(322) Q&A with Dean Braxton Pt. 3: Your Place in Heaven, the Intercession of Jesus’ Scars, & the Fiery Glory of God!


Part 3 of 3. This revelatory episode ends this series with a bang! At Global Outpouring Convention 2026, we had the amazing opportunity to have question and answer sessions with our dear friend, Dean Braxton, who experienced Heaven when his body died for an hour and forty-five minutes. In this session, he addresses the fiery nature of the Glory of God, why Jesus still bears His scars, thought-to-thought communication, and tongues in Heaven, as well as what Jesus told him about His return. Don’t miss this episode!
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Every scar he took for you is still on him. So
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all the shredding, all the shredding. He's more
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beautiful than you could ever imagine. Do you
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understand? When you look at him, he is beautiful.
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But the scars have never changed. You know what
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he says? By his stripes, you are healed. You
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know how it says he advocates for you? We think
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he's up there talking. No, his very body is advocating
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for you. His entire being says you have the right
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to be there. God promises in Joel 2 .28 to pour
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out His Spirit on all humanity. Welcome to Global
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Outpouring, where we contend for that promised
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outpouring, we equip for that outpouring, so
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that we may engage in that very outpouring. I'm
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Philip Buss. And I'm Sharon Buss. Welcome to
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the podcast today. We're so happy that you're
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with us. We're going to have part three now of
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the Q &A from our convention, Q &A with Dean
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Braxton. The second session that we did was so
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long that we decided we can split it into two
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episodes. So you're getting the second half of
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that second. Q &A with Dean Braxton. And he answered
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some very interesting questions. And it was very
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hard to stop them. It was almost impossible.
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People were jumping up out of the audience to
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come and ask questions because they didn't write
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down everything for me to ask. And I didn't read
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everything that they wrote either. There wasn't
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time. But we just kept going. So that means we
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get to have a third episode out of this. And
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we hope you're going to enjoy it. Thanks so much
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for joining us today. We really, really expect
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you're going to enjoy this episode and that God's
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going to speak to you through it. And he's going
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to open up something new for you. This is about
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equipping the saints because we are here on this
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planet to do on earth as it is in heaven. I really
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believe that in our generation, especially. I'm
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sure it's been for every generation, but in our
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generation especially, God is opening up so many
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testimonies of people who have been to heaven
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so that we're learning more about the culture
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of heaven and what heaven is really like. It's
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all in the Bible, and Dean is very careful about
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bringing the Word of God. to bear over what he
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says. He says, this is what I saw, and here it
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is in the Bible. So he's very clear about that.
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And I know that this is going to be a blessing
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to you. If you go out to our website, globaloutpouring
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to get the message out for contending and equipping
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and engaging the saints, equipping in particular,
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to engage in the outpouring because You know,
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the more we learn how to walk on Earth as it
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is in heaven, the more effective we're going
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to be in seeing the outpouring because we're
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creating an atmosphere for it. So enjoy this
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episode and let us know what you think. Globaloutpouring
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Let's enjoy the episode. How do you balance living
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on this planet while still walking in the supernatural?
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That's a good question. So here I am. I've come
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back to the planet. And I had told the Lord I
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would stay here until I'm 95 to get the gospel
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out to as many people as possible. At that time,
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I was 48. So, you know, I'm 68 now. I'm getting
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there. Those first few years, I was doing everything
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I can to get my checklist. I figured God had
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a checklist for me. And I needed to hurry up
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and get the checklist checked off so I could
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get out of here. Seriously, that was my goal
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the first two years. I was going around checking.
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You want me to do this? I'm checking that off.
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I'm doing this. I'm checking that. Because I
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figured every check meant getting closer to going
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home. You understand? And so my son came to me
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one night, and he was crying. And he said, Dad.
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You know, can't you go back to be the man that
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you used to be? And I was a pretty good man beforehand.
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I loved my wife, my children. I was having a
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good, you know, things were really good when
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this happened to me. It wasn't like I was at
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the bottom and you got to have a wake -up call.
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I was at the top of my life at the moment. And
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as he was saying these things to me, I was thinking,
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I don't want to go back to be the same man I
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used to be. Because I'm telling you the truth,
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you guys. I don't have the same fears that I
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had. You know what I mean? I had fears, you know,
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I was a Christian, but I didn't want nobody to
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question my Christianity. You know, I wouldn't,
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I would never set like this as a question and
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answering and just take them like this, you know,
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before I had fears. Are you asking me? Oh, no.
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You know, those type of things. You know, I was
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always afraid someone would find out the true
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me. You understand what I mean? Because, you
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know, we want to have that mask in front and
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we want people to think we're like this. But
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behind the scenes, we got this other person.
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So I but all those fears were gone. It didn't
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matter if you knew who I was. I still get to
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go to heaven. I mean, that was freedom to me.
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That's freedom. You don't like me. That's OK.
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I still get to go. You don't like what I'm saying.
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You don't agree with what I'm saying. OK, I still
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get to go. Do you understand what I mean? And
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so all those things were gone, and I was free.
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I think, I don't want to go back to be that man
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I used to be, you know? And he threw out the
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trump card, I call it. He said, Dad, can't you
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just pray? I thought, oh, I don't want to pray
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to be the man I used to be. You guys get this,
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you know? And he left the room crying. He was
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about 22 at the time, and he left the room crying.
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And I remember laying in, I was in my bed at
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the time. I was laying in the bed, and I said,
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Lord. how do I live here? How do I walk on this
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planet? Because that's what I looked at it. No
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longer was I part of the planet. I just walked
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on the surface of it until I walked away. You
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know what I'm saying? Like that, you know. And
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this is what Jesus said to me. He said, do it
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the way I did. And I said, we're all supposed
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to be doing it the way you did. So that's how
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I learned to walk in this. I'm just doing it
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the way Jesus did. He gave us an example of how
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to do it. Yes. And we just follow his example.
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Is that good news? I know it's simple. You know,
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I could write in a book and give you five great
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ways to follow Jesus, but the reality of it,
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you've got the Word of God, and it tells you
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how to follow him. Is that good news? Beautiful.
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Did you meet Elijah? Did I meet Elijah? I did
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meet Elijah, you know. Elijah, Elisha. Eli Joe
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was the question. I'm glad I met both of them.
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Okay. I did meet him. And how I met him, Elijah
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was walking past me and he was going this way.
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Communication, you don't have to stop and talk
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to someone for a long time. Communication can
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be real quick to get a lot of information. It's
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always, you know, from thought to thought. You
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could open your mouth and talk if you wanted
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to. But we communicated thought to thought. And
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how we did it, Claire, so you can hear this part
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of it, because I think it's really unique. We
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did it with pictures. It wasn't words. If I was
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going to talk about this iPad, I'd just give
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you the picture. What does that tell you about
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the Hebrew language? It's pictures. Is that cool?
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Even the language that God gave them was a heavenly
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language. Now, we put it into words, but in reality,
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it's pictures. Is this cool? Is this cool? All
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right. So in saying that to you, so Elijah, when
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he was walking by, we communicated really quick.
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He had a big smile on his face. Anna asked me
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that earlier. She wanted to know, does he have
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joy or something? Because we think of, which
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like she said with the Jesus, we think of those
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guys always serious and stern and everything.
