(327) “God Wants to Use You in the Supernatural--Don't Give Up!” with Michael and Gordana Van Vlymen

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This was something the Lord had reiterated to

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me during my sabbatical. Do you want to see those

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miracles? Then you don't give up ever. There

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is no doubt in the enemy's mind what you're going

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to do because you're going to do what I told

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you to do, that when you speak, the manifestation

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of my power will come and the Holy Spirit will

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move and all these things. And this is for everybody

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seeking miracles. Do not give up. God promises

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in Joel 2 .28 to pour out His Spirit on all humanity.

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Welcome to Global Outpouring, where we contend

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for that promised outpouring, we equip for that

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outpouring, so that we may engage in that very

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outpouring. I'm Philip Buss. And I'm Sharon Buss.

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Welcome to the podcast today. You're going to

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love this one. We have with us today Michael

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and Gordana van Vlijmen. It's been a long time

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since we've had them on this podcast, and we

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know that you're going to really enjoy this because

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they have testimonies of following God into the

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supernatural, into doing the things that you

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see in the Word, not being frustrated that...

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I read it in the Word, and I don't see it. But

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following on and not giving up. God wants to

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use you in the supernatural. Don't give up. Thanks

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so much for joining us today. We're just delighted

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that you're with us, and we know that you're

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Translation by Faith, September 7th through 12th,

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2026. right here in our headquarters. You're

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going to love the Valley of the Angels. It's

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a wonderful place, and it's going to be a time

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of growing in the things of God and going deeper

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with Him into the things that He has planned

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for you. He has marvelous plans for you, and

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you will enjoy and be really blessed and challenged

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and helped to go deeper in God by coming to this

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school. Michael and Gordana van Vlijmen, we are

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so delighted to have you with us on this episode.

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It's been a long time and it's time to refresh

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and renew our acquaintance because we're looking

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forward to having you with us at the school the

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first week of September. And we're just really

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excited to see you again. Yes. Same here. Yeah,

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it's great to see you guys. It has been a long

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time. It's been too long. Yes, absolutely. Absolutely.

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So just to recap, we'll put links in the show

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notes for the other episodes that we've done

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with you folks. But just to recap, one of the

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things that I love the most about the two of

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you is how the Lord has grown you in the spirit

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realm. And to where you're really being used

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in a powerful, powerful way in so many ways.

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And the thing that is just exciting to me is

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that you're... You're kind of ordinary people,

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which gives every ordinary person hope that God

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can use them. And, you know, Michael, you were

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a coffee machine repairman and vending machines.

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And Gordana, you have been a hairdresser for

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years. And so I just I love the fact that you

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pursued God with all of your hearts to the point

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where you were. getting somewhere that you wanted

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to get in the presence of the Lord and doing

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the stuff, so to speak. Do you want to just give

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us just a little bit of catch -up history on

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that so that viewers and listeners who haven't

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met you before can just get a little taste of

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your journey? Yeah. Cordana? You want me to go

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first? Yeah, go ahead. I was brought up as Greek

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Orthodox. And I knew there was a God, but I didn't

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know about the Trinity. So in 1986, I was born

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again, and the Holy Spirit gave me the revelation

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of the Trinity, who, you know, Father, Son, Holy

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Spirit, even though I would go to church all

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the time, maybe four or five times a day, and

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do the sign of the cross and say, Father, Son,

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Holy Spirit, fasting, everything else, but I

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had no grid what it meant, any of it. And thank

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God that Mike did not give up talking about Jesus.

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And I'm like, wow, I know God. He did not stop.

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So I was born again, 1986. But even though I

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experienced a lot and learned a lot and I was

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in the Word nonstop because I was so hungry,

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it wasn't satisfying to me what I was reading

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in the Word, seeing the things what the Lord

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did. All the things that were happening, it's

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like, okay, this is for now. Why am I not seeing

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this? I wasn't content with that. And Mike would

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take us to different meetings and pursue even

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more. 11 -11 -2011 took a whole new turn for

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me. Let me back up a little bit. Even though

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before we had Bible study. I witnessed to every

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person that I could, rejected by the family,

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made fun of it for being in the ward and being

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on fire for the Lord. Give every pamphlet, video,

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movies, books, everything that I could to be

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the light because I wanted everyone to know Jesus.

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I wanted everyone to know what I knew. So 2011,

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Mike took us to a conference. Inside of me, to

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be honest, I was crying, and Mike did not know

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this. I said, Lord, you have to show me. There's

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either more to this, what I'm reading in your

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Word, where I'm seeing signs and wonders, things

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are happening, or I'll just go back and be a

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religious person. I'll go back and be an Orthodox.

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I'll go back to my Orthodox church and just,

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you know, do the cross and go, and that's it.

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I was crying inside. If nothing happens here,

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I'm going back. Well, lo and behold, the Lord

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answered my prayer. So be careful what you pray

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for and how serious you are about this, the pursuit

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of God, because He is real. What it says in the

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Bible, it's for now. It is for now. The Lord

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came and touched me in a miraculous way. This

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might stretch somebody. He put his hand inside

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of me and just literally shook me. I don't know

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if anybody heard of Heidi Baker, what he did

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for her. The Lord shook me for until probably

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now, maybe the last few years, not as much, but

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literally for maybe five, six hours at nighttime.

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And that's when everything opened up for me,

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the spiritual world where I could see. Demons,

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angels, where before I was a little bit scared

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of the demonic. But when that happened for me,

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there was no fear anymore to do warfare, to fight,

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to go in the spirit realm in the evening and

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do warfare. He would translate me and take me

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places. So it totally changed me. And yes, I

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haven't been the same since. And there's nothing

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to go back to. You know, the enemy attacks, but

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we just go forward. Yeah. Amen. Amen. So thank

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you, Jesus, for Mike not giving up, but by witnessing

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to me, keep talking to me about this Jesus, because

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he is the lover of my soul. Jesus. Amen. I love

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Mike, but Jesus is the lover of my soul. Amen.

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Beautiful. I'm not on the same page like Mike.

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I mean, I do go in the spirit realm. But I don't

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work with the angels like Michael does. So maybe

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one day. I've seen angels and I've talked to

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them, but not to the level where Mike is. So,

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Michael, give us your short version. Short version,

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okay. Yeah, because we've done a longer version.

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I know. We'll make that one available for people

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who want to know more. Well, so I was raised

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in an evangelical church. And taught from an

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early age that the things of the Bible are long

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gone. No more miracles, no more angels, no more

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prophets, no more of the supernatural, the miraculous.

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That's all of the past because we're more advanced

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now. We don't need that kind of stuff. And yeah,

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so I had a season in my life where I was crying

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out. to the Lord for deliverance. He answered

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that prayer and he showed me that he's still

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the same God that does the miraculous. I mean,

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it was, when you receive deliverance, you know,

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it's hard to argue with that. There's nothing

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that feels like freedom, you know? And so I was

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happy about that. But then a few years later,

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Gordana had a friend that would come over and

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she would tell us all these wonderful stories

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about encounters with the Lord Jesus and heavenly

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things and all that. And I was thinking, wow,

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if that's possible, I'd much rather have that

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than to see just the demonic. And so that led

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me on my pursuit to just find out what I'm missing

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and how to access that. And the Lord kind of

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led me through that. And I learned about waiting

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on God, spending time in his presence, cultivating

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awareness of the things of the spirit instead

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of ignoring it. You know, when you're taught

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your whole life, you know, it's not real. It's

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kind of you have to shift gears, you know, to

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make that a part of your life. And the Lord led

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us on that journey. And just the floodgates were

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open. And, yeah, it's been overwhelming in a

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good way. Yeah. So give us that piece about how

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you learned to wait on God and what happened.

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I know it's already in the other episode, but

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give us that piece for those who haven't heard

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it. Gordana and I would go to a lot of meetings

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where people had great testimonies about angels,

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about the Lord Jesus, about heaven. And we would

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hear these testimonies and then we would wait

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for the instruction. How does this happen? But

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no one was sharing that part. It's like, and

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then the angel told us all to leave and now you

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can all go home. And it's like, no, I don't want

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to go home. I want to hear what the instruction

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is to have that kind of walk with God. And so

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we pursued that for several years, not hearing

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how this happens. You know, people give instructions

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like, just press in, just hold on. Just go. Nothing

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to me, you know. And so finally, we were watching

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Sid Roth's program one night and Bruce Allen

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was on and he was sharing testimonies. And I

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thought, that's great. Maybe he'll stretch out

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his hand and pray for us or something over the

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TV. But instead, he said, now I'm going to tell

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you how this can happen for you. And he explained

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very simply. how to wait on God. And a kind of

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a recap of that is you come before the Lord in

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a position of rest. You're not striving. You

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just come before the Lord, close your eyes in

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a position of prayer and wait with expectation.

