comments before we run out of time and that's how he spoke of his children.
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You know I've always said that I would rather see a man's children than his resume. I can learn so
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much about the parent by the quality of the children and of course many of us have watched his
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children and have seen such amazing work out of them. We respect him. You asked him that question
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about what were the things he said to his children. What did he expect and you heard his answers and
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when he focused on the things that they shouldn't do they sounded like middle America. You know get
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home on time. Don't smoke. Don't drink. Don't take drugs and he just repeated it over and over again.
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He said they got sick hearing it. I said it so much. I respect a man who cared so much about his
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family that he set rules that children of means like that of the wealth that they grew up with
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could have been in all those things and frequently are. So I have amazing respect for him and I know
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he picks good leaders. I've been supporting of him right from the beginning because I know
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that he'll select good people and we'll have a good administration. Well I'll say one more thing
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before we wrap this up. You know I put some things about Donald Trump on my own Facebook page and I
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go in and I look at people's comments and this one lady posted a column that she wrote on the
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Huffington Post and so I clicked on it and I read it and she said you know the Bible says that you
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need to be kind and soft spoken and this and that and this and that and Donald Trump is anything but
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that and she went on and on and actually she made some pretty good points about what Christians
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should do and not do but I replied to her and I said you know what what you say is true but I said
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you're picking a speck out of Donald Trump's eye and I didn't even say a log. I said a forest
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out of Hillary Clinton's eye starting with where she stands on the issues. How can you ignore that?
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You can't ignore it and then on top of it is the lying about the emails, the whole mess in
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Benghazi. I don't even know how to articulate her own foundation. I mean just in the news today
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is that the foundation if she's elected president will quit taking donations from foreign governments
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and from corporations. I mean that's admitting that is a conflict of interest or has the appearance
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of the conflict of interest and it's been happening again and again and again even though she was
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questioned about this before she became secretary of state and gave assurances that this would not
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happen but it's happened and it's not only speculation but there's proof with some of these
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emails that have come out and so I think that people need to not just go based on personality.
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You know we all had an opinion of Donald Trump before he ever ran for office. You know we saw
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him on reality TV. He was in the news all the time. They called him the Donald, remember? Yes.
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You know he makes his money in casinos. I mean we could go right down the list but God has used
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other people to be change agents at critical times in history and I dare say that most of the people
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listening to this podcast and reading our magazine believe that we are in dire, dire straits and not
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only that but if Hillary Clinton is elected it's going to get worse and I believe that God has raised
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up a man who is strong enough to stand against the tide and to try to at least change some things
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in the right direction. This is an extremely important election and I encourage people not
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only to vote but help us get out the vote and to forward this podcast to people and encourage people
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to read the stuff that is on our website. Of course there's a lot of other good stuff too.
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We're just trying to do our best to get out the word and after looking at all the issues and
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examining things and interviewing Donald Trump himself we have come to the conclusion that
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this is the right thing to do. We are not a part of his campaign. Nobody's paid us anything.
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Nobody's twisted our arm to do anything. We're doing it because we believe it deeply and I hope
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that people will take this to heart and I hope that we're able to influence Christians to go out
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and vote. You know there's reason to believe that Mitt Romney would have won had the Christian vote
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gone to the polls but a lot of people were so uncomfortable voting for a Mormon. A Mormon who
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believes in family values and on a lot of the issues agrees with us but he's a Mormon and I
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don't approve of Mormonism any more than any other Christian does but if he had been president I
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doubt that a lot of the things that have happened in the last four years would have happened and
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we have to just believe that this is an important election especially in the swing states Christians
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have to go to the polls and influence their family and friends. We all have a circle of influence
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and if we would all influence our circle of influence at the grassroots level I believe
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that Donald Trump will be the next president the 45th president of the United States. Whatever you do
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would you pray before you go ask the Lord to guide you to give you direction to give you leadership
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of the Holy Spirit as you vote. Steve said the most important thing we can all do is just get
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out the vote. Tell your neighbors shake the dog shake the trees shake something but let's all get
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out there and vote. Well said and with that we'll close and I'll thank you for listening today to
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this edition of the Strang Report on the Charisma Podcast Network. God bless you all.