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Man, you want to have joy, go to heaven. My entire
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family, when they came to greet me in, all had
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a big smile. They were all grinning. Every one
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of them was grinning. You don't get it. I always
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tell people, you know you're in heaven when your
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entire family's grinning all at the same time.
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It is a joyful place. You know, ain't nobody
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sad up in heaven. Ain't nobody worried about
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anything. Ain't nobody got things to talk about.
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Like, oh, you don't know how life is up here.
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You know, that type of stuff, you know. I'm just
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letting you know that because I just want you
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to understand that he was smiling when he went
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by me. I would challenge you to think about those
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Bible characters as funny people with a lot of
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joy. We think of them as serious. studying, you
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know, think about them. Think about Peter and
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John playing jokes on each other. Think about
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it. Good jokes. Like what? Give us an example.
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I saw, this is what I saw. I saw this creation
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of God or being of God. You could say it was
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a little boy, but it wasn't a boy. I always tell
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people what we call children in heaven are really
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complete. That's where they're at. That's where
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God has them. They're complete. Because there's
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no time in heaven and there's no, like you can
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grow from one moment to the next moment. No,
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there's no time. So on the planet, we have time.
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That's how we measure people being here. But
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in heaven, there's no time. So there were beings
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that looked like children, but they weren't children.
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They were complete. That's what I always tell
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people, okay? There's no time. How do you measure
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someone's growth when there's no time? You're
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out of time. OK, so I wanted to say that because
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I saw this one being looked like a children,
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wasn't a child, but shooting straight up in the
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air. And I saw the living water just make an
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arch like this. Like this. You know, just like
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this. And this one being was shooting so straight
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up. And all of a sudden, the water splits open
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like this. Okay? Just on both sides. And the
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being, the little boy, went through and got on
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the other side and just stood there because you
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could stand there. It's like walking on water.
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You know what I mean? There's no fear in heaven,
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so you can go as high as you want. Yeah. It doesn't
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exist. Falling doesn't exist. Yeah, it doesn't
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fall. He stood there for a while and it seemed
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like the water was saying, ha ha, you missed
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me. You know, who's going to believe that? I
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didn't think it at the time. I thought about
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it when I came back to the planet. Who's going
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to believe that could happen in heaven? But it's
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going to be so much joy. You know what I mean?
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And so I could see us doing funny things with
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each other. You know what I mean? Just to have
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a laugh. And the person that you do it with,
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they'll be laughing too. You know, I know Bill,
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my friend Bill, he loves to do jokes. I mean,
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he's looking forward to it because he comes,
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he can get up there and joke a whole lot. You
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know what I mean? And people will laugh at his
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jokes up there. But there's no putting anybody
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down. There's no putting anybody down. What about
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sarcasm? Is sarcasm? No, no sarcasm. None of
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that, right? No, none of that. No one, no. The
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truth, we have truth. We go with truth. Truth
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is truth. That is beautiful. God's truth, not
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our truth, is truth. Amen. What was the atmosphere
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like and what are the buildings like? Okay, the
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atmosphere was a goldish white. It wasn't blue
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like we have here. Our atmosphere is made up
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of water, so it's blue. But in heaven, it was
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a goldish white. When I described the color,
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someone said it. I'm telling them it's like a
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sunrise. You know how you see the sunrise and
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it looks so pretty? And the yellow and the white
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kind of blend together. I call it a goldish white.
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And it's alive. It's intelligent. It can speak
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to you. And I know sometimes we have a hard time
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with that because some people think, well, what
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am I breathing in? But you're living off of Jesus.
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You're not living off of the atmosphere anymore.
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You're not living off the... food we have on
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the planet, all that stuff. You're living off
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of Jesus or the Father only, okay, with the Holy
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Spirit residing on the inside of you. I always
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have to put that in there. So in saying that
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to you. the atmosphere and the scripture references
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when it says the seven thunders spoke remember
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it said the seven thunders spoke and it said
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there wasn't trumpets that it was it was the
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seven thunders and John wanted to write what
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they said and then he was told not to write down
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what they said remember that yeah so they're
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alive they can talk to you there and it's more
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than one atmosphere we say seven there's a whole
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bunch of atmosphere they can talk God is a creative
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God. So he has more than one, you know. And none
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of you are going to be surprised about it because
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the Holy Spirit already knows that on the inside
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of you. He's just going to have the freedom to
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say, hey, this is true. This is the way it is.
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Is that good news? Beautiful. And then the buildings?
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Yeah. Okay. The buildings, there's so many structures
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of God that is created there. Now, we always
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go to that one scripture that says, in my Father's
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house are many mansions, and we use the word
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mansion, and we think we're all going to get
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a big mansion in heaven. And then it says, I
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go to prepare a place for you. And when I got
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to heaven, I came to understand that I didn't
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have a mansion like people think you have a mansion.
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Okay. I did have a place in heaven. That's just
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for me. Okay. Even the word that really, when
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you break it down in the Greek means dwelling
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place. If you really break it down. Okay. And
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when I went to Bible school, they told me it
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was like an apartment. And I said, oh man, I
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don't want to live in no apartment. I want to
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go back to Lisa mansion. But if you really break
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it down, it means space. And this is what got
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me when I realized. What was really being said
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in that scripture was that, you know, a place
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and then it goes down to space. There's a space
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in heaven for you that no one else could fulfill
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but you. And it's not a physical space. There's
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a space in the family of God that no one else
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could fulfill but you. In my family, I'm number
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two. And I'm number one today. You know what
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I mean? I'm number two. I got older brother and
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then I got two younger brothers. If I am to leave
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this planet or die, my number three, third brother
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here doesn't move up into number two. It was
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my space. You guys get this? It's good. There
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is a space in heaven that only, and Jesus says,
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I go to really prepare a place for you in my
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family that no one else could fulfill but you.
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Is that cool? Is that cool? I know the mansion
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and somebody said, well, I want my mansion. I
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want that. Well, the reality of it, you don't
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need it anymore. Okay. Everything is perfect.
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And now I'm going to get a little more detail
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in that. The atmosphere around you is perfect.
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How you like it is the way the atmosphere around
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you is. Like Phil, if he was there, his atmosphere
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would be different than your atmosphere. Someone
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say, how can that be? That's God. You know, he's
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that detail. Is that cool? Is that cool? Well,
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well, well. You know, that the atmosphere around
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you is created for you. And you say, well, what
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about when I get tired? You don't get tired.
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Your spirit never goes to sleep now. It doesn't
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go to sleep when you sleep. Your body goes to
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sleep, but your spirit is always moving around.
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You know what I mean? So it has different parameters
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in there. The buildings do have a reason. When
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I went into the buildings, because I did go into
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buildings. I ended up in a different realm every
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time. A different realm. A whole different realm.
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I think, this is Dean Braxton, C .S. Lewis must
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have had a glimpse of that when he wrote The
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Chronicles of Narnia. And the one that talks
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about the musician and the nephew, he talks about
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there's a realm that you could go into to go
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into different worlds. If you jump into the pool.
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You guys hear me? And I when I was there, it
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was like when you went into a building, you were
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all in a whole different realm. You know, it's
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almost like I don't want to use this one because
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I'm going to, but it's almost like when Star
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Trek had their virtual room where they could
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be in that realm and it would be a whole different,
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you know, they could be at the ocean or they
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could be somewhere. So the holodeck. Yeah. And
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literally, literally, you go into these buildings
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and you're in a whole different world. You know?