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You've got your eyes closed, but you're looking

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with your eyes closed for God to show you something.

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There's something coming. Your eyes are closed,

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but God's going to show you something. You don't

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know what it's going to look like, so you keep

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looking. And he gave that instruction. It sounded

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kind of strange, you know, looking with your

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eyes closed, but I thought I can do that. And

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that was like the breakthrough instruction for

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me. I didn't believe it in the moment because

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it seemed so strange and it seemed, you know.

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When you're kind of raised in a religious church,

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you almost feel like you have to do something.

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You have to accomplish something or learn something.

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It couldn't be as simple as just you wait and

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God shows you. It just seemed too much. But as

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I was waiting on the Lord, I would wait five

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minutes, nothing. Ten minutes, I think I'm wasting

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my time. Fifteen minutes, this is ridiculous.

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What in the world am I doing? Twenty minutes,

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oh my goodness, I've got to stop. I probably

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would have stopped, but after three or four years

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of seeking, that was literally the only practical

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instruction that we had received of what to do.

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Thank the Lord he gave me the grace to continue.

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And at 45 minutes, it's like a breakthrough into

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the things of the Spirit happened, and it terrified

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me. It's like if you've got no grit for that,

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and suddenly there it is. It's like, wow, is

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that what I've been waiting for? And so I was

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afraid, and I did it again. I repented of my

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fear. I did it again. I was afraid, repented

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again of my fear. Yeah, and that started like

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a lifelong practice of spending time with the

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Lord, not me talking, you know, here's all the

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stuff I want, Lord, or here's what I want you

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to do, but me just listening and looking. Yes.

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Letting him speak to me and, you know, instruct

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me in things. So you started at, you were doing

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45 minutes about. And how long did it take? Was

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it days, weeks, couple months before all of a

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sudden it happened? Like ongoing? Yeah. That

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same day, I felt like I kind of ruined it for

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myself because I was afraid twice. And then so

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the third time that I was waiting on the Lord,

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I waited for hours. Nothing happened. I didn't

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feel anything. I didn't see anything. I thought,

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well, I ruined it. You know, God gave it to me,

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but I ruined it. So I went up to my bed and I

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was going to just lay down and mope a little

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bit, feel sorry for myself. And so I apologized

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to the Lord. I said, I'm so sorry you gave me

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what I asked for, but I just didn't have the.

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I was too chicken to receive it. That's what

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I told him. And so when I laid back on the bed,

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immediately I found myself in the stars. And

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I was up there with Jesus. And it far exceeded

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the things that scared me about experiencing

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the spirit realm. I mean, this was like light

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years beyond that. But I was with him. And so

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I didn't have that element of fear. And so he

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took me into the stars. He took me to the bottom

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of the ocean. He said, see, I'm with you even

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to the depths of the ocean. Oh, wow. So that

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kind of gave me the permission, if you will,

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or the strength, confidence to pursue him with

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my whole heart because he said, I'm always with

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you. So I would wait on the Lord like every night

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because I didn't want to miss something. And

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I knew it happened pretty quick, you know, the

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first time. But see, the thing is, I think the

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Lord gave me that to inspire me. But he let me

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go through the process of waiting on him to show

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me that this is not some kind of parlor trick.

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This is a relationship. And as you draw close

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to me, I will draw close to you. But I'm not

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going to just show up because you sat down in

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that chair for five minutes. And so I would go

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and I would wait on the Lord for an hour. I struggled

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with it because sometimes I'd be tired. I was

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working 60, 70 hours a week at my job. So I would

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wait on the Lord, but I would fall asleep over

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and over and over. And so sometimes I would wait

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for an hour and sometimes I would wait for 10

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minutes. So this would happen for weeks. And

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then I would see something, a flash of light.

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something that I would have my eyes closed. And

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then, you know, if you're sitting in the dark

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with your eyes closed and someone turns the light

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on, you know it, right? I mean, you see the difference

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even with your eyes closed. Well, what would

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happen is sometimes the room would be so filled

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with light that... I would open my eyes and the

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room would still be dark, but then I'd close

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my eyes and it would be blinding light, you know?

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And so I was experiencing stuff like that. So

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I knew that the things of the kingdom were beginning

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to manifest in my life. And so I would continue

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to wait. And then, you know, after maybe a month,

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two months, three months, sometimes I would see

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nothing, I would hear nothing, I would feel nothing.

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And then all of a sudden, you know, I would...

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be sitting in my chair and then my spiritual

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eyes would open and there would be an angel like

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looking into my eyes. And I could hear his thoughts.

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He's saying, are you awake yet? He's asking me,

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are you awake yet? And I thought, man, that's

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a question for the body of Christ. Are we awake

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yet? Are we awake to the things of God, to the

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things of the kingdom? And I knew that's what

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the angel was saying as he was looking into my

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eyes. And when I heard that, it's like he smiled

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and then he stood up away from me and then he

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disappeared. But when stuff like that would happen,

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it was a real convincing thing for me that this

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is the path. Not just me speaking, but now me

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listening, me paying attention. And it just started

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to... increase and increase and increase, and

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God would give me lessons and teach me things.

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And then it became kind of over the top for me.

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It became everyday life where I would see things

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all throughout the day. But it wasn't accidental,

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you know, because you know how this is. If you

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take the steps of faith, it's like, you know,

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just like praying for healing for someone. If

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you're not praying for healing for anyone, probably

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people around you are not going to be healed

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so much. But if you're willing to reach out your

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hand and touch someone or pray, you're going

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to see the manifestation of his power. And it's

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the same thing with the things of the Spirit.

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Beautiful. Wow. So out of all of these experiences

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you were having, you were journaling. You were

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writing down your experiences, even if your experience

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was, I fell asleep. Absolutely. If that's all

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it was, that's what you wrote down. And it's

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so important that we write down the things that

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happen or that don't happen. And when something

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does happen, you write it down. I'm amazed at

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the things that are in my journal when I go back

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and read them. My journals, I should say. I go

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back and read. The Lord leads me to pages. Oh,

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wow, that was an amazing thing you told me. I

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completely forgot that. And so he's reminding

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me of things that he's told me and showed me.

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And so the point I wanted to make, though, is

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that out of your journaling, you've written a

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lot of books. Tell us about that. Yeah, so I

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was writing everything down because I just felt

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compelled to do that. I mean, the things that

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were happening were so unusual. I thought, I

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have to capture this, you know. And so I wrote,

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I don't know, for several years. And I had a

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couple big stacks of journals. I don't know,

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maybe, I don't know, 50 or 100 journals, something

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like that. Wow. But like you said, it wasn't

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all just amazing encounters. Some of my entries

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were I felt I wanted to wait on the Lord. I fell

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asleep after five minutes and woke up, you know,

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in my prayer chair with a stiff neck. Yeah. And

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so those were some of my entries. But I felt

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like it gives an honesty to what God's doing,

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that this is not just something that happens

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overnight because wouldn't it be nice if God

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just did it and we didn't have to draw near to

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him, we didn't have to sit at his feet, we didn't

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have to worship him. But no, it wouldn't be nice

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because that defeats the whole purpose. It's

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about a walk with him. Yeah. I wrote everything

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out and I was praying over my journals one day.

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I said, what's the purpose of this? Because I

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would read my own journals and I would be excited

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and I would be encouraged from reading my own

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journals. And so I went to a meeting. Well, we

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went to a meeting that we'd never been to before.

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The man, he prophesies and says, write, write,

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write, clear everything off your desk except

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your Bible and your notebook and write. God's

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telling you to write the revelation that he's

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given you. And so I thought, okay, well, I felt

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like How to See in the Spirit was the main revelation

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that he was giving me, so that was really the

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first book that I wrote. I wrote it out of my

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journals, but then I thought, I've got so many

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things he's taught me in the journals, and then

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so Supernatural Transportation, he'd been doing

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that in our lives for... for several years. So

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I went through the journals and I went through

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Gordana's life and things we'd experienced and

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wrote that book. And then I thought, well, I've

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got a lot of testimonies of overcoming the enemy.

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So I put that in another book. And basically

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all of the books that I've written have been

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born out of this walk with the Lord and keeping

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track of it, what he's taught me through the

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years. And so now I've written like 18 books,

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I think. Wow. How would someone get your books?

