(261) “Find What You’re Longing for in the Deepest Place of Your Heart” with Three O’Clock Session

0:00 Let's have a session, an intentional meeting. It's an appointment to go in behind that veil that was torn into the very presence of God and meet with him. And the beautiful thing is that's the place where we can just enter into his presence and the very deepest places of our heart find what we are longing for. God promises in Joel 2 .28 to pour out His Spirit on all humanity. Welcome to Global Outpouring, where we contend for that promised outpouring, and we equip for that outpouring so that we may engage in that very outpouring. I'm Philip Buss. And I'm Sharon Buss. Welcome to the podcast today. We're so glad that you're with us. We have some very special guests today. Dave and Donna and Wes Brooks, they formed the musical worship group called Three O 'Clock Session. And we're going to talk about finding what you're longing for in the deepest place of your heart. Thank you so much for joining us today. This is going to be a marvelous podcast that you are going to be blessed by.

1:20 There's some wonderful things that we're going to be talking about. But before we get started, we want to encourage you, if you haven't already done so, that you go to our website, globaloutpouring .net. And make sure that you have signed up for our email list so that we can stay in touch with you, keep you informed of what we're doing. And while you're there on our website, you can look at our events tab. And especially right now, look at that tab that talks about the Global Outpouring Convention 2025, St. Louis Airport Marriott, May 21st through 24th. We're going to have a glory time. Three o 'clock session will be with us. And we're going to have such an amazing presence of the Lord in worship and intercession. The teaching that we're going to be receiving from Tony Kemp and Dean Braxton and Jeff Simons. Siggy Oblander is going to be our opening night speaker. Dr. Jean Little will be. bringing them a message about Israel, and I'll be speaking as well. And we're going to have a time in the presence of God that will be life -changing. It's just something you got to get there for. You got to get there if you possibly can. So we encourage you, if you possibly can come, please, please, please. It's going to be a family event. We have something for every member of the family. nursery for the little ones and children's meetings and youth meetings and just an opportunity for every age to grow

2:50 in the grace of God and to get closer to Him and learn how to move in the Spirit, learn how to hear the Holy Spirit and operate with Him in conjunction with Him. So we just want to encourage you, please, please pray into this and come if you possibly can. Well, we have with us today, three o 'clock session, Dave, Donna, and Wes Brooks. We are so delighted to have you with us. Thank you for joining us today. Honored to be with you. We're excited to be with you. Yeah. That's wonderful. That's wonderful. The Lord really has connected us in such a beautiful way. We heard you a little bit on probably YouTube or someplace watching some other kinds of events that we were taking in online. And then we met you in Peru, I think it was. Not Peru the nation, but Peru, Illinois. Yeah. It was in the shopping mall. Yes. Yes. During COVID when you weren't supposed to be doing anything and we were doing it anyway. Hallelujah. It was beautiful. It was a beautiful event. And we were delighted to get acquainted with you a little bit. And then you came to our convention last year. It was such a blessing to have you. And we're looking forward to having you at this convention too. Amen. Thank you. It was it was a joy to be with you guys last year and we're looking forward as well.

4:13 Yes, we're excited. So do you like this is going to be a different convention than last year because we're meeting in a hotel. We're expecting more people. Not a lot of people decide to make the trip all the way to Jasper, Arkansas and beyond, you know, out into the boonies where, you know, there's just not. a whole lot of stuff going on, beautiful Ozark Mountains. Yeah, and they stay down in our valley with our 1 ,000 -foot drop road, which is, I remember somebody once going up the hill, they said, I put a faith tape in when I go up the hill. Yeah. Put in Kenneth Hagin going up the hill. Right. Yeah. So what was your impression of being together this last year? Did you have any takeaways? I sure did.

5:03 It was profound to be at Angletall where Gwen Shaw and everything, so much history and the community that was there. I had known about the history of Global Outpouring and End Time Handmaidens. I knew a little bit about it before we were there and before you gave us the invitation. So it was extraordinary to be there and to meet so many lovely people that are part of the ministry. And to share that time together, it was profound. And I would just add to that, you put together a strong line of speakers, but there was also an interesting dynamic, something very special that happens when you combine the solid teaching with a heart of worship, a collective heart of worship with intercession. And there were intercessors there. And that was just a real highlight for us, seeing all of that come together. The community was pressing in and interceding, and our role at some points was just to almost provide a soundtrack for intercession. Well, and you did it so well.