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Heavens is still expanding. I don't know what
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is expanding it. It's getting bigger every moment.
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He just didn't create it and that's it. Okay?
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It's still expanding. Inside and out. Is that
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cool? Is that cool? Is that sort of like you've
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got numbers? Go continuous forever. Forever.
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Going in both directions. In both directions.
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You know, all those different directions. Even
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when you were describing the sounds, you know,
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how we get to this side. Yeah. We can't see all
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the light. You know, we can't see that side and
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that side. You know, it's continuous still. It
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doesn't stop. Yeah. You know, just because we
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have not discovered what it is yet, someday maybe
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someone will. It's still there. Yes, and continuing.
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And continuous. I love it. There is no end. How
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do you measure eternity? You don't. There's no
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measure for it. Wow. I did two question and answerings
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years ago. I don't think you were with me, Rick,
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when I did these. One I said was seven hours
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long, and the other one was six and a half hours
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long. Wow. Yeah. And what made it really longer
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were the kids. Kids ask the best questions, you
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guys. You know, we're staying within the theological
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stuff, but the kids, they go, you know. I always
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tell people, kids ask the best questions. And
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one of the examples I give is this father was
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telling me about his daughter, and they were
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praying about this dog. Did I tell you the story?
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And they were praying about this dog that had
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died. And the father prayed first, and then it'd
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be like Michael. Okay, I'm going to use you.
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It'd be like Michael prays first and he prays
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for this dog and everything like that. Dog has
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died already. And then your little girl gets
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up and she starts praying because it was a little
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girl that started praying. And the first thing
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the little girl said is, God, heal my dog. That's
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what she said. And the dad stopped and said,
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honey, honey, honey. She looked at him and said,
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I'm not talking to you. I'm talking to God. Yeah.
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That's the mindset they have. You understand
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what I mean? So when I go and do question and
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answering, if little kids are in it, they are
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going to go there. And they ask, one of them
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asked me, does Jesus have a belly button? You
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know what I mean? Yeah, he has a belly button.
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He had to have one because he had to die as a
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human being on the planet, you know. That belly
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button, I'm waiting for someone to write that
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book called Jesus Has a Belly Button. But they've
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asked so many great questions, you know. That's
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great. I was in an elementary school. Michelle
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was there, and Bill was there. You were there
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when we went to that elementary school. Remember
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all those kids asking you all those questions?
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It was so beautiful, you know. They were asking,
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and they asked questions. Is there dinosaurs?
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Of course, the boys want to know if the dinosaurs
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are there, you know. Some good girls want to
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know if there's unicorns there and things like
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that. And what did you tell them? Everybody wants
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to know that. The unicorns is easy because even
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if you go in the Bible and you Google it, it
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says unicorn or unicorns, you'll find there's
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references to them even in the Bible. Okay. And
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so, yeah, they're there. They're there, you guys.
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And then the dinosaurs, I tell people there are
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creations that we would call dinosaurs, but they're
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not dinosaurs. And most people don't realize
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that most of the dinosaurs were real small. They
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weren't big. We got the big ones, and then we
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got the little big ones. And we still got them
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today. They're called birds. They're all around
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us. Interesting, huh? So I love to sit down with
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them because they have no boundaries in there.
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And they're not worried about me showing the
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video, whether I died or not. You went to heaven?
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Tell us about it. They always ask me this, though.
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One, somebody asked me, someone asked me, did
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you see my dog when you were there? They always
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want to know about their pets. You know what
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I'm talking about? Yeah. Pardon me? I don't know
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the criteria of how they get in, and God makes
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a difference there. I do know if we look at Leviticus
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and we read in the book of Leviticus, we find
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out that there are animals that are evil animals.
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Ticks. Ticks. Yeah, ticks. Chiggers. Chiggers.
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Spiders. Yeah. I do know when Adam messed up,
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things got perverted. Yeah. And some things that
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were not supposed all of a sudden took on a different
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form, a different attitude and started doing
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things they weren't supposed to. They became
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predators and prey. They became, yeah. Usually
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I don't really try to get into that that much,
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you know. I just want you to treat your animals
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right right now. One time we were in New Zealand,
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me and Rick, and one guy asked me when he gets
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to heaven, is he going to have a stampede of
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cows because he was a cattle rancher? I'm not
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into killing animals, but I will tell you what
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came out of my mouth. I said, yeah, they're going
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to all run up to you and say, you should have
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done this a long time ago. Because they in heaven
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now. But I'm not asking you to kill your animals.
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Do you understand what I mean? I got to make
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sure. Remember that, Rick? That's funny. So how
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do animals feel like when you want to eat meat
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and you slaughter animals? It would be more not
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asking how animals feel as much as it would be
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how God feels. Okay. How does God feel about
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it? He's okayed it. He okayed it, you guys. So
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do they feel like they're giving themselves as
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a sacrifice? We didn't get into that conversation
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when I was up there. Well, we have yet to find
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out. I didn't go to any of the lambs that were
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killed on the altar and say, hey, did you feel
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like you were doing a great honor to us? If they
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have the same thinking that we do, no one's really
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talking about how they left the planet. You know,
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they died in a car accident or they died because
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of some disease. It's no longer an issue there.
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They're there. You know what I mean? The lady
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told me how she left the planet, and it's because
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she was telling me how she ministered in the
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caves. And I don't really, to this day, know
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why she picked me out to tell me that. I'm thinking
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I will probably run into her family somewhere.
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You know, somewhere I'll run into this family,
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and they'll say, you're talking about my great
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-great -grandmother, or you're talking about
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my Aunt Chozo, you know, somebody like that.
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Beautiful. I know when I was there, I was...
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I'm carried with a kidney stone and I got sepsis
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and I left the planet. I wasn't healthy. And
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I wasn't even trying to think about how, you
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know, all I knew is when I saw Jesus, I knew
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he got me there and all I could do was thank
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him. You know, so all those animals, they were
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probably thinking the same thing. It's not a
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discussion. You know, the biggest discussion
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out there is getting people down on the planet
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to know Jesus Christ is Lord and Savior. That's
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the main thing. You know how it says it's going
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to have a new earth and a new heaven? Yes. And
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it's going to be the fire is going to. Remember,
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you guys? Yeah. The fire for us that are born
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again is really the glory of God. Beautiful.
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Jesus said something to me when I was there.
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He talked about Sodom and Gomorrah. And this
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is how he said it. And God came. That's what
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he said. We call it fire and brimstone. You know
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what I mean? The glory of God. We call fire and
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brimstone. The glory of God showed up in Sodom
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and Gomorrah. That which is sin cannot stand
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in the presence of the glory of God. Amen. You
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want to go a little bit deeper? Yes. The lake
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of fire is the glory of God. No, it's not for
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us. We're okay with it. It's his glory. But those
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that don't know Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior,
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sin, I mean. God's glory is terrible for them.
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Right. So when you read your word and you see
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the fire, it's God's glory. Is that right? See,
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we're thinking we're on that side. We're not.
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We're on this side. We call it consuming. You
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guys getting this? Yes. It's consuming fire for
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us. It's the glory of God. We always say we want
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the fire. We want the fire. People that don't
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know Jesus Christ and the glory of the Savior,
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they don't want the fire. Yeah. You find that
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out when you get there. His glory. What they
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think is bad is good for us. You got a question?