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They're all on Amazon. That's the easy way for

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me. Okay. Yeah. So we'll put a link to Michael

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Van Vlijmen, author on Amazon. Thank you. So

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that people can get your books because there's

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good stuff. I love that one about violent prayers

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for your adult children. I think that's an amazing

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book. Yeah. So I noticed something that. as God

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would send us around the world doing schools

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and stuff and conferences, you know, I'm trying

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to teach people, or Gordana and I are trying

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to teach people, you can engage with the things

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of heaven, but really their need was, I've got

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a loved one that, you know, doesn't want to come

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to the Lord, or I've got somebody in my life

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that's sick, or somebody that needs a touch from

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the Lord, and that would be the over... overwhelming

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factor that they're thinking about when they

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come to the meeting. Even though they loved the

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testimonies we were sharing, they were more concerned

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about their loved ones. And I thought, they need

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the breakthrough in that. They need to know that,

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you know, God is there for them in those times.

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And so the things that the Lord showed us are

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the things that went in that book, Violent Prayer

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for Your Adult Children, because, you know, the

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Lord showed. He showed us that he can change

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things in a heartbeat, in a day. And so I wrote

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that book, and we have had many, many testimonies

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from people that have used that as a template

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to pray for their own children. And there was

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this lady in Germany. We had stayed at their

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house before. Wonderful people, love the Lord,

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serve God, the whole family. But they had someone

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in their family that was kind of going the wrong

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direction and they were heartbroken about it.

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She decided to pray the way we prayed for our

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own kids. And she said that within three days,

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her daughter contacted her and said, I want to

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serve the Lord now. Wow. It's like night and

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day. She wanted nothing to do with the Lord.

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Now she wanted to serve the Lord. And she was

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just overwhelmed. we understand that because

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we were overwhelmed what God did for us too.

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So it's been a real blessing. Yeah. For people

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that are struggling and they're waiting for the

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miracle or the breakthrough, do not give up.

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Keep inquiring of the Lord. Be violent. You know,

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the kingdom of heaven suffers violence and the

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violent take it by force. So just know that he's

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for you. All of heaven is for you. So just be

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aggressive. Amen. Amen. That's powerful. Yeah.

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So in your walk with the Lord and in your journaling

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and in your writing books, somehow or other,

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you got connected with Bruce and Reshma Allen

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and started traveling with them in their schools.

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You mentioned the schools a moment ago. And you're

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going to be with us in their school that's being

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held at our headquarters. I love what you do

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in bringing the activations of the how -tos,

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the how -to parts, because the whole thing is

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about the school of the supernatural translation

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by faith. And, of course, Reshma teaches on discernment.

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But you do mostly the activations of the how

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-tos, and we actually sit in the classroom and

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do the activations. And I've been really blessed

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by the things that God has done in my life. as

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we've waited on the Lord in those moments, and

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you give us instructions of what to do and how

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to do it. I'm excited to see what God's going

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to do in this school. Do you have any thoughts

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about this school that's coming up? You know,

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I do because of the things that the Lord's told

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me over the past couple years. And people have

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heard this, you know, the veil's getting thinner,

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you know, and people have heard this over and

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over, and they're waiting for, you know, something

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majestic to happen. But we're in that season.

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We're in a season where people are not going

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to have to wait. They're going to see more than

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they ever wanted to see. And many people are

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going to be terrified. But the remnant is going

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to be bold like a lion because the Lord's going

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to use us to help share the gospel with those

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people that don't understand what they're seeing.

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And in the world today, it's becoming more mainstream

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that, you know, are we seeing aliens? Yes. You

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know, they're going to appear to us. Are we seeing

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all these different, you know, creatures, you

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know, and they're trying to normalize that even

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through movies and cartoons and all that stuff.

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So we're going to see more than we ever saw before.

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And I think it's the same with people that are

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looking. for the breakthrough into the things

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of the Spirit. You know, that's one of the things

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about the school, like you said. It's not just

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about us learning a bunch of stuff, and then

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that causes the breakthrough. No, you learn a

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precept upon precept, what God's doing, and then

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you put it into action. And you learn about stillness,

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and you learn about what David says, waiting

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like a watchman on the wall for the morning.

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You learn about all these things. And you take

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those steps of faith, and that's when it becomes

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active in your own life. I'm believing that in

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the schools going forward, we've seen all kinds

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of breakthroughs that people had, but we're going

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to see much, much greater. And I think it is

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those steps of faith, and also because Bruce

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was given a mandate from the Lord to teach these

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things for the end times church, the end times

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believers. So there is something that's been

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given to him, a mantle, that he's able to release

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through his teaching and through his revelation

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and through the activations and all those things.

00:30:07.299 --> 00:30:10.359
And I think people are benefiting from that.

00:30:10.799 --> 00:30:14.160
It's not like the benefit like, yeah, I'll just

00:30:14.160 --> 00:30:16.599
show up and see what happens. It's a benefit

00:30:16.599 --> 00:30:20.420
like, Lord, this is what I want too. And you

00:30:20.420 --> 00:30:23.809
have a hunker. And then you're there. And then

00:30:23.809 --> 00:30:29.009
you get to glean from that atmosphere and that

00:30:29.009 --> 00:30:31.190
revelation, and it becomes part of your own life.

00:30:31.710 --> 00:30:34.730
And we've seen that over and over again. Yeah.

00:30:34.789 --> 00:30:37.250
It's beautiful. Yes, absolutely. I'm excited

00:30:37.250 --> 00:30:40.410
for what's coming. Absolutely. Yes. We are too.

00:30:41.130 --> 00:30:44.390
Absolutely. I remember Bruce, and it wasn't during

00:30:44.390 --> 00:30:47.269
a school. It was just sitting at the table, and

00:30:47.269 --> 00:30:50.420
that's such a blessing for us. Sit around the

00:30:50.420 --> 00:30:53.079
kitchen table and just hear things that nobody

00:30:53.079 --> 00:30:56.880
else gets to. Yeah. But remember, he was saying

00:30:56.880 --> 00:31:00.160
that these things that look so innocent, like

00:31:00.160 --> 00:31:02.460
the little aliens, you know, pointy ears, all

00:31:02.460 --> 00:31:05.099
this stuff. He said, but there's going to come

00:31:05.099 --> 00:31:07.299
a time when they're going to reveal themselves

00:31:07.299 --> 00:31:10.920
and men's hearts will fail them for fear. Yeah.

00:31:10.940 --> 00:31:15.559
I thought, oh, wow. And that's maybe after, you

00:31:15.559 --> 00:31:17.920
know, the bride has been taken out, you know.

00:31:18.650 --> 00:31:22.230
Or maybe sooner. Or sooner. But, of course, when

00:31:22.230 --> 00:31:24.869
people see stuff like that, that could drive

00:31:24.869 --> 00:31:29.130
them to, Jesus, help me. Many people that, they're

00:31:29.130 --> 00:31:32.970
maybe moderate believers or maybe partial believers,

00:31:33.029 --> 00:31:36.230
and the first thing out of their mouth, when

00:31:36.230 --> 00:31:38.910
all of a sudden they see a tornado or something

00:31:38.910 --> 00:31:42.130
in front of their eyes, oh, God, help me. You

00:31:42.130 --> 00:31:44.759
know, it's just like that. And maybe it'll take

00:31:44.759 --> 00:31:47.299
stuff like that to open people's eyes. Yeah.

00:31:47.420 --> 00:31:50.200
So maybe that's a good thing in a way. Yeah.

00:31:50.400 --> 00:31:54.059
I think so. We've experienced that, Gordana and

00:31:54.059 --> 00:31:58.720
I. So people that have pursued other gods, so

00:31:58.720 --> 00:32:01.900
to speak, and wise counselors have appeared to

00:32:01.900 --> 00:32:05.759
them. And, you know, the wise counselors are

00:32:05.759 --> 00:32:09.700
so nice and they're so just beautiful. And then

00:32:09.700 --> 00:32:13.930
suddenly there's a turn that happens. They realize,

00:32:14.210 --> 00:32:16.250
okay, these wise counselors, they have a different

00:32:16.250 --> 00:32:20.710
agenda. True. And they begin to torment. Right?

00:32:20.849 --> 00:32:24.289
Yes. Wow. So, yeah, so then people come to us

00:32:24.289 --> 00:32:27.190
and then say, this is what's happening. I don't

00:32:27.190 --> 00:32:29.769
know what I'm going to do. And so we're able

00:32:29.769 --> 00:32:32.289
to pray for them, pray deliverance over them

00:32:32.289 --> 00:32:35.190
so that they can, you know, find the true wise

00:32:35.190 --> 00:32:37.789
counselor, which would be the Holy Spirit, which

00:32:37.789 --> 00:32:42.190
brings no sorrow, torment. But, yeah, seeing

00:32:42.190 --> 00:32:45.970
that happen, people are terrified once they realize

00:32:45.970 --> 00:32:48.650
what's really going on. Like we've been to Tibet

00:32:48.650 --> 00:32:52.349
a few times. When you walk in their monasteries,

00:32:52.349 --> 00:32:54.890
they have the one they call the king of hell.

