Feb. 7, 2023
Persevering in Prayer, episode 90
I used to think I knew how to pray. Then this wilderness journey with my wandering son required desperate prayer. And I moved into a new dimension of what it meant to pray.
Even now I realize I still know so little about praying. Prayer is a wonder I can barely comprehend. Sometimes I feel woefully inadequate and terribly ineffective—does anything happen when I pray?
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If you love a prodigal, you can discover help and hope for your wilderness journey right here at When You Love a Prodigal,
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and also help and hope for your own life journey.
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Today, we will continue our wilderness exploration, looking for treasured gifts on a prodigal journey.
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Be sure to jot down any ideas you want to try in your wilderness journey so you don't forget.
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I used to think I knew how to pray.
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Then, this prodigal time of our lives, 15 years, with my wandering son, required desperate prayer,
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and I moved into a new dimension of what it meant to pray.
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Even now, I realize I still know so little about praying.
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Prayer is a wonder I can barely comprehend.
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Sometimes I feel woefully inadequate and terribly ineffective.
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Does anything happen when I pray?
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Yet I keep praying, often, even always.
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Here are some of the ways I pray.
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Maybe these will be an encouragement and help to you.
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It's not a formula.
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There's no order, because life in the moment often dictates how I come to the Lord,
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what I say, and even what position I get in.
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We'll start with one of my favorite ways to pray, walking on the beach.
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In our conversation with my God, with sand in my toes and the waves lapping my ankles,
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the ocean masking nearby sounds, I usually ask God,
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what do you want to say to me?
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And he usually responds with words of love, affirmation, comfort,
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and new opportunities and sometimes some admonition.
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And then sometimes I start with, I have something to say, Lord.
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I almost always pray with great honesty.
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I find it's good to tell God the truth, because he knows it anyway.
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The beach is a good place to yell out my anger or fear or confusion.
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My home, when no one else is there, also works well.
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God always listens patiently and responds compassionately,
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reminding me of truth I know, of what he is like, of how I need to respond.
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Sometimes I fall on my face, literally, in awe,
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that the God of the universe would invite me into his presence to talk with him,
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to share my heart, to listen to his heart.
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I am so unworthy, yet he treasures me and wants me with him.
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Or I might drop to my knees and cry out, begging God to choose to do what I know he can do.
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Would he please heal or rescue or provide or change things,
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change a mind or a heart or a situation?
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Jesus says that he responds to those who cry out day and night, so I do it.
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Many times, as David describes in the Psalms, my tears have soaked my pillow.
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Help me, Lord, or help my loved one.
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I also pray by myself and with others.
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I use scripture. I pray through long parts of the Psalms, for example,
43
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and a lot in the latter part of Isaiah has been a great source of prayer for me.
44
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I read aloud prayers written by others.
45
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I raise my hands in worship.
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Of course, I have interceded on behalf of those I love, friends and coworkers,
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our leaders, world situations, those needing justice, and many other people, needs, events,
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and for those who love a prodigal.
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Gratefully, one of my most frequent prayers is, thank you, Lord.
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I have taken seriously the admonition to give thanks in all things.
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And oh, the difference it has made in all the above prayers.
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If I can say thank you, I have a whole different perspective on it.
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So you say you actually thank him?
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Does he answer your prayers that you should say thanks for the answer?
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Well, yes, he answers. Sometimes my hearing's not so good.
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Often he says, no, not a good idea.
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Other times he says, yes, but it usually looks a little different than what I had in mind.
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Often he says, I have a better idea, Judy.
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He is rarely in a hurry, but always on time.
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He is always in a hurry from his great knowledge and his great love.
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My saying thank you affirms that I believe he is God and he is good.
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And in my experience, those little words are like a key to open a door for God to work.
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I've experienced some amazing answers to prayer.
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I've seen people healed in heart and body.
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I've seen a remarkable community praying with them.
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Yes, sometimes God seems silent.
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At those times I feel like I know nothing about praying and I grow weary of waiting.
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Then once again, my Abba, daddy, father invites me into his embrace, into his heart.
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I can listen and cry and laugh. How sweet is that?
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Oh yes, there is the waiting.
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I think wait is one of God's favorite words.
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I'm not a fan of waiting and probably you aren't either.
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But one of the realities that God seems committed to is that when we learn to wait,
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to be patient, to persevere, we will learn important things.
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I don't think I've ever asked for the gift of perseverance.
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I might desire persistence, fortitude, even patience or endurance.
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But not perseverance. It sounds painful.
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But that's a gift I have received often, especially during this prodigal journey.
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I wrote this sort of poetry in the midst of a very hard time.
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Never give up.
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Sometimes it seems to no avail.
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You love unconditionally as best you can.
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You encourage, affirm, look for the good.
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You set boundaries and enforce consequences.
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You forgive and forgive and forgive again.
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You pour out mercy and grace and they keep going their wayward way.
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They reject you, disappear from your life,
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or even when they make better choices, they take you for granted.