6:13 That was one of the reasons why we invited you, was to bring that weight of glory that you carry in the music. It's very weighty. Your anointing is weighty with the glory. to bring that into the mix, shall we say, of worship and intercession together. Like we do this. This prayer time before we start the meetings, that's what it is. We put up flags and in this venue that we're going to, we'll have room for more flags. We'll have more representation of the nations that members of this ministry have gone to and ministered in. And it's a time when people connect with God in intercession and particularly for the nations. And when you have that weight of the glory in You know, the presence of God, just the weightiness. I can't think of any other word to use. It's the presence of the Lord is just so there. And they feed off of each other. The intercession and the worship feed together into this atmosphere of the glory and the presence of God. And that was really why we invited you, because we knew that that was going to be what we needed. We love to be. leaders of worshipers.

7:34 Amen. For many beautiful worshipers there. And as we were worshiping in his glory, it was so amazing to see different ones going to different flags, different countries around the world that they were interceding for. And so we'll never know fully all that was accomplished. Someday we will. Yes. But there was just a knowing. that there was a lot being accomplished as we were worshiping him and interceding. And there was one lady that came up to us afterward and she said, you know, during the worship, she said, I felt like the Lord gave me a download. I had been praying specifically for strategy for each of people group. And she said it was right during worship. Nobody said a word to me. But it was just a sense of what the Lord was speaking directly to me with very specific direction for how to reach this people group that's been on our heart for a long time. So, you know, those are the kinds of things you don't put that into your set list when you're planning. You just enter in and the Lord does things that go way beyond us. Amen. Absolutely. So how did you get started in this ministry of worship? Well, Dave and I have always been involved in music. And then when we got married down the road, we started being a part of a worship team at our church.

9:06 But Wes was very little at that point. But as we progressed, there was a season where the church that we were going to had a healing prayer ministry that we were asked to lead worship during. And it was like three hours where they would have groups of people that were being prayed over and we would provide worship for three hours. Wow. Three hours. That's kind of when that was Dave and I and Wes was still pretty little during that time. But as he got older, then he felt led to be a part of what we do. And we felt led for him to be a part of what we do. Sure. That's kind of where it was birthed. Then the Lord gave us the name Three O 'Clock Session one Sunday morning, even before church. It was confirmed in a very, very special way that morning at church.

10:06 We didn't use that name for a long time, but there was a time when the Lord said, it's time to use your name, and it's time to move forward with Three O 'Clock Session. And this is a perfect time to also tie in, you know, Good Friday coming up here just very soon. And at Good Friday, three o 'clock in the afternoon is when Jesus said from the cross, it is finished. He gave up his spirit. But precisely when that was happening, the veil in the temple was torn supernaturally from top to bottom. It was a very thick curtain.

10:48 prohibiting the common man from entering into the Holy of Holies. Only the high priest could go and only once a year. But Jesus paid the price for the common man who calls upon him and receives salvation through Christ to have access into the very holy presence of God Almighty. So that's our heartbeat. That's our heartbeat. And that's the glory of God. You know, you think of the Ark of the Covenant. That was... behind the curtain. And that was the glory of God there. And so to have access because of Jesus being the final sacrifice. Yeah. So that's what we want our ministry to be all about is God's presence and his glory.

11:30 And it is. Absolutely. Isn't that the time of the evening sacrifice? Yes, I think it is. Yes. While Jesus was offering the ultimate sacrifice on the cross over near the temple, The sacrifice was being offered as it had been for hundreds of years. And there was that perfect parallel. God doesn't miss a detail. It's three o 'clock, three o 'clock. And the session part is there's musical sessions. I work as a therapist, so there's therapy sessions. But we want the ultimate session is a session with the King of Kings, the Lord of Lords, the wonderful counselor. Yes. Because everything. All things are possible with him, and in his presence, miracles take place. Amen.

12:22 Amen. I'm reminded of years ago, we used to have a billboard that our ministry had put up in a couple of places, and it said, you have an appointment with God. Yes. Yeah, that's good. Right. And that's kind of what we, in the word session, it's an intentional meeting. Let's have a session, an intentional meeting. It's an appointment to go in behind that veil that was torn into the very presence of God and meet with him. And the beautiful thing is that's the place where we can just, we can enter into his presence and the very deepest places of our heart find what we are longing for. And that is the beauty of really the Easter message started. with access into God's presence when Jesus said it is finished.