00:32:54.950 --> 00:32:58.450
I won't repeat his Tibetan name, but he's just

00:32:58.450 --> 00:33:02.789
this looks like a head of a bull. He has these

00:33:02.789 --> 00:33:05.630
bear claws. He's kind of purple, has a ring of

00:33:05.630 --> 00:33:09.079
skulls around his neck. And that's in every Tibetan

00:33:09.079 --> 00:33:12.140
monastery when you walk in, the protector, king

00:33:12.140 --> 00:33:14.220
of hell. Of course, that didn't work when the

00:33:14.220 --> 00:33:16.240
Chinese came in and, you know, destroyed the

00:33:16.240 --> 00:33:20.900
place. But if that entity, or if that's the right

00:33:20.900 --> 00:33:25.319
word, would reveal himself or any of the other

00:33:25.319 --> 00:33:27.839
stuff they worship, you know, because Hindus,

00:33:27.980 --> 00:33:30.900
you know, they got, you know, say a million gods.

00:33:31.720 --> 00:33:34.539
And when things start manifesting, I think they

00:33:34.539 --> 00:33:37.640
will start looking in a hurry. Like you were

00:33:37.640 --> 00:33:41.259
saying, you're meeting people that this is happening

00:33:41.259 --> 00:33:44.400
to. And that's a scary thing, but if that's what

00:33:44.400 --> 00:33:48.940
it takes, Lord do it. Amen. Well, you guys have

00:33:48.940 --> 00:33:52.119
seen that firsthand having been there. But a

00:33:52.119 --> 00:33:54.960
lot of people, I heard a story from a reporter

00:33:54.960 --> 00:33:58.019
that he was out investigating different religions

00:33:58.019 --> 00:34:01.630
and gods and stuff. And he went over there, and

00:34:01.630 --> 00:34:05.430
he saw the manifestation of evil that was so

00:34:05.430 --> 00:34:09.889
overwhelming, supernatural in nature. He was

00:34:09.889 --> 00:34:13.969
terrified, and he never went back. He never went

00:34:13.969 --> 00:34:16.949
back there. And actually, that story was in the

00:34:16.949 --> 00:34:22.730
1937 Reader's Digest. It's called I Saw the King

00:34:22.730 --> 00:34:25.829
of Hell, Yes. And you can Google it. I looked

00:34:25.829 --> 00:34:29.650
on eBay. They have the original—I didn't want

00:34:29.650 --> 00:34:33.030
to pay $25 for it, but it was the original one

00:34:33.030 --> 00:34:36.269
that was printed that had the—not the book, but

00:34:36.269 --> 00:34:39.269
it was the article. So you can Google that. I

00:34:39.269 --> 00:34:42.389
saw the king of hell, Tibet, and you will get

00:34:42.389 --> 00:34:45.510
the full story. I read that from time to time,

00:34:45.550 --> 00:34:50.230
and it's an amazing thing, this agnostic. And

00:34:50.230 --> 00:34:54.829
when the king of hell revealed himself, he made

00:34:54.829 --> 00:34:57.860
a believer out of him. But it is out there. It's

00:34:57.860 --> 00:35:00.659
out there, yeah. It's also told in Victor Plymire's

00:35:00.659 --> 00:35:03.940
book, High Adventure in Tibet. You can still

00:35:03.940 --> 00:35:06.000
find that out there. Wow, I had no idea. Yeah,

00:35:06.000 --> 00:35:08.639
that's in that book too, yeah. But here's the

00:35:08.639 --> 00:35:12.900
thing that we need to hone in on. One of our

00:35:12.900 --> 00:35:17.079
friends, he was born and raised in India as the

00:35:17.079 --> 00:35:21.099
son of missionaries. And he told the story of

00:35:21.099 --> 00:35:25.059
how these... Local people came to greet the missionary

00:35:25.059 --> 00:35:27.900
when they came and they said, if you can show

00:35:27.900 --> 00:35:31.280
us that your God is more powerful than the demons

00:35:31.280 --> 00:35:34.980
we fear, we will follow him. And at the time,

00:35:34.980 --> 00:35:38.099
these people were not spirit filled. And, you

00:35:38.099 --> 00:35:40.559
know, they were coming to build a hospital. They

00:35:40.559 --> 00:35:44.139
didn't have that. supernatural power that is

00:35:44.139 --> 00:35:47.039
resident in us because of the presence of the

00:35:47.039 --> 00:35:51.119
Holy Spirit in us. We need to realize who lives

00:35:51.119 --> 00:35:55.599
inside of us and we're in him. We are invincible

00:35:55.599 --> 00:35:59.840
except for where we are in doubt and in fear

00:35:59.840 --> 00:36:03.510
ourselves. So, you know, it's critical that we

00:36:03.510 --> 00:36:06.530
learn to wait on the Lord and develop this relationship

00:36:06.530 --> 00:36:09.650
with our Father so that we don't walk in fear,

00:36:09.750 --> 00:36:12.889
that we don't walk in doubt, that we walk in

00:36:12.889 --> 00:36:17.070
the truth of who He is and let nothing stop us.

00:36:31.050 --> 00:36:34.949
Somehow takes root inside you that just acknowledging

00:36:34.949 --> 00:36:40.210
a verse doesn't have that same capacity. But

00:36:40.210 --> 00:36:44.590
when Jesus makes it real to you, it's like all

00:36:44.590 --> 00:36:47.130
bets are off. It's like you're not going to be

00:36:47.130 --> 00:36:50.090
afraid of that stuff because you have been given

00:36:50.090 --> 00:36:53.809
authority. It changes everything. There you go.

00:36:53.869 --> 00:36:58.230
There you go. So you mentioned a few moments

00:36:58.230 --> 00:37:04.099
ago. about the past couple of years. The Lord

00:37:04.099 --> 00:37:07.659
took you off of the field, so to speak, where

00:37:07.659 --> 00:37:10.260
you were traveling a lot and ministering here

00:37:10.260 --> 00:37:14.179
and there. He took you off the field to draw

00:37:14.179 --> 00:37:18.000
you into a season of prayer. Please tell us about

00:37:18.000 --> 00:37:21.659
that and tell us what the Lord did and showed

00:37:21.659 --> 00:37:24.760
you. Just anything that's on your heart. I feel

00:37:24.760 --> 00:37:28.860
like this is an important, important piece that

00:37:28.860 --> 00:37:32.219
the body needs to get. I think it is important,

00:37:32.480 --> 00:37:40.559
especially now and especially because I was expecting.

00:37:41.039 --> 00:37:44.880
I was expecting God to give me some nugget that

00:37:44.880 --> 00:37:49.219
I'd never seen, some special scripture or way

00:37:49.219 --> 00:37:52.519
to pray. That just would change everything, you

00:37:52.519 --> 00:37:54.980
know, make all the things of the past the Lord

00:37:54.980 --> 00:38:00.559
has shown me like invalid or like lesser. But

00:38:00.559 --> 00:38:03.159
every time that I would come before the Lord

00:38:03.159 --> 00:38:05.539
and I would say, Lord, teach me more about breakthrough.