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Yeah, we're going to let you. since you came
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all the way from Salt Lake. I just wondered,
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what was the significance of when Jesus was on
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the cross that they didn't break his bones? Was
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that significant, or is it just that they didn't?
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Like, because you're being hit the way he was,
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why didn't any of them break, and was there some
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significance to that? That's a great question.
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And I'm going to tell you, the Bible said it
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wouldn't happen, number one. It's in the scripture
00:27:47.819 --> 00:27:52.539
said they wouldn't break bones. Our bones give
00:27:52.539 --> 00:27:56.339
us the form of who we are. If you think about
00:27:56.339 --> 00:27:59.660
it, our bones don't deteriorate like our flesh
00:27:59.660 --> 00:28:03.599
does. We are still finding bones that are, you
00:28:03.599 --> 00:28:06.759
know, thousands and thousands of years old. It's
00:28:06.759 --> 00:28:09.420
true. You understand what I mean? That skeleton
00:28:09.420 --> 00:28:12.819
that we made to be looking evil was really a
00:28:12.819 --> 00:28:17.059
good thing in God's eye. You know how we get
00:28:17.059 --> 00:28:19.980
the crossbones and skull and all that stuff?
00:28:20.140 --> 00:28:23.440
But in God's eye, the skeleton really represents
00:28:23.440 --> 00:28:28.900
eternity. Ooh. And there's a scripture in Psalms
00:28:28.900 --> 00:28:32.140
that says, all my bones will say, Yehovah, who
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is like you? Yeah. So it's like our bones are
00:28:36.000 --> 00:28:39.480
still. Still speaking that even though they're
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just laying there. So I can see God not wanting
00:28:42.579 --> 00:28:45.779
the bones to be broken because of what they really
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represent in the spiritual realm. Yeah. When
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you get to heaven, okay, and you get your glorified
00:28:52.880 --> 00:28:56.839
body, guess what you're going to have? Glorified
00:28:56.839 --> 00:28:58.640
bones? You're going to have bones, glorified
00:28:58.640 --> 00:29:04.109
bones. You know? See, on the planet, because
00:29:04.109 --> 00:29:06.849
of the deterioration, we don't get to experience
00:29:06.849 --> 00:29:09.509
what the fullness of what God had created. Because
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Adam had bones. Eve had bones. And they were
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never to deteriorate. Think about it. You know?
00:29:19.500 --> 00:29:22.259
I always say, and there was another thing that
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we are going to experience. We're going to really
00:29:24.559 --> 00:29:28.319
know what it's like to be one true being. And
00:29:28.319 --> 00:29:31.200
what I mean by that is now we are spirit, soul,
00:29:31.380 --> 00:29:34.920
and body. When you get your glorified body, you're
00:29:34.920 --> 00:29:38.380
just one. It's all together. That's why Jesus,
00:29:38.460 --> 00:29:40.519
when he came back on the planet, he could go
00:29:40.519 --> 00:29:43.599
through these walls like anything. He has his
00:29:43.599 --> 00:29:47.190
body. You know what I mean? With flesh on it.
00:29:47.230 --> 00:29:51.049
But he could go through the walls. But we've
00:29:51.049 --> 00:29:53.789
made them evil because, you know, you know what
00:29:53.789 --> 00:29:56.829
I'm talking about. But anybody in that warlock
00:29:56.829 --> 00:30:00.930
group, you know, witches and things, they honor
00:30:00.930 --> 00:30:06.329
the bones highly. And they know something about
00:30:06.329 --> 00:30:10.089
the bones. So this whole death culture that we've
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got. Young people wearing all kinds of bones
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on their clothes and stuff. Yeah. How do we pray
00:30:17.089 --> 00:30:20.890
and redeem that? That would be even more than
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just redeem it from the young people, because
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I really think it's more than that. It's our
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society that's been taught that the bones are
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evil. I mean, we've been taught this for generations.
00:30:32.990 --> 00:30:35.089
You know what I mean? It's not just something
00:30:35.089 --> 00:30:37.349
that just came out now where people have put
00:30:37.349 --> 00:30:39.990
it out there. But we've used the bones in a bad
00:30:39.990 --> 00:30:43.250
way for a long time. Yeah, like Halloween is
00:30:43.250 --> 00:30:48.829
all about skeletons and bones. I'm waiting for
00:30:48.829 --> 00:30:50.890
someone to go through the Bible and really study
00:30:50.890 --> 00:30:53.589
this out. This is not my area. You know what
00:30:53.589 --> 00:30:55.509
I'm saying? One time I was going to get a doctor.
00:30:55.609 --> 00:30:57.069
He was going to do it, and then he went on to
00:30:57.069 --> 00:31:03.309
be with Jesus. And so he didn't, because the
00:31:03.309 --> 00:31:05.809
bones have the life in it. You know, the marrow
00:31:05.809 --> 00:31:08.650
breaks life. That's true. You know what I'm talking
00:31:08.650 --> 00:31:11.950
about? And so there's a significant spiritual
00:31:11.950 --> 00:31:15.509
aspect to our skeletons that has not really been
00:31:15.509 --> 00:31:20.990
brought out. Okay. You got a question over there?
00:31:21.250 --> 00:31:26.569
Come on. Okay, my question is in regard to what
00:31:26.569 --> 00:31:29.430
you shared about us being in heaven, when you
00:31:29.430 --> 00:31:32.500
were in heaven. We didn't speak English to English,
00:31:32.539 --> 00:31:37.299
but thought to thought. Yes. My question to you
00:31:37.299 --> 00:31:45.359
is, have you experienced that here on Earth since
00:31:45.359 --> 00:31:49.039
you've been back, that maybe you, for example,
00:31:49.140 --> 00:31:53.000
thought of a person that you haven't seen or
00:31:53.000 --> 00:31:56.220
heard of from in a long time, and when you were
00:31:56.220 --> 00:31:58.640
thinking about them in the next few minutes or
00:31:58.640 --> 00:32:01.150
within that day, They either like called you
00:32:01.150 --> 00:32:07.829
or showed up. And is that, okay, for me personally,
00:32:07.930 --> 00:32:11.470
I've had several of those experiences. And I
00:32:11.470 --> 00:32:15.730
asked the Lord about it. And I heard that the
00:32:15.730 --> 00:32:21.009
veil is getting thinner and thinner. And when
00:32:21.009 --> 00:32:24.130
you say that, you got to understand, let's go
00:32:24.130 --> 00:32:26.750
back to the foundation. The foundation is all
00:32:26.750 --> 00:32:29.519
of us are connected. Every one of us connected.
00:32:30.180 --> 00:32:32.299
Us that are born again know Jesus Christ as Lord
00:32:32.299 --> 00:32:33.980
and Savior. We're connected. How are we connected?
00:32:34.220 --> 00:32:37.539
We're connected through the what? Divine. Divine.
00:32:37.660 --> 00:32:41.160
And we are the what? Bridges. So every one of
00:32:41.160 --> 00:32:44.019
us is connected. What stops us from being able
00:32:44.019 --> 00:32:48.660
to communicate in that pure way is that we got
00:32:48.660 --> 00:32:51.119
our flesh. And our flesh stops us a lot of times.
00:32:51.279 --> 00:32:54.359
But every once in a while, our flesh. is moved
00:32:54.359 --> 00:32:56.660
to the side and we can communicate that way.