13:16 The Greek word to telestai, paid in full. It's an accounting term. It means it's like a rubber stamp that says you're done. Your sins have been canceled out. They have been paid for in full. Now you can enter. Now you can come in to the fullness of the presence of God. So let's have an intentional meeting, an appointment. with our wonderful counselor that I was talking about. Yeah, body, soul, and spirit. We know that salvation means for body, the soul, and the spirit. So it's all inclusive. Yes. Yes. Amen. Absolutely. That reminds me too of, I'm not exactly sure of the pronunciation, but the word shalom comes from, and we know that means peace and it means nothing's missing and nothing's broken, but it comes from a root word. And I think it's Shalem or Shalom. I'm sorry, I don't know the exact words because I wasn't looking to say this, but it also means paid in full. So the root of peace is the fact that it's been paid in full. Beautiful.

14:23 And that the whole thing is paid in full. And there's another word that Paul uses in, I think it's 1 Thessalonians 5, somewhere around verse 20 or 21, where it talks about that your whole spirit, soul, and body be preserved blameless. And that word whole there is holocleros. And it comes from two Greek words, olos and kleros. And olos means whole. And kleros, I think, means having all its parts. So it's whole having all its parts. So your whole spirit, soul and body is preserved blameless. And it has the idea that everything that's supposed to be there is there.

15:07 Even if at one point it was lost, it's been restored. Beautiful. Yeah, that's what having a session with the Lord is all about. It's the restoration, you know. And it's a process. It's not like it happens overnight. But a big thing happens when you first get born again, you know. I don't know why some people get more than others, but, you know, it's the start of a walk. Yeah. It's the start of a lifestyle. Yeah. A history with God. Yeah. You know, it's also, it's really interesting. I've done some studying on... the presence of God. And so many things happen in the presence of God. But one way to just kind of, I won't say summarize because you can't really, you can't summarize in a sentence. But one thing I like to think about is hard things get soft in God.

15:56 Yeah, that's good. There's just a whole lot of things that happen that are moving from disarray to order, from weakness to strength, from broken to healed. His presence gives life. And so that's the heartbeat of what drives us as worshipers. It's not about the music, although we are musicians and we do music, but that's an expression. Worship is about his presence. It's about entering in and having that love transaction where we tell him we love him and he loves us. And something very beautiful takes place just in that process of basking in the fullness of the Father's love.

16:41 Yeah, and it's part that we just love is when we're loving on him, he's loving on us, when his glory is there. And that's something that's very... Important to us when we start worship is to wait on him to connect and make sure that he knows that we're going to follow him. We're going to follow what he's doing. We're going to look and see what he's doing and follow what he's doing. And that's when, you know, we've given him a complete invitation to do whatever he wants. And that's when the story... does the heavy lifting. It's like the glory brings an ease and it does the heavy lifting. And then we just enter in and amazing things happen. Just even recently, someone had such a revelation during their time of worship. And that's what we want for people and for ourselves. Just, you know, that body, soul, and spirit can come in many different ways that God reaches our hearts.

17:50 Yeah, just what an individual might need. And, you know, it's like, it's like, we're just loving on him. But, you know, he's always loving back. He's always reaching. He's always speaking. And so it's just a wonderful mutual exchange. He loves before we do. Yeah. You know, we love because he first loved us. Yeah. And I think that's where... So many folks are missing key ingredients in the life. You know, I'm noticing some of these folks that have deconstructed their faith and walked away from God. And I have to question how much of a relationship did they get? You know, I can understand. And I personally, I think it's good to allow questioning. I think it's healthy to question because not everything that we learned in church was scriptural. I mean, there's lots of traditions, just like the Pharisees added all kinds of traditions. And Jesus wasn't happy with that. And he's not too happy with the traditions that we tout as though they were scripture. And to be fair to the people that are pushing them, that's how they were taught.

19:12 You know, Philip and I grew up in the church and we were, taught lots of things, but we've had to sort through some things that are like, I don't think that was quite right. But, you know, because we have a real relationship with the Lord, it's like, it's not his fault that somebody who was naming his name didn't get it right. Yeah. It makes me so sad because it's like people often don't really know him. They haven't had a revelation of his unconditional love, and that's so sad. Yeah, and they think he's just an angry old man in the sky. He's not that at all. There's one having fun on Earth.