00:38:06.500 --> 00:38:08.679
And he would say, I already taught you about

00:38:08.679 --> 00:38:12.239
that. I taught you about breakthrough. Lord,

00:38:12.340 --> 00:38:14.800
teach me more about prayer, about hearing your

00:38:14.800 --> 00:38:17.199
voice. I taught you about that. Teach me more

00:38:17.199 --> 00:38:21.139
about having my eyes open. And he would say,

00:38:21.219 --> 00:38:24.179
I taught you about that. And I'm thinking he's

00:38:24.179 --> 00:38:27.840
bringing me back like full circle to the very

00:38:27.840 --> 00:38:32.500
beginning. And it's like all these things that

00:38:32.500 --> 00:38:38.159
he had taught me from 2010 or so about the things

00:38:38.159 --> 00:38:40.880
of the spirit. He's just like reiterating all

00:38:40.880 --> 00:38:44.159
that to me. And not only that, but he's letting

00:38:44.159 --> 00:38:47.760
me know it's more important than ever. that we

00:38:47.760 --> 00:38:50.340
do these things now and that we cultivate that

00:38:50.340 --> 00:38:53.599
relationship with him. So I was expecting, you

00:38:53.599 --> 00:38:56.820
know, after two years of waiting that it was

00:38:56.820 --> 00:38:59.800
going to be something just so over the top that

00:38:59.800 --> 00:39:02.659
I just probably wouldn't even be able to process

00:39:02.659 --> 00:39:06.420
it completely. But that wasn't what it was. And

00:39:06.420 --> 00:39:10.659
my visitations during that time period also,

00:39:10.800 --> 00:39:14.670
I was saying things in the spirit. I mean, demonic

00:39:14.670 --> 00:39:18.230
figures walking across the yard, angels coming

00:39:18.230 --> 00:39:21.809
to the door of my office, checking on me. They'd

00:39:21.809 --> 00:39:24.489
look at me and then they'd walk away back into

00:39:24.489 --> 00:39:29.409
the house. And a prophet that showed up and he

00:39:29.409 --> 00:39:32.090
came to my office three times and he was looking

00:39:32.090 --> 00:39:35.429
at me and then he would walk away. And so just

00:39:35.429 --> 00:39:38.329
all of this engagement with the things of heaven,

00:39:38.369 --> 00:39:42.360
but a couple of the things that happened. where

00:39:42.360 --> 00:39:46.920
an angel took me and had me lay on the floor,

00:39:46.980 --> 00:39:49.659
and he opened up the ceiling, and he opened up

00:39:49.659 --> 00:39:53.139
the sky, and he said, look. And it was overwhelming.

00:39:53.159 --> 00:39:57.320
There was such a demonic, wicked, demonic presence

00:39:57.320 --> 00:40:01.500
that filled the sky. And it was churning like

00:40:01.500 --> 00:40:05.739
a black mass of wickedness. And it was difficult

00:40:05.739 --> 00:40:09.519
to look at, but I had no fear. You know, because

00:40:09.519 --> 00:40:11.860
God gives us grace for the things he's called

00:40:11.860 --> 00:40:15.559
us to do. I believe that. He's told me many times,

00:40:15.719 --> 00:40:17.619
you don't have to be afraid. I'm always with

00:40:17.619 --> 00:40:21.079
you. And that's when the angel told me that the

00:40:21.079 --> 00:40:24.239
day is upon us where people are going to see

00:40:24.239 --> 00:40:27.519
the unseen and it's going to terrify some and

00:40:27.519 --> 00:40:30.739
it's going to give others a handle on their purpose

00:40:30.739 --> 00:40:35.619
because we have to bring the answer for people

00:40:35.619 --> 00:40:38.429
that are terrified. and people that don't understand.

00:40:39.050 --> 00:40:46.489
But then another encounter I had was I saw a

00:40:46.489 --> 00:40:50.309
whirlwind of fire that appeared before my prayer

00:40:50.309 --> 00:40:52.369
chair, and there was someone standing in it.

00:40:52.869 --> 00:40:56.150
And it stayed in place for about 20 minutes.

00:40:56.869 --> 00:40:59.949
And I'm just waiting for a word, you know, he's

00:40:59.949 --> 00:41:02.250
going to speak something to me. But then afterwards,

00:41:02.570 --> 00:41:05.250
the Lord said, this will be a sign and a wonder.

00:41:05.869 --> 00:41:09.670
in the coming days that people, the servants

00:41:09.670 --> 00:41:13.369
of God will be clothed with my fire and it will

00:41:13.369 --> 00:41:18.050
be an offense to some. They'll run away from

00:41:18.050 --> 00:41:22.570
you and it will be a blessing to others that

00:41:22.570 --> 00:41:26.010
know, they'll know that this is God's power and

00:41:26.010 --> 00:41:29.030
those that need miracles from the Lord, those

00:41:29.030 --> 00:41:32.429
that want to know God will be drawn to you. as

00:41:32.429 --> 00:41:35.989
this kind of thing happens. And I say that for

00:41:35.989 --> 00:41:38.989
the people seeking God because God's already

00:41:38.989 --> 00:41:42.110
doing this, but it's going to happen a lot more.

00:41:42.269 --> 00:41:46.550
The signs and wonders around our lives will become

00:41:46.550 --> 00:41:50.449
more manifest in the coming days so that people

00:41:50.449 --> 00:41:52.849
that need God are going to know they can come

00:41:52.849 --> 00:41:56.570
to you and they can find what they're looking

00:41:56.570 --> 00:41:59.829
for. They can find the answer. And so that was

00:41:59.829 --> 00:42:03.159
a great encouragement. And then I had another

00:42:03.159 --> 00:42:07.900
visitation from two angels. One was named Amiel,

00:42:08.019 --> 00:42:12.599
and the other one was named Uriel. And they stood

00:42:12.599 --> 00:42:14.860
in front of my prayer chair, and I'm overwhelmed.

00:42:15.079 --> 00:42:19.199
I'm just waiting. When things like this happen,

00:42:19.260 --> 00:42:22.099
I think, oh, what's God going to tell me? And

00:42:22.099 --> 00:42:25.739
so I'm just sitting there watching them, and

00:42:25.739 --> 00:42:29.139
they're talking to me, but I can barely hear

00:42:29.139 --> 00:42:32.400
the words coming out of their mouth. And so I'm

00:42:32.400 --> 00:42:35.159
thinking, what in the world is this? And I'm

00:42:35.159 --> 00:42:37.420
asking, please speak louder. I can't hear you.

00:42:37.460 --> 00:42:39.840
Please speak louder. So after about five minutes,

00:42:39.900 --> 00:42:42.639
maybe a little bit more, they stopped trying

00:42:42.639 --> 00:42:45.780
to talk to me and they left. And so I was very

00:42:45.780 --> 00:42:50.590
disappointed and I was frustrated. So I prayed

00:42:50.590 --> 00:42:53.190
about it a little bit. It's not right that those

00:42:53.190 --> 00:42:57.250
angels couldn't communicate with me. Angels should

00:42:57.250 --> 00:43:02.110
be able to communicate better. I'm kind of dumping

00:43:02.110 --> 00:43:05.070
all of my frustration on them, kind of blaming

00:43:05.070 --> 00:43:08.429
them. And so the next night when I was praying,

00:43:08.590 --> 00:43:10.610
I'm again at my prayer chair, and I'm caught

00:43:10.610 --> 00:43:13.489
into the Spirit. And there's an angel sitting

00:43:13.489 --> 00:43:16.809
behind a desk, and I know this angel is someone

00:43:16.809 --> 00:43:21.150
of some authority. I can feel it. And so I said,

00:43:21.309 --> 00:43:23.750
can I ask you a question? The angel said, no.

00:43:24.590 --> 00:43:27.150
I said, please, let me ask you one question.

00:43:27.210 --> 00:43:30.130
It will be short. And so the angel said, okay,

00:43:30.210 --> 00:43:35.429
ask me. And I explained the situation. And the

00:43:35.429 --> 00:43:39.650
angel just kind of looked at me and said, Amiel

00:43:39.650 --> 00:43:42.429
and Uriel have no trouble communicating. The

00:43:42.429 --> 00:43:45.630
problem is with you. You need to learn how to

00:43:45.630 --> 00:43:49.530
hear better. Now, I thought about that. I mean,

00:43:49.550 --> 00:43:52.530
obviously, I was, you know, you can't argue with

00:43:52.530 --> 00:43:57.230
that. That's accurate, right? But I thought about

00:43:57.230 --> 00:44:01.349
that, and I thought, you know, we in this household,

00:44:01.570 --> 00:44:06.730
Gordana, myself, and the kids, we seek to hear

00:44:06.730 --> 00:44:10.210
God's voice. We seek to see the things of the

00:44:10.210 --> 00:44:12.969
Spirit. This isn't like just a pastime where

00:44:12.969 --> 00:44:15.090
wouldn't it be great if it happened. That's the

00:44:15.090 --> 00:44:18.639
passion of our life and our heart. So for the

00:44:18.639 --> 00:44:22.519
angel to tell me that, this is with you. You

00:44:22.519 --> 00:44:25.500
need to learn how to hear better. And I thought,

00:44:25.539 --> 00:44:28.280
if I need to learn how to hear better, we all

00:44:28.280 --> 00:44:30.360
need to learn how to hear better. I'm not trying

00:44:30.360 --> 00:44:33.420
to pat myself on the back because that's not

00:44:33.420 --> 00:44:36.659
the point of this. But it's like, you can't say

00:44:36.659 --> 00:44:40.539
that you've arrived. We move from glory to glory.