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The casual thanks they give hardly conveys gratitude.
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The offhand apology seems barely sincere.
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Coming around again with an outstretched hand,
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then gone again until their next neediness.
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You cry. You pray. You reach out. You let go. You wait.
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Does this sound familiar?
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I bet many of you could have written those same words.
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I've had those thoughts and those questions wondering how will it end?
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When will it end?
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When will the asked for change happen?
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Perhaps our God, our loving Father, could write something similar about us.
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Surely occasionally we have the same attitudes, responses, words, actions toward him
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that our beloved Prodigals have toward us.
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Yet he keeps loving, correcting, encouraging, embracing.
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God gives out extravagant mercy and grace.
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He waits. He perseveres.
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And so can we in his spirit.
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So we have looked here at two gifts.
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One is just prayer in itself, that we can talk to God.
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That's just so amazing that he says,
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come on up, come join me here at the throne.
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Let's talk about anything. We can pour out our hearts.
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But then he does usually let us have to persevere.
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We don't always get what we want.
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Well, we don't always get what we want.
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But when we do even, it's rarely when we want it.
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And so one of our gifts is prayer, conversation with God himself.
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But another one is learning to persevere, learning to wait, learning to not give up.
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Because God is just as committed to doing the work in us as he is to answering our prayers about our loved one.
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Because he wants them to grow, but he also wants us to grow.
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So I have a few questions for you.
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What are some ways that you pray that you especially like?
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What are the ways of praying or one or two that are very meaningful to you?
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And when have you found unexpected treasures in your praying?
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When has God revealed something to you?
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When have you understood or when have you seen an answer that you really wanted?
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And how have you been able to persevere?
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How would you explain it to someone else?
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What's it like to keep hanging on, to not give up, to wait on God who is acting in his perfect timing?
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Next week we will wrap up Searching for Treasure in the Wilderness with two more valuable gifts.
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I think you're going to love what we're going to talk about next week.
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And I would be really grateful if you would tell a friend.
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Probably if you have a product or you know someone else who does, maybe they would like to listen to this podcast as well.
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And while you're doing that, take a minute to rate it and even comment if you're listening on Apple.
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I will be praying for you.
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God bless you.
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If you love a prodigal, you can discover help and hope for your wilderness journey right here at When You Love a Prodigal,
2
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and also help and hope for your own life journey.
3
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Today, we will continue our wilderness exploration, looking for treasured gifts on a prodigal journey.
4
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Be sure to jot down any ideas you want to try in your wilderness journey so you don't forget.
5
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I used to think I knew how to pray.
6
00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:47,000
Then, this prodigal time of our lives, 15 years, with my wandering son, required desperate prayer,
7
00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:53,000
and I moved into a new dimension of what it meant to pray.
8
00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:59,000
Even now, I realize I still know so little about praying.
9
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Prayer is a wonder I can barely comprehend.
10
00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:09,000
Sometimes I feel woefully inadequate and terribly ineffective.
11
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Does anything happen when I pray?
12
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Yet I keep praying, often, even always.
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Here are some of the ways I pray.
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Maybe these will be an encouragement and help to you.
15
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It's not a formula.
16
00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:34,000
There's no order, because life in the moment often dictates how I come to the Lord,
17
00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:39,000
what I say, and even what position I get in.
18
00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:45,000
We'll start with one of my favorite ways to pray, walking on the beach.
19
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In our conversation with my God, with sand in my toes and the waves lapping my ankles,
20
00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:59,000
the ocean masking nearby sounds, I usually ask God,
21
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what do you want to say to me?
22
00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:10,000
And he usually responds with words of love, affirmation, comfort,
23
00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:16,000
and new opportunities and sometimes some admonition.
24
00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:22,000
And then sometimes I start with, I have something to say, Lord.
25
00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:25,000
I almost always pray with great honesty.
26
00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:31,000
I find it's good to tell God the truth, because he knows it anyway.
27
00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:37,000
The beach is a good place to yell out my anger or fear or confusion.
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00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:42,000
My home, when no one else is there, also works well.
29
00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:48,000
God always listens patiently and responds compassionately,
30
00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:57,000
reminding me of truth I know, of what he is like, of how I need to respond.
31
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Sometimes I fall on my face, literally, in awe,
32
00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:10,000
that the God of the universe would invite me into his presence to talk with him,
33
00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:15,000
to share my heart, to listen to his heart.
34
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I am so unworthy, yet he treasures me and wants me with him.
35
00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:30,000
Or I might drop to my knees and cry out, begging God to choose to do what I know he can do.
36
00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:37,000
Would he please heal or rescue or provide or change things,
37
00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:42,000
change a mind or a heart or a situation?
38
00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:49,000
Jesus says that he responds to those who cry out day and night, so I do it.
39
00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:55,000
Many times, as David describes in the Psalms, my tears have soaked my pillow.
40
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Help me, Lord, or help my loved one.