19:56 Let's squash him like a bug. I noticed just recently a Facebook friend, a guy that I was in college with, who went on to become actually quite a scholar. He made a Facebook post, and I thought what he said was absolutely brilliant. He said, it's not a bad thing, kind of going back to what you said, Sharon. It's not a bad thing to challenge some of the things that we have been taught and to verify. That's not a bad thing. It can be extremely healthy and necessary. And he said, where I would make the distinction as you are. entering into this phase of, if you want to think of it as remodeling a house, you know, if you deconstruct a house, quote unquote, well, that's fine. You can move a wall between two bedrooms that's not a load -bearing wall. But if you move a load -bearing wall, you're in trouble. Yeah.

20:50 That we have to be careful when we get into deconstruction. We cannot give up on the inerrancy. We cannot give up on the virgin birth. We cannot give up on who Jesus is. There are certain things. Those are the load -bearing walls of the Christian faith. Yeah, that's good. And yes, we can grow in our ability to defend why we hold those conclusions as convictions. But to deconstruct those essentials, we've in essence rejected Christianity at its foundation. And lots of them have. I was kind of chatting with somebody about this earlier today, and we were talking about truth being the thing that most people that are really honest in their hearts are seeking truth. And the problem is that they're tending to measure things with the wrong yardstick or the wrong scales. You have to have, as you said, the inerrancy of the Word of God. You have to have some kind of a...

21:52 measuring line or a plumb line that shows you what is straight. And if you're getting your information from social media or from television and movies and whatever mainstream media that's out there from the world, and you're not getting it from the source of life, the instruction book that our father wrote to help us get through this. You're starting off on the wrong foot. You're not going to succeed. You know, I think another really important part of this discussion is it can't just be head knowledge. Right. It can't just be a belief system that sits on the shelf. It has to show up in real life. And we sometimes talk about in worship. We are actually growing our experiential apologetic, if I can coin a phrase. Because when you are sensing that immersive love of the Heavenly Father and our spirits, our regenerated, reborn spirits know that. Our souls are a little slow sometimes to catch on. But our spirit man is pulsating with life in worship. When we are able to experience the love of God and when that environment, when there's a group of people together pressing into his presence and worship, there's something that

23:24 pushes against all the lies of culture, all the lies of the deconstruction movement that says, no, my heart tells me I am experiencing my creator in this moment right now in real time. Then a miracle breaks out or something happens that can't be explained any other way except by the power and presence of God. Now you've got an experiential apologetic that links arms with the knowledge and with the belief system side of faith where we do need to have reasons for why we believe what we believe. But I believe what we're doing and part of our calling with worship is to help people have that encounter.

24:11 to where it's not just a walk of faith that is head knowledge, but it's a heart reality. Yes, that's good. Absolutely. Yeah, you could call it a relational apologetic because it's just like in any relationship, God's faithful to us. He's always going to be faithful. And we want to be faithful back, just like we would be faithful in a marriage or be faithful just to a friend. You know, it's a relationship. So when people walk away, it's like, how could you walk away from your best friend? Your best friend's going to be faithful to you forever. Be faithful back.

24:52 Yeah, that's true. That's true. So you've just recently returned from ministering in South Africa. Tell us about that. Wow. How do we begin? It was so glorious. We had to cross an ocean. Yeah. Yeah. It was a wonderful time. And one of the things that I think we can say is there is a move of God that's worldwide. Yeah. Yes. Yes. Amen. It was such a thrill to be with people almost 8 ,000 miles away who love the Lord and who are passionate about him and just to join our hearts together. And isn't that a kind of picture of heaven? It was just a really, really beautiful time. So we came back. Our hearts are filled to overflowing. It was such a great experience being in South Africa. We were actually in a retreat center that was about 3 ,100 feet elevation above the Val d 'Or. And, oh my goodness, Wes, how do you even put into words the scenic beauty that matched. The theme of the conference, the clouds rolling in underneath where we were each morning. That was just stunning. Yeah, there in the mountains, seeing the clouds roll in.