00:44:40.739 --> 00:44:43.260
If we're not hearing the way we need to hear,

00:44:43.460 --> 00:44:46.280
then we need to just spend more time at the Lord's

00:44:46.280 --> 00:44:50.889
feet. Yes. Don't you say that's true? Yes. Back

00:44:50.889 --> 00:44:53.710
to your first love. Back to your first love.

00:44:53.789 --> 00:44:56.949
Seeking with all your heart. And I know with

00:44:56.949 --> 00:45:01.010
Gordana, I mean, she can speak to this, but she

00:45:01.010 --> 00:45:03.969
has a lot of open manifestations with angels.

00:45:04.010 --> 00:45:06.989
And I think, in my opinion, it's because she

00:45:06.989 --> 00:45:09.710
yields to the Holy Spirit every night. So he

00:45:09.710 --> 00:45:12.289
comes upon her. She begins to intercede. She

00:45:12.289 --> 00:45:16.880
begins to shake violently sometimes. And it's

00:45:16.880 --> 00:45:21.099
overwhelming to watch. And at first it was difficult

00:45:21.099 --> 00:45:23.880
because I didn't understand it. But I realized

00:45:23.880 --> 00:45:28.980
that yielding to the Spirit, really opening the

00:45:28.980 --> 00:45:32.760
things of the Spirit up to her. So much so, one

00:45:32.760 --> 00:45:36.320
of my favorite stories was when the angels appeared

00:45:36.320 --> 00:45:42.179
to her saying, get ready for Ezekiel 38. Oh,

00:45:42.300 --> 00:45:45.500
tell us more about that. Want to tell that? Yeah.

00:45:45.949 --> 00:45:51.170
Tell it truthfully. I kept asking the Lord to

00:45:51.170 --> 00:45:53.789
tell me what's coming and what was going on.

00:45:53.869 --> 00:45:55.389
He said, I just want to know. And I was like,

00:45:55.489 --> 00:45:58.190
you tell secrets, and I'm your friend, because

00:45:58.190 --> 00:46:04.489
he shares his heart with us. And so as I'm laying

00:46:04.489 --> 00:46:09.269
in bed and praying, and all of a sudden my eyes

00:46:09.269 --> 00:46:15.230
are open and an angel came. Some toppings I'm

00:46:15.230 --> 00:46:19.269
laying, and beautiful blonde hair, kind of like

00:46:19.269 --> 00:46:22.230
shoulder length, and I mean an angel, angel.

00:46:22.849 --> 00:46:26.730
And he's holding a scroll. He said, he unrolls

00:46:26.730 --> 00:46:29.610
the scroll. He said, get ready for Ezekiel 38.

00:46:30.329 --> 00:46:35.170
And I said, no, you mean Ezekiel 37. I thought

00:46:35.170 --> 00:46:39.050
Ezekiel 37 has to come in the bones and the dry

00:46:39.050 --> 00:46:41.349
bones and come in alive all that before, you

00:46:41.349 --> 00:46:43.170
know, the war and everything else that it's going

00:46:43.170 --> 00:46:45.929
to happen, which we're pretty close to that right

00:46:45.929 --> 00:46:50.349
now, right? So he leaves and another angel comes

00:46:50.349 --> 00:46:55.309
and he has a scroll tool and he opens it up and

00:46:55.309 --> 00:46:58.969
he said, get ready for Ezekiel 38. And I said,

00:46:59.010 --> 00:47:03.780
no, you mean Ezekiel 37. And then I was telling

00:47:03.780 --> 00:47:06.119
Mikey, you were arguing with the angels. I said,

00:47:06.199 --> 00:47:09.519
I just was saying what I thought because I thought

00:47:09.519 --> 00:47:14.719
Ezekiel 37 has to happen. And when they told

00:47:14.719 --> 00:47:17.679
me that at that time, I thought when you hear

00:47:17.679 --> 00:47:20.539
some stuff, prophecy doesn't happen right away

00:47:20.539 --> 00:47:23.280
because it'll happen according to the word of

00:47:23.280 --> 00:47:26.059
God, what the Lord says. Yeah. So I was a little

00:47:26.059 --> 00:47:27.940
discouraged because it didn't happen like in

00:47:27.940 --> 00:47:30.539
a day or a week or whatever. Then Bruce said,

00:47:30.579 --> 00:47:32.519
why don't you ask the Lord what that, you know.

00:47:32.909 --> 00:47:35.230
What was the whole purpose of him telling you

00:47:35.230 --> 00:47:38.269
that? Well, we know all the nations and everybody

00:47:38.269 --> 00:47:40.289
coming around Israel right now. And I said, well,

00:47:40.289 --> 00:47:43.530
what did you mean by Ezekiel 38? He said, same

00:47:43.530 --> 00:47:47.409
like in Daniel about, you know, all the laws,

00:47:47.550 --> 00:47:50.829
everything changing. We see that right now. So,

00:47:50.829 --> 00:47:54.590
yeah. I just, I love that story because who in

00:47:54.590 --> 00:47:57.210
the world is going to argue with God's angels?

00:47:57.309 --> 00:48:02.480
No, no, you got it wrong, you know. Where Donna

00:48:02.480 --> 00:48:04.840
didn't have any problem. I thought it was funny.

00:48:05.260 --> 00:48:08.360
You know, you have a relationship. You're right.

00:48:08.380 --> 00:48:11.780
And, you know, sometimes the Lord is trying to

00:48:11.780 --> 00:48:15.500
help us correct our thinking, and he doesn't

00:48:15.500 --> 00:48:18.920
mind us discussing these things with him. Yeah,

00:48:18.920 --> 00:48:21.019
where his children were still growing, right?

00:48:21.219 --> 00:48:23.760
Right. They were growing every day. You're right,

00:48:23.800 --> 00:48:27.139
Sean. But what I've observed and what I've heard

00:48:27.139 --> 00:48:31.650
lots of people... in their discussions with the

00:48:31.650 --> 00:48:34.610
angels or with the Lord or whatever, he'll say

00:48:34.610 --> 00:48:39.389
to do something or he'll give a word and the

00:48:39.389 --> 00:48:43.130
response is no or something contrary to what

00:48:43.130 --> 00:48:46.530
was said. But by the third time, it's like, okay.

00:48:47.769 --> 00:48:51.469
Usually the third time seals it. I've been there.

00:48:52.809 --> 00:48:55.849
I've been there too. You want to tell us when?

00:48:56.909 --> 00:49:03.199
Yeah. This was, the Lord was trying to prompt

00:49:03.199 --> 00:49:08.619
me to do something. And I was in my work environment,

00:49:08.699 --> 00:49:13.179
and I saw this man walk through my work area.

00:49:13.199 --> 00:49:15.239
I'd never seen him before, but he looked really

00:49:15.239 --> 00:49:19.800
mean, angry. And I'm thinking to myself, wow,

00:49:19.860 --> 00:49:22.739
I would hate to meet him in a dark alley. And

00:49:22.739 --> 00:49:25.139
the Lord spoke to me and said, go tell him I

00:49:25.139 --> 00:49:27.340
love him and I have a great plan for his life.

00:49:27.440 --> 00:49:32.000
I thought, what in the world? It can't be God's

00:49:32.000 --> 00:49:35.219
voice, you know. The enemy's trying to get me

00:49:35.219 --> 00:49:38.699
beat up or something, you know. Except I knew

00:49:38.699 --> 00:49:42.139
it was God's voice, but I didn't move. And so

00:49:42.139 --> 00:49:44.619
God told me again, go tell him I love him and

00:49:44.619 --> 00:49:47.139
I have a great plan for his life. And I didn't

00:49:47.139 --> 00:49:49.260
move. I still didn't move. And the guy, he's

00:49:49.260 --> 00:49:52.519
walked, now he's out of my area. And he's went

00:49:52.519 --> 00:49:54.199
around the corner. I don't know where he went.

00:49:54.460 --> 00:49:57.579
The Lord speaks it again. The third time he told

00:49:57.579 --> 00:50:00.940
me, I just started walking because I knew if

00:50:00.940 --> 00:50:03.780
I didn't start walking, I would disobey him again.

00:50:03.820 --> 00:50:06.639
And I thought, I don't want that, you know, on

00:50:06.639 --> 00:50:10.039
my hands. So I just started walking. I walked

00:50:10.039 --> 00:50:12.159
around for a while. I finally found the guy.

00:50:12.239 --> 00:50:15.420
He's sitting at a desk and he looked up at me,

00:50:15.480 --> 00:50:20.079
still got this mean look on his face. And I said,

00:50:20.099 --> 00:50:21.920
I need to tell you something. He said, what?