00:32:56.940 --> 00:32:59.240
Husband and wives get that way after a while.
00:32:59.619 --> 00:33:02.579
You know, you probably, Nancy, could finish your
00:33:02.579 --> 00:33:05.079
sentence in a moment. You know what I mean? And
00:33:05.079 --> 00:33:07.559
you probably think, oh, Nancy's back there. And
00:33:07.559 --> 00:33:11.400
you probably think, oh, she just, no, she's getting
00:33:11.400 --> 00:33:15.460
them information, thought to thought. So is that
00:33:15.460 --> 00:33:17.799
really spirit to spirit? The spirit to spirit,
00:33:17.900 --> 00:33:21.140
you could say it that way. But when you're in
00:33:21.140 --> 00:33:23.700
heaven, there's no longer that. there any longer.
00:33:23.859 --> 00:33:28.420
So you can, you know, people always say, you
00:33:28.420 --> 00:33:31.039
didn't see everybody there. You're right. But
00:33:31.039 --> 00:33:36.359
I was connected to everybody. Oh, Sheila. You
00:33:36.359 --> 00:33:40.519
know, just like you're connected. Oh, we won't.
00:33:40.519 --> 00:33:48.380
Well, okay. We go. We'll go so far because some
00:33:48.380 --> 00:33:50.759
of the people I can't, they're not, they're having
00:33:50.759 --> 00:33:54.539
a hard time. with this. And so this doesn't get
00:33:54.539 --> 00:33:56.200
you into heaven. Jesus does. They don't even
00:33:56.200 --> 00:33:58.539
have to believe a word I'm saying. Jesus gets
00:33:58.539 --> 00:34:00.220
you there. Because I know when you get there,
00:34:00.259 --> 00:34:03.019
you're going to know all this anyway. You know,
00:34:03.079 --> 00:34:05.539
those barriers are no longer going to be there
00:34:05.539 --> 00:34:15.300
to stop you from moving in that direction. I'm
00:34:15.300 --> 00:34:18.679
wondering what it's like to be at his feet. What
00:34:18.679 --> 00:34:21.079
it's like to be at his feet? Yes. When I was
00:34:21.079 --> 00:34:24.099
at the feet of Jesus and the love was coming
00:34:24.099 --> 00:34:27.679
off his feet and out of his feet toward me, I
00:34:27.679 --> 00:34:30.400
never wanted to move. I did not want to move.
00:34:31.280 --> 00:34:35.099
Really, when people start asking me to describe
00:34:35.099 --> 00:34:40.500
what he looks like, my insight says, I want to
00:34:40.500 --> 00:34:43.269
just tell you what his feet look like. Because
00:34:43.269 --> 00:34:45.110
it doesn't matter what he looks like. You're
00:34:45.110 --> 00:34:46.650
before your Lord and Lord and King of Kings.
00:34:46.869 --> 00:34:49.510
And the love that's coming out of him or off
00:34:49.510 --> 00:34:52.409
of him to you, you know, I always say his feet
00:34:52.409 --> 00:34:56.590
loved me. How do you describe that? You know
00:34:56.590 --> 00:35:00.250
what I mean? So that's what it was like to be
00:35:00.250 --> 00:35:02.489
there. And I could have stayed there forever.
00:35:02.929 --> 00:35:06.010
So did you see the nail scars? I did see the
00:35:06.010 --> 00:35:09.269
nail scars. You know, and I saw the nail scars
00:35:09.269 --> 00:35:11.590
in the feet and I saw the nail scars in the hands.
00:35:11.929 --> 00:35:16.070
And I'll go there. It wasn't that there was just
00:35:16.070 --> 00:35:18.730
one print of nail scars. They were in both places.
00:35:19.269 --> 00:35:22.710
They were in the palm and also in the wrist.
00:35:23.230 --> 00:35:26.590
And if you read your Bible, it says nails. It
00:35:26.590 --> 00:35:29.130
doesn't say in the hands. It doesn't say two
00:35:29.130 --> 00:35:33.650
nails. It says nails. And we always think that
00:35:33.650 --> 00:35:38.110
it's just one nail in each. And I and that was
00:35:38.110 --> 00:35:41.489
out of my my box. I will tell you that. And I
00:35:41.489 --> 00:35:43.829
I did look. That was one of the few I went to
00:35:43.829 --> 00:35:45.250
the scriptures. I said, now, let me look this
00:35:45.250 --> 00:35:49.750
up, Lord. And then and then I saw that it didn't
00:35:49.750 --> 00:35:51.849
say the number of nails. Do you understand what
00:35:51.849 --> 00:35:54.309
I'm talking about? And then I thought to myself
00:35:54.309 --> 00:35:56.610
and I said to him, I said, why would that be?
00:35:56.710 --> 00:35:58.670
Because they wanted him to stay on that cross.
00:36:00.789 --> 00:36:02.929
You know, this is a man that did all these miracles.
00:36:03.309 --> 00:36:06.380
They knew that. Those people that nailed him
00:36:06.380 --> 00:36:08.280
to the cross, you could say the demons and devils
00:36:08.280 --> 00:36:10.320
and evil spirits, but those people knew that
00:36:10.320 --> 00:36:12.159
he did all these miracles and they wanted him
00:36:12.159 --> 00:36:16.559
to stay on that cross. Wow. So they weren't going
00:36:16.559 --> 00:36:18.980
to put him up there with little scotch tape.
00:36:21.239 --> 00:36:24.280
No bungee cords. No bungee cords. They were going
00:36:24.280 --> 00:36:27.659
to make sure he stayed. And so when you get there,
00:36:27.719 --> 00:36:29.119
you're going to see he has to nail. You want
00:36:29.119 --> 00:36:31.360
to know something else about Jesus? When you
00:36:31.360 --> 00:36:33.280
really get to see him, you're going to see that.
00:36:33.719 --> 00:36:36.380
And now I know he presents himself on the planet
00:36:36.380 --> 00:36:39.340
to you many ways. Okay. But in heaven, when you
00:36:39.340 --> 00:36:42.159
get to see him, you get to see him as he is.
00:36:42.780 --> 00:36:47.260
And the scars are still on him. Every scar he
00:36:47.260 --> 00:36:51.840
took for you is still on him. You know what I
00:36:51.840 --> 00:36:54.059
mean? So all the shredding. All the shredding.
00:36:54.179 --> 00:36:56.519
He's more beautiful than you could ever imagine.
00:36:57.179 --> 00:36:59.199
Do you understand? When you look at him, he is
00:36:59.199 --> 00:37:02.750
beautiful. But the scars had never changed. You
00:37:02.750 --> 00:37:04.889
know what? He says, by his stripes you are healed.
00:37:05.710 --> 00:37:07.969
You know how it says he advocates for you? We
00:37:07.969 --> 00:37:10.989
think he's up there talking. No, his very body
00:37:10.989 --> 00:37:15.230
is advocating for you. His entire being says
00:37:15.230 --> 00:37:20.630
you have the right to be there. Wow. So he carries
00:37:20.630 --> 00:37:24.659
the scars still, you know. I didn't know that
00:37:24.659 --> 00:37:27.300
until, well, I had the picture of Jesus being,
00:37:27.380 --> 00:37:29.980
when I was there saying, you did this for me,
00:37:30.019 --> 00:37:31.719
all of a sudden he showed me this picture of
00:37:31.719 --> 00:37:34.280
him being on the cross. And he's showing me all
00:37:34.280 --> 00:37:36.179
the things that he had to go through in hell.