26:15 And one morning I got up pretty early to catch the sunrise, as did some others. And I saw dad walking out as well to experience that. And I saw some clouds kind of follow him. It was as though. The angelic realm was stirring up some clouds to welcome Dad or to rejoice with Dad in our being there and the body of Christ being there. That creation is of God and that it's alive and that it partners with us as we partner with God. So these clouds were rolling in, but there were these unordinary clouds that kind of lunged up out from the rest of the clouds and followed Dad as he was walking. It's quite notable. Yeah, we were above the clouds. We were in the mountains and the clouds came in below us, which was really profound. So it was almost like, you know, sometimes you'll use an illustration in a sermon. And that was a living illustration.

27:14 It was like, well, you just walk outside your door and creation. Psalm 19 .1 talks about how the heavens declare the glory of God. And all throughout the Psalms, the earth declares the glory of God. And our retreat theme, we were leading worship for four days in this setting. And the theme was, as Wes touched on, it was just about how our faith, our relationship with the Lord is so linked with the world, with creation, with what our creator created out of his heart of love. For us to enjoy. To enjoy and to partner with him in stewarding and just reveling in the beauty of what he created and loving it. It was just pretty amazing, the whole experience. You know, just worshiping with people from all different countries, Australia, New Zealand, or South Africa, the U .S. Mozambique. Mozambique. Peru, was there anybody from Peru? It seemed like, anyway, just the body of Christ from all over the world, gathering together, worshiping him, loving him. It's a taste of heaven. It was our first international trip. Purely to do worship. So it was significant on that level. We've had international trips before to Israel, but we weren't going there to lead worship. That's been a few years ago, but this was specifically to lead worship. And

28:44 what a glorious first experience. Amen. That's tremendous. You keep saying like heaven, and I keep thinking, we have a common friend that has been to heaven, and that's Dean Braxton, and he's been on this podcast a lot. And I have appreciated, Wes, your input when we've had him and other podcasts we've had. I so appreciate your feedback because it just means a lot to us, Wes. But the book that Dean wrote, Deep Worship in Heaven, was life -changing for me. Yes. And I'm sure you've read it also because, you know, that's how you are moving is in that kind of a heavenly realm. I think it's kind of like the veil gets really thin between heaven and earth when we're worshiping with that understanding of what heaven is like when it comes to worship.

29:39 That the things that you experience in worship, it's not just singing a song. And it's not just dancing or clapping or tapping your toe or whatever. It's so all -encompassing that your whole being is meant, spirit, soul, and body, your whole being is meant to interact with the love of God and with the things that Jesus did for us. And the Holy Spirit is helping us in those times of worship, that it's all about interaction. It is. And one of the things that is so enormously satisfying beyond words, it's hard to even describe, is when we're sensing that wind of the Holy Spirit, sometimes we'll just try to follow. It's like putting your kite up in the sky and letting the wind carry. And Donna, you are really paying attention to what's happening. as the holy spirit is directing it's not just let's go through the song as planned but there's a lot of spontaneous in the moment that happens because of what you're talking about sharon what we're sensing is happening in heaven and you know first chronicles 25 and elsewhere in the scripture talks about prophesying on the instruments and there are times where we kind of get lost we don't know where the song is going but We're just flowing together. And

31:12 it's just so crazy beautiful how the Lord has a way of expressing things through when we just yield ourselves. And that's all of us. Yeah. Ephesians 2 tells us that we're seated with him in heavenly places. And so we are there. We're in the throne room with him, you know, positionally as believers. And so, you know, when we lead, we're watching. What are you doing, Lord? And what is heaven doing? And we're going to follow what heaven is doing, follow what the Lord is doing in this setting at this moment, and do our best to follow that. And sometimes he'll have us focus on a certain lyric and go over that lyric again and again, because he's doing something with that lyric that somebody needs to hear. shifting the atmosphere or shifting a region or shifting a country or whatever. And yeah, there's been a lyric that he's kind of had us camping on for a while the last few times we've led worship. But it's just so fun to follow him. And then you get to hear what took place.