00:50:22.659 --> 00:50:25.800
I said, Jesus loves you and has a great plan

00:50:25.800 --> 00:50:29.980
for your life. And he starts to cry. And what

00:50:29.980 --> 00:50:34.500
I thought was meanness was pain on this guy's

00:50:34.500 --> 00:50:36.980
face. And he said, I've been sitting here all

00:50:36.980 --> 00:50:38.920
morning. I've been all morning thinking about

00:50:38.920 --> 00:50:41.599
how my life has no purpose and I should just

00:50:41.599 --> 00:50:50.900
end it. Yeah. And the Lord. And his mercy told

00:50:50.900 --> 00:50:54.860
me even a third time, go tell him, go tell him,

00:50:54.900 --> 00:50:59.400
because he wanted to minister to this man. And

00:50:59.400 --> 00:51:02.400
I thought, it's important, you know. I missed

00:51:02.400 --> 00:51:06.360
it twice, you know, and that was wrong. We need

00:51:06.360 --> 00:51:09.780
to be obedient immediately to his voice in the

00:51:09.780 --> 00:51:14.300
coming days. We may not have the chance. We may

00:51:14.300 --> 00:51:16.519
not have the chance to get told, you know, three

00:51:16.519 --> 00:51:20.320
or four times. Right. We just need to be obedient

00:51:20.320 --> 00:51:24.099
to his voice and let the chips fall where they

00:51:24.099 --> 00:51:27.219
may, because as long as we're obeying him, we

00:51:27.219 --> 00:51:30.380
don't have to worry about what else comes. That's

00:51:30.380 --> 00:51:35.820
on the Lord. It's true. It's true. Even if we

00:51:35.820 --> 00:51:39.840
do miss it occasionally, he knows how to turn

00:51:39.840 --> 00:51:42.900
those things for good. I'm not talking about

00:51:42.900 --> 00:51:46.820
disobedience. I'm talking about more being misled

00:51:46.820 --> 00:51:51.019
by something else. That if we bumble on something,

00:51:51.219 --> 00:51:55.760
God still has a way of using that. And, you know,

00:51:55.780 --> 00:51:58.559
I remember one time feeling compelled to speak

00:51:58.559 --> 00:52:01.760
to someone who had some kind of, I don't remember

00:52:01.760 --> 00:52:03.539
just what it was, but there was some kind of

00:52:03.539 --> 00:52:09.409
obvious. need for healing. You could tell that

00:52:09.409 --> 00:52:11.630
there was something wrong, something wrong physically.

00:52:12.369 --> 00:52:16.210
And so I asked him, would you like me to pray

00:52:16.210 --> 00:52:21.809
for you? And he told me no. And so I did what

00:52:21.809 --> 00:52:25.510
I felt I was supposed to do just to approach

00:52:25.510 --> 00:52:28.389
him. And if he didn't want prayer, then I'm not

00:52:28.389 --> 00:52:30.150
going to. I mean, I'm going to pray for him when

00:52:30.150 --> 00:52:33.269
I walk away, but I'm not going to lay hands on

00:52:33.269 --> 00:52:35.840
him. And so I don't know what the outcome of

00:52:35.840 --> 00:52:39.219
that was, but I know that God can use it in any

00:52:39.219 --> 00:52:43.559
case. Yeah, absolutely. And probably I'm certain

00:52:43.559 --> 00:52:46.719
that he did use it just to prompt the man in

00:52:46.719 --> 00:52:49.099
the direction that, you know, think about God

00:52:49.099 --> 00:52:53.159
being able to heal him. Yeah. Yeah, so you're

00:52:53.159 --> 00:52:56.679
right. It's not like, you know, we're being disobedient

00:52:56.679 --> 00:52:58.619
on purpose, like, I'm not going to do what God

00:52:58.619 --> 00:53:01.840
tells me. It's like you're wrestling with stuff.

00:53:01.920 --> 00:53:03.940
Am I hearing God's voice? Is that really what

00:53:03.940 --> 00:53:08.519
he wants me to do? It's just all of these things

00:53:08.519 --> 00:53:10.820
that we consider when we're trying to follow

00:53:10.820 --> 00:53:13.840
God's voice. Almost like angels told you, you

00:53:13.840 --> 00:53:16.940
need to hear better because the Lord always speaks.

00:53:17.280 --> 00:53:20.639
Right. You need to hear better. And that's built

00:53:20.639 --> 00:53:22.940
on the relationship that you're building. Are

00:53:22.940 --> 00:53:25.480
you spending more time with the Lord or more

00:53:25.480 --> 00:53:28.059
time with the world, the things of the world?

00:53:28.219 --> 00:53:31.530
Right. Absolutely. And I've seen that even when

00:53:31.530 --> 00:53:34.510
we go to schools and stuff and we're trying to

00:53:34.510 --> 00:53:37.909
teach people about having that walk with the

00:53:37.909 --> 00:53:40.250
Lord that opens the things of the Spirit up to

00:53:40.250 --> 00:53:44.849
them. That's my take on it, is that if you have

00:53:44.849 --> 00:53:47.510
a close walk with God, the things of the Spirit

00:53:47.510 --> 00:53:51.170
will open to you. If you are seeking... The things

00:53:51.170 --> 00:53:53.570
of heaven instead of the things of this world,

00:53:53.650 --> 00:53:55.650
if that's the thing that matters to you, then

00:53:55.650 --> 00:53:59.309
if you focus on the spiritual things, the spiritual

00:53:59.309 --> 00:54:02.070
things manifest. If you focus on natural things,

00:54:02.269 --> 00:54:04.409
then you're going to know all about the natural

00:54:04.409 --> 00:54:08.190
things. So I think God gives us that opportunity

00:54:08.190 --> 00:54:12.449
to seek Him and to see the manifestation of His

00:54:12.449 --> 00:54:15.789
kingdom for His glory for the day that we're

00:54:15.789 --> 00:54:20.179
in. Amen. But we need to have that immediate

00:54:20.179 --> 00:54:23.260
obedience, you know. And I wish I could say I'm

00:54:23.260 --> 00:54:26.179
there, but, you know, sometimes, you know, it's

00:54:26.179 --> 00:54:28.800
just like you realize, okay, I should have obeyed.

00:54:28.800 --> 00:54:31.780
Why didn't I obey? Yes. Do you have any other

00:54:31.780 --> 00:54:34.159
thoughts, anything on your heart that you want

00:54:34.159 --> 00:54:39.920
to share? I do. This is like going back to prayer

00:54:39.920 --> 00:54:44.340
and breakthrough that I think a lot of times,

00:54:44.539 --> 00:54:48.159
so the Lord showed me this. A long time ago in

00:54:48.159 --> 00:54:51.179
a vision, I was rebuking an evil spirit and the

00:54:51.179 --> 00:54:54.639
evil spirit would not go away. And the evil spirit

00:54:54.639 --> 00:54:58.480
didn't even look perturbed or worried. He just

00:54:58.480 --> 00:55:01.380
very confident and wickedly was looking at me.

00:55:02.039 --> 00:55:06.800
And so I just kept rebuking and rebuking him.

00:55:06.840 --> 00:55:09.400
Finally, after about 20 minutes, he flew away.

00:55:10.090 --> 00:55:12.750
But I asked the Lord, I said, Lord, what is going

00:55:12.750 --> 00:55:16.150
on? I know I'm seated in authority in you. I

00:55:16.150 --> 00:55:19.309
know that I'm seated far above principalities

00:55:19.309 --> 00:55:22.489
and powers, that nothing shall by any means harm

00:55:22.489 --> 00:55:24.789
me. But this thing didn't even look worried.

00:55:25.510 --> 00:55:29.630
And the Lord told me, Michael, the enemy is a

00:55:29.630 --> 00:55:35.960
deceiver. They appear. They put forth an appearance

00:55:35.960 --> 00:55:38.500
as if your words have no power against them,

00:55:38.539 --> 00:55:41.719
but actually the opposite is true. But the enemy

00:55:41.719 --> 00:55:46.679
has known that if they can just hold out for

00:55:46.679 --> 00:55:50.059
a few minutes, if they can hold on for just a

00:55:50.059 --> 00:55:53.559
few minutes, many times believers will give up.

00:55:54.440 --> 00:55:57.860
And like if you're praying, you're a church praying

00:55:57.860 --> 00:56:01.880
for someone's healing or they've got an issue

00:56:01.880 --> 00:56:05.199
and there doesn't appear to be an instant manifestation

00:56:05.199 --> 00:56:09.119
or even one that seems to be not instant, but

00:56:09.119 --> 00:56:13.440
in the process of happening, many times people

00:56:13.440 --> 00:56:18.079
will say, oh, let's just stop for now. Next month,

00:56:18.079 --> 00:56:20.300
the healing evangelist is coming through. We'll

00:56:20.300 --> 00:56:23.989
try again that. And the Lord was telling me that's

00:56:23.989 --> 00:56:27.989
the way a lot of the church thinks, that we're

00:56:27.989 --> 00:56:31.550
not seeing the enemy move off of the situation.

00:56:31.550 --> 00:56:34.329
So let's just wait until someone else comes along.

00:56:34.530 --> 00:56:37.969
And the Lord said, no, every time you speak,

00:56:38.110 --> 00:56:42.150
something shifts in the spirit realm. Every time

00:56:42.150 --> 00:56:46.130
you speak, whether good or bad. And so the Lord

00:56:46.130 --> 00:56:48.880
was telling me. Do you want to see those kind

00:56:48.880 --> 00:56:51.440
of miracles in your life? This was something

00:56:51.440 --> 00:56:54.559
the Lord had reiterated to me during my sabbatical.

00:56:55.219 --> 00:56:58.280
Do you want to see those miracles? Then you don't

00:56:58.280 --> 00:57:02.579
give up ever. There is no doubt in the enemy's

00:57:02.579 --> 00:57:06.019
mind what you're going to do because you're going

00:57:06.019 --> 00:57:09.059
to do what I told you to do, that when you speak,

00:57:09.199 --> 00:57:13.300
the manifestation of my power will come and the

00:57:13.300 --> 00:57:16.110
Holy Spirit will move. And all these things,

00:57:16.210 --> 00:57:20.210
and this is for everybody seeking miracles. Do

00:57:20.210 --> 00:57:23.630
not give up. Do not allow the enemy to trick

00:57:23.630 --> 00:57:26.210
you, thinking that, oh, well, you know, he's

00:57:26.210 --> 00:57:29.090
more powerful. No, he's not more powerful. And

00:57:29.090 --> 00:57:32.510
we just need to be aggressive and move the enemy

00:57:32.510 --> 00:57:35.750
out of our lives. And it's not always easy. It's

00:57:35.750 --> 00:57:40.429
not always convenient. But we're empowered by

00:57:40.429 --> 00:57:42.929
the Holy Spirit to see these things come to pass.

00:57:43.920 --> 00:57:46.119
If I had to say anything to anybody that's seeking

00:57:46.119 --> 00:57:51.159
something from God, do not stop. That's my counsel

00:57:51.159 --> 00:57:54.199
for those things. And guard the words that come

00:57:54.199 --> 00:57:56.619
out of our mouth, the power for life or death.

00:57:56.820 --> 00:58:00.440
Yes, that too. Amen. You know, that's one of

00:58:00.440 --> 00:58:03.400
my favorite stories that you tell, and I quote

00:58:03.400 --> 00:58:08.769
it. frequently. That really made an impact on

00:58:08.769 --> 00:58:12.429
me that you don't give up because the thing that

00:58:12.429 --> 00:58:14.190
you were praying about before that thing showed

00:58:14.190 --> 00:58:17.650
up, when it moved, there was an answer to your

00:58:17.650 --> 00:58:19.730
prayer right there that he was trying to cover

00:58:19.730 --> 00:58:25.070
up. So I just think it's so essential that, like

00:58:25.070 --> 00:58:28.510
you said, that we not give up. We keep pressing

00:58:28.510 --> 00:58:32.940
in, keep pursuing, keep contending. Yeah, and

00:58:32.940 --> 00:58:36.579
know that regardless of how people feel about

00:58:36.579 --> 00:58:39.719
themselves, it's like, oh, I'm having a bad day.

00:58:40.199 --> 00:58:43.920
I equate this to if you were having a bad day

00:58:43.920 --> 00:58:46.159
as a believer and you think, well, I can't really

00:58:46.159 --> 00:58:49.719
pray for anybody today. I said something I shouldn't

00:58:49.719 --> 00:58:52.019
have said. I was mean to somebody or whatever

00:58:52.019 --> 00:58:56.079
the situation. You still. are a child of the

00:58:56.079 --> 00:58:59.079
Most High, seated in heavenly places, even on

00:58:59.079 --> 00:59:02.380
your worst day. Yes. And I kind of equate that

00:59:02.380 --> 00:59:07.119
to if you're driving past someone, maybe a young

00:59:07.119 --> 00:59:10.179
woman holding a baby, and she doesn't know how

00:59:10.179 --> 00:59:13.139
to change a tire, and she's standing alongside

00:59:13.139 --> 00:59:16.380
the road, would you say, I can't help her because

00:59:16.380 --> 00:59:20.039
I'm not a good enough Christian today? No, don't

00:59:20.039 --> 00:59:23.539
do that. Right? You would stop and help because

00:59:23.539 --> 00:59:26.969
you can. And that's the way I look at it with

00:59:26.969 --> 00:59:30.409
believers. We might not be perfect. We might

00:59:30.409 --> 00:59:33.550
be a work in progress, but we are who we are.

00:59:33.869 --> 00:59:36.329
And if you have the opportunity to help somebody

00:59:36.329 --> 00:59:40.210
do it and just step out in faith because he gets

00:59:40.210 --> 00:59:42.710
the glory, not us. It's not like we point to

00:59:42.710 --> 00:59:45.530
ourselves and say how great we are, but Jesus

00:59:45.530 --> 00:59:48.650
gets the glory so we can speak in his name and

00:59:48.650 --> 00:59:54.010
see things happen. Amen. Amen. Amen. That's beautiful.

00:59:54.670 --> 00:59:57.110
Praise the Lord. Well, would you pray for our

00:59:57.110 --> 01:00:00.110
listeners and our viewers? I would. Gordana,

01:00:00.110 --> 01:00:01.969
you want to? I'll agree with you. Okay, you're

01:00:01.969 --> 01:00:05.590
good. All right. Father, in Jesus' name, we just

01:00:05.590 --> 01:00:08.010
lift everyone up. It's watching this broadcast

01:00:08.010 --> 01:00:11.809
and those that hear it. In Jesus' name, Father,

01:00:11.889 --> 01:00:14.590
we lift them before your throne. We know that

01:00:14.590 --> 01:00:17.869
you are using them for your glory. We ask you,

01:00:17.929 --> 01:00:20.730
Father, to let everything that's been from you

01:00:20.730 --> 01:00:24.400
just to hit. hit the right place in their heart,

01:00:24.500 --> 01:00:28.059
Father. Just empower them, embolden them, give

01:00:28.059 --> 01:00:30.920
them the boldness of the Lion of the tribe of

01:00:30.920 --> 01:00:33.159
Judah going forth in their life. Father, just

01:00:33.159 --> 01:00:37.699
let the things of heaven be first place in their

01:00:37.699 --> 01:00:41.099
life. Let the Lord and His kingdom be first place

01:00:41.099 --> 01:00:43.780
so that the things of the Spirit are manifest

01:00:43.780 --> 01:00:46.420
in their life for Your glory so that we can walk

01:00:46.420 --> 01:00:48.900
in what You've created us to walk in. Father,

01:00:48.960 --> 01:00:51.659
and now I just... I just, by faith, lay hands

01:00:51.659 --> 01:00:55.480
on every person watching and listening. I just

01:00:55.480 --> 01:00:58.460
release those things that you've given us, Father.

01:00:58.500 --> 01:01:01.380
We release those things you've given us to walk

01:01:01.380 --> 01:01:06.320
in the Spirit, to see and to hear and to fulfill

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our mandate before you, what you prepared for

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us to do. We just receive that, Father, and the

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equipping and the lessons and the encounters,

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Father. We ask you release it all on your people

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for your glory in this time, for such a time

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as this. And we thank you for Sharon and Phil.

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We ask you to bless not only their ministry,

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but the podcasts and the broadcast. Father, just

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bless it. Let it reach all the right people,

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all the people, Father. And we just ask you,

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let your kingdom come. Let your will be done.

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In Jesus' mighty name, amen. Amen. Thank you

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so much. This has been just delightful. And again,

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we're looking forward to having you with us at

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the School of the Supernatural Translation by

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Faith. It starts September 7th. It goes through

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the 12th, I believe. And there's information

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about it on our website, globaloutpouring .net,

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globaloutpouring .org. Either one of them will

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get you there. And look at the event page and

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you'll find all the details about it and how

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to register. And we hope that you... will join

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us. It will be an amazing, life -changing time.

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time, this is Sharon Buss. And I'm Philip Buss.

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God bless you with His overwhelming, loving presence.