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Welcome to the Strang Report with Steve Strang on the Charisma Podcast Network.
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Hello I'm Steve Strang and welcome to this very special edition of the Strang Report.
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Today I'm interviewing the man I believe will be the 45th President of the United States, Donald Trump.
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This was a scoop for us. We're going to publish the interview in Charisma Magazine,
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but we're giving it to our podcast listeners first. I have in the studio with me Dr. Steve Green
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who went with me to the interview and we're going to talk about kind of the behind-the-scenes things
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Welcome back and welcome to Dr. Steve Green. You do your own podcast. You're well known to our listeners
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and I'm glad to have you here and I was glad to have you with me on the interview and I thought it
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would just be interesting as we set this up that we tell our listeners a little bit about what happened
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and our own feelings about it. Well thank you Steve. It was really great for me to be with such a big
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deal guy like you to be able to get into an interview with Donald Trump. I mean we went into
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that interview for our listeners. We had a private interview with Donald Trump and the only people in
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the room with us are these four great big old guys that were standing in the corners they're
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about eight foot tall and seven foot wide shoulders and it was an experience just to watch them watch
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us and of course I watched Donald Trump as Steve was interviewing him and it was just an amazing
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experience to see how gentle and kind and listening Donald Trump was. He was not that aggressive
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take the podium and screaming everybody. He was listening to Steve's questions and I thought he
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gave thoughtful answers. He did and I've had the privilege of interviewing three U.S. presidents
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George H.W. Bush. I actually met with him at the White House. It was a group setting then I
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interviewed George W. Bush with six other Christian journalists. It was a little bit more like a
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press conference except that we were around the table in one of these historic rooms in the White
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House. I was so nervous I didn't even remember the name of the room and we each could ask one
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question and then I was able to interview Barack Obama. Wait a minute what's your question we all
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want to know what was the one question you asked you remember. Well I had a whole list of questions
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and we all had to kind of jump in a little bit like a press conference and I remember thinking
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that person just asked my question. That person just asked my question. That hurts. And you know
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I would have to go back and pull that out of the archives to see what question I did ask because
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our story that we did about it was about the whole interview and what was going on at the time.
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But I very clearly remember this that before I asked the question I said Mr. President I want
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you to know that I pray for you every day and he stopped and he said I really appreciate that. He
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said when I work the rope line you know which is where there's a rope and there's the public and
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they shake hands. He said people are saying that to me more and more and he said I really appreciate
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that. And then I went on a great memory and asked my question which I admit I can't remember right
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now. But contrast to that to my interview with Barack Obama where it was a group setting with
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probably about 40 Christian leaders not everyone got to ask a question. I jumped in and I asked him
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the only difficult question of the day and I very clearly remember it. I said Mr. President the group
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of people that I write for are very conservative Christians and almost everyone is against abortion.
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So how do I explain to them your position on abortion? And he gave me kind of his answer
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that I read in his book. Really? He said that abortion is never preferred. We need to try to
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avoid abortion and we need to take care of the children that are born and blah blah blah.
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However I was never invited again to any meetings with Barack Obama. That's right. And contrast
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that to our interview with Donald Trump which we started in June to try to get this interview.
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We decided that we should write about the campaign as we have on every campaign since 1984. We've
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written about them. I was able to get a very short phone interview with John McCain. The John
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McCain people did not even really reach out to the Christian community very much. It was not an
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interview really worth talking about. For some reason they felt some obligation to give us a
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few minutes on the telephone. With this one I told them that we would go anywhere. We would submit
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our questions in advance and so forth. I was expecting to have to go up to New York and interview him.