32:36 Sometimes we'll never know fully, but some people then share. Like I said, I alluded to earlier, there was a person that had an inner healing and an insight into something that they shared. And so only the Holy Spirit, in following what he's doing, can we have the results because he's going to show us where to go and what to do. Amen. You know, many times we, you know, we don't fully comprehend what's happening with the people, you know, when God is doing something like, well, we had an experience a couple years ago. It was when we were having our convention here. Yeah, yeah. And it was a big train wreck. That's what we call it. When something goes wrong. Yeah, our one time to lead worship, you know, because we just stepped back and... You know, I picked all the music out. You know, you collate it because you had about 12, 13 different people we had to have music for. So, you know, you get it laid out. And, of course, it's always subject to change because you never know until you're up there what's going to happen. And we start on this one piece, and it just sounds different. It's something's wrong. I said to Sharon, don't you sing melody on this? And what had happened, the one sheet of music we had, was in a different key than everybody else's. And it wasn't the key we normally use. Because nobody else is playing.

34:08 And then the people that play by ear, they start joining in. And I just say, stop. I've never done this ever. Just stop. And I reached back and I grabbed my sister -in -law's copy off the keyboard, said, let's restart this. And Sharon, you tell the rest of what was going on. So, you know, we started the song all over again in the correct key. We're on the same key. And it looked, you know, it was fine. But what we found out later was one of the ladies that was there told us later, she said, you remember that train wreck that you had? I had a vision while you're having that train wreck. And what her vision was, she saw these stairs coming down with, I think there was red carpet on the stairs. And there were angels lining both sides of the stairs. And Jesus was on his white horse coming down the stairs.

35:03 And he came down into the room where we were and he got off of his horse and he walked over to a lady named Mercy McJones. She's one of our members and we've had her on the podcast before. She's from Nigeria. And he took one of the crowns off of his head and he put it on her. So if you think about what that means, that in the midst of our train wreck, he was crowning Mercy. Wow. Wow. Wow. And that's how he is. He is so into mercy and grace. He's trying to get people to heaven. He's not trying to keep people out. He's not standing there at the door trying to say, nope, you didn't check that line off. Sorry, you can't come in. He's more about strategizing how to get you there. You know, that's why we intercede for people that that the Lord will forgive, that the Lord will, you know, lead people into repentance, that we ask him to forgive the sins of people that have hurt us, you know, so that it's not being held over them. You know, that's what intercession is all about is getting in between our father and the people that have done something wrong. That's what Moses did.

36:23 You know, just no, Lord, you can't destroy them because the Egyptians will hear about it and think, oh, that God of Israel. Well, he was able to get him out of Egypt, but he wasn't able to take him to the promised land. Yeah. You know, it's about his name and he is the merciful one and he is the faithful one. And I think it's Dean that talks about how Jesus is always strategizing. Yeah. Yeah. So, you know, we need to get a whole new mindset about instead of condemning people. When we see that they're doing something wrong, that we should be interceding for them. Yeah. That's such an encouragement for you as worship leaders, too, for that person to come forward with that vision. Yes. Sometimes as worship leaders, you can think, oh, man, I really, we made a big mistake there. And it's like Jesus says, hey.

37:13 Been redeemed. I use everything, just like Dean even talks about how even when we're. practicing yes it's not practicing it's worshiping and so even in the midst of being on the wrong keys it was your part of worship that jesus saw that you were in wreck and he made a grand entrance yeah he made yeah so yeah and that's what he saw i was just i was just thinking about how you thought it was a train wreck and mercy saw his train fill the temple yes oh i like that excellent That's good. That is good. Hallelujah. Sometimes in worship, things happen. And, you know, it's good to be humbled now and then. Yeah.

38:00 Something that sometimes I'm the keyboardist of the group and Dave plays bass and the sound. Yeah. And Wes is our percussionist. And just occasionally I'll get so caught up in the spirit, I kind of lose my place. You know, I'm like, whoops. I know that feeling. And I want to say this. It's a little difficult to state exactly what I'm hoping to communicate here. We do care about right notes. Don't get me wrong. You know, that aspect of it. But we care more about where the worship is going. And sometimes it's necessary as worship leaders to take prophetic risk. I actually love those times when Donna... We kind of think of it as getting into the four -wheel drive mode. You get off road, and we don't know where it's going. And it's a prophetic song.