00:37:36.239 --> 00:37:39.139
I remember Sharon even told you that. And I didn't
00:37:39.139 --> 00:37:41.260
really understand the significance of the spraying
00:37:41.260 --> 00:37:44.719
of the blood, like spurting out of him until
00:37:44.719 --> 00:37:47.320
she told me what it meant with Jewish customs.
00:37:47.699 --> 00:37:51.650
Yeah, the Hebrew word for the spurt. The Hebrew
00:37:51.650 --> 00:37:56.070
word in that in Isaiah 52, like the next to the
00:37:56.070 --> 00:37:59.570
last verse. And so you're coming back to the
00:37:59.570 --> 00:38:02.110
planet. And remember, this is outside my boxes.
00:38:02.150 --> 00:38:04.070
This is not how I thought it was going to be.
00:38:04.150 --> 00:38:06.130
And the next thing along, there it is in the
00:38:06.130 --> 00:38:08.449
word of God. You know, that's one of the reasons
00:38:08.449 --> 00:38:10.369
I'm so strong on that word of God is because
00:38:10.369 --> 00:38:13.110
I thought a lot of this wouldn't be in there.
00:38:15.539 --> 00:38:20.219
I thought for sure. But it is. You're probably
00:38:20.219 --> 00:38:22.960
still going to find the other 1%. Yeah. As you
00:38:22.960 --> 00:38:28.079
read. Yeah, the 1%. But I'd say that about the
00:38:28.079 --> 00:38:31.159
body. But he's more beautiful than you can imagine.
00:38:31.320 --> 00:38:33.519
I don't like to tell people a lot of times because
00:38:33.519 --> 00:38:35.900
we get this image, oh, he's all scarred up and
00:38:35.900 --> 00:38:38.880
he looks bad. But no one's thinking that way.
00:38:39.059 --> 00:38:41.159
He's more beautiful than you can ever imagine.
00:38:41.400 --> 00:38:44.179
When I looked at him, I just. thought, you did
00:38:44.179 --> 00:38:48.079
this for me. That's all I could think of. I wasn't
00:38:48.079 --> 00:38:50.659
thinking about what he looked like. All I could
00:38:50.659 --> 00:38:55.260
think about is what he did for me. And I just
00:38:55.260 --> 00:38:58.960
thanked him so much. I just wanted to thank him.
00:38:59.019 --> 00:39:01.900
I was so grateful that he died on that cross
00:39:01.900 --> 00:39:04.480
for me and went through all that for me to be
00:39:04.480 --> 00:39:08.460
there with you. I just, I mean, you think you
00:39:08.460 --> 00:39:10.280
appreciate him now. Get to heaven. You're going
00:39:10.280 --> 00:39:14.500
to really appreciate him. To find out you never
00:39:14.500 --> 00:39:17.619
die. That you don't have to go through the sting
00:39:17.619 --> 00:39:21.880
of death. That he took your curse. It becomes
00:39:21.880 --> 00:39:27.940
a reality. Wow. Was part of his beard missing?
00:39:28.320 --> 00:39:34.679
Was part of his beard missing. That's too physical,
00:39:34.760 --> 00:39:40.619
huh? No, that's not. Sometimes you get way out
00:39:40.619 --> 00:39:44.159
there for people and there's no death in hair.
00:39:44.340 --> 00:39:46.300
I mean, there's no death. Yeah, there's no death
00:39:46.300 --> 00:39:52.000
in hair. Hair is alive in heaven. Everything
00:39:52.000 --> 00:39:57.099
is alive. So our hair is dead, particles. In
00:39:57.099 --> 00:40:04.159
heaven, your hair is alive. If you want it to.
00:40:05.630 --> 00:40:07.750
The question was, does it grow? And the answer
00:40:07.750 --> 00:40:11.210
was, if you wanted to. If you wanted to grow,
00:40:11.449 --> 00:40:16.349
you have the... Oh, boy. Let's get this question
00:40:16.349 --> 00:40:25.590
here so I can get out of this. When you were
00:40:25.590 --> 00:40:31.429
speaking about thought to thought. Yes. You weren't
00:40:31.429 --> 00:40:34.570
thinking in English, were you? Yeah, that's good
00:40:34.570 --> 00:40:40.789
news. No, I wasn't. Do we think in tongues? We
00:40:40.789 --> 00:40:43.829
think in tongues. Let me tell you about your
00:40:43.829 --> 00:40:48.409
tongues. Here on earth, can we not think inside
00:40:48.409 --> 00:40:51.909
in tongues? You can. Even if we don't know. You've
00:40:51.909 --> 00:40:54.210
got to understand what tongues is. Tongues is
00:40:54.210 --> 00:40:56.010
your heavenly language. It's your language that
00:40:56.010 --> 00:40:58.750
God gives you to what? Communicate to him. The
00:40:58.750 --> 00:41:01.139
Bible tells us that in Romans. Am I correct?
00:41:01.400 --> 00:41:04.619
Our first Corinthians. It tells us that in Corinthians.
00:41:04.719 --> 00:41:08.360
I think the 14th chapter. Okay. It tells us that.
00:41:08.420 --> 00:41:10.619
When you get to heaven, you don't lose that.
00:41:11.119 --> 00:41:14.480
You have your language. Everybody has their own
00:41:14.480 --> 00:41:17.119
language in heaven. Yeah. If you communicate
00:41:17.119 --> 00:41:20.019
with another person, it's the same thing. You're
00:41:20.019 --> 00:41:22.960
communicating in your tongues to their tongues.
00:41:23.300 --> 00:41:26.539
And they understand. It comes back to the day
00:41:26.539 --> 00:41:29.360
of Pentecost. When they were all speaking in
00:41:29.360 --> 00:41:31.639
tongues and everybody heard in their own language.
00:41:32.139 --> 00:41:35.460
Yes. Yes. Yes. Is that cool? Is that cool? That
00:41:35.460 --> 00:41:38.280
is cool. You know, and let me, because you got
00:41:38.280 --> 00:41:39.820
to understand, because you'll go to Corinthians,
00:41:40.079 --> 00:41:42.239
the first Corinthians, the 13th chapter. Yes.
00:41:42.280 --> 00:41:44.659
The verse where it says tongues will cease. You
00:41:44.659 --> 00:41:47.059
know, it says tongues will cease. Okay. That
00:41:47.059 --> 00:41:49.300
word cease, if you really look at it in the Greek
00:41:49.300 --> 00:41:54.460
means pause. Okay. And it really means it takes
00:41:54.460 --> 00:41:56.320
on a different meaning. It's no longer a tongue
00:41:56.320 --> 00:42:00.119
to you. It's your language. No longer do you
00:42:00.119 --> 00:42:03.900
speak English or Italian or Spanish. It's your
00:42:03.900 --> 00:42:06.639
language. And that's one of the reasons I think
00:42:06.639 --> 00:42:10.159
that the enemy attacks dogs. You know, we say
00:42:10.159 --> 00:42:12.519
because you can't understand us. It's your language.
