June 15, 2021
At the Very Time God Said (episode 18)
What do pearls and butterflies have in common? They both start out as something simple and not so beautiful and are transformed into something lovely. How does that happen? Time and pressure.
Oh, how we wish our prodigals would return now. How we want them to be changed overnight! And sometimes that happens. Amazing surrender and metamorphosis can happen in a moment or a day or a week. But not usually. Usually it takes both time and pressure.
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Do you love a prodigal? Do you feel like you are lost in a scary and endless wilderness?
2
00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:17,320
Welcome to the When You Love a Prodigal podcast. I am Judy Douglass and I spent more than 15
3
00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:25,380
years in that wilderness. I believe together we will discover help and hope for your journey.
4
00:00:25,380 --> 00:00:33,280
This week we are in our second look at time. We'll be doing that for about four weeks,
5
00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:42,000
talking about time. What do pearls and butterflies have in common? Well, they both start out
6
00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:50,480
as something simple and not so beautiful and are transformed into something lovely. A pearl
7
00:00:50,480 --> 00:00:58,880
begins as a tiny grain of sand and an oyster. Since to the oyster it is an irritant, the
8
00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:05,920
oyster immediately begins to cover the grain with nacre, the same substance its shell is
9
00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:14,320
made from. Over time, because of the pressure experienced by the oyster, layer after layer
10
00:01:14,320 --> 00:01:22,800
of nacre transforms that little grain of sand into a lustrous pearl. Most of us have marveled
11
00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:29,800
at how a caterpillar, an ugly hairy worm-like creature crawling on a tree limb, can become
12
00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:35,960
a lovely butterfly soaring through the sky. Perhaps you have even watched the process
13
00:01:35,960 --> 00:01:43,060
as a school science experiment. My granddaughter recently had five butterflies emerge from
14
00:01:43,060 --> 00:01:49,800
cocoons that I sent her. And you've heard that a butterfly, which has been under pressure
15
00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:56,600
while tightly packed in its chrysalis, must go through the difficult effort to break out
16
00:01:56,600 --> 00:02:03,680
if it is to be able to fly. If you break its chrysalis open, the butterfly will die. They
17
00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:12,360
have to do the hard work to get out. Oh, how we wish our prodigals would return now. How
18
00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:20,040
we want them to be changed overnight. And sometimes that happens. Amazing surrender
19
00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:29,760
and metamorphosis can happen in a moment or a day or a week, but not usually. Usually
20
00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:38,960
it takes both time and pressure. What kind of pressure? Many kinds, actually. One pressure
21
00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:46,000
is that they are sad that they are hurting and disappointing you. That matters more to
22
00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:52,000
them than you would think and that they would acknowledge. Choices that lead to negative
23
00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:59,200
consequences from small to very significant are a huge pressure on them. Depending on
24
00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:07,400
where they are and what's going on, they could be in hunger, in pain, exposure, poverty,
25
00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:14,180
affected. They could have loss of identity. Who am I? Loss of community and even loss
26
00:03:14,180 --> 00:03:21,740
of their family by their own choice. They have loss of hope for a good future, all for
27
00:03:21,740 --> 00:03:29,000
a momentary pleasure or a sense of personal freedom. And they give up all of that. And
28
00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:36,920
time, it takes time for the pain and reality of those losses and the consequences to seek
29
00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:44,400
in. It also takes time for most prodigals to recognize they are not really happy with
30
00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:51,680
their current situation and to start to look for a better approach to life, to begin to
31
00:03:51,680 --> 00:04:00,100
make a turn. Finally, even when the decision to turn is real, it takes time for consequences
32
00:04:00,100 --> 00:04:08,200
to play out, for addictions to be overcome, for habits and patterns to reverse. My son
33
00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:14,400
has even said that he is still experiencing some of the consequences of his bad choices
34
00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:23,320
that he mostly quit making about 10 years ago. Transformation requires both time and
35
00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:30,840
pressure. Sometimes we grow weary under the stress and the seemingly endless pain and
36
00:04:30,840 --> 00:04:39,880
we say, now please, Lord. But our God has given us this word. In Ecclesiastes, he says
37
00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:48,880
that he has made everything beautiful in its time. So just as it takes time to transform
38
00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:57,040
a grain of sand into an exquisite pearl and to change a caterpillar into a lovely butterfly,
39
00:04:57,040 --> 00:05:03,440
so it will take time for our loved ones to be transformed into the beautiful ones God
40
00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:11,480
created them to be. It will take time, but it can happen. And each of us, well, we also
41
00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:20,240
need transforming in small and large places in our lives. That change will also require
42
00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:27,840
time and pressure. And in God's economy, surely our prodigal loved ones are supplying
43
00:05:27,840 --> 00:05:37,040
time and pressure in great amounts for us. And that yields newness in our lives as well.
44
00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:43,080
God is a good steward. He uses what they're doing for them and for us. And he also has
45
00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:51,160
a sense of humor. But usually it's difficult to wait patiently. For many years, every time
46
00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:57,120
my birthday would come around, I'd tell my son what gift I would like from him. It was
47
00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:06,120
always the same gift. All I want for my birthday is for you to surrender your life to Jesus.
48
00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:13,120
There were times he yelled at me in response, I want nothing to do with Jesus. Other times
49
00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:20,760
he didn't acknowledge my requests. Not a no, not a yes, just silence. Occasionally,
50
00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:28,280
he would make some small steps towards surrendering to God, giving me little tokens of hope. But
51
00:06:28,280 --> 00:06:36,320
still I waited for that very special gift, as I am sure you have had to wait. Abraham
52
00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:43,080
and Sarah also waited many years for a very special gift, the birth of their son Isaac.
53
00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:50,680
Think about this. First, there was a promise. Then the word of the Lord came to him, that
54
00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:57,920
is Abram. This man, Abram's sermon, will not be your heir, but a son who is your own
55
00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:04,240
flesh and blood will be your heir. He took him outside and said, look up at the sky and
56
00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:13,140
count stars, if indeed you can count them. And then God said to him, so shall your offspring
57
00:07:13,140 --> 00:07:23,040
be. And Abram began to believe and he waited. But there was a bypass. Sarah just couldn't
58
00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:32,160
keep waiting. Now we read Sarah's, Abram's wife, had born no children, but she had an
59
00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:39,760
Egyptian slave named Hagar. So she said to Abram, the Lord has kept me from having children.
60
00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:47,080
Go sleep with my slave. Perhaps I can build a family through her. This was a common custom
61
00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:55,840
then. But God was committed to his original plan. So there was not a rejection, there
62
00:07:55,840 --> 00:08:03,720
was an affirmation. And he says, is anything too hard for the Lord? I will return to you
63
00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:13,040
at the appointed time next year and Sarah will have a son. And then there was the fulfillment.
64
00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:20,920
Sarah became pregnant and bore a son to Abraham in his old age. And get this, at the very
65
00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:28,440
time God had promised him, so much happens in our lives and in the lives of our prodigals
66
00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:36,400
at the very time that God has ordained. Abraham had a promise. His descendants would outnumber
67
00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:43,440
the grains of sand and the stars in the sky. Yet he had no child, no heir, no tangible
68
00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:51,100
evidence of God's promise. Year after year, he looked for the promise. Time after time,
69
00:08:51,100 --> 00:08:59,440
the impossible did not happen. I've been there waiting for that birthday gift from my son.
70
00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:05,000
Sarah couldn't wait. She took things into her own hands, trying to come up with her
71
00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:11,960
own solution. Uh oh, I've been there too. No, I couldn't make him say I surrender,
72
00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:19,960
but a little manipulation, maybe a small bribe and plenty of demanding prayers. Do it, Lord,
73
00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:28,640
do it my way. I take such encouragement in God's creativity. Yes, pain and disruption
74
00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:37,080
and conflict resulted from Sarah's effort. Then and to this day, we see it. Yet God redeemed
75
00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:45,320
it. He protected Hagar and Ishmael throughout their lives. And in Genesis, we read Hagar
76
00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:54,520
gave us a beautiful understanding with this name of God, Elroy, the God who sees me. And
77
00:09:54,520 --> 00:10:04,280
we have that promise even now that God sees you and sees your prodigal. And he has a plan.
78
00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:10,200
I have thought Abraham and Sarah's efforts, he did participate, would have caused God
79
00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:18,600
himself to take a bypass as well, to go with another approach. But no, God reaffirmed his
80
00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:29,160
original plan. Abraham at 99 and Sarah at 90 would have a son in a year. And it happened
81
00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:37,360
exactly when God planned it to happen. Talk about a birthday celebration. I suppose Isaac
82
00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:44,880
is maybe the longest waited for baby ever. I've had promises about my son. Maybe you
83
00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:52,440
too have had promises about your loved ones. Or maybe you wait and despair and pray and
84
00:10:52,440 --> 00:11:02,360
hope. Repeat, wait and despair and pray and hope. Repeat. Will the time ever come? God
85
00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:10,240
is not bound by time, but he has chosen to operate in time. And it reminds us he will
86
00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:17,200
accomplish his purposes in the lives of our prodigals, our children, spouses, parents,
87
00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:26,000
friends in his perfect way at his perfect time. And he will do the same in your life
88
00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:35,280
and in my life. Let me ask you a couple of questions. Have you, like Sarah, tried to
89
00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:42,520
take things into your own hands? How did it play out? Did it happen the way you wanted
90
00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:51,040
it to? When have you seen God graciously redeem your own efforts and your bypasses and do
91
00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:59,160
his beautiful work in your life as well as the life of your prodigal? God bless you.
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Thank you for joining me today on the When You Love a Prodigal podcast. If you enjoyed
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Do you love a prodigal? Do you feel like you are lost in a scary and endless wilderness?
2
00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:17,320
Welcome to the When You Love a Prodigal podcast. I am Judy Douglass and I spent more than 15
3
00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:25,380
years in that wilderness. I believe together we will discover help and hope for your journey.
4
00:00:25,380 --> 00:00:33,280
This week we are in our second look at time. We'll be doing that for about four weeks,
5
00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:42,000
talking about time. What do pearls and butterflies have in common? Well, they both start out
6
00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:50,480
as something simple and not so beautiful and are transformed into something lovely. A pearl
7
00:00:50,480 --> 00:00:58,880
begins as a tiny grain of sand and an oyster. Since to the oyster it is an irritant, the
8
00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:05,920
oyster immediately begins to cover the grain with nacre, the same substance its shell is
9
00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:14,320
made from. Over time, because of the pressure experienced by the oyster, layer after layer
10
00:01:14,320 --> 00:01:22,800
of nacre transforms that little grain of sand into a lustrous pearl. Most of us have marveled
11
00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:29,800
at how a caterpillar, an ugly hairy worm-like creature crawling on a tree limb, can become
12
00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:35,960
a lovely butterfly soaring through the sky. Perhaps you have even watched the process
13
00:01:35,960 --> 00:01:43,060
as a school science experiment. My granddaughter recently had five butterflies emerge from
14
00:01:43,060 --> 00:01:49,800
cocoons that I sent her. And you've heard that a butterfly, which has been under pressure
15
00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:56,600
while tightly packed in its chrysalis, must go through the difficult effort to break out
16
00:01:56,600 --> 00:02:03,680
if it is to be able to fly. If you break its chrysalis open, the butterfly will die. They
17
00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:12,360
have to do the hard work to get out. Oh, how we wish our prodigals would return now. How
18
00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:20,040
we want them to be changed overnight. And sometimes that happens. Amazing surrender
19
00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:29,760
and metamorphosis can happen in a moment or a day or a week, but not usually. Usually
20
00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:38,960
it takes both time and pressure. What kind of pressure? Many kinds, actually. One pressure
21
00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:46,000
is that they are sad that they are hurting and disappointing you. That matters more to
22
00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:52,000
them than you would think and that they would acknowledge. Choices that lead to negative
23
00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:59,200
consequences from small to very significant are a huge pressure on them. Depending on
24
00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:07,400
where they are and what's going on, they could be in hunger, in pain, exposure, poverty,
25
00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:14,180
affected. They could have loss of identity. Who am I? Loss of community and even loss
26
00:03:14,180 --> 00:03:21,740
of their family by their own choice. They have loss of hope for a good future, all for
27
00:03:21,740 --> 00:03:29,000
a momentary pleasure or a sense of personal freedom. And they give up all of that. And
28
00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:36,920
time, it takes time for the pain and reality of those losses and the consequences to seek
29
00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:44,400
in. It also takes time for most prodigals to recognize they are not really happy with
30
00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:51,680
their current situation and to start to look for a better approach to life, to begin to
31
00:03:51,680 --> 00:04:00,100
make a turn. Finally, even when the decision to turn is real, it takes time for consequences
32
00:04:00,100 --> 00:04:08,200
to play out, for addictions to be overcome, for habits and patterns to reverse. My son
33
00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:14,400
has even said that he is still experiencing some of the consequences of his bad choices
34
00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:23,320
that he mostly quit making about 10 years ago. Transformation requires both time and
35
00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:30,840
pressure. Sometimes we grow weary under the stress and the seemingly endless pain and
36
00:04:30,840 --> 00:04:39,880
we say, now please, Lord. But our God has given us this word. In Ecclesiastes, he says
37
00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:48,880
that he has made everything beautiful in its time. So just as it takes time to transform
38
00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:57,040
a grain of sand into an exquisite pearl and to change a caterpillar into a lovely butterfly,
39
00:04:57,040 --> 00:05:03,440
so it will take time for our loved ones to be transformed into the beautiful ones God
40
00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:11,480
created them to be. It will take time, but it can happen. And each of us, well, we also
41
00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:20,240
need transforming in small and large places in our lives. That change will also require
42
00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:27,840
time and pressure. And in God's economy, surely our prodigal loved ones are supplying
43
00:05:27,840 --> 00:05:37,040
time and pressure in great amounts for us. And that yields newness in our lives as well.
44
00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:43,080
God is a good steward. He uses what they're doing for them and for us. And he also has
45
00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:51,160
a sense of humor. But usually it's difficult to wait patiently. For many years, every time
46
00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:57,120
my birthday would come around, I'd tell my son what gift I would like from him. It was
47
00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:06,120
always the same gift. All I want for my birthday is for you to surrender your life to Jesus.
48
00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:13,120
There were times he yelled at me in response, I want nothing to do with Jesus. Other times
49
00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:20,760
he didn't acknowledge my requests. Not a no, not a yes, just silence. Occasionally,
50
00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:28,280
he would make some small steps towards surrendering to God, giving me little tokens of hope. But
51
00:06:28,280 --> 00:06:36,320
still I waited for that very special gift, as I am sure you have had to wait. Abraham
52
00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:43,080
and Sarah also waited many years for a very special gift, the birth of their son Isaac.
53
00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:50,680
Think about this. First, there was a promise. Then the word of the Lord came to him, that
54
00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:57,920
is Abram. This man, Abram's sermon, will not be your heir, but a son who is your own
55
00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:04,240
flesh and blood will be your heir. He took him outside and said, look up at the sky and
56
00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:13,140
count stars, if indeed you can count them. And then God said to him, so shall your offspring
57
00:07:13,140 --> 00:07:23,040
be. And Abram began to believe and he waited. But there was a bypass. Sarah just couldn't
58
00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:32,160
keep waiting. Now we read Sarah's, Abram's wife, had born no children, but she had an
59
00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:39,760
Egyptian slave named Hagar. So she said to Abram, the Lord has kept me from having children.
60
00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:47,080
Go sleep with my slave. Perhaps I can build a family through her. This was a common custom
61
00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:55,840
then. But God was committed to his original plan. So there was not a rejection, there
62
00:07:55,840 --> 00:08:03,720
was an affirmation. And he says, is anything too hard for the Lord? I will return to you
63
00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:13,040
at the appointed time next year and Sarah will have a son. And then there was the fulfillment.
64
00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:20,920
Sarah became pregnant and bore a son to Abraham in his old age. And get this, at the very
65
00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:28,440
time God had promised him, so much happens in our lives and in the lives of our prodigals
66
00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:36,400
at the very time that God has ordained. Abraham had a promise. His descendants would outnumber
67
00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:43,440
the grains of sand and the stars in the sky. Yet he had no child, no heir, no tangible
68
00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:51,100
evidence of God's promise. Year after year, he looked for the promise. Time after time,
69
00:08:51,100 --> 00:08:59,440
the impossible did not happen. I've been there waiting for that birthday gift from my son.
70
00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:05,000
Sarah couldn't wait. She took things into her own hands, trying to come up with her
71
00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:11,960
own solution. Uh oh, I've been there too. No, I couldn't make him say I surrender,
72
00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:19,960
but a little manipulation, maybe a small bribe and plenty of demanding prayers. Do it, Lord,
73
00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:28,640
do it my way. I take such encouragement in God's creativity. Yes, pain and disruption
74
00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:37,080
and conflict resulted from Sarah's effort. Then and to this day, we see it. Yet God redeemed
75
00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:45,320
it. He protected Hagar and Ishmael throughout their lives. And in Genesis, we read Hagar
76
00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:54,520
gave us a beautiful understanding with this name of God, Elroy, the God who sees me. And
77
00:09:54,520 --> 00:10:04,280
we have that promise even now that God sees you and sees your prodigal. And he has a plan.
78
00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:10,200
I have thought Abraham and Sarah's efforts, he did participate, would have caused God
79
00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:18,600
himself to take a bypass as well, to go with another approach. But no, God reaffirmed his
80
00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:29,160
original plan. Abraham at 99 and Sarah at 90 would have a son in a year. And it happened
81
00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:37,360
exactly when God planned it to happen. Talk about a birthday celebration. I suppose Isaac
82
00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:44,880
is maybe the longest waited for baby ever. I've had promises about my son. Maybe you
83
00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:52,440
too have had promises about your loved ones. Or maybe you wait and despair and pray and
84
00:10:52,440 --> 00:11:02,360
hope. Repeat, wait and despair and pray and hope. Repeat. Will the time ever come? God
85
00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:10,240
is not bound by time, but he has chosen to operate in time. And it reminds us he will
86
00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:17,200
accomplish his purposes in the lives of our prodigals, our children, spouses, parents,
87
00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:26,000
friends in his perfect way at his perfect time. And he will do the same in your life
88
00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:35,280
and in my life. Let me ask you a couple of questions. Have you, like Sarah, tried to
89
00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:42,520
take things into your own hands? How did it play out? Did it happen the way you wanted
90
00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:51,040
it to? When have you seen God graciously redeem your own efforts and your bypasses and do
91
00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:59,160
his beautiful work in your life as well as the life of your prodigal? God bless you.
92
00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:04,320
Thank you for joining me today on the When You Love a Prodigal podcast. If you enjoyed
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