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I thought I'd really do it at Trump Towers. We were told fairly early that they would grant an
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interview but then we could never nail them down on when. And then they suggested that we interview
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Mike Pence which we want to do after he was selected as a running mate. But we said we've
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got to have an interview with Donald Trump if we're going to put his picture on the cover of
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Christmas magazine. Which we are. And in October we're going to print a slightly edited version
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of this interview that our listeners are going to hear in just a minute. Now we edited it not
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to change any meaning but to just clean it up and there were some redundancies where he would make
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the same statement twice and we took that out. In fact today I was actually working on that so
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it was fresh in my mind. But we had 10 minutes. It was here in Orlando. He spoke to a group of about
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500 pastors and they arranged two interviews afterwards. CBN had an interview before us.
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Then they left and then as you just said we had him to ourselves. He was remarkably gracious.
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He seemed to listen. He showed respect. He went to get himself a bottle of water I guess. And he
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asked me if I wanted something which you don't expect with the stereotype of Donald Trump.
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And he asked me if I wanted to take a picture with him. That's right. Us. All of us did this
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together. That's amazing. He never felt too busy. I never at any time in the interview thought he
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was trying to truncate to get you out of the room. He's actually once said okay if you're
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finished I'm in. He was fine with it. He wanted to talk to you. I had a very nice podcast recorder
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and I must have been nervous although in a way I wasn't nervous but you know I was
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preoccupied about my questions. You have to push a couple of buttons and I pushed all but the last
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one and found that my recording did not happen. However we made a backup recording and we made
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a little video. All guys do backup plans. We forget stuff. I have learned to do backup plans
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and so what you're going to hear is the interview on an iPhone. It's not as good a quality but you
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can listen to it and we're going to play it for you now unedited. And then afterwards Dr. Steve
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Green and I will talk about a little bit more behind the scenes things with what happened with
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Donald Trump and how we're going to use it. Enjoy this interview. I think you'll find that Steve
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did a great job with his questions and listen to the calm that our future president is giving
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in his answers to Steve String. You're going to enjoy this. So first question is evangelicals
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and Catholics have been under attack from the Obama administration for their pro-life convictions
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and desire to be left alone to enforce government acceptance of that which violates their biblical
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views on marriage. How can you reassure them that you will respect religious liberty for them? Well
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I think that you know I even mentioned in my speech that religious liberty is is the foundation
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without religious liberty you don't have liberty and I feel that so strong and so many other people
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do except they don't express it and plenty of politicians do but they don't express it. So
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religious liberty is something that I find that I cherish and you will never be disappointed.
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And when you met with evangelical leaders of course I wrote this report to you. Right.
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You said that you would support repealing the Johnson and then so churches and ministries
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can maintain tax exemption. That's right. Without giving us a freedoms. How will you do it? Well
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I'll start it very early on. I'm actually starting it if you wanted to. I started it already because
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I put it in the platform. You know it's in the platform. A lot of people didn't even know what
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it was and that I put it in the platform and now a lot of the pastors and ministers have seen it
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and they can't even believe it because how this happened in the first place is shocking how they
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were able to take it away. So it's not something that was written from the beginning and you know
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this is something that was written by a very strong politician. That's all it is. But it makes
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it silences great people. It silences people that we want to hear. They're afraid to open
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their they're afraid to talk about anybody because they can lose everything. You know can lose everything
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with this. And we will I will do if I win one of the first things I will do is lobby very strongly
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to have this terminated and I will tell you something it won't be hard because your lobby is
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so powerful. So even Democrats are going to approve it because this is bigger than men
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bigger than women in terms of numbers of people. So I'll be able to get it done. I have absolute
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confidence that I'll be able to get it done. You've been lied for the very strong bond with your adult
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children. Why does it spend the secret that you have such a close relationship with your children
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and they're very obvious respect for you? Well I worked very hard when it came to my children
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and one of the things that I would tell them all the time is no drugs very important no cigarettes.