00:42:13.920 --> 00:42:16.139
You're speaking your language that God has given
00:42:16.139 --> 00:42:20.159
you to talk to him. That's beautiful. You know,
00:42:20.199 --> 00:42:23.340
I've meditated on that scripture in 1 Corinthians
00:42:23.340 --> 00:42:27.940
13, and I've wondered the idea of tongues will
00:42:27.940 --> 00:42:30.380
cease has to do with the fact that we communicate
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in heaven thought to thought. We don't have to
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use our tongue to make that communication. It
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could be. It's just that when I was there, they
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were all speaking. When everyone came around
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the throngs of God, they were singing in their
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own language. And so I only spoke to Jesus. I
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only spoke to Jesus. Everything else I speak
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was thought to thought with somebody. Just, you
00:42:53.869 --> 00:42:56.650
know, we talked. It's me and Clarence was talking.
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I give him the table and that was it. Yeah. So
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short conversations. Hey, I don't have to describe
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it. I just give you the table. You know, so there's
00:43:08.750 --> 00:43:12.090
more questions out there. You try and turn this
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into a six and a half hour. Yeah. I thought it
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was fascinating when you talked about the bones
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being life. And I've just been thinking about
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the whole circulatory system and the blood. What
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happened to the blood? What happened to the inner
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part of the body? If the bones are part of the
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body, where's the blood? What happened? Jesus
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is everything. The Holy Spirit really fills in
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everything. Where your blood would be, the Holy
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Spirit is blowing in that area. Ooh. Oh, that's
00:43:48.750 --> 00:43:52.489
good. Yeah. Well, the blood comes from the bones,
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you know, the marrow. But remember how I talk
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about the praise around the throne of God, and
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I talk about the Holy Spirit partnered with my
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spirit to come up with the words to tell the
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Father how much we love Him? Well, the Holy Spirit
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fills your entire being. It becomes everything.
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Where there was blood, it's the Holy Spirit.
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What is pumping it is the Holy Spirit. You understand
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what I mean? All those things that were before
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now are the Holy Spirit living in you. God Almighty.
00:44:23.269 --> 00:44:25.949
So is that what Adam and Eve lost when they ate
00:44:25.949 --> 00:44:31.730
the fruit? Yeah, they lost all that. Yeah. Wow.
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Selah. Then deterioration came. I call it deterioration.
00:44:36.289 --> 00:44:39.550
We call it sin. You know, it's death. Death came
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in to the planet. Okay, just one more question,
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and we really need to break because we're supposed
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to start in an hour and a quarter. I know Jesus
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knew how long you were in heaven. Did the family
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members and friends, did they know you were there
00:44:55.179 --> 00:44:59.260
temporarily? Oh, the ones that were there? Yeah,
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I know Jesus knew how. We all believed I was
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staying. Oh, they did too? The family? The family
00:45:07.500 --> 00:45:09.980
that was there also believed I was saved. Oh,
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so they didn't know you were temporarily. Let
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me tell you why. Let me give you a reason why.
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Because when I was there, Jesus was saying to
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me, no, it's not your time. Go back. Okay. I
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knew I had a choice. It was right here. Okay.
00:45:24.940 --> 00:45:26.639
I'm putting it right there because I would have
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to look at it to acknowledge it. And I thought
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to myself, why wouldn't I do what you said? You
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did all this for me. And then I felt like a soldier.
00:45:37.369 --> 00:45:40.570
Yes, sir. You know what I mean? And I felt like
00:45:40.570 --> 00:45:42.750
he was saying, I need you there more than I need
00:45:42.750 --> 00:45:47.650
you here. Okay? So I never looked over here to
00:45:47.650 --> 00:45:50.949
look at the choice. Do you understand what I
00:45:50.949 --> 00:45:56.070
mean? Now, there have been times, being back
00:45:56.070 --> 00:45:59.889
on the planet, where I've said, I should have
00:45:59.889 --> 00:46:04.150
looked. But the reality of it is I know I'm on
00:46:04.150 --> 00:46:07.190
my way home and that's before me. So I'm glad
00:46:07.190 --> 00:46:10.170
you asked that question. You know, I always say
00:46:10.170 --> 00:46:13.309
my wife and Jesus ganged up on me. You know what
00:46:13.309 --> 00:46:18.449
I mean? You know, she kept my body and the ability
00:46:18.449 --> 00:46:21.869
for me to return into it. Do you understand what
00:46:21.869 --> 00:46:24.710
I mean? By her prayers, my body was sustained
00:46:24.710 --> 00:46:28.190
enough for me to return back into it. Because
00:46:28.190 --> 00:46:30.429
if she didn't pray, this body would have started
00:46:30.429 --> 00:46:32.929
deteriorating more. And I would have came into
00:46:32.929 --> 00:46:35.889
a body that could not be. Well, Jesus could do
00:46:35.889 --> 00:46:38.449
it. Don't get me wrong. But she was the one that
00:46:38.449 --> 00:46:42.530
really battled to keep this body. You know, I
00:46:42.530 --> 00:46:45.670
couldn't go into another body. You understand
00:46:45.670 --> 00:46:49.309
what I mean? And see, I think sometimes when
00:46:49.309 --> 00:46:52.650
a person leaves the planet, the enemy of God
00:46:52.650 --> 00:46:56.349
does everything he can to the body so that you.
00:46:56.969 --> 00:47:00.889
Can't come back into it. I think the enemy, if
00:47:00.889 --> 00:47:03.170
you leave the planet earlier than you're supposed
00:47:03.170 --> 00:47:05.110
to, I know it's a covenant. The man wants to
00:47:05.110 --> 00:47:07.289
die in the judgment. That's really talking about
00:47:07.289 --> 00:47:10.130
Jesus. But the reality of we know that people
00:47:10.130 --> 00:47:13.210
have left the planet and came back, not just
00:47:13.210 --> 00:47:14.869
people like me, but in the Bible, there were
00:47:14.869 --> 00:47:17.090
people that left the planet. And then the one
00:47:17.090 --> 00:47:20.269
that really blows it apart is Hezekiah. When
00:47:20.269 --> 00:47:24.159
Hezekiah was given 15 more years. If it was appointed
00:47:24.159 --> 00:47:27.019
once for him to die, then why did God extend
00:47:27.019 --> 00:47:32.280
it 15 more years? I really say that we should
00:47:32.280 --> 00:47:35.639
leave the planet when our work is done. Amen.
00:47:36.380 --> 00:47:40.900
And I think you just leave. You just leave. What
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about people who decide they don't want to do
00:47:42.639 --> 00:47:44.980
what they've been told they're supposed to do?
00:47:45.159 --> 00:47:48.199
And they stay? No, and they check out early.
00:47:48.650 --> 00:47:51.530
And they leave the planet. Yeah. Well, they're
00:47:51.530 --> 00:47:53.329
born again. Jesus Christ the Lord saved them.
00:47:53.469 --> 00:47:54.690
They're going to go to heaven. They're going
00:47:54.690 --> 00:47:57.369
to go to heaven and they're going to stay. Ain't
00:47:57.369 --> 00:47:59.190
nobody up there getting mad at them because they,
00:47:59.190 --> 00:48:02.610
you know, got there. I mean, we don't have those
00:48:02.610 --> 00:48:05.630
attitudes no more. There are people that left
00:48:05.630 --> 00:48:07.949
the planet earlier than they should. You know,
00:48:08.070 --> 00:48:10.010
there's things, there's people that have done
00:48:10.010 --> 00:48:11.989
some things they shouldn't have done. They've
00:48:11.989 --> 00:48:13.829
given some warnings that they should do something
00:48:13.829 --> 00:48:16.809
better, eat better, you know, exercise more,
00:48:16.989 --> 00:48:20.110
you know. They're shortening their life on the
00:48:20.110 --> 00:48:22.650
planet, and God didn't want it that way. But,
00:48:22.670 --> 00:48:24.349
you know, God's not going to force you to do,
00:48:24.349 --> 00:48:28.190
you know, those things. I'm one of them. I can
00:48:28.190 --> 00:48:30.650
tell you right now. He told me two years ago,
00:48:30.769 --> 00:48:32.809
you could eat food to live or you could eat food
00:48:32.809 --> 00:48:39.949
to die. Ooh. Yeah. Ooh. Yeah. Wow. That's what
00:48:39.949 --> 00:48:46.260
he said. Yeah. Seriously, you know, there's food
00:48:46.260 --> 00:48:48.380
that we could eat today. We know it's bad for
00:48:48.380 --> 00:48:51.619
you and it tastes good, but it's bad for you.
00:48:52.019 --> 00:48:55.880
Yeah. It's a trap. There's certain things that
00:48:55.880 --> 00:48:57.880
can kill you that are killing you, that are food.
00:48:58.400 --> 00:49:00.699
And there's food that you should eat that it
00:49:00.699 --> 00:49:03.460
will keep you alive. And sometimes we don't choose
00:49:03.460 --> 00:49:08.130
to. Yeah, we don't choose to, you know. I'm just
00:49:08.130 --> 00:49:10.250
saying that, you know, but he told me, he said,
00:49:10.309 --> 00:49:12.690
you can eat food to live or you can eat food
00:49:12.690 --> 00:49:21.130
to die. Is honey bad? Yes, Sharon and Phil's
00:49:21.130 --> 00:49:23.170
honey's bad because they're into those nutrition
00:49:23.170 --> 00:49:25.409
things. And when I was talking to them, they
00:49:25.409 --> 00:49:27.670
know a whole bunch of stuff. I think it's good
00:49:27.670 --> 00:49:33.610
for you. Yeah. Don't ask me about that. My wife
00:49:33.610 --> 00:49:36.360
knows a lot about food and so on. Me and her
00:49:36.360 --> 00:49:38.340
got on the phone just recently, and I'm on a
00:49:38.340 --> 00:49:40.659
whole different diet when I get back home. Oh,
00:49:40.659 --> 00:49:46.400
okay. She's already got her juicer out. So the
00:49:46.400 --> 00:49:48.599
next time you see me, you'll probably say, that
00:49:48.599 --> 00:49:53.780
thing looks a lot different. Why don't we close
00:49:53.780 --> 00:49:56.699
with prayer? Would you pray? Yeah. Father, thank
00:49:56.699 --> 00:49:59.059
you for this moment that you've given us. Father,
00:49:59.159 --> 00:50:03.579
I'm asking the information that you gave me the
00:50:03.579 --> 00:50:06.929
privilege. to be able to impart to those out
00:50:06.929 --> 00:50:10.750
there that you open up the doors that they even
00:50:10.750 --> 00:50:14.230
see more than what I said with my voice and the
00:50:14.230 --> 00:50:17.690
words that I have, Father. Father, you know how
00:50:17.690 --> 00:50:20.869
much I desire that they become the best that
00:50:20.869 --> 00:50:24.590
they can in your kingdom. Yes, Lord. Because
00:50:24.590 --> 00:50:27.550
we need more workers out there. We need more
00:50:27.550 --> 00:50:30.050
people to do the things that they need to do
00:50:30.050 --> 00:50:33.570
in your kingdom so that we can reach more. Father,
00:50:33.670 --> 00:50:36.469
I thank you right now in the name, okay, I will,
00:50:36.590 --> 00:50:40.389
in the name of Jesus, that you are moving in
00:50:40.389 --> 00:50:43.250
their lives right now and that, Lord, you're
00:50:43.250 --> 00:50:46.849
going to advance them in a way that they never
00:50:46.849 --> 00:50:50.150
thought they could be advanced because it is
00:50:50.150 --> 00:50:52.690
needed in this time. In Jesus' name we pray,
00:50:52.849 --> 00:50:56.710
amen. Amen. One last thing he told me to tell
00:50:56.710 --> 00:51:00.130
you. People sometimes ask me, when is he coming
00:51:00.130 --> 00:51:03.670
back? All right. This is what Jesus told me when
00:51:03.670 --> 00:51:07.769
I was with him. He will come back when no one
00:51:07.769 --> 00:51:12.110
is left on the planet to accept him. Okay. And
00:51:12.110 --> 00:51:15.409
that was like, how could that be? There was a
00:51:15.409 --> 00:51:18.650
time when only one man was righteous on the planet.
00:51:19.469 --> 00:51:24.070
Do you understand what I mean? All of the other
00:51:24.070 --> 00:51:27.989
human beings on the planet had what? Turned from
00:51:27.989 --> 00:51:32.000
God except for one man. And as in the days of
00:51:32.000 --> 00:51:34.239
Noah, so shall it be in the days of the coming
00:51:34.239 --> 00:51:37.500
of the Son of Man. That's why we hear he doesn't
00:51:37.500 --> 00:51:40.320
know the time or the day, because it's up to
00:51:40.320 --> 00:51:43.420
the heart. He will know when there will be no
00:51:43.420 --> 00:51:47.139
one ready, will accept him on the planet, and
00:51:47.139 --> 00:51:51.500
he will come. We won't know that. And that's
00:51:51.500 --> 00:51:53.460
the entire planet. That's not just the United
00:51:53.460 --> 00:51:57.559
States. That's everywhere. There's going to come
00:51:57.559 --> 00:52:00.030
a time. When no one's going to want to accept
00:52:00.030 --> 00:52:02.710
him. I know that's hard for us to accept because
00:52:02.710 --> 00:52:05.050
we have the Holy Spirit residing on the inside
00:52:05.050 --> 00:52:07.510
of us. Do you know what I mean? But there are
00:52:07.510 --> 00:52:09.949
people out there right now. Do you understand
00:52:09.949 --> 00:52:11.630
what I mean? That do not have the Holy Spirit
00:52:11.630 --> 00:52:14.429
on the inside of them. And they don't think of
00:52:14.429 --> 00:52:18.909
Jesus like we do. You know. But that's what he
00:52:18.909 --> 00:52:21.289
told me in heaven. I'll tell you the truth. It
00:52:21.289 --> 00:52:24.570
was hard for me when I got back to the plant
00:52:24.570 --> 00:52:27.409
and I meditated on that to accept that. And then
00:52:27.409 --> 00:52:33.670
he said, there was no one. One man. Got down
00:52:33.670 --> 00:52:38.369
to one man, you guys. One. The entire world.
00:52:38.789 --> 00:52:40.849
And you may say, well, there was only 5 ,000
00:52:40.849 --> 00:52:42.530
people at the time. We don't know how many people
00:52:42.530 --> 00:52:47.130
there was. You understand what I mean? Whatever
00:52:47.130 --> 00:52:49.590
it was, and there's going to come a time when
00:52:49.590 --> 00:52:53.070
there's not going to be any man, any people.
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