41
00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:05,000
I also pray by myself and with others.
42
00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:11,000
I use scripture. I pray through long parts of the Psalms, for example,
43
00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:18,000
and a lot in the latter part of Isaiah has been a great source of prayer for me.
44
00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:22,000
I read aloud prayers written by others.
45
00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:25,000
I raise my hands in worship.
46
00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:31,000
Of course, I have interceded on behalf of those I love, friends and coworkers,
47
00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:39,000
our leaders, world situations, those needing justice, and many other people, needs, events,
48
00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:43,000
and for those who love a prodigal.
49
00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:49,000
Gratefully, one of my most frequent prayers is, thank you, Lord.
50
00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:54,000
I have taken seriously the admonition to give thanks in all things.
51
00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:59,000
And oh, the difference it has made in all the above prayers.
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If I can say thank you, I have a whole different perspective on it.
53
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So you say you actually thank him?
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Does he answer your prayers that you should say thanks for the answer?
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Well, yes, he answers. Sometimes my hearing's not so good.
56
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Often he says, no, not a good idea.
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Other times he says, yes, but it usually looks a little different than what I had in mind.
58
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Often he says, I have a better idea, Judy.
59
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He is rarely in a hurry, but always on time.
60
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He is always in a hurry from his great knowledge and his great love.
61
00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:52,000
My saying thank you affirms that I believe he is God and he is good.
62
00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:59,000
And in my experience, those little words are like a key to open a door for God to work.
63
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I've experienced some amazing answers to prayer.
64
00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:07,000
I've seen people healed in heart and body.
65
00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:12,000
I've seen a remarkable community praying with them.
66
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Yes, sometimes God seems silent.
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At those times I feel like I know nothing about praying and I grow weary of waiting.
68
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Then once again, my Abba, daddy, father invites me into his embrace, into his heart.
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I can listen and cry and laugh. How sweet is that?
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Oh yes, there is the waiting.
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I think wait is one of God's favorite words.
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I'm not a fan of waiting and probably you aren't either.
73
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But one of the realities that God seems committed to is that when we learn to wait,
74
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to be patient, to persevere, we will learn important things.
75
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I don't think I've ever asked for the gift of perseverance.
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I might desire persistence, fortitude, even patience or endurance.
77
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But not perseverance. It sounds painful.
78
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But that's a gift I have received often, especially during this prodigal journey.
79
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I wrote this sort of poetry in the midst of a very hard time.
80
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Never give up.
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Sometimes it seems to no avail.
82
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You love unconditionally as best you can.
83
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You encourage, affirm, look for the good.
84
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You set boundaries and enforce consequences.
85
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You forgive and forgive and forgive again.
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You pour out mercy and grace and they keep going their wayward way.
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They reject you, disappear from your life,
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or even when they make better choices, they take you for granted.
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The casual thanks they give hardly conveys gratitude.
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The offhand apology seems barely sincere.
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Coming around again with an outstretched hand,
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then gone again until their next neediness.
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You cry. You pray. You reach out. You let go. You wait.
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Does this sound familiar?
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I bet many of you could have written those same words.
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I've had those thoughts and those questions wondering how will it end?
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When will it end?
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When will the asked for change happen?
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Perhaps our God, our loving Father, could write something similar about us.
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Surely occasionally we have the same attitudes, responses, words, actions toward him
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that our beloved Prodigals have toward us.
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Yet he keeps loving, correcting, encouraging, embracing.
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God gives out extravagant mercy and grace.
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He waits. He perseveres.
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And so can we in his spirit.
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So we have looked here at two gifts.
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One is just prayer in itself, that we can talk to God.
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That's just so amazing that he says,
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come on up, come join me here at the throne.
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Let's talk about anything. We can pour out our hearts.
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But then he does usually let us have to persevere.
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We don't always get what we want.
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Well, we don't always get what we want.
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But when we do even, it's rarely when we want it.
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And so one of our gifts is prayer, conversation with God himself.
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But another one is learning to persevere, learning to wait, learning to not give up.
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Because God is just as committed to doing the work in us as he is to answering our prayers about our loved one.
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Because he wants them to grow, but he also wants us to grow.
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So I have a few questions for you.
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What are some ways that you pray that you especially like?
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What are the ways of praying or one or two that are very meaningful to you?
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And when have you found unexpected treasures in your praying?
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When has God revealed something to you?
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When have you understood or when have you seen an answer that you really wanted?
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And how have you been able to persevere?
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How would you explain it to someone else?
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What's it like to keep hanging on, to not give up, to wait on God who is acting in his perfect timing?
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Next week we will wrap up Searching for Treasure in the Wilderness with two more valuable gifts.
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I think you're going to love what we're going to talk about next week.
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And I would be really grateful if you would tell a friend.
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Probably if you have a product or you know someone else who does, maybe they would like to listen to this podcast as well.
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And while you're doing that, take a minute to rate it and even comment if you're listening on Apple.
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I will be praying for you.
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God bless you.