38:56 It's something that's never been done. And she's leading, and Wes and I are doing our best to follow. And sometimes we may not follow correctly, but that is okay. And that's one of the things I believe actually brings delight to the Lord. is when it's more about the heart of following in worship than it is about the perfection of execution in worship. Well said. Anytime we sense the Lord just saying, okay, let's get off road here, and it's an adventure. And a lot of times I'll have a sense, like Wes needs to take it with the percussion, and you want to speak. on that a little bit because there is prophecy on the instruments. And so when Wes takes it, he plays the cajon, there's some powerful things that take place. You want to share a little bit about that or things that people have, you know, shared that happen when you have done that because it really cuts through the atmosphere. Yeah.

40:08 We found that people are very responsive to the cajon and the things that are accomplished on that instrument. And, you know, every instrument has its voice. It has its particular characteristic, its quality that lends itself to the spirit because music is a language. It's a sacred language that God gave us. And so worship brings godly life to that language. And so with my instrument. It does cut through. It does pierce things. And it's interesting. You look at some of the, oh, I don't know, Indian cultures or historical cultures, and drums were very significant for them to accomplish things. And it's no different for us. I think when Wes is playing, there are like chains that get broken off of people, bondages that get broken off of people. You can just sense it and feel it. There's an articulation that it's almost like a knife's edge that's just cutting through.

41:13 And I also think about you mentioned Dean Braxton's book, Deep Worship in Heaven. And he talks in the book about experiencing a drumbeat in heaven. Yeah. And sometimes there's nothing else except just this drumbeat that's going on. And Jesus in John 519 talks about. He does what he sees the Father doing. Jesus was living as a man on earth, fully God, but yet fully man, watching to see what is my Father doing. And he was doing on earth what he saw in heaven. So when Wes is playing his heart out on that cajon, which is like a... It's not quite a drum, if you're not familiar with a cajon. It's not a drum set. It's not a drum set. How would you describe the sound of it, Wes? I think the easiest descriptor for it is called a box. That's what it means in Spanish.

42:07 Yeah, there you go. People will call it that. And it's got a great range. But I give enormous credit to Dad for getting it to sound as good as it does. It's a great acoustic instrument, but the way that Dad mics it and... The way he amplifies it and gets that range of sound out of it is as much the instrument as anything. My hands are, I feel that they're guided. I'm like mom and dad. I'm constantly reading the room. I'm feeling it out, asking and partnering with the guidance for how to go about it because I don't want it to be bang, bang, bang. It's got to have. sensitivity to it that is real and that is alive and that is helpful. There are times when, you know, and that's the thing, it's being sensitive to what the Holy Spirit's doing.

43:06 So there are times that Wes will just gently, gently play just in being sensitive to what's happening in the moment. So I appreciate his sensitivity. And that's what I try to really pay attention to. There are only three of us, so we are much more nimble because we're a small group. And we can follow each other pretty well. Donna and I have been doing this together long enough that I can watch her left hand and have a pretty good idea of what's going on as I'm playing bass. That's pretty good. This just has a knack. It's an uncanny knack for knowing where things are going. But the idea is to be available for those swells that give. articulation to the magnificence of God and yet also those dynamics that are delicate and sensitive and just almost barely playing or barely singing that are just in such reverent awe and the stillness. It's almost like giving a musical expression to stillness where people are experiencing a rest in their souls. And that's really just being able to use that entire range. is something that we feel is very important and very integral to what we try to do. Yeah, the sensitivity of the dove.

44:25 I like to think that when Dad is playing bass, you know, he is my dad, and when he's playing those low frequencies or sustained notes, there's such a fullness about it. I think of it as the heart of the father when Dad is playing the bass. We were blessed about a year, year and a half ago. On a return trip we were coming back from, we just felt this urge to go to Asbury. The move started in Asbury. And we got there at great timing. God just worked everything out. And it was the most amazing because you had a guy playing guitar. He had a piano. And then you had the student on the cajon. Just above him was this magnificent drum set in a cage. Drum cage. drum cage not being used you know it was just the simplicity of the music and when we were outside standing to get in they were singing the chorus of honest day you know the holy are you lord god almighty yeah and that was going on while we're waiting to get in and it continued for quite a long time after we got in it would be like waves would just would just come And what it was, it was God meeting these kids right where they were at. There wasn't anything demonstrative.