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I also tell them no cigarettes but no drugs no alcohol no cigarettes and I would say that to
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a point where they would go you know every time I did go out or see them and say no drugs no alcohol
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no cigarettes. And you know I have friends I have very small children but their children are hooked
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on drugs or they hooked on alcohol. I had cigarettes because of the health fat because it's just
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easier if you don't smoke. I was lucky enough not to smoke if I did smoke I mean I have friends
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I can't get off and they're strong people. But if you've never started it's not a problem. Same
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thing with drugs same thing with alcohol if you've never started it's not a problem. And that's a
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big fact I mean the fact that they're not hooked and you know hopefully right and you never know
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what's a fragile world so who knows what happens but I would always talk about drugs alcohol and
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to a lesser extent cigarettes. As president who will you reach out to for spiritual counsel and
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why do you feel that president meet God's wisdom and guidance? Well I have many I have so many
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friends including Paula White who's here but I have many friends within the community and some
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of the people who are in there today but one of them who's been so incredible is Franklin Graham.
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Franklin Graham has been I mean he's been amazing he's been really terrific.
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Silver close to Franklin Pastor Jeffers has been terrific. Paula White has been incredible.
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So many so many and I will I really like to stay with people that have been so loyal because they
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were here at the beginning where this was a very very little tiny flame and they were here when
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everyone was saying well you can't be actually 70 because actually the real level was 18 originally
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off the record if you include Gilmore. If you include Gilmore but you know how do you beat 16
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seasoned politicians because there were 17 total but how do you beat 16 seasoned politicians and
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in the case of Ben Carson who's a terrific guy who endorsed us and Carly but how do you beat
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you know these tremendously talented people and so they were there at the beginning I guess
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something nice about people that were there at the beginning. You've already said these
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support Israel's claims of Jerusalem as a capital. Yes many evangelical Christians are very strong
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supporters of Israel. How will your policies toward Israel differ from your opponent? Well for
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one thing I support Israel. I don't think I think I don't think Obama supports Israel. I think it's
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the worst thing that's ever happened to Israel. The Iran deal is a disaster for Israel and I'm
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very supportive of Israel. I have tremendous friendships in Israel. I have a son-in-law who's
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Jewish and a daughter. I have a daughter who's Jewish so I will be very strongly in favor of Israel.
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In the book of Deuteronomy in the Old Testament it says to be kind to the stranger in the land.
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How would that scripture guide your policy and immigration? Well I think that's good but we
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have to be careful at the same time. We're allowing people to come into the country. We don't know
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anything about them. There's no paperwork. There's no documentation. You see what's going on in
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Germany and France and many other places where they had an open door policy essentially and it's
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going to go on here too. I mean we've allowed thousands and thousands of people into a country
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who have no idea who they are. At the same time we want to build safe havens. We want to build safe
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havens and we're going to get the Gulf States to fund that money because it's a tremendous amount
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of money and this country doesn't have it. So we want to take care of people but we can't allow them
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in because we just don't know. You see what happened in Saint Bernardino. You see what happened in
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Orlando right here. You see what happened with the World Trade Center. We can look at all over
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the world and look at what's going on in France, Nice, Germany. We just can't. We have enough
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problems so we can't do that. You know you talked about the rough and tumble campaign, the 17
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candidates and so forth and you have went over the evangelical vote and you've changed a lot.
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How has this whole process affected you spiritually? Well I can tell you I've always been spiritual but
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I really appreciate evangelicals because they really supported me. You know when somebody
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supports you you feel pretty good about and I'd go into a very evangelical state and people would
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say oh gee I won't win that state and I ended up winning in a landslide because I had tremendous
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support. You see the polls where people are leading they supported Trump over other people that
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in theory they could have supported very easily and they didn't. So I think the fact that I had that
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tremendous support from the evangelicals meant a lot to me and it will mean a lot to me in the future.