45:51 Nobody waving banners and running down the aisles and screaming and maybe doing a cartwheel or something. No, it was like the presence of God coming down in a traditional church that didn't know how to raise their hands. God met them right where they were at. But even with the cajon, it was amazing. Just that combination and the glory was just there. And it's just like, wow. And I'm sure they were in awe too, the way that whole thing started. It just started in their devotion and it just kept going. So it really is an amazing instrument. I think we need to get one. Could be we do. Well, I just want to really express our gratitude to the Lord, first of all, for connecting us because we have that similar heart for his presence and wanting to just lift him high and worship and flow with the Holy Spirit. So I just want to say thank you to you, Father, and thank you to you, Dave and Donna and Wes, as your name is three o 'clock session together. We bless you, and we really appreciate that you've come alongside us to help us to steward the presence of God in this convention that's coming up. And we really want to encourage people to come. It's really life -changing to kind of wade out into the depths of the presence

47:23 of God when you get people that are so inclined that way and have walked together long enough to just learn to follow. I just think it's an opportunity that we really encourage people to join in on. I want to mention your website, right? You have a website? ThreeO 'ClockSession .com. Now, is there an apostrophe between the O and the C in O 'Clock? No apostrophe, and the word three is spelled out. T -H -R -E -E, Three O 'Clock Session. Okay, we'll make sure we get that into the show notes. And we do have some recordings that are available online, Spotify. YouTube, all the platforms. Yeah, over 150 different digital platforms. Wow. So for 3 o 'clock session, you'll find some of the recordings. Yeah, we're in the middle of recording, trying to. There's many songs that we do, and we do many original songs, and we're trying to get them all recorded.

48:20 It's hard when we are out worshiping, you know, and. then we need to come in and have time to record. Right, right. And you've written a lot of songs. Do you have any idea how many? I don't, but a good portion of what we do is all original. We do like to do some songs that everybody knows really well, so most of what we do is original. It would be hard to say for sure, but do you think 40 or 50, Donna? Oh, I don't know. Want to put a number on it? I'm always writing. It's a bunch. Yeah. And sometimes we do songs that she hasn't written yet. It just comes spontaneously.

49:03 Yeah, sometimes. Stronger than the Lord, that was like a prophetic. I was singing something totally different. And I just felt this strong sense to start singing that out. And so that was what I would call a new song. And a lot of times. We'll do something like that. And it's just for that event, just for that moment. But that song, I felt like was one that was for not just for that evening, but I needed to grab it. But the next day I was like, oh, Lord, what chords did I? And he helped me remember what chords I was on. And so that's one of the songs that we do have recorded that a live version of it.

49:47 But yeah, sometimes that new song we'll do again later. But sometimes it's just for that moment. Yes, and the Lord deserves that. He deserves something new every moment. And even when you sing a song that you've sung before, you sing it in a new way, and it has a new quality. That's right. We never do the same song the same way twice. And we want to just also say thank you to both of you. And we're looking forward to our time with the Global Outpouring family. And several times in this visit, we've mentioned our good friend Dean Braxton. And we've had, oh my, I don't know how many services we've ministered together with Dean. And we just love that guy.

50:35 And he has such a profound testimony of his experience in clinically dead, coming back from heaven and telling the story of what that experience was like. And then Tony Kemp, another good mutual friend who is going to be one of the speakers. And we just would join with you in encouraging everyone who's listening. If there's any way that you can make it to the services in St. Louis at the Marriott Airport, we would love to connect in person and just believe it's going to be a very special time. And we just love how you are God chasers. You're going after, you love him and you want more of him, more and more and more of him. Absolutely. Yes, we'll pursue him together.

51:15 Yes. Beautiful. I think about what a wealth of material you have on this podcast, all of the people that you've had on. Thinking of your question earlier about takeaways from last year, there was one highlight that stands out to me. There was a time when we were in worship and there was a holy hush that just settled over the whole place. I don't know if you recall that, but it was prolonged. It seemed to me that it was very much participating with what the ministry is all about and this outpouring that we're all expectant of, that holy hush before the rupture of heaven is the sense that I got last year.

52:04 That's beautiful. Amen. Well, thank you so much for joining us today. And we look forward to seeing you again real soon because it's coming up soon. Check out our website at globaloutpouring .org to find out more information, read our blogs, connect with us, and donate. You can also browse our web store for life -changing anointed books.

52:46 Until next time, this is Sharon Buss. And I'm Philip Buss. God bless you with His overwhelming, loving presence.