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You know before you spoke they had a speaker talking about Judeo-Christian values in the
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founding of the nation and so forth. In our secular society a lot of people discount that.
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Do you believe that America was founded on Judeo-Christian principles?
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Yeah I think it was. I think to a large extent when I look at football coaches being fired
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because they held a prayer on the field like yesterday I think it's absolutely terrible.
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I think it's a terrible thing. I see so many things happening that are so different from what
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our country used to be. So now religion is a very important part of me and it's also I think it's
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a very important part of our country. Final question what is the most important thing in your life?
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Well you know you always have to say family. It's family is the most important thing from that
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standpoint. Religion is very important but I assume you're not talking about religion or family
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but you know those two things are very important. Belief is very important.
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But you would always have to put family number one.
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And then give us some advice as we tell your story and persuade people like you're encouraging
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that crowd except instead of a church you know we'll be speaking to hundreds of thousands and
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several millions. Well I'm going to get the job done. I'm going to do a great job for religion
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and for the evangelicals. I'm going to do a great job and that's why we got a standing ovation from
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pastors who don't give much of standing ovation. Just to state if a lot of people speak.
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So that was a great honor but I will do a great job. I will get the job done
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and I'll get it done properly and there will be a great thing for the evangelicals.
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Well I hope you enjoyed that interview. You know actually I have put the video of it
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that was on Facebook live on our website. It's already been out. It's been very interesting
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to read the comments. We decided to put it on a podcast to get the word out and it is an exclusive
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for us and we're going to be very glad to have it in print where it's a little more permanent
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and I want the readers to see it in our October issue where it's part of a package.
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We have several other articles that we're putting together to make the case for how Donald Trump
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should be the next president of the United States. I interviewed Ted Cruz on my podcast
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before the very first primary and I endorsed him for president. He was my first choice
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but the very day he dropped out of the race I switched over to Donald Trump and I'll admit
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that I've really warmed up to him as I've gotten to know him. He seems to be interested in Christian
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things. Christian principles are important to him. He says he's going to support as you just heard
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religious liberty. He's going to try to repeal what's called the Johnson amendment. I think that
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is significant. I know of no other president or even political candidate that has said that he would
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get rid of this which is really gagging ministers and churches from being involved in the political
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process. Actually Matt Staver the head of the Liberty Council who of course is an attorney
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says that no church has lost their tax except status except one who lost it for one day where
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they really did something pretty grievous and what it is is that a church itself cannot endorse
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but a pastor can endorse himself. He can say I'm your shepherd. I try to help you get through life
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and make right decisions and wrong decisions. I'm going to share with you what I'm going to do as a
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private citizen to vote my convictions and you can make your own decisions but I'm going to support
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this candidate or that candidate. That is perfectly legal but a lot of pastors don't know that and they
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just say oh we need to stay away from it entirely. In fact right after the interview as you know I
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came back to our office where we had a meet and greet for a Christian leader in our area. It was
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already planned and I was concerned I was going to have to leave it but I came back and I was
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talking about it and how I was endorsing Donald Trump and so forth and one of the ministers said
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oh you are so bold to speak about politics and I said well first of all we don't have a 501
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C3 ministry even though we consider what we do in ministry. We pay lots of taxes. We pay lots of
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taxes and I consider it paying rent to live in America. You know I'm very philosophical about
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it but I've endorsed someone for president every year since 1984 and we've spoken up about a lot
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of political things over the years but yet this pastor who is at reception in my own headquarters
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talking at a private setting with no other media there. We weren't recording it. I thought that somehow
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I was stepping into territory that I shouldn't have so I think that just goes to show you the
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mindset that too many ministers and pastors have. A lot of fear for the government. I want to add
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one thing to your comments before we run out of time and that's how he spoke of his children.
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You know I've always said that I would rather see a man's children than his resume. I can learn so
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much about the parent by the quality of the children and of course many of us have watched his
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children and have seen such amazing work out of them. We respect him. You asked him that question
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about what were the things he said to his children. What did he expect and you heard his answers and
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when he focused on the things that they shouldn't do they sounded like middle America. You know get
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home on time. Don't smoke. Don't drink. Don't take drugs and he just repeated it over and over again.
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He said they got sick hearing it. I said it so much. I respect a man who cared so much about his
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family that he set rules that children of means like that of the wealth that they grew up with
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could have been in all those things and frequently are. So I have amazing respect for him and I know
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he picks good leaders. I've been supporting of him right from the beginning because I know
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that he'll select good people and we'll have a good administration. Well I'll say one more thing
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before we wrap this up. You know I put some things about Donald Trump on my own Facebook page and I
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go in and I look at people's comments and this one lady posted a column that she wrote on the
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Huffington Post and so I clicked on it and I read it and she said you know the Bible says that you
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need to be kind and soft spoken and this and that and this and that and Donald Trump is anything but
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that and she went on and on and actually she made some pretty good points about what Christians
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should do and not do but I replied to her and I said you know what what you say is true but I said
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you're picking a speck out of Donald Trump's eye and I didn't even say a log. I said a forest
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out of Hillary Clinton's eye starting with where she stands on the issues. How can you ignore that?
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You can't ignore it and then on top of it is the lying about the emails, the whole mess in
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Benghazi. I don't even know how to articulate her own foundation. I mean just in the news today
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is that the foundation if she's elected president will quit taking donations from foreign governments
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and from corporations. I mean that's admitting that is a conflict of interest or has the appearance
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of the conflict of interest and it's been happening again and again and again even though she was
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questioned about this before she became secretary of state and gave assurances that this would not
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happen but it's happened and it's not only speculation but there's proof with some of these
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emails that have come out and so I think that people need to not just go based on personality.
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You know we all had an opinion of Donald Trump before he ever ran for office. You know we saw
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him on reality TV. He was in the news all the time. They called him the Donald, remember? Yes.
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You know he makes his money in casinos. I mean we could go right down the list but God has used
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other people to be change agents at critical times in history and I dare say that most of the people
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listening to this podcast and reading our magazine believe that we are in dire, dire straits and not
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only that but if Hillary Clinton is elected it's going to get worse and I believe that God has raised
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up a man who is strong enough to stand against the tide and to try to at least change some things
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in the right direction. This is an extremely important election and I encourage people not
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only to vote but help us get out the vote and to forward this podcast to people and encourage people
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to read the stuff that is on our website. Of course there's a lot of other good stuff too.
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We're just trying to do our best to get out the word and after looking at all the issues and
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examining things and interviewing Donald Trump himself we have come to the conclusion that
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this is the right thing to do. We are not a part of his campaign. Nobody's paid us anything.
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Nobody's twisted our arm to do anything. We're doing it because we believe it deeply and I hope
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that people will take this to heart and I hope that we're able to influence Christians to go out
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and vote. You know there's reason to believe that Mitt Romney would have won had the Christian vote
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gone to the polls but a lot of people were so uncomfortable voting for a Mormon. A Mormon who
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believes in family values and on a lot of the issues agrees with us but he's a Mormon and I
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don't approve of Mormonism any more than any other Christian does but if he had been president I
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doubt that a lot of the things that have happened in the last four years would have happened and
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we have to just believe that this is an important election especially in the swing states Christians
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have to go to the polls and influence their family and friends. We all have a circle of influence
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and if we would all influence our circle of influence at the grassroots level I believe
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that Donald Trump will be the next president the 45th president of the United States. Whatever you do
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would you pray before you go ask the Lord to guide you to give you direction to give you leadership
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of the Holy Spirit as you vote. Steve said the most important thing we can all do is just get
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out the vote. Tell your neighbors shake the dog shake the trees shake something but let's all get
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out there and vote. Well said and with that we'll close and I'll thank you for listening today to
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this edition of the Strang Report on the Charisma Podcast Network. God bless